The so-called discipline they did is just a projection of what they've experienced before. This shouldn't be glorified. This type of mindset or way of thinking causes a lot of emotional trauma to some who experienced this. THIS SHOULDN'T BE NORMALIZED. THIS IS NOT LOVE, there are a lot of ways to lecture your children and you don't need to harm them. :) psych student here
@@chuuyanism Right? It's really saddening that this way of thinking still exists... There are still a lot of people that are doing and glorifying this so-called disciplinary method. Hindi dahil normal o ginagawa to dati ay ibigsabihin tama na, hindi porque nasanay tayo ay dapat nang i-normalize.
I totally agree with what you've said, It was actually super triggering as I kind of experienced the same thing but not with physical abuse but verbal abuse. The comments are glorifying the said discipline bc most of them are fans and seeing positive comments abt it affects the way of thinking of others, that's why I think they view it positively and praising it also they ways of discipline before (unang panahon whatsoever from the old generation) is so diff from now, there are alot of ways to discipline. It is shocking and saddening.
Wait, I don't understand. Oni gets upset that a foreigner guy physically assaulted Paye and they decided not to tell her. And Oni said she should have told her about it because she wanted to protect her. Because she is still a minor that time. Minutes later, she started to physically and verbally assault Paye 😨 Because of the reason that she slept with a lesbian friend when she is not a minor anymore. Didnt she just contradicted herself and just do exactly the same of what the foreigner guy did? Doesn't seemed to me that you are protecting Paye by assaulting her. I'm not saying that Paye is right but she is of legal age anyway. Tapos final resort daw nya yung manakit? E pucha parang sa simula palang di mo naman din dinaan sa masinsinang usapan. Sasabihin mong gagawin mo yung way ng pagdidisiplina ng lola mo sayo as a last resort. Obviously it didn't seemed to work out well with you also how your grandma raised. Halatang di ka naman din nadisiplina. Naglandi ka din nung kabataan mo. Maaga nabuntis. Tingin mo ba naging effective yung pagdidisiplina ng lola mo sayo? Tas gagawin mo yang pambubugbog in front of Tyronia? Sa tingin mo magandang example din yang binibigay mo sa anak mo na normal yung manakit physically and verbally because mahal mo? Grabeng panggagaslight yan. Ginagawa mo lang yun dahil mahal mo? I don't buy that bullshit. Sabihin na natin ginawa mo yung pagpapasexy para mataguyod mo yung family mo. Now that you reached your goal obviously mayaman ka na, may career na sa showbiz. Pwede mo na nga itigil paghuhubad mo. May business na din. And yet you still keep on stripping off your clothes just for money and clout. Ginagawa mo yan not because you love her. Ginagawa mo yan because you want to intimidate and dominate. Kung tutuusin nga Toni ikaw ang dapat disiplinahin. Despite reaching your goal parang wala ka pa din naman natutunan. What if disiplinahin ka din nila dahil wala ka ding kontrol sa sarili mo. Dahil mali din ang pinaggagagawa mo? If there is someone who is actually not a good role model for Tyronia, it's you Oni. Shame on you and your blind followers. Maybe Paye might have taught Tyronia to hide secrets. But you Oni, teaching Tyronia that physical and verbal abuse is OK. You are teaching her that stripping naked is good. You are much much much of a bad role model Toni. And you deserve pambubugbog also since that is your way of disciplining. Kaloka. Nagsisimula palang tong The Originals pero parang matatapos na. Now I was thinking kung binubugbog din ni Oni si Tyronia. Naiintindihan ko din kung bat sya natatakot magsumbong sayo. Pag sinabi ba nya sayo, di mo ba sya bubugbugin?
For sure hindi nya bubug bugin tyronia anak nya eh , si paye kasi hindi nya ka ano ano , lalokohan na mahal mo sasaktan mo ?? yung ate nma pinbyaan lng na bugbugin kptid nya mga sunod sunuran walang sariling isip.
Remember, people. We are NOT in the 1990's anymore. Physical abuse is NOT discipline. If this is how you discipline your children, then don't be surprised if one day, lumayo sila sayo. 😊 It's okay to discipline your child. But be careful on how you do it. A trauma isn't a joke and it will never be. You can make your kids realize their fault without causing them physical pain. ❤
@@t.torishuyo01 Hindi yan flex na kadtong bata pa kayo ang tanda na ng mindset nyo. If ana ang mindset nyo nung bata pa kayo, wala kayong childhood at ang inner child nyo ay broken. Just because okay ang Child abuse sa 1990's doesn't mean na kailangan e implement yan sa ngayon. Kung ganyan ka sa mga anak mo if meron kang anak mayroon dako na probability na pagka tanda ng mga anak mo hindi na sila gusto makipag communicate sayo kasi na trauma sila sa mga ginawa mo na tinawag mo ng "discipline".
Haha actually mas masaya nga childhood ko kasi alam ko yung mga dapat gawin at tama at mali KASI NATUTO AKO. Nasa sa'yo yan kung paano mo hahaluan ng paliwanag kung bakit mo ginawa yon. Kung papaluin mo lang nang ganon ganon ay talagang hindi 'yan maiintindihan at magtatanim ng sama ng loob. Pero kapag naintindihan nila bakit mo yun kinailangang gawin, mas malaki yung possibility na mas maging maayos silang tao. Duh!
I remembered being treated like that but no one hugged me in the end. It felt like I was a worthless piece of trash, the memory is still vivid, I can almost feel it like it only happened yesterday. I am not a teenager anymore but the trauma is still here, things like that will always be painful to remember.
Watching this vlog made me realize how lucky the rest who left this group is. Imagine the kind of relief Aviona, Unicorn, Nanay, Tatay, Mikay, Tatan felt after leaving.
this so-called discipline shouldn’t be tolerated. i feel so sorry for paye, no one deserves to be abused and experience traumatic events like that. why lay hands on her when you could just talk and discipline her in a nice way?
@@sheloangielouzurita2007at sa tingin mo madadala siya kung bubug-bugin? Siya nga eh dinisiplina din si oni ng Lola niya ng ganito look what she become
yes true but not to move the blame Paye also did her fair share of misdeeds@@Asterr2008 tho not deserving of a beating we are not in the 1900s to still be abusing children but to put myself in toni's place I might have acted on emotion and impulse but thats wrong
I too experienced the same thing. The way I was being disciplined then really traumatized me. I thought I had healed, but watching her hit Paye numerous times brought all the painful memories from my childhood. Naiintindihan ko bakit kelangan gawin, but personally iba naging effect nung actions ng ate ko nun towards me. I built a wall between us & now that I’m old enough, no matter how hard she tries to reach out at maging close kami, hindi ko maibigay. Siguro that’s my way of protecting myself from her kasi I always have this thought na bubugbugin nya pa din ako whenever she gets upset or disappointed sa akin. She’s a good sister, a generous one like Toni. But sometimes, our actions regardless of our intention, can leave a painful mark & I hope hindi na maulet. I don’t hate the person, I hate the action.
You're right i experience the same thing. It's not effective, I'm just traumatized. My father used to "discipline" me by hitting me with belt, hangers, stick, slippers, cursing at me, shouting at me at a young age and i swear i grow up hating him and i always wanted revenge and i sometimes wish that he wasn't my father.
