This book changes my life. The metaphysics of quality is a key to problem solving and I use it on a daily basis. Dynamic and static value open the door to that other map for navigating every day challenges and seeing reality in its most basic form.
I love Zen and the Art. I´m still processing it since 1 year ago, when I finished reading it. Maybe I´m ready for Lila. Robert Pirsig is a true philosopher of this times, as great as those great greek ones.
How lucky I was to get in touch with this genius! And how brave of me to persevere in reading its two books UNTIL I understood its MOQ fully. Thabks soo much, dr Pirsig!
For such a heavy topic, metaphysics, epistemology, Kantian philosophy, I thought Pirsig did a Herculean job making it clear and comprehensible. Pirsig complained way back around 1970 about society being, "an endless parade of trivia and fashion." Boy, could we use Pirsig now to attempt to dismantle social media. A professor in England who worked with Pirsig told me that he had a high regard for Joseph Campbell
Pirsig mentions ''Masks of God'' in Lila, which is the title of a series of books written by Joseph Campbell. In Lila there is also a passage on the meaning and 'truth' about dreams, which implicitly suggests Pirsig might have been a fan of Carl Jung as well. If anything, both Jungian psychology and the work of Joseph Campbell go very well with Pirsig's own thought. :)
We need this exploration and psychic integration with this thing that Prisig calls 'Quality' more than ever. It is essential for us to go forward as a species.
This interview answered one question and raised another. For years, I wondered why Pirsig didn't produce any more work. Now I wonder why more writers don't stop when they have said all they need (or want) to say.
I read both books at least ten times each. It wasn't that he wasn't clear about the expression of his ideas on the MOQ that has more to do with my lack of intelligence.
“Lila is a Sanskrit noun meaning ”sport” or “play” that has been the central term in the Hindu elaboration of the idea that God in his creating and governing of the world is moved not by need or necessity but by a free and joyous creativity that is integral to his own nature”...
@@ranga386fe I was going to add that of course in ascribing these attributes to God we are in fact merely projecting our own nature and inclinations onto Him. For isn’t it true that of all of God’s creatures we are the Supreme Beings of Sport and Play. We invent so many things to amuse ourselves with and remould Nature in so many different ways that other animals which share this speck of dust called Earth with us simply cannot.
Why people would never understand it all the way, he spends 15 years writing it, and the average person maybe took 1 week to read it there is asymmetrical in it. You have to read every passage and think hard about it and not move on until you understand it, it may take 15 years but that's fine
Thank you Robert. Wow. Just as I read Lila you spoke just now: spooky! Happy Halloween day buddy love you buddy thank you buddy for your kindness and grace and divinity
Ha die Tjeerd, Geweldig dat ik -naar ik aanneem- een andere Nederlander tref die dit boek hoog heeft zitten. Denk dat mijn teller inmiddels ook de 10 aantikt… en ook voor mij geldt dat het niet de laatste keer is dat ik m lees. (Zit halverwege).
I was always fascinated with his meeting with Robert Redford who was interested in making a movie of ZAAMM. I was always taken by the fact that Redford became skeptical towards him because he was too willing to allow Redford to do what he wanted to do in terms of the treatment of the book. Did i misinterpret this? Like ZAAMM, Lila is a book worth reading more than once!
To some people writers block is an essential part of the creative process. To me it's a symptom of inadequacy, or a fear of being exposed and not being able to meet my own expectations.
Probably irrelevant, but I have been creating Zen and the Art of …….. ideas. Chess. Zen and the Art of Chess. As a youth, my brother would beat me in chess. It bothered me. As an adult, I play chess with my son. Only sporadically because we are over 2,000 miles apart. My son is very bright and he beats me. I want to focus on our time together. I attempt to be very Zen. I have purchased a number of books on chess. Jeremy Silman. Jeremy associates chess and Zen. Chess engines offer game analysis. Chess notation allows one to document their game. Analyzing a game and noticing emotions helps me with chess and Zen. A friend mentioned The Way of the Peaceful Warrior. Pirsig has Phadra. Millman has Socrates. Socrates is a sort of Zen master with a sense of humor. Pirsig does not seem to have a sense of humor. Electroconvulsive Therapy seems very dark in Pirsig’s book. As in movies. My father had Electroconvulsive Therapy. I was very young. My mother didn’t know how to talk about it to me. So I had a very scary view of it. I am reading a book by Guy Winch. He says that contrary to the public perception of Electroconvulsive Therapy, it is benign and helpful.
Love his books, and find it highly underated. One questions to any person who know the book '"Lila" on page 231: It's the secret smile of a judge who has been overthrown and surpressed for the good of social progress. I know women who dont like it because of this, could perhaps anybody give me an explanation? (of the good of social progress) thx
LOOK AT THE KATRAS - DIGESTION SEX AND SELF ARE THE FIRST THREE, THE 4TH IS THAT OF THE HEART AND SOCIALCONNECTION. SO, THERE IS ACTION THAT IS BUDDHA QUALITY AND ACTION THAT IS ANIMAL QUALITY.
