Why Did Samurai Keep Changing and Reusing Names?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- All about the politics of samurai names. Why did they change their names so much? Why did they keep reusing certain characters?
Why are samurai names so long: • Why Are Samurai Names ...
0:00 First Name Patterns
2:24 Importance of First Names
4:10 Family Names
7:05 Tokugawa Ieyasu’s Names, man couldn’t make up his mind
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Do some vietmanese history from here and there.
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Please make why Vietnamese people usually have the same name.
Not gonna lie, I tend to gravitate to Vietnamese people so this makes sense. Rock on.
Even funnier, Hōjō Ujitsuna renamed his father Hōjō Soun after he died, so he can claim to be a Hojo
My favourite thing is the childhood names of Nobunaga's sons. They sound like he just named them after the first object he saw.
Concubine: "My lord you have a new son what should we name him"
Nobunaga, looking around frantically: "Uhhhh ... Tea Whisk?"
Maybe when his first kid was born, he saw and had never seen a newborn baby before, and thought he was 'Strange' hence the name. As for his second son, some kids are born with thick hair and it could be spiky, or flare outwards especially when wet. Maybe he thought he looked like a tea whisk?
At least they were silly childhood names and not modern legal names that are tedious to change.
"What's your name again?"
"Which one? I have 7, I think"
"All of them"
Refer to me as 青神 大輔.
@@ale895 same with the Pharoahs of Egypt. Or Pablo Picasso's full name. Or what I think is funnier: the English economist Nicholas Barebone's middle name If-Jesus-Christ-had-not-died-for-thee-thou-hadst-been-damned
This sounds like it could lead into that hilarious extremely long name battle from Fullmetal Alchemist, lol.
Imagine a conversation between a Spanish noble and a daimyo about their five billion names XD
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley ah yes, the jugemu jugemu bullshit
I never thought you'd be Vietnamese. Since your entire content is about Japan and a little bit of Korea and China, I always thought you were Japanese 😂👌🏻🇯🇵
Right
Thou id love for him to cover more about both countries
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Funny timing, I just rewatched Extra Credit's series on the Sengoku period, and you had commented about how hard it must be for Japanese people to keep track of Medieval European names, because they reuse names and only differentiate by numbers.
Haha what a coincidence!
Coincidence? I think not!
You're right, I uploaded because I knew you read that comment
@@Linfamy that’s very considerate of you. Not many producers would create great content just for one person. It also served countless others quite well
Here is something un-relate: The reason why in Vietnam there are so many people named “Nguyễn” is because their great grandparents choose to change their name so they wouldn’t get kill by their current ruler.
Why kill by ruler? What did they do?
@@alessiakrone8915 well because the official of the old monarch (1600) often have the same surname as the king. During the time the monarch were in reign, the king would order to kill any officials having name that doesn’t after the king’s surname (Nguyễn) because he afraid of an uprising due to the on going power grabbing and war with their north brother (Lê-Trịnh). So long story short, the officials of the Nguyễn dynasty changed their name and decided to have their children have their surname too.
@@aknowleadge4787 interesting story, but honestly, i dont think changing surname would make someone loyal to you, if they secretly hates you, they are still going to rebel against you even with the same surname.
@@alessiakrone8915 that’s the problem, everyone hate him
@@aknowleadge4787 hahahahaha
I never knew Yoshi is everywhere in the past, Nintendo must be bringing the name back.
2:09 "A Link To The Past"
Bet some of yall regret jumping off Yoshi to his death.
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@@Linfamy Lol, maybe not the best analogy but I had to sneak in a Fujiwara reference
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@@Linfamy what are you doing stepbrother?!
Now I want a Vietnamese history series 😩
Me thinking about changing my nationality, changed my profession from doctor to engineer:
Where is my exp???
that's a horizontal move! simply go to the institution called "university", complete your career change quest, and have the seal from the guild of engineers. your exp remains the same if you go with a good subclass of engineers.
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Not only didn't I major in Engineering/Law/Medicine... I had no intention to do that at all and went on to proudly boast my humanities MA and be unemployed for several years.
And today? Still studying humanities in my spare time and getting excited about it.
Incidentally, there's an upcoming TV drama from NHK titled "Dousuru Ieyasu" which translates to "What you gonna do Ieyasu?".
It's supposed to be bringing change into the usual serious tone of NHK historical dramas. That super casual title is already a hint.
That would explain why in certain anime everyone still refers to each other by either their their surnames
Anime is a hell of a drug
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''An effective strategy called making shit up." I giggle/snorted.
2:10 It was like a *link to the past*
Is that a Zelda reference?
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Japanese: We be tongue twister with our names.
Germans: That's cute.
Are you talking about titles? German names are fairly easy, especially after the widespread of Christianity through the region.