Seeing these comments praising that kind of discipline is giving me goosebumps. The problem could've been discussed properly without being aggressive. The foul words, slaps and sound of being hit is triggering. Especially ginawa pa 'yon sa harap ng bata, tyronia witnessed her mom hitting paye is traumatizing for her tbh not only for paye, you can see it in her face. That's not a good example. So scary. That's literally physical violence/abuse she's showing to others (cuz pinost pa), and to her daughters. So funny that people think na that's how discipline should be. If that's how you discipline your kid (ang toxic mo), don't be surprised na kapag lumaki 'yan, iiwan ka at hahayaan ka nang mag-isa. The trauma is so hard to heal
Tomo @exclusivesweetmint mga uto uto kamo yan mga fans nya for iphone 14 ung toni galit doon sa paye kasi sa to,boy eh tomboy bka sya lng gusto kay paye 😂😂😂😂😂
Korek hindi takga maganda pakingan, cguro sa jba ay okey lang pero kung ikaw kapatid hapi kaya mo lang panuurin yan na ginaganyan ang kapatid mo sa akin never!! Sabagay sa akin lang naman iwan ko sa iba!! Takot ata si hapi na mawalan ng susutento ni toni iwan ko yan its not about love its about control!!!
as someone who grew up in a toxic household and later developed different traumas, I feel sorry for Paye. she doesn't deserve mommy Oni's physical abuse. the situation could be resolved through serious talks or discipline without causing harm to Paye. witnessing the violence could also cause trauma, especially for Tyronia who was present throughout. that's why I don't understand people who still praise Toni Fowler for her violence towards Paye. I don't see any care or love in the hurtful words she said and the physical abuse she inflicted on Paye. it's simply about controlling her. f*ck those cars and luxury. I'd rather work hard to support myself than stay in that toxic Toro household, enduring abuse and developing traumas over time.
Yes ang daming tao may menor de edad pa. I mean bakit kailangang infront of those people. And infront of camera? in front of her biological child? Bakit walang ni isa ang nagcorrect? Sa ganong klaseng discipline. Hindi naman sya adopted child. What if noh sya ang totong nanay? I guess magegets ko pa na ginagawa niya yun but ang totoong nanay hindu yan papakita sa social media.hindi yan ang typical na pagdedesiplina ng totoong nanay.
Ganyan dapat mag disiplina lalo na ngayon mga bata matitigas ang ulo kaya nabubuntis ng maaga kung tutuusin kulang pa yan sa matitigas ang ulo kami nuon latigo ang pinanghahampas samin
hindi physical abuse yan .kung abuse sana paulit ulit na ginagawa ni toni . hindi eh. ilang beses na nag papasensya at iniintindi . pero ganun parin . and in comes in the worst kung saan muntikan na napahamak ang mas bata sa kanya .
This is not love. This is controlling. So sad para sa mga taong nakakaranas ng ganito at sa mga by standers. They are blinded by so-called love or love illusion to see these abusive acts as a form of love and care. And also, so sad for Toni na umabot sya sa point na need nya na magcontrol ng tao para lang hindi sya iwan, dahil takot syang maiwan. Paye did wrong. Walang question dun. Pero yung didisiplinahin sya ni Toni sa pananakit dahil hindi nagsumbong si Paye nung sinaktan sya ng foreigner? Parang may mali diba? Toni said, "Magsalita ka kapag may mali na! Kapag alam mong mali na yung ginagawa sayo ng tao. Isumbong mo sa amin." How? Kung mismong yung mga taong gusto nyang takbuhan yung mismong gumagawa sa kanya ng mali. The pain in Papi's eyes made me tear up. Yung feeling na gusto mong ipagtanggol yung taong mahal mo pero mas pinili mong manahimik kasi alam mo kung saan ka pupulutin at kung anong mawawala sayo kapag umalma ka? Yung mas pinili mong umayon kung kanino ka nagbebenefit? Darling, that is not love. After all the sampal, sabunot, and everything.. still, hindi nakuha ni Toni yung gusto n'ya. Hearing what Paye said? "Mas gusto ko nalang magpabugbog kesa mawalan ako ng car. Ang sarap ng buhay ko dito. Ayokong mamatay na mahirap." Toni didn't gain respect, care, and love. Kahit anong control mo sa ganitong tao, aalis yan sayo kapag wala ka nang maibibigay sa kanila. Toni wants to give love and to be loved, but she needs to learn what is the true meaning of love first. She needs to heal herself first before healing someone. A doctor can't go to hospital if he/she is also sick.
The fact that she made her choose between leaving or getting hit is insane, biological daughter or not you do not physically abuse what you call family.
its not abuse its called DISAPLINA i aldready experience that too...i mean mommy oni is right if she just said it earlier she wont be hurt if someone hurts you,you have to sprang into action or call emergency. you know why you called it abuse.. its because you never experience that. example, that happens to you what will you do...say it or get DISAPLANED if you have nothinh to say good its better to keep your words to your self.
@@kylamaygomez1726pinagsasabi mo dyan teh? di porke binubugbog kayo eh normal na yon! kahit kailan hindi magiging normal ang pag buhatan ka ng kamay ng magulang mo, hindi disiplina ang tawag don!
Now I understand why most people sinasabi sa mga umalis sa Toro fam, “congratulations dahil nakaalis kayo sa toxic place”. Life is hard already. Family should be a safe place to us, not a battle field.✌🏻
GIGIL/BUGBUGAN AND BEST SCENE: 26:52 - Starts from Tyronia 27:26 - Confronting Paye scene 27:49 - Gigil ni Mari scene 28:35 - Confronting Paye 2 scene 29:59 - Toni lesson scene 33:03 - Bakit hiwalay? Lock pinto scene 35:37 - Toni bugbog/concert intro 35:55 - Toni bugbog/concert begin scene 37:19 - Toni bugbog/concert outro 40:57 - Drama/Iyakan scene
@@JohnLennonsocks let's just report the vid. bc some of the viewers are normalizing the abuse and glorifying it, they will probably copy the act of "disclipline"
as someone who grew up in a toxic environment, abusive, and mad people. this video doesn’t really sit right with me-i mean A LOT OF US. this type of way of disciplinary is not always the best way and will never be. always remember that a person can be brave and tough enough without experiencing things like this. emotional stability means so much sa isang individual. speaking as a psych student, mental health advocate, and someone who cares.
The way they say this is "discipline" is not okay. There's so many ways to discipline a child and hitting them is just a way of getting trauma. They could've take it more gently- And actually not physically hurt her. Biological daughter or not, family should NOT hurt each other out of anger. Just because you couldn't handle your emotions doesn't mean you can hurt others and act like okay lang yon because nadala ka sa emosyon. As a person who grew up in a toxic household- I can feel her(Paye) pain. She probably has a trauma now, hugs Ate !!☹️🫶
Yung mga dating members ng toro fam grabe cguro yung pasasalamat nila na wala na cla dyan. I’m happy for them. Yung mga naglakas ng loob na umalis, sila yung talagang kahanga hanga
36:21 As someone who grew up with an abusive father, this brought up those horrible memories. Hitting is not discipline, it's aggression. Hitting as discipline is not normal, it's a choice.
"hinahayaan mong saktan ka non e di kanga non kaano ano" coming from you toni, hindi porque ikaw nag pprovide ng needs nila, may karapatan kanang manakit, ikaw mismo nag sabi na mag sabi sayo pag may mali, at nanasakit sabihin sainyo pero ikaw mismo ang nananakit.
