There's clearly an adult in her life that has touched her inappropriately and her dance with Jack just reminded her of that awful experience. Jack is not the kind of man who would touch minors like that. Something happened to her during the time she was growing up and she just blocked it out of her head to cope.
I think she is confused. Yeah Jack didn't do anything wrong, but probably whenever the person who abused her would touch her there, it would lead to the abuse. That's the thing about childhood sexual abuse, it blurs the lines of what is innocent and what isn't. An innocent touch has been corrupted by past experiences.
Yeahhh. Happened with me I think. Vague memories of stuff with no face/name to the stuff, made me terrified of my dad for a while BC I was convinced he was, like, after me. (Tbf he did some other pretty messed up things that made me super uncomfortable as a teenager but nothing physical)
That was trauma, immediate trauma, you could see it written all over, bless her heart, it’s so sad that she’s wrongly accused him, but trauma can obviously affect people differently, unfortunately for her she’s got the wrong idea and has become accusatory. I feel maybe her mums previous partners have done inappropriate stuff during parties with music perhaps?
@keeperofthe7keys1987 if that's the case then why are you ignoring the facts here? Frankie wasn't straight up lying, she thought that the same thing was happening to her again, you are actually unbelievable 😤
But she didn't though, when Jack touched her lower back when dancing you can clearly see that she got scared, something obviously happened to her in the past
I feel the same way about that. Somehow her Mother had an Ex-Boyfriend and he abused her Daughter and she wanted her real Father Darren to be with her but he wasn’t. What do you think?????
@@ChelseyLinden I see what you mean. Unfortunately it's not uncommon for women with children having a new male partner who take advantage of daughters.
@@nonnobis2232 OA the way I see it Suzanne now is reminding me a similarity to my Mother when she brought a bunch of Makes over and she was locking lips with them but none of them actually abused me (however I was raped by a 12 1/2 Year old Boy and I was only 7 when this happened) still I didn’t wanna tell Mother about it but when I did my oldest Half-Sister finally convinced me to tell her and I could still tell by the look in her eyes she didn’t care she was only pretending. Still I hope Frankie will come clean and get through this. 😟🤞🏻
At least she told the truth on what happened, and didn’t make it out to be something it’s not. She and jack will forgive each other and she will no he didn’t mean no harm
Are we not going to talk about how JJ & Frankie were born in 2010 (which makes them 12/13) but they both look physically 16? Channel4 could have picked actors who actually look the correct age. If they were born in 2010, they would be 12 or 13, not 16.
@@ChelseyLindenThe actors for JJ & Frankie are fine, they are both funny but they just don't look the right age they are playing which is too weird for me 😂
Oh these comments make me sad knowing the full context :( (her brother used to SA her when they were 9 (still does but i believe it resumed after this episode?) , this reminded her of it so she got confused)
most likely BUT I hope they sort this out and she is taught to NOT lie. because Lies like this are one of the BIGGEST reasons why victims dont get believed.
@keeperofthe7keys1987 Then you'd know how traumatic it is. And maybe Frankie misread the situation and took Jack's gesture that way because maybe thats how it was for her with whomever took advantage of her.
I agree. and a false accusation that sorta thing doesnt go away jus with an explanation and apology either she could easily ruined jacks whole life. i mean I get she has problems but that doesn't really change the facts.@keeperofthe7keys1987
@@Espada2234 Now that we know what we know now tho she wasn't lying. That's genually how the abuse started from JJ so I really believe that she wasn't meaning to like and actually thought it was something innapropriate or would lead to something innapropriate because thats how it started with JJ
@keeperofthe7keys1987 Now that we know what we know now tho she wasn't lying. That's genually how the abuse started from JJ so I really believe that she wasn't meaning to like and actually thought it was something innapropriate or would lead to something innapropriate because thats how it started with JJ
Obviously Frankie that an issue I can't believe she thinks Jack would touch her inappropriately Jack isn't like that To be honest Nancy I don't know why you like Darren he is not a good father material he didn't even told Frankie that she was wrong for hitting Nancy btw Nancy you don't have to be nice to Frankie you already have a lot of things going on in your life
If I was Frankie I wouldn’t be so worried about him touching her back as such but I’d be more worried about him touching private parts like the buttocks, Virgina or chest but he touch neither so I think she is going through a past trauma, be different if he touched her in private parts but at the same time consent wasn’t exactly clear in this storyline, Frankie said she didn’t want to dance he shouldn’t have gotten her to dance but she still went ahead with it, feel 50/50 on this one!