As far as titles go, there was a weird period with Prussian politics and HRE shenanigans, but even then, a singular lord’s title wasn’t very complex, they just had no consistency across the realms.
@@jacksonhoerster3966 I guess that depends on how good you want the pronounciation to be. Pronouncing German names and titles well enough that they can be understood is probably doable for many people. Pronouncing them correctly though...
I mean, maybe I'm wrong and there are plenty of non German speakers who pronounce "Freiherr" and "Hochwohlgeboren" and names like Eberhard von Schlüsselberg with great ease, but I somehow doubt it.
One subscribe for a fellow Vietnamese. Was going through some Sengoku Jidai videos and wonder "Why they change their names like... all the time?" and stumble upon this one. Keep up the good work mate.
In Samurai Warriors 2, encountering Hideyoshi in stages passing through early years (When he working under Nobunaga) his surname was Hashiba but after the stage where he fight Akechi his surname is Toyotomi. I dont remember if that ever happen if the player was Hideyoshi but I did found confusing at first since on the character select screen his surname is Toyotomi.
I always found that interesting about the game. And yeah I eventually found out that changing names was common in Japan.
When Hideyoshi was serving Nobunaga and was climbing up the ranks, he needed a more prominent surname. That's the reason he asked permission from two of Nobunaga's generals, Shibata Katsuie and Niwa Nagahide, to use the surname "Hashiba". Hashiba is the combined word from "Ha" (or Wa) from Niwa and "Shiba" from Shibata. Ofcourse, as Hideyoshi is an able officer and a colleague, the two men allowed him to use the surname under one condition; that Hideyoshi must never shame their names.
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I had always assumed you were Japanese, maybe you could make a series on Vietnamese history once start running out of stuff on Japan it’s such a fascinating yet overlooked subject
the concept of gifting a piece of your name to someone or be gifted that way by a mentor or friend is definitely the apex of awesome.
Great video! Finally an explanation to a wild and wacky world of samurai names haha. Usually, in history books 1000 and 1 names of Ieyasu Tokugawa or someone important like him are never really truly explained so it's nice to finally be able to understand it!
Glad you found it helpful!
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Something I've always wondered about is why the Meiji period author and poet Kunikida Doppo changed the name that he was given at birth. He was born Kunikida Kamekichi, but legally changed his name to Kunikida Tetsuo during his student life (Doppo was a pseudonym he used... and that's a good thing, because any parent who names their child Doppo is just cruel, because it means "one who walks alone"), and even today, if you Google Kunikida, on most sites, you'll find the name "Tetsuo" mentioned instead of Kamekichi. I wonder if the name change had anything to do with his upbringing/family life. His father was a samurai, who had retired as one early, because of the changing social structure and samurais becoming more and more obsolete. Kunikida's father resorted to looking for other jobs and his family moved around a lot. They also faced financial troubles. However, Kunikida's father still held the respect and awe of the general public because of his ex-samurai status, and Kunikida himself was brought up with those values ingrained in him. At the time he changed his name, he had ambitions of making it big in the political world, and of becoming a general or something in the army to serve his country. Somewhere along the line, he realised that wasn't who he was and that his real calling was writing, but by then, he had been calling himself Tetsuo for quite some time. So, did he change his name because of his political ambition at the time? He was the ambitious son of a samurai, so was his name change politically/traditionally motivated? And if so, why the change from Kamekichi to Tetsuo? What are the significance of those names? Of course, the change here is of the first name, not the family name. But why did he change it?
If anyone knows the answer please enlighten me, because this is something I've wondered about for ages, but have never found any explanation for it
"IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE! MILLIONS OF SAMURAIS SUFFER EVERY YEAR!" -Probably some random person in Japan.
There's a reason impostor plots are a cliche...
Omggg thank you for this informative video! I always wondered about the long names. Also, would it be okay to suggest topics for future vids? Such as how people in ancient Japan traveled to get to places near and far (road trip!) and what they ate on the road.
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Thank you for this video.
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This was very enlightening.. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching 👍
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"The word is the thing and the thing is the word"
THE BIRD IS THE WORD
Wow, that's so cool, that you're Vietnamese!
I have a very close friend from Vung Tau. I've visited Hanoi, Halong Bay, some jungle villages and rice farms in the north, Pleiku, Danang, Hue, Vung Tau and Ho-Chi-Minh City with her and her relatives (strangely enough, one of her sisters lives in Denver).