Anu Bayan, ok na Sana disiplina Tama lang yan Pru Anu Bayan ge video mo pa? dyos Mio marimar Toni mnsan sa subrang pagiging good mnsan subra yabang mo Sana Nd muna ge video.
Hindi kailangan maging kadugo o kaapelyido para masabi mong "RELATIVE" kayo, nasa PUDER siya ni Toni, at humingi yan ng permiso sa kapatid niya kasi nga hindi kayang iHandle ni Papi si Paye, malamang sa malamang may pakialam at concern yan si Toni kay paye dahil "ANAK" nga ang turing niya kay paye, mahal nila si paye kaya ganyang ang reaksiyon, hindi lahat nakukuha sa masinsinang usap kung hindi mo lalatayan, danas ko yan sa mismong mga magulang ko, mas malupit pa dyan. Ganyan talaga pag matigas ang ulo, kailangan ng ultimatum para magtino
4 years konang idol at supporter ni mommy oni pero nung nakita koto nawalan nako ng gana sakanya.. This video really broke my heart kase mentally at physically nya sinaktan si paye kahit hindi sila magkadugo 💔
Finally, seeing someone to have the guts to say this. I believe there are other ways you can "discipline" someone with no physical things getting involved. But I don't even know what's the point of doing it in front of your kid, tyronia is just traumatized at this point. Wag na rin kayo mag taka kung mababawasan ulit yang Toro fam.
Habang pinapanood ko to. Nag flashback lahat ng nangyare saken nung nakatira pa ako sa Tita ko. Parang nkita ko yung sarili ko kay Paye kung pano sampal sampalin ni Mommy toni. Nakakatrauma yung ganyang experience na didisiplinahin ka ng ibang tao at hindi ng magulang mo. Wala kang choice, kasi may utang na loob ka, wla kang ibang gaGAwin kundi tanggapin lahat ng punishment na ibibigay sayo bilang pagdidisiplina daw nila. Pero deep in side sobrang sakit nun. Pero kailangan mong umayon at magppanggap na okay lahat ng ginawa nila dahil nagkamali ka. Wala kang choice kasi may utang na loob ka.
Same nag flash back Lahat Ng sakit na nadarama KO nung sinaktan ako ni mama na kesyo ang Arte ko raw ang Tamad KO raw tas Ito lt to Hahaga napagalitan ako ni mama and after 5 mins nahulog Yung mga hanger siguro Kala nag dadabog ako pero wala akong choise Kasi nasabi konaman na eh na nahulog Lang kase ganto tas wala eh ako Lang to eh kailangan KO daw Kasi Ng pasa duguang sugat but it ok I'm lucky to have my mom😢
Omg, that feeling na sinasaktan yung kapatid mo sa harap mo yet wala sya mgawa dahil she's providing their needs.she's crossing the line na dapat yun kapatid ang gumagawa ng pagdidisiplina. Masyado nya hinahawakan sa leeg mga kasama nya sa bahay.infront of tyronia pa talaga
Kaya nga e, dapat yung kapatid ang mag disiplina dyan e, ganyan talaga nagagawa ng pera pati dignidad mo tatapakan jusko! Lahat ng yan mawawala din kay toni dahil masamang tao sya yan ang katotohanan dahil pera lang naman ang sentro nila dyan hindi pamilya
dun ako naiyak sa part na yun. bakit di nakaya ni papi na panindigan yung pagiging ate nya ki paye . at bakit nya hinyaaang saktan ni toni kapatid nya eh kung pwede namang sya ang mag didisiplina.
I know we had quite different approaches to disciplining someone, especially if that someone was your child. For someone who has experienced abuse in the home, I can assure you that physical discipline is not the answer, yes, magtitino ka, yes tatatak sa kokote mo kung ano ang tama sa mali, kung ano responsibility mo bilang ate, kapatid, kuya, etc. However, it will leave a lingering feeling that "If I'm not good, if I can't do this right, I might get abused again." In short, you will have this trauma, and the cycle will begin. If we can't discipline them with words, we can use physical punishment. Watching this brings back memories of my own experiences with what Paye has gone through. It was a terrible incident, but I never told my parents about it because "ayoko ng gulo" you think it's easy for us to not reveal what happened? To keep it hidden? We want to say it, we want to say it BADLY, but we can't because of prior traumas in your own household
This is NOT love!! This is CONTROL!! I experienced this first hand. All i wanted is someone to understand me and why I did certain things but rather than understanding me, they used this kind of discipline. And to this day, in my 30s, im still trying to recover from the trauma in the past.. 😔😔 soo to everyone who is “praising” bold star toni for her “disciplining”, you all need to think twice. Mali ang gnwa ng bata pero there are more mature ways of handling a situation like this. Kailangan tlga i broadcast and gawin to sa harap ng million na tao. Yung scar sa face nya will be temporary but the image and the damage of what toni has done will be forever. Her soo called “fans” and “followers” need to wake up. Is this what you call a “role model”.. And toni, you keep talking about “respect” but your decisions in life are the complete opposite of that word.
kung makapanakit akala mo talaga, kadugo. grabehan lang. wala lang din kay papi, palibhasa isa ring sunud-sunuran. kapatid ko saktan ng ganyan sa harap ko, makikipag p4t4yan talaga ako. 🤦🏻♀️
Sa mga nagsasabing mali yung disiplina ni toni, tama kayo pero dapat lang yun sa mga anak na may ginawang mali😊 kasi 90's na nanay ganyan sila mag disiplina kaya kung mapapansin nyo sa mga bata noon bihira lang may nabubunyag ng maaga 🎉
I never experienced thiz kind of discipline. Dinidisplina ako pero never akong pinahiya sa harap ng madaming tao tulad nito. Kung didisplinahin man ako, kaming dalawa lang ni mama. Grabe to, goodluck.
As someone who did a lot of mistakes, I've never experienced this kind of discipline from my parents but still I turned out fine. This is brutal and harmful to physical and mental health especially to those people who had a traumatic experience watching this.
Sa mga nagsasabing mali yung disiplina ni toni, tama kayo pero dapat lang yun sa mga anak na may ginawang mali😊 kasi 90's na nanay ganyan sila mag disiplina kaya kung mapapansin nyo sa mga bata noon bihira lang may nabubunyag ng maaga 🎉
@@Jakemanalo453I feel bad for your future kids if this is the way you think. “Discipline” is not an excuse to physically abuse your kids, especially in front of her younger daughter. I understand why Toni is angry, but it seems like she took her anger out on her daughter. This is not teaching her kid to act better, but only teaching her to be more sneaky so her mom doesn’t find out.
This is like more of an abuse rather than discipline this acts shouldn't be tolerated and not normalized because its just leads to traumatic experience.
As someone na lumaki in this kind of environment where we called it “discipline” it triggers my emotional trauma 😢 It’s okay na disiplinahin pero yung parang maging emotional punching bag ka dahil sa frustration ng taong nagmamahal sayo, will always be an abuse for me.
I agree. Nasasaktan ako makita ‘to. I’m also mad kasi Papi is letting Toni treat her younger sister like that. Bilang totoong kapatid, dapat against sya sa ganyan.
Disiplina hndi nman bugbog ang gnawa, mahal nya cPaye kaya nya dinidisiplina the way kung pno nya disiplinahen ang anak nya at ang mga tinuturing nyang anak dahil ayaw nyang mpahamak....