Isn't that just a normal way to dance, especially for the older generation ive noticed, they dance how it was always taught and absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Oh my OA Frankie just lied about Jack “touching her” he was being real gentle and calm and just wanted to have a dance with his Granddaughter. It’s sweet he showed her a picture of them on their wedding day (must’ve been a beautiful wedding back then even though I can’t watch it online or anything) still I do think something happened to Frankie a long time ago with an ex of hers or her Mother’s Ex or something. I also heard that Frankie and Lucas are going to become “a couple” and JJ “Deveraux 😉” tries to talk Lucas out of it but he refuses, ooh I feel like he’s gonna be abusive towards her like how Ste was to Amy back then. Also I loved how Nancy was talking to Frankie and trying to set some boundaries and conditions with her I really do hope things will get better for Frankie and even JJ. 🥺
Frankie doesn't (oh no I meant her mum) like her baby's dad and her husband being together because when they were in the pub she was making faces at them
Agree with everyone on here. When the music changed had a feeling that someone in her past took advantage of her. I'm thinking maybe one of Suzanne's ex's hurt Frankie
Oh no, poor Frankie. Jack has actually touched her while he having a dance with a teenage girl who was 13. I’m feel sorry for her and I’m just wanna hug her. Nancy will sort this out for Jack. 💔
ye i feel the same. he touched her lower back when he was dancing and that's what made her scared and uncomfortable. i also think what happened is something happened to her growing up and she blocked it out until jack touched her and that triggered to what happened to her when she was growing up
Wait lol are you people tapped lol this isn't real life we're people hiding their true motives lol no we see it because we're their Gods do you think they would just make him a sick rapper are 20 years? No stop it smh he doesn't touch kids no one truly wakes one morning and touches kids
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There's clearly an adult in her life that has touched her inappropriately and her dance with Jack just reminded her of that awful experience. Jack is not the kind of man who would touch minors like that. Something happened to her during the time she was growing up and she just blocked it out of her head to cope.
Yes I reckon maybe a partner of her mums. She doesn’t seem like she pays much attention to her kids
her twin brother ….. yikes
I think she is confused. Yeah Jack didn't do anything wrong, but probably whenever the person who abused her would touch her there, it would lead to the abuse. That's the thing about childhood sexual abuse, it blurs the lines of what is innocent and what isn't. An innocent touch has been corrupted by past experiences.
I agree but while the victim is confused, an innocent man losers everything & then when the truth is revealed, it's just to late.
Yeahhh. Happened with me I think. Vague memories of stuff with no face/name to the stuff, made me terrified of my dad for a while BC I was convinced he was, like, after me. (Tbf he did some other pretty messed up things that made me super uncomfortable as a teenager but nothing physical)
That was trauma, immediate trauma, you could see it written all over, bless her heart, it’s so sad that she’s wrongly accused him, but trauma can obviously affect people differently, unfortunately for her she’s got the wrong idea and has become accusatory. I feel maybe her mums previous partners have done inappropriate stuff during parties with music perhaps?
Why Frankie defends her mum's ex but accuses all the innocent people? Mad
She must have been assaulted in the past and still has unhealed trauma.
Thank you, finally someone who isn't ignorant! 🙄
@keeperofthe7keys1987 if that's the case then why are you ignoring the facts here? Frankie wasn't straight up lying, she thought that the same thing was happening to her again, you are actually unbelievable 😤
Frankie is making it up, jack never did anything
Tracy Jacob I think she probably had a memory or something when Jack put his hand on her back.
Its not him having done anything but one of Suzanne's exes which brings back memories 😢
But she didn't though, when Jack touched her lower back when dancing you can clearly see that she got scared, something obviously happened to her in the past
@@janetjorgen7275 OA exactly. I feel so sorry for Frankie. You think she’ll get through this? I hope she will. 😟🤞🏻
@@sarahyeates OA exactly! I know what it feels like I’ve been in her shoes when I was 7.