Her hometown was the best place... although the very strong waves of the Pacific Ocean stole my bikini top there. It should have reached California by now 🤔
But the Vietnamese people on the beach were super polite and ignored me coming out of the water covering myself with my hands... even the teen boy soccer team. The only one who kept staring was an Englishman in a safari suit. But he later explained to me, that he had been in Southeast Asia for 3 months at this point (as a photographer) and had only seen very... flat-chested ladies, so someone "blessed" like me (my granny's words, not mine) immediately sparked his interest: He couldn't look away because of an acute fit of homesickness. But at least he bought me a drink and apologised and managed not to drool.
Anyway, let me tell you about some other people with more than one name.
Hey.
Stop pondering which bra size I might have. I assure you they're enormous. Ouch. My back. There's a reason why I have to wear this backpack full of lead plates, that I've stolen from various professional racehorse saddles.
We're talking about several ethnic groups in the savannah regions of Africa, who think that hyenas will mimick human language to lure people away from their villages at night to eat them.
They're so paranoid (the people, not the hyenas - TRY to focus!), that they think hyenas will hide in the tall grass during the day and listen to people chatting to pick up their names. Then at night, like a Navajo skinwalker they will call them by those names in hopes that they can make them come into the pitchblack darkness outside of the palisades/thornbush barricades.
Therefore some tribes have "herder names" for people taking care of livestock. These names will only be used by herders for other herders during the time they are working. If someone calls them by a herder name when they're not working, i.e. at night when they're trying to find some bushes within the village enclosure to take a dump, they know it's a hyena and won't react to it.
There are werehyenas, too, but let just sink in, that something like African skinwalker lore exists and is based on hyenas (= animals that can actually mimick human sounds like laughter or screams), instead of coyotes.
That staring man was a bit gross. I wouldn’t have accepted a drink from him by fear he’d put some substance in it. I suppose I’m paranoid about “photographers” since they usually end up being normal guys looking for nudes. 🙄
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I enjoyed reading you. Very informative + you’re hilarious 👌🏼
goddamn have I struck gold on this channel! Thanks Linfamy, currently binging all your vids -- distracts me from my mental health abyss ♥
Glad you like the vids :D
japanese history never ceases to amaze me o.o
even changing names back in the day is controversial xD
thank you for the nice video, sir Lin!
I was once known as "X" now I change it "Y" xD
Toyotomi Hideyoshi was WILD yall. You should make a video on him. He was kinda nuts
I really like your videos. Could you maybe also talk about the history of other countries?
Oh, so you are Vietnamese. I have always suspected that you are since I am also Vietnamese but I am more into Chinese and Japanese culture too :3
Love the video 💗
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Very interesting!!
Lawdy, this gives me flashbacks to when I read the Romance of the Three Kingdoms (in Korean) and Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu would introduce themselves to each other-and it kept going-it has been awhile, but I recall something like family name, informal name, formal name...
Last time I was here this guy had 20k subs, and he was talking about princess from a melon or something,Now he has 200k👍
Regarding the Chinese not referring to people by first name, it depended. Depending on your social station relative to the other person, you could be referred to by your given name (名), your title or role, or your courtesy name (字), which was given to high-class males during the Capping Ceremony, a ceremony conducted when they turned 20 and became men. In China's Warring States period, you could refer to yourself by your given name (名) as a means of self-deprecation.
A neat thing to note about East Asian naming conventions is that, in China at least, the shared character between siblings would be part of a poem that would include that shared character as well as characters in the names of their ancestors and descendants.
Another samurai name video! I’m so happy!!
I can’t believe the number of samurai who just... made stuff up and got away with it, the audacity
I guess “bigger army diplomacy” goes a long way towards making the truth more flexible? Also, the lack of extensive records back then probably helped...
My family has been using the same middle name for their first born sons for five generations and I plan to keep it going my with my first born son
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Theres some common name usage in Scotland too. James and John appear often in families as first or middle names.
The Court: You can't have Mikawa and this Document you sent us is fake! You're not a descendant of Tokugawa
Ieyasu: 🎶Don't believe me, just watch!🎶
Make a video on yamato no orochi-the 8 headed dragon
There are some similar aspects to sumo wrestlers' names (shikona). For example, earlier this year, after being promoted to ozeki Kotonowaka changed his shikona to Kotozakura. Also if a wrestler retires and becomes a coach he always changes his name. I don't know why.
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entertaining and educational? Bruh
Ah i love these haha!!
Me: That's good and all but how do I *hire a samurai*?
You need a bunch of Kingly stuff to protect from Criminals, for instance: Land which people grow food on, which everybody needs to SURVIVE.
You dont hire samurai, samurai is not mercenary. They are subject of their lord. What you can hire is ronin.
Omg, I started studying Japanese history since the last semester at University and I was really confused because of this haha. Thank u so much for the video 💚 I really like your channel.