@@jellynbautista-arguson3872 Never naging tama ang disiplina gamit kamay o pag buhat ng kamay na kahit sinuman. mali ang manakit kahit saan anggulo mo tignan.
Hindi mo man lang inisip muna Toni, kung bakit nagsinungaling yang si Paye. Maybe that's the reason why bakit hindi niya agad sinabi sa inyo kasi ganyan kayo magre-react. Also, physical abuse na yang ginawa mo. Una sa lahat, hindi ikaw ang Nanay nyan. Tumatayo ka lang na Nanay nyan pero hindi mo yan legally na anak. Anong rights mo na saktan yan? At sayo Papi, nasikmura mo yon? Manahimik habang yung kapatid mo, kadugo mo, sinasaktan? Wtf. Kapatid ko nga, makita ko lang sinasabihan ng masama ng ibang tao, mas ako pa affected e. Yung ganyang pananakit pa kaya tapos personal ko makikita? Oo, nakatira kayo jan kay Toni, pero magisip ka, kapatid mo yung sinaktan. Pera pera nalang? For the views? Tandaan niyo, hindi aral ang binigay ni Toni kay Paye. Alam mo ano? Trauma! Kasi never maitatama ang mali ng isa pang mali. Hindi dahil nakasanayan ay tama na. Kaya maraming kabataan ang nakakaranas ng depression, dahil sa ganyang klaseng parenting method. Kaya nagsisinungaling ang isang bata, dahil ganyan ang reaction ng magulang or guardian. Kaya nagsisinungaling, dahil hindi maramdaman ni Paye na safe siya na mag sabi sa inyo kasi ganyan kayo mag react. Gosh, super na-trigger ako sa video na to. Ang saya saya ng umpisa ng video, pero sa dulo sobrang nakaka-trigger ang ginawa mo Toni at sa harap pa talaga ng anak mo yan ginawa? Counted na rin yan as child abuse dahil sa harap ng minor mo sinaktan si Paye. Plus yung mga salita na dapat kayong pamilya lang nakaka-alam, pinangalandakan niyo pa? Ano pa mukhang ihaharap ni Paye sa mga kaibigan niya? Hindi mo binubuo si Paye, sinira mo lang siya lalo. After hurting her physically, mentally and emotionally, iga-gaslight mo na hindi mo naman talaga siya gustong saktan at gusto mo lang siya matuto? Maling mali ka Toni! Wtf🤬
Tama ka dyan madam,pwede mag discipline pero yang ganyan nakaka trauma yan , minsan kasi may mga bagay na magsinungaling for good,hindi naman lahat ng pagsisinungaling ay bad, bakit yang c toni perfect wlang tinatago 😂😂 wag nga ako kas lahat ng tao taga pa yan sa bato may tinatagong baho na kahit mamatay cxa d nya kayang sabihin na kahit kanino.bad discipline na nakikita ng buong ong mundo, child abuse hindi sariling anak sobra2 ang pana akit. My god ,at sa kapatid ni paye!! Kung ako kapatid d ko kaya yang tingn ng ganyanin ang kapatid ko d bali d magpansinan habang buhay d ko keri yang tingnan ganyanin kapatid ko never!!!
Tama po kayo dahil di kadugo si paye and especially di rin sya nanay ni paye sa birth cert kaya wala syang karapatan manakit sobrang laking trauma maibibigay sa bata yon
I feel sorry for Paye.... That abuse is never right. That discipline is never fair. I was crying when I saw how Toni release her rage to Paye. Clearly, she has anger issues. All adults there were coward. I also felt sorry for Tyronia.
True, all adults around Toni and Marie are cowards. The guys too do not have the balls to stand for the truth...kkaawa mga bata sa knila, wla man lng good role models.
Lagot ka teh may mang aaway sayo na Solid Mommy Oni fan lol hindi matanggap na mali si toni sa part na ‘to and never magiging form of discipline ang pananakit..
@@LhiannakateTutaanViadotry mo Kaya lumapat un sapak sau n Toni Ewan q Lang Kung masabi mo Yan nssbi mo Yan Kasi d kaw UN nssktan ghad te sinapak sya at sinampal at may pwersa isang sapak Lang sobrang sakip na dagdagan pa Ng sampal e
Halatang naawa siya pero ayaw niya ipakita kasi tatalakan siya nung magkapatid, takot siya. Kawawang paye. Pag nagkataon wala siyang mapapalang tulong kay papi emotionally kasi pag galit si toni galit na rin si papi.
Damn, now I know why people choose to leave them😀 As someone na lumaki sa gulpi at sa bugbog to the point na muntik ko nang ikamatay dahil sa simpleng things, this bullshit is very very wrong. There is a HUGE difference between FEAR and RESPECT. You would never want a child to listen to you out of fear, that's very fucked up. Respect is them wanting to listen to you because they look up to you and they appreciate the treatment you give them and the things you do to them, for them. Fear is when they listen to you out of immense anxiety that they might get hurt/you might hurt them if they don't. Imagine, the abuse that happened to me started when I was around 5, even though a long time has passed, I can still feel the hands on me. Kung pwedeng gawin 'to sa bata, try niyo din ipagawa sa bata 'yan pero towards sa inyong matatanda pag nakagagawa kayo ng pagkakamali sa kanila. Tutal "Pamilya" kayo at "patas" kayo and you do it out of "LOVE". Mahal rin nila kayo ah, sige nga, let them beat the shit out of you adults rin.🤩 Love pala eh!🎉🎉🎉 Grabe pa yung mga comments dito na "Nung bata kami mas malala", "Deserve naman niya", and "Kulang pa nga" shit, kasuka.🤮 Porket y'all had it worse, iniinvalidate niyo na yung mga na trauma because of abuse? Gahdamn, batak na batak talaga sa pang iinvalidate at pang gagaslight ang ibang mga matatanda/laking 90's🤢 You all need therapy, someting's seriously wrong with y'all for thinking that this shit is normal.
Pero nang hindi dahil sa past na malupitang disiplina maganda ang buhay namin ngayon at kaya namin harapin ang lahat kahit gano kabigat not like now gen z konteng epekto lang sakanila kinikitil na ang buhay kase nga masyado silang protektado ng gobyerno sa so called Child abuse kahit na disiplina lang yung sa iba pero no to the point na may pananakit na ikakamatay na ng bata syempre iba na yun sa way ng disiplina sa amin noon sa disiplina ngayon na pinapatay naman na nila tapos sasabihing alibi is disiplina 🤣🤣🤣 magkaiba nga talaga yun
Korek kaya d na rin tama yang ginagawa nya hindi maganda sa mata, pwede mo pagsabihan ng hindi nakikita ng buong mundo sapal at sabunot abot nya kay to i, kala mo naman siya nag luwal hahaha kahit anu pa man d naman yan naka patay para ganyanin ng sobra2, bwesit ang kapatid naka tingin lang sakit sobra kahit naman napariwara ang buhay nila, dapat bang ganyanin sila, dapat dyan pag mamahal kasi kulang sila sa attention ng isang magulang hindi ung ginigipit sila,pinapakita pa sa buing mundo kung panu mo saktan ang bata" which is hindi na bata" para saan for the sake of MONEY 🤑
EXACTLY. The trauma and pain after. This is not love, this is a projection of fear and traumas. Batang 90s rin ako but I never experienced this sa kamay ng mga magulang ko, yet lumaki naman akong may disiplina.