Frankie has got it all wrong
I get the feeling somthing like this has happend in the past
Nebbynetwork2089 WD what do you mean?🤔
I feel the same way about that. Somehow her Mother had an Ex-Boyfriend and he abused her Daughter and she wanted her real Father Darren to be with her but he wasn’t. What do you think?????
@@ChelseyLinden I see what you mean. Unfortunately it's not uncommon for women with children having a new male partner who take advantage of daughters.
@@ChelseyLinden WD go and clean your house.
@@nonnobis2232 OA the way I see it Suzanne now is reminding me a similarity to my Mother when she brought a bunch of Makes over and she was locking lips with them but none of them actually abused me (however I was raped by a 12 1/2 Year old Boy and I was only 7 when this happened) still I didn’t wanna tell Mother about it but when I did my oldest Half-Sister finally convinced me to tell her and I could still tell by the look in her eyes she didn’t care she was only pretending. Still I hope Frankie will come clean and get through this. 😟🤞🏻
At least she told the truth on what happened, and didn’t make it out to be something it’s not. She and jack will forgive each other and she will no he didn’t mean no harm
Hate Frankie
how about now?
Are we not going to talk about how JJ & Frankie were born in 2010 (which makes them 12/13) but they both look physically 16? Channel4 could have picked actors who actually look the correct age. If they were born in 2010, they would be 12 or 13, not 16.
Alan Weird I know but still I actually like it. 😊
@@ChelseyLindenThe actors for JJ & Frankie are fine, they are both funny but they just don't look the right age they are playing which is too weird for me 😂
It's annoying when they do that, usually it's because they intend the character to be involved in more adult storylines which is grim.
@@Alan78941 OA well here’s a quote for you. ☺️ “No weird is good.”
@@nonnobis2232 OA I actually don’t mind it tbh. ☺️
Oh these comments make me sad knowing the full context :( (her brother used to SA her when they were 9 (still does but i believe it resumed after this episode?) , this reminded her of it so she got confused)
Frankie is annoying me now this it too far
Nancy is an absolute boss queen ❤
Chelsea OA definitely. 😊
This lil cow! He did not!!!!
It’s most be so awful not having basic common sense to realise she’s a 13 year old child who is a sexual assault victim.
I seriously do not like where this is going because Hollyoaks has been doing a terrible job with heavy stories recently.
Just imagine, people could be sat in a jail cell who are innocent through things like what Frankie accused jack of, scary thought
it was her broither that did
I would never let a kid have even one sip.
There is a reason Frankie is the way she is. I'm guessing she was taken advantage of by someone in the past and its left its mark mentally.
most likely BUT I hope they sort this out and she is taught to NOT lie. because Lies like this are one of the BIGGEST reasons why victims dont get believed.
@keeperofthe7keys1987 Then you'd know how traumatic it is. And maybe Frankie misread the situation and took Jack's gesture that way because maybe thats how it was for her with whomever took advantage of her.
I agree. and a false accusation that sorta thing doesnt go away jus with an explanation and apology either she could easily ruined jacks whole life. i mean I get she has problems but that doesn't really change the facts.@keeperofthe7keys1987
@@Espada2234 Now that we know what we know now tho she wasn't lying. That's genually how the abuse started from JJ so I really believe that she wasn't meaning to like and actually thought it was something innapropriate or would lead to something innapropriate because thats how it started with JJ
@keeperofthe7keys1987 Now that we know what we know now tho she wasn't lying. That's genually how the abuse started from JJ so I really believe that she wasn't meaning to like and actually thought it was something innapropriate or would lead to something innapropriate because thats how it started with JJ
Suzanne needs to take herself and kids out of Nancy and Darren's life for good
Obviously Frankie that an issue I can't believe she thinks Jack would touch her inappropriately Jack isn't like that To be honest Nancy I don't know why you like Darren he is not a good father material he didn't even told Frankie that she was wrong for hitting Nancy btw Nancy you don't have to be nice to Frankie you already have a lot of things going on in your life
If I was Frankie I wouldn’t be so worried about him touching her back as such but I’d be more worried about him touching private parts like the buttocks, Virgina or chest but he touch neither so I think she is going through a past trauma, be different if he touched her in private parts but at the same time consent wasn’t exactly clear in this storyline, Frankie said she didn’t want to dance he shouldn’t have gotten her to dance but she still went ahead with it, feel 50/50 on this one!