Nice! Good luck in your studies :)
My middle and last name is the reverse version of my dad’s middle and last name. One of both of our names is the surname of our family line or “clan” to use a more familiar term.
in some convoluted way, this video made a certain Kikuchiyo-related plotpoint in The Seven Samurai make a lot more sense to me
Yes! I felt it strange that a grown man had a Youmyou, a child name, when I watched the movie for the first time.
Dude I didn't know you were Vietnamese. I hope you can do a video about Vietnam switching from Hanzi to Latin alphabet. It's interesting for me coz the Philippines were "encouraged" to swtich from our native script to Latin.
So, Japan invented changing Twitter username for political purpose...
😂
It's really a facinating subject...
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0:58
Me, an Ikesen player: hi, Yasu kun
My brother was always Yoshimitsu. I preferred Mitsurugi. :P
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I dont know if you made any videos about the topic yet , but if you haven’t already , could you make some videos about the Tokugawa Shogunate ?
At least I know nothing about what happened after the unification ...
Sekigahara 1600 , Siege of Osaka 1615 (end of the Sengoku Jidai) - ??? - 1853 Commodore M. Perry opens Japan to the world , 1868 Meiji Restoration and end of the Tokugawa Shogunate . There are at least from what I’ve seen , no videos about the Tokugawa Shogunate . Please if you see this comment , give it a thought , thanks
man the way you described the Asian family with college majors described my family perfectly, and i am from a jewish family.
I feel your pain 😅
@@Linfamy they always want doctors and lawyers, but never really think about how much pressure that puts on you.😞
Last time I was this early I was still in middle school.
This is like an origin of why shipping name are named like mixing parents name.
Does this mean that actor Ken Watanabe is descended from the famous clan?
my great great grandfather was given the name kinjo, meaning golden castle by his lord.
Can you please explain the history of current Japanese imperial family? I'm really curious
I thought their culture made a big deal of respecting parents, so wouldn't that include not altering your given name? I'm genuinely curious if its considered disrespectful (to the parents) for a person to change their own first name from what they were given.
Not just samurai, lots of Japanese people had long names. I always refer to Soga no Ishikawa no Omi no Kurayamada no Maro in these instances.
Linfamy, can you make videos about the difference between modern Japanese names, medieval Japanese names and ancient Japanese names? Because i notice there are significant difference in how Japanese people name themselves back then and now, but i can't explain it. For example in our culture back then any name had meaning behind it, but today some people name their kid with fancy modern names that actually gibberish just because they think it sound cool. For example there was this girl named Wawa. Is this also the case in Japanese names?
Cheeky Ieyasu dropping the loyal part of his name as soon as he married
When he said Taira I immidetly thought of Taira no Kagekiyo
We should return to this
My ancestors in old time Britain changed their family name to avoid conscription to the navy
WAIT.... HOLD UP!!! Ure Vietnamese? I had no idea I was watching a fellow Vietnamese after all this time. Well, chao ban
Xin chao 👍
So what you're saying is that if I change my surname to that of Kawasaki's CEO I can get a company discount?
Never thought you're Vietnamese. You said your parents call you White, is that Bạch?
Also about the childhood name, mine was Xíu, like in Bé Xíu, meaning small, because I was tiny back then. I still am though
Neat.
Sweet.
You should right a book on yokai.
Weren't the Oda Clan actually descended from the Taira so in Nobunaga's case it wasn't entirely a lie
Vietnamese doing videos about Japan. I did not see that coming.
1:35 - 2:12 Ashikaga Takauji adopts Yoshi into his Clan and then teams up with Link and To The Past, where they change their usernames 2:25 - 4:10 so as to Save Princess Zelda and troll lower-level Families, 4:10 - 7:05 whilst gaining pre-order bonuses 7:05 - 9:09
4:38 japan during ww2: " we do a little trolling"
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Me having 10 nickname: Ey call me *insert the 10 nickname* .
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Thank god
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I always wondered what the origin of my last name (Suzuki) since there were no Suzuki clans in the feudal and ancient Japan, so I thought it was some made up shit from the late Edo period, but I have recently found out about the Saika clan, whose rulers were all from the Suzuki family. If anyone knows about earlier uses of this family name, I would really like to know. Thanks ^-^
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so whatg did the original Toku Gawa do to make him chimp off the name so hard?
So when does Linfamy changes his name ? 🤔
Kingfamy
🤔🤔... Interesting.
Damn samurai swapped names like Taylor swift swaps boyfriends
Character sharing thing between siblings is also prevelant in Korean culture. (rather syllable tho)
19 seconds ago!
I'll watch it and update it, please calm down shinobu_69.
Edit : couldnt think of a comment- please forgive me
Also I was first since I am the only one who got 5 mins ago first 👌
in India your father's name used as middle name
My grandfather would call me ichiban as a nickname....
And does that mean first born.....