I understand that parents have to do what they have to do in order to set their children straight. but the fact that it’s being posted online for everyone to see, and not to mention her family and daughter seeing and thinking that kind of behavior is normal. Toni thinks that her way of “discipline” is okay because her intention is to protect her kids from experiencing the trauma she experienced, but in reality she’s giving her kids another kind of trauma from the humility and pain they’re experiencing.
Ganyan dapat mag disiplina lalo na ngayon mga bata matitigas ang ulo kaya nabubuntis ng maaga kung tutuusin kulang pa yan sa matitigas ang ulo kami nuon latigo ang pinanghahampas samin
@@Jakemanalo453wow kuya, ur already old enough yet you still say things like that, gen z is different, you can talk them out and calmly discipline them, ur already the reason why ur children is missbehaving and doesnt tell their personal life kasi sasabihin nyo wala lng yon, when it comes to discipline talk them out and ask them what went wrong. batang 90s experienced this things, you have to BE better,DO better. Not repeat the history itself.😊
Abusing isn’t a way of discipline this isn’t also what you call “love” this thing shouldn’t be normalized at all. Speak to her nicely about it, discuss her wrong doings without raising your hand at her because this is wrong, if you want your child to be open to you then ‘wag niyong idala sa ganitong paraan. If you experienced this type of “discipline” when you were a kid then i’m sorry for that but things have changed now, you have to let in sink in to you that things are now different from when you were still a child. ABUSING IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO DISCIPLINE SOMEONE A MINOR OR NOT THIS IS WRONG.
@@zhanekim6942 asan yung abuse daw. Sige magtanong ka pa. Kahit saang anggulo. Abuse yun. Hindi na normal ginagawa nila. E kaya naman pala umalis yung iba kase bayolente naman pala sila. Hindi sa lahat ng bagay madadaan sa pananakit . Mga kagaya mong nagbubulag bulagan pa. Siguro gusto mo maambunan ng iphone no kaya kahit mali na nagbubulagan bulagan ka pa. Kasuya
@@zhanekim6942kung di abuse tawag dun bakit tinakpan nila. Dapat proud sila sa form of discipline nila. Kala ko ba wala ng filter filter dito? Kasi alam nila mali. Pero sabik si Oni manggulpi. The audio itself is disgusting enough. Di ko kinaya. Wag nalang mag anak kung ganyan lang din gagawin mo.
Yes, napakagandang dsisyon yon, venus and Elon are parents Alam nila ang makakabuti sa mga anak nila, later on ganun din gagawin ni Toni sa mga anak nila at gulo Lang ang mangyayari..
39:50 Baby Girl Tyronia. Hindi masamang mag keep ng secrets ng iba. Ikaw ang pinagkatiwalaan ng isang tao, ikeep mo yon, masama man o hindi. just a piece of advice.
People who think na ang equal ng pagmamahal is physical hurt has to think twice. For me it was below the belt. Alam kong mahal ni Oni si Paye but physically hurting her? I don’t think that’s right. Okay kung sampal eh that’s fine but to continuously hurt her that’s different. Then people here in socmed will say na normal lang na ganito ganyan na saktan para matuto pero malaki na si Paye she’s fucking 18 yrs old sampal na lang dapat ang ginawa sa kanya. My gad! Lastly, what Mari said about Tyronia being disiplinado? I don’t think so. The way Tyronia talked to Paye sometimes pataas ng boses and pataray sa mas nakakatanda sa kanya (please don’t tell me na okay lang kasi magkapatid na turing naman) is sooo disrespectful. Kung si Toni pinagmamalaki niya na never siyang sumagot sa nakakatanda then how so si Tyronja di nagagawa? Wag rin magsalita ng tapos kasi ugali ni Tyronia lumalabas na din.
This is a fact, ok lang na mag disiplina, I know na "traditional" yung pag papalo etc. Pero parang ako yung nasaktan for paye. And yung kay Tyronia na nakita niya na ginawa yon that was TOO MUCH. Pati yung ugali ni tyronia napapansin ko na kung ano ano na nalalaman niya, she's growing up pero too much na, nag iiba ugali niya.
Kung nanay ka at malalaman mong may kasamanv natulog sa kwarto ang anak mo sa loob ng bahay niyo, kahit pa sabihin mong babae yun pero tomboy what will you do? Kaka 18 palang ni paye, and yan ang issue ni paye nuon is may mga nakaka live in siya, dinala na niya sa bahay nila toni, she disrespected not only toni but pati yung sarili niya, hindi na tayo mga bata para sabihin na walang ngyari pero wala tayong alam dahil naka lock ang kwarto, mali ni papi na pinabayaan dahil parang wala lang sa kanya, dahil parang barkada lang siguro sa isip niya, pero nanay ang role si toni walang cctv sa kwarto so di nila alam kung nag sasabi ba si paye ng totoo, kung ako yan ganyan din gagawin ko, nakatura ka sabahay ko ako nag papakain sayo at tumatago bilang nanay mo so masakit pero need ni paye yan, kami ng jowa ko inabot ng 5 years na sa sala lang kami natutulog ngbtanghali, now pwede na kami mag tabi sa kwarto and i am not locking my door out of respect sa magulang dahil gusto kong patunayan na tama yung pag katiwalaan nila ako na hindi ko bababuyin ang bahay namin doing things with my bf, earn your parents respect na mag patulog sa kwarto mo , ivang point of view but same situation, respeto ang kailangan matutunan ni paye unang una sa sarili niya to have respect not only sa mga tao sa paligid niya pero sa mga bagay na meron siya including the house na pinatitirhan niya, pwede na niyang gawin lahat ng gusto kung may sarili na siyang bahay period.
@@mytruefeelingsmylife5910 it is a problem kay Paye but what i’m tryna say is the way they disciplined her sampal okay na hindi bugbog. Ikaw kaya mong bugbugin anak mo? Kung kaya mo just know the consequences and effect nun sa kanya. Kung kinocompare mo yung nakaraan sa ngayon well I don’t think you are adaptive sa environment mo.
@@mytruefeelingsmylife5910 so dapat ba bugbugin nalang siya? Ang sabi lang nung nagcomment dito, sampal nalang sana at okay na sana yun pero bugbog yung ginawa. knowing na bata pa yan. Parang anong klaseng nanay ang mangbogbog sa "anak"
I agree. Nakita mo yung vlog ni tito vince. Sabi pa niya tinarayan na niya si paye kase may reason na daw. Parang sa 11 years old ganun na magsalita. I dont think tyornia is ganun kabait talaga. sana lang pag may nagawa din si tryronia na malala in the future bugbugin din niya lolz
Dear Paye, I know the feeling of being picked. You think no one will understand you. So a person like you build an attitude that is reflected by what you experienced. You sometimes keep things in yourself because of the past trauma. A person accustomed to violence becomes a rebel. Wag ka maging padalosdalos sa mga desisyon. Mahirap maging failure sa mga taong nagpapakain sayo. Palagi ka lang makinig at kung magkamali tandaan mobg wlaang perpekto sa mundo. Madi- disappointment sila pag di mo nasuklian ng maganda yung pinaghirapan nila para sayo. Kaya tiis lang at wag na wag ka na ulit gagawa ng ikakasira ng tiwala nila. Sana maging matatag ka at balang araw maging successful. God bless. xx
kaya lang po nag smile si tyronia dahil nasabi ni tony na idol ni tyronia si paye the way manamit si paye kaya parang nag smile lang sya, ndi naman dahil happy sya na pinasasabihan si paye.