Jack didn't absolutely nothing wrong,
I really hope this storyline is about the people who get wrongly accused
Isn't that just a normal way to dance, especially for the older generation ive noticed, they dance how it was always taught and absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Oh my OA Frankie just lied about Jack “touching her” he was being real gentle and calm and just wanted to have a dance with his Granddaughter. It’s sweet he showed her a picture of them on their wedding day (must’ve been a beautiful wedding back then even though I can’t watch it online or anything) still I do think something happened to Frankie a long time ago with an ex of hers or her Mother’s Ex or something. I also heard that Frankie and Lucas are going to become “a couple” and JJ “Deveraux 😉” tries to talk Lucas out of it but he refuses, ooh I feel like he’s gonna be abusive towards her like how Ste was to Amy back then. Also I loved how Nancy was talking to Frankie and trying to set some boundaries and conditions with her I really do hope things will get better for Frankie and even JJ. 🥺
@@Michael.ChelseaFC4605 OA I hope that won’t happen but if he does I hope he’ll survive again and Frankie will feel bad about it Michael.
@@Michael.ChelseaFC4605 OA tell me about it. I’m worried about him Michael.
people like frankie are one of the biggest reasons actual victims dont get believed.
Frankie doesn't (oh no I meant her mum) like her baby's dad and her husband being together because when they were in the pub she was making faces at them
What?
I think frankie had something happen to her because she was defienly having some sort of flashback
I hate this Frankie kid! Maybe Dilly can somehow pin the killing Rafe on her instead. 😂
Then again frankie could’ve made an excuse and left the house not go along with jack dancing with her
Nah way don't think so
7:37 WD she has been sexual abused!#Hollyoaks #All4 😥
Wouldn't be surprising, she's had a chaotic childhood and often such children are targeted by predators.
WD?
A decent loyal man? Darren? 😂🤯 0:38
Agree with everyone on here. When the music changed had a feeling that someone in her past took advantage of her.
I'm thinking maybe one of Suzanne's ex's hurt Frankie
I thjnk Frankie has been abused
Yeah it's the trauma and PTSD from it, I'm guessing it's either one of her mother's ex's or her ballet teacher
Trauma incoming, so stupid.🙄
Trauma and PTSD is not stupid wtf
@@sarahyeates Yeah I’m aware, I have it. Which is why I don’t want to keep on watching it on soaps, kinda a downer after what happened Ella ya know?
@@MsTinkerbelle87 if you have it then you should know very well that it's disrespectful to call it stupid
frankie is really pretty. i think she should get with peri
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Oh no, poor Frankie. Jack has actually touched her while he having a dance with a teenage girl who was 13. I’m feel sorry for her and I’m just wanna hug her. Nancy will sort this out for Jack. 💔
Or both of them will sort this out for him.
Jack hasn’t done anything wrong are you serious 😂
ye i feel the same. he touched her lower back when he was dancing and that's what made her scared and uncomfortable. i also think what happened is something happened to her growing up and she blocked it out until jack touched her and that triggered to what happened to her when she was growing up
Jack didnt do anything wrong
Wait lol are you people tapped lol this isn't real life we're people hiding their true motives lol no we see it because we're their Gods do you think they would just make him a sick rapper are 20 years? No stop it smh he doesn't touch kids no one truly wakes one morning and touches kids
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What was Jack thinking not cool at all.Feel bad for Frankie.Hope Nancy sorts it.
Oh come on he didn’t do anything wrong he just wanted to dance with his own Granddaughter.
Are you delusional? Jack didn’t do anything, you clearly haven’t been watching have you?
If anything has happened to Frankie in the past, then how the f**k would Jack know that!!!!!!!!
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