No. Disagree. Lila was great for me to read. I was ready to read it when it came out. I had no idea it even existed when I found it. No worries. You might like it one day.
What piercing doesn't understand is that people's primary motivation is avoidance of shame. Even the most intelligent people are not going to admit pure truth. Even the ones that want to. This is why you don't get the proper response to your book. This is what makes you one of the most naive people while still being so intelligent and so accurate about reality. I feel your sadness that nobody responds correctly to it.
This is very interesting. He's a very intelligent person who doesn't seem to realize that most people aren't. Even most smart people aren't that intelligent. It doesn't surprise me at all that so many people like it but can't understand it
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This book changes my life. The metaphysics of quality is a key to problem solving and I use it on a daily basis. Dynamic and static value open the door to that other map for navigating every day challenges and seeing reality in its most basic form.
Lila was like the completion of Pirsig's thoughts on a very deep subject.
Much more joyful and funny than i thought he would be.
LILA is my personal bible
Brilliant man
I love Zen and the Art. I´m still processing it since 1 year ago, when I finished reading it. Maybe I´m ready for Lila. Robert Pirsig is a true philosopher of this times, as great as those great greek ones.
I just finished Zen and AOMM and am so excited to continue on with Lila!
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And…. Did it blow you away? Love to know what your thoughts are?
@@UnderBridge. And…. Did you start, maybe even finish it ?
Like to know what your thoughts are ?
How lucky I was to get in touch with this genius! And how brave of me to persevere in reading its two books UNTIL I understood its MOQ fully.
Thabks soo much, dr Pirsig!
The interviewer did a fantastic job.
I agree., and I really like Pirsig's freedom and uninhibition. Not surprised, based on the joy I experienced reading both of his books.
Nobody is able to connect interlectuel Philosofie to eastern silence as this Humble man. Love it!
For such a heavy topic, metaphysics, epistemology, Kantian philosophy, I thought Pirsig did a Herculean job making it clear and comprehensible. Pirsig complained way back around 1970 about society being, "an endless parade of trivia and fashion." Boy, could we use Pirsig now to attempt to dismantle social media. A professor in England who worked with Pirsig told me that he had a high regard for Joseph Campbell
Pirsig mentions ''Masks of God'' in Lila, which is the title of a series of books written by Joseph Campbell. In Lila there is also a passage on the meaning and 'truth' about dreams, which implicitly suggests Pirsig might have been a fan of Carl Jung as well. If anything, both Jungian psychology and the work of Joseph Campbell go very well with Pirsig's own thought. :)
Good interview - I love Pirsig and this interviewer’s voice is very good
This is a great interview, thanks for sharing. I'd like to state i do believe in your quality of metaphysics
Lila could not be underrated!
Thanks for posting! Lila was more important to me.
I agree. As brilliant as ZMM is (I've read it a dozen times), I think it pales in comparison to Lila.
Named my daughter Lila
Mark Ahrens agree.. LILA is like a heavenly candystore in philosophy to me... all time favorite
I've called it Zen times ten.
We need this exploration and psychic integration with this thing that Prisig calls 'Quality' more than ever. It is essential for us to go forward as a species.
I agree, it could turn out to be a manual for life…
This interview answered one question and raised another. For years, I wondered why Pirsig didn't produce any more work. Now I wonder why more writers don't stop when they have said all they need (or want) to say.
I read both books at least ten times each. It wasn't that he wasn't clear about the expression of his ideas on the MOQ that has more to do with my lack of intelligence.
Moq? Meaning of quality?
I am with you on that....
His lesson about the pernicious v a l u e r i g i d i t y alone is a BIG gem !!!
I only read it once and loved it, then never again. I am planning to read it again just because I love it. That's it.
You should! There’s so much to explore.
“Lila is a Sanskrit noun meaning ”sport” or “play” that has been the central term in the Hindu elaboration of the idea that God in his creating and governing of the world is moved not by need or necessity but by a free and joyous creativity that is integral to his own nature”...
and I (as an Indian) agree - Lila/Leela is indeed a play - if the author did get indeed inspired by its Sanskrit's root - but is pronounced "Leela"
Where is it written?
@@ranga386fe I was going to add that of course in ascribing these attributes to God we are in fact merely projecting our own nature and inclinations onto Him. For isn’t it true that of all of God’s creatures we are the Supreme Beings of Sport and Play. We invent so many things to amuse ourselves with and remould Nature in so many different ways that other animals which share this speck of dust called Earth with us simply cannot.