THIS VIDEO TRIGGERS OUR CHILDHOOD TRAUMA. Hindi porket nakalakihan mo ang pisikal na pagdisiplina eh yun na ang tama. NEVER EVER ROMANTICIZE VIOLENCE kahit pa sa loob ng pamilya. Ang mahirap pa sa nangyari is may present na menor de edad (Tyronia) so this may actually be categorized as CHILD ABUSE. 😓😓😓
true huhu idk kung bakit sinasabi ng mga comments na “normal lang yan para mag tanda” GIRL DO NOT NORMALIZE THIS KIND OF ACT SOBRANG MALI +++ RESPETO RIN SA SA ATE kahit na sabihin na sobrang close mo yung ate nyan, despite of the closeness ang respeto nandoon parin dapat
Hindi rin 😂😂hindi naman Dapat ganyan na makikita sa buong mundo kung paano mo binugbog ang bata😂😂 which is hindi naman na bata, pwede mag decipline pero ung ganito nakaka trauma, iba noon kay sa ngaun, dati nga sinilid pa ako sa sako at binitin😂😂 kayo naranasan nyo rin ba😂😂
@@Stephanie-ti3nqte ang hndi normal ung araw araw syang nakakatikim ng bugbog na konting pag kakamali lang eh na mimisikal na,..naipon ung mga ginawa nyang mali cnbi nman diba? hndi na nadadaan sa pakiusap,..kea ganyan ung ginawang pag didisiplina,..naranasan ko din madisiplina ng ganyan. ngayon pag napag kukwentuhan nmin natatawa nlang kmi kc atlist ngayon masasabi nming na disiplina kmi ng tama,..cgro nsa tao nlang yan kung dadamdamin nla at hndi cla matututo o tatanggapin nla yang sakit na yan at madadala nila sa isip nla na nangyari yan sa kanila kc mahal cla ng pamilya nila at nagkamili cla kea diniplina cla ng gayan,..
Biglang bumalik ung trauma ko dito, i've experienced this kind of disciplinary action im a millenial and i have 2 kids my 1st born is already 14, kahit pa cguro gano katigas ulo ng anak ko i will never do this, though yes it is indeed effective before, pero sa panahon ngayon u need to understand the new generation which is gen z so that u know how to handle them and discipline them in a way na maiintindihan din nila. Uulitin ko im a millenial and until now ung trauma na epekto ng pangdidisplina sakin before dala ko hanggang ngayon. Yun lang.
Dapat ibalik ang ganyan pagdidisiplina!!! Sa panahon naten ngyon maraming kabataan ang mas kailangan na ganyan!!! Grabe super ako naiyak!!! Nakakamiss talaga yung mga old times na!! Nararansan namin non!!! Na halos wala na sa mundo naten ang gumawa saten, 😢 thankyou mami oni!!! Super worth yung nuod ko palagi sa content nyo na to!! Ito ang pinaka the best TH-cam content na napanuod ko!!!
i don't think hurting them nor abusing them could make them more discipline e kung iisip it would cause truama talaga, kaya nga may mga teenager jan na depressed dahil sa abusive parents nila e tas yung iba na mismong bahay nila hindi nila mismo matratong safe place o home dahil don nila nakuha ang truama nila yung iba nga nag lalayas pa e
Top Bible Verses about Discipline: Hebrews 12:11 - For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Proverbs 12:1 - Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid. Proverbs 13:24 - Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him. 1 Corinthians 9:27 - But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified. Revelation 3:19 - Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Proverbs 3:11-12 - My son, do not despise the Lord's discipline or be weary of his reproof, for the Lord reproves him whom he loves, as a father the son in whom he delights. Proverbs 29:17 - Discipline your son, and he will give you rest; he will give delight to your heart. Ephesians 6:4 - Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.
my part naman kasi na deserve ni paye di mo ksi alam ano ang totoong ng yare sa totoong buhay and marami din si mommy oni pinagdaanan kaya wag nyong sabihin na mali yung ginawa ni mommy oni naranasan ko na din yan maraming tao na naranasan yan mag babago din si paye di nyo lng alam
Story time lang I grew up living in a family na napaka strikto na kung saan laging nandyan yung Papa ko na naka bantay naka bantay rin naman si Mama.Lalo lang akong naiyak nung narinig ko nung nagsisimula nang tumaas yung boses ni Mommy Oni sa pag didisiplina kay Ate Paye kase naririnig ko yung mga pag iyak ni Ate,sa puntong yon biglang sumakit dibdib ko kase yun nga nakikita ko yung pag didisiplina ni Mommy Oni na katulad na katulad sa pag didisiplina ni Papa mas lalo kong na intindihan na Di porket sinaktan nang magulang ibig sabihin di kana mahal mas naipapakita lang nang mga magulang kung gaano ka nila ka mahal at kung gaano ka ka importante sa kanila na kung saan isang way nang magulang na pagpapakita nang emosyon kung gaano ka talagang ka importante sa kanila…Mas na realize ko na lahat nang ginagawa nang magulang ay paraan lamang upang matuto at mag tanda kase all they want is to be a good parent and also for our safety.. Always know your WORTH
True shmpre need kumita kahit mapahiya ung bata . Pera pera png nmn yan Lumaki na talaga ulo nng idol niyo Chaka wag niyo compare ung panahon niyo sa ngayon. Gawin niya nga sa anak niya yan maniniwala talaga ako ganyan siya mag disiplina nng "anak" niya
I agree and super relate ako, I grew up also na strict ang papa ko samin. To the point na napapalo at nasasaktan kami. Nung bata pa ko super kong dinamdam yung every time na mapapalo or masasaktan ako ni papa. Not until now na nakagraduate ako and so far I realized na kung hindi ako hinigpitan ng parents ko baka napariwara na buhay ko lalo na pasaway ako nung kabataan ko. Ngayon ko naaappreciate yung pagiging strict nila sakin/samin dahil gusto lang nilang mapabuti kalagayan namin. Maraming tao sa paligid ko na ang tingin nila sa tatay ko "Masamang Ama" dahil sa pagiging strict nila at pamamalo nila samin. Pero for me ang tatay ko ang "PINAKA MAPAGMAHAL, MAAALALAHANIN AT RESPONSABLENG TAO" sa buhay ko bukod sa mama at lola ko. Hinding hindi ko ikakahiya na lumaki ako na strikto ang tatay ko dahil ganon nila pinaramdam ang pagmamahal nila sa amin.
Lahat ng Parents , maiintindihan ang ginawa ni toni. iba iba ang way ng pagdidisiplina , iba na panahon ngayon kesa dati ou tama kayo, pero iba din ang henerasyon ngayon sa dati. 😊
True. Kami nakaranas kami ng ganyan pero sa pinakamalala na ginawa namin, and na realize ko na minsan kelangan talaga para magtanda. Di ko sinasabeng e tolerate yung physical abuse pero minsan dyan din tayo natuto lalo na kapag magulang na dumisiplina. Matatakot ka ng gawin kung ano man ang mali kase alam mong mapapagalitan ka ulet. Siguro kung araw araw kang sinasaktan yun ang di na tama.
Oh my g. Her hurting Paye like that breaks my heart. Grabe Papi was just sitting there while her sister was getting beaten up. That is not how you discipline someone. I cannot believe people around her are tolerating that kind of abuse. Toni, you were so worried that Paye could have been hurt by the guy in the elevator but didn’t you realize that you were the one who actually hurt her???
grabe legit na reality show tong episode na to, mixed emotions naramdaman ko pero mostly, naramdaman ko yung sense of naiintindihan ko tong situation-not in a way na i support physical punishment like this but naintindihan in a way na ganto ako nadisiplina dati and until now parang fresh parin sya hnggg
Nakakaiyak sobrang genuine ng pagmamahal ni mommy toni kay tyronia at paye, gagawin lahat ni mommy toni para lang maging maayos pamilya niya!!! Iloveyou mommy❤
Yung mga nagsasabi na tama yung ganitong ‘disiplina’ magbasa nga kayo ng mga studies. Kumausap ng psychologists/psychiatrists. Kawawa yung mga batang lumalaki diyan. Jusko. Buti umalis yung tatay ni Tyronia. What is childhood trauma.
Yung pinagdaanan ni papi at paye hindi bugbog kailangan. Therapist po. Maski yung kay Toni at Mari. Mas healthy if you heal from trauma. Di yan tinatanggal sa bugbog.
When paye said "Ang sakit ng puso ko" 💔 Yes masakit yung sinasaktan ka physical pero mas masakit talaga yung na fefeel mo sa isip at puso , nakakadurog panuodin ang ep nato subra
Kaya nga.. ma angas na yung PAYE.. KALOKA. pero hndi ko xa kiLaLa ng personaL... pero sana mag matured na xa.. mnsan pag tirikntirik ng mata nya nakakairita ...hahaha
Yes, ganto kayo magdisiplina mommy Oni. Sana hindi na lang pinost kahit may MORAL LESSON, may mali ang both side. Sana soon mas better pa ang PAGDIDISIPLINA na mangyayari, wala akong ija-judge sa kanila kase WALA NAMAN AKO SA MGA LUGAR NILA. At least, nakapag-usap sila nang maayos sa huli, for ate Paye please wag na po mauulit ang ganitong mga pangyayari. And for Mommy Oni, hope na madisiplina nang maayos-ayos kahit papaano 'yung mga bata. 'Yun lang po, love you Mommy Oni and Toro Family! (Btw I'm not judging them kasi may mga tita at tito ako na ganto magdidisiplina and ayun healthy naman family nila, basta wag kakalimutan 'yung mahinahon na usap after ng nangyari. Communication is the KEY pa rin. 🤍)
Paano naging healthy ang physical abuse? Stop justifying Toni’s behavior. Kadiri lalo na nandun yung anak niya habang may binubugbog siya?? You guys are stupid asf.
Iba tlga mag disiplina ang Isang ina lalo. N pag babae ang anak mo ... Sobrang naiyak at n touch aq dun sa sinasampal ni mommy oni c paye n anu role mo Dito ung anak kita anak kita ... Solid ang panilyang ito ... ❤️❤️❤️ tlgang npakatotoo nio tlga solid kau toro family .... Kya solid supporter aq ng toro family simulat simula Hanggang ngaun grave mhal n mhal ko kau ...lht TORo Family ❤❤❤❤
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diko mabilang ilang beses tumulo luha ko 😢 pero gusto ko yung disiplinang yan dahil yan ang naging tanda ng pag babago ng isang tao 😊 salute toro family 😘😘😘
This show how TONI is very protective on her family and i praised her for that this woman shows what love she has for her family ❤ and she will do anything for her family ang galing
This is not the way to disicipline a teenager moreso someone who just stepped in to her 18s. Yes, I get that they just want to protect her, but as someone who had also experienced this. I can say for a fact that it gave me trauma to the point that whenever someone raised their hands, I flinched. And the fact that this is being posted online and people around them just watched as Paye was being so-called “bugbog” because she didn’t want to leave is heartbreaking. Hugs to you Paye!
yeah.. pinalaki kami sa disiplina pero hindi sa ganitong paraang ng pagkontrol. Nakakalungkot lang na kailangang magkaroon pa ng eksenang ganito for a reality show whereas pwede naman ayusin na lang sa usapan, nagmumukha tuloy na okay lang itolerate pa sa physical abuse by any means.
Kahit sariling kapatid pinapabayaan lang na saktan ng iba na sabi daw mahal hahaha 🤣🤣 mahal mo ang pera mo🤣🤣 sampalin mo din kaya ang anak mo, tsaka kung mahal mo yan d mo pa trabahoin ,pag aaralin mo yan🤣🤣 no. 1 anung role mo dito paye! Ate no.2 pagtabaho sa FAB🤣🤣🤣 diba yan lang ang alam nya sa family na yan ang magtrabaho 🤣🤣🤣🤣 alam mo un napakinabangn nyo din ang tao kala mo naman si toni perfect 🤣🤣🤣
It’s been 10 months since napanood ko to, pero ngayon lang ako mag cocoment tutal puro pang aano lang naman kinicoment nyo… That is called discipline bkt? Kase ganyan ako dinidisiplina ng mother ko, oo alam ko na may mag cocoment na Di yan tama, that’s not discipline, for me kase Di naman trip lang ng magulang na saktan ka eh, yan ay para tumino ka, kung Di kayo nagaganyan ng magulang nyo ibig sabihin hindi kayo mahal,hindi ko sinasabi na hindi talaga kayo “mahal” ang point ko dito is Di kayo matututo or titino kapag Di kayo nasaktan or what… Sa mga Di napapalo dyan Di nyo kase alam kung pano ang disiplina… Ang alam nyo lang is pinag sasabihan lang kayo or what, pero para sakin that is called discipline, wala akong intension na dapat saktan kayo, for me kase that is what I believe okay?? 😅😊Chaka Sana Di nalang kayo nanood kung puro pang babash lang din icocoment nyo😊
@@digitaldemos8298 harassment?,.. how? nakita mo ba pano sya sinaktan? oo my tunog pero nakita mo ba? diba nka black screen ung scene na un?,..binugbog ba sya? saan? pano?,..
@@sey9230 d nga nila pinakita pero sinabi nman nila na bnugbog at pinarinig pa...bkt d mo ba narinig? Harassment pa rin un at d dpat tntolerate mga gnung gawain.
Many people talk about Toni harming/hitting Paye but did not see Toni's face at the end, crying with Paye as shown that she also did not want to harm her. It's truly saddening to see this but we cannot also blame a "mother" or mother figure to do anything to make her child see what she did wrong and what she can do to change that. Not a good thing to see but also a heartfelt conversation between this family.
😢napaiyak ako pero npakathankful ng toro family kay mommi oni😢❤❤❤tama si momi oni nagawa nia yan based sa mga experience niA.. gusto nia lang n safe and secure mga anak nia..😢❤moreblessings torofam❤
May maling Ginawa si paye. Pero wala kayong karapatan saktan yung tao. Discipline is all about talking and communication. Not hurting them. That’s abuse.
Mag kakaiba ang disiplina ng mga magulang para magtanda ang anak nila, Mag kakaiba tayo ng naranasan, Kung hindi na maiidaan sa pakiusap yan siguro naman kailangan na ng disiplina para matuto yung bata.
As a young mother, physical discipline never works on kids, and it should stop. Sure, sinasabi nila, it works on a few kids pero ang totoo takot na silang masaktan ulit. God bless them, and hopefully, they have good intentions for showing this kind of video not just for their own fame. God bless everyone 🙏 and please stop hurting your so called family just to prove you love and care for them, it's WRONG! There's so much other way.
And to all who thinks this was a negative thing - Mommy Oni does the best she can, and hindi nyo alam about the other things that Paye might have already done, before this dicipline. Umiyak si Mommy Oni, nakita nyo ang Mom guilt nya. She was not cold or turned down Paye’s hug or sincere apology. Seriouly, MAKE SURE YOUR PERFECT BEFORE YOU JUDGE OTHER MOMS!!
Inulit ulit kong pinanood to grabe mami oni nung pinapili mo c paye na palalayasin o bubuggin at pgsagot ni paye na bugbugin nlng oh it melt my heart iyak ako iyak kudos sayo mami oni very proud sa pagdidisiplina mo sa mga anak mo❤❤
Laglag luha ko sa part na yumakap na sya kay Mommy Oni 😭 Nafeel ko yung love ni Mommy kay Paye 😭😭😭 Masama man o mali tignan para sa iba pero gets ko point ni Mommy Oni sa pagdidisiplina at yung walang lihiman sa pamilya kasi nga THE ORIGINALS 💙💙💙 Totoo lang dapat lahat ✌️☺️
@@nyeecervera2959ay tang ina kapag kapatid ko yan binugbog bahala na kaya ko naman mag trabaho ng marangal wag lang ung ganyanin na makikita ng buong Mundo,
Grabi paulit-ulit ko pinanunuod to , Naaalala ko talaga lolo ko kay mommy toni pag tapos kami mapalo ng lolo ko ang lambing nya alukin kami kumain tapos hahayaan kami maglaro sa labas. Miss ko na lolo ko 😢 4monts pa lang syang wala.
Belated happy bday Paye! s Sana mag aral ka, tapusin mo pag aaral mo para hindi ka man maging vlogger in the future may weapon ka para maka stand ka on your own. Bata ka pa Paye dami pang pwedeng mangyari, hindi habang buhay kasama mo sila at bubuhayin ka nila.
Grabe parang tau-tauhan naman kayo dyan. Bibigyan ka ng magandang buhay pero sasaktan ka. Kaya siguro maraming umaalis kasi may pagka-control freak yung environment nyo. Ang tunay na pagmamahal at pagmamalasakit hindi ka sasaktan, magkamali ka man hindi sila dadagdag sa sakit na mararamdaman mo kundi dadamayan ka at papaalalahanan pagdating ng pagkakataong iyon. Mas ok nang maghirap ka na wala sa puder ng mga ganito kasamahan sa bahay kaysa mabuhay ka na lagi kang kakaba-kaba. Pangmamaltrato ito eh palibhasa hindi kadugo. Madali lang magsabi na "pamilya". Dahil nabigyan ka ng engrandeng debut at mga regalo parang binili na yung whole being mo. Mabilis maging kamay na bato. Hindi tama ito. Sana matuto ka rin mami toni. Kapag wala na ang kasikatan at pera maraming aalis sayo toni dahil may hinanakit sila sayo. For sure kung nasa sitwasyon ni paye si tyronia paniguradong hindi ganyan ang magiging asta mo. Bakit? Kasi anak mo. Don't try dressing your being of a control freak sa "Pagmamahal" na tinutukoy mo. Hindi ho ako basher. Ipopoint ko lang ang mali
hindi ko maintindihan yung mga taong gino-glorify yung pananakit ni toni dito. Kesyo, "pag di-displina" "way of showing love" etc. When in fact kaya mo namang idisplina ang bata sa pamamagitan ng pagkausap ng masinsinan. Tsaka kung ano ang nakikita ni paye ginagaya lang nya. Hayyy, pilipinas nga naman.
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The so-called discipline they did is just a projection of what they've experienced before. This shouldn't be glorified. This type of mindset or way of thinking causes a lot of emotional trauma to some who experienced this. THIS SHOULDN'T BE NORMALIZED. THIS IS NOT LOVE, there are a lot of ways to lecture your children and you don't need to harm them. :) psych student here
akala ko ako lang nakaisip nyan since lahat ng nasa comment section is pinupuri sina mommy oni huhu pero ewan grabe talaga yung sinampal pa
@@chuuyanism Right? It's really saddening that this way of thinking still exists... There are still a lot of people that are doing and glorifying this so-called disciplinary method. Hindi dahil normal o ginagawa to dati ay ibigsabihin tama na, hindi porque nasanay tayo ay dapat nang i-normalize.
I totally agree with what you've said, It was actually super triggering as I kind of experienced the same thing but not with physical abuse but verbal abuse. The comments are glorifying the said discipline bc most of them are fans and seeing positive comments abt it affects the way of thinking of others, that's why I think they view it positively and praising it also they ways of discipline before (unang panahon whatsoever from the old generation) is so diff from now, there are alot of ways to discipline. It is shocking and saddening.
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This is true . I can't imagine na maranasan ng anak ko yung naranasan ko . Nakaka trauma to as in 😓
Wait, I don't understand. Oni gets upset that a foreigner guy physically assaulted Paye and they decided not to tell her. And Oni said she should have told her about it because she wanted to protect her. Because she is still a minor that time.
Minutes later, she started to physically and verbally assault Paye 😨 Because of the reason that she slept with a lesbian friend when she is not a minor anymore. Didnt she just contradicted herself and just do exactly the same of what the foreigner guy did? Doesn't seemed to me that you are protecting Paye by assaulting her. I'm not saying that Paye is right but she is of legal age anyway.
Tapos final resort daw nya yung manakit? E pucha parang sa simula palang di mo naman din dinaan sa masinsinang usapan. Sasabihin mong gagawin mo yung way ng pagdidisiplina ng lola mo sayo as a last resort. Obviously it didn't seemed to work out well with you also how your grandma raised. Halatang di ka naman din nadisiplina.
Naglandi ka din nung kabataan mo. Maaga nabuntis. Tingin mo ba naging effective yung pagdidisiplina ng lola mo sayo? Tas gagawin mo yang pambubugbog in front of Tyronia? Sa tingin mo magandang example din yang binibigay mo sa anak mo na normal yung manakit physically and verbally because mahal mo?
Grabeng panggagaslight yan. Ginagawa mo lang yun dahil mahal mo? I don't buy that bullshit.
Sabihin na natin ginawa mo yung pagpapasexy para mataguyod mo yung family mo. Now that you reached your goal obviously mayaman ka na, may career na sa showbiz. Pwede mo na nga itigil paghuhubad mo. May business na din. And yet you still keep on stripping off your clothes just for money and clout.
Ginagawa mo yan not because you love her. Ginagawa mo yan because you want to intimidate and dominate. Kung tutuusin nga Toni ikaw ang dapat disiplinahin. Despite reaching your goal parang wala ka pa din naman natutunan. What if disiplinahin ka din nila dahil wala ka ding kontrol sa sarili mo. Dahil mali din ang pinaggagagawa mo?
If there is someone who is actually not a good role model for Tyronia, it's you Oni. Shame on you