What a genuinely relevant philosophical books ..... they both are immensely important
Why people would never understand it all the way, he spends 15 years writing it, and the average person maybe took 1 week to read it there is asymmetrical in it. You have to read every passage and think hard about it and not move on until you understand it, it may take 15 years but that's fine
“He revels in Writer’s Block.” 😀
Thank you Robert. Wow. Just as I read Lila you spoke just now: spooky! Happy Halloween day buddy love you buddy thank you buddy for your kindness and grace and divinity
Reading it more than once was needed for me... The counter is at ten (or so) and the latest time wasn't the last one!
Ha die Tjeerd,
Geweldig dat ik -naar ik aanneem- een andere Nederlander tref die dit boek hoog heeft zitten.
Denk dat mijn teller inmiddels ook de 10 aantikt… en ook voor mij geldt dat het niet de laatste keer is dat ik m lees. (Zit halverwege).
It turns out I have the same birthday as Mr Pircig I'm hoping that translates into some sort of mystical quality lol
I understood Lila well, the trouble I have been having is comprehending what is meant by “good is a noun, not an adjective”
Maybe meaning good is a place, a thing. Not a descriptive word, it’s a destination, an entity in and of itself.
@@craigjohnson5396 thanks that helps alot
He's a STRANGE BEARDED FIGURE, indeed.
George Martin need to hear this interview
I was always fascinated with his meeting with Robert Redford who was interested in making a movie of ZAAMM. I was always taken by the fact that Redford became skeptical towards him because he was too willing to allow Redford to do what he wanted to do in terms of the treatment of the book. Did i misinterpret this? Like ZAAMM, Lila is a book worth reading more than once!
i did not understand the concept of it may be i was not ready when i bought in 1972 so i still his book and i going to read it.
To some people writers block is an essential part of the creative process. To me it's a symptom of inadequacy, or a fear of being exposed and not being able to meet my own expectations.
Probably irrelevant, but I have been creating Zen and the Art of …….. ideas. Chess. Zen and the Art of Chess. As a youth, my brother would beat me in chess. It bothered me. As an adult, I play chess with my son. Only sporadically because we are over 2,000 miles apart. My son is very bright and he beats me. I want to focus on our time together. I attempt to be very Zen. I have purchased a number of books on chess. Jeremy Silman. Jeremy associates chess and Zen. Chess engines offer game analysis. Chess notation allows one to document their game. Analyzing a game and noticing emotions helps me with chess and Zen.
A friend mentioned The Way of the Peaceful Warrior. Pirsig has Phadra. Millman has Socrates. Socrates is a sort of Zen master with a sense of humor.
Pirsig does not seem to have a sense of humor.
Electroconvulsive Therapy seems very dark in Pirsig’s book. As in movies. My father had Electroconvulsive Therapy. I was very young. My mother didn’t know how to talk about it to me. So I had a very scary view of it. I am reading a book by Guy Winch. He says that contrary to the public perception of Electroconvulsive Therapy, it is benign and helpful.
Amazing, you managed to misspell Pirsig's name in two different ways. Impressively lazy.
Robert, it is your burden to prove that you are right.
What is the sweating Professor trying to say?
On page 220
And I don’t like Robert lol
Misspelled his name
Back when npr used to have good interviews about interesting topics Without propaganda
Love his books, and find it highly underated.
One questions to any person who know the book '"Lila"
on page 231:
It's the secret smile of a judge who has been overthrown and surpressed for the good of social progress.
I know women who dont like it because of this, could perhaps anybody give me an explanation?
(of the good of social progress)
thx
@@user-cm3jn3of6d It should not be so hard to find (2 last pages of Part 1)
THE NEXT BOOK SHOULD GO DOWN THE MISSISSIPPI AND REFLECT THE SIDARTHA/ MARK TWAIN DICODOMES AS THEMES.
Pirsig passed six years ago, so you will have to write that one.
Quite interesting.
name is pirsig
how are you?
LOOK AT THE KATRAS - DIGESTION SEX AND SELF ARE THE FIRST THREE, THE 4TH IS THAT OF THE HEART AND SOCIALCONNECTION. SO, THERE IS ACTION THAT IS BUDDHA QUALITY AND ACTION THAT IS ANIMAL QUALITY.
Zen was great. Lila sucked.
No. Disagree. Lila was great for me to read. I was ready to read it when it came out. I had no idea it even existed when I found it. No worries. You might like it one day.
Lila has quality
What piercing doesn't understand is that people's primary motivation is avoidance of shame. Even the most intelligent people are not going to admit pure truth. Even the ones that want to. This is why you don't get the proper response to your book. This is what makes you one of the most naive people while still being so intelligent and so accurate about reality. I feel your sadness that nobody responds correctly to it.
This is very interesting. He's a very intelligent person who doesn't seem to realize that most people aren't. Even most smart people aren't that intelligent. It doesn't surprise me at all that so many people like it but can't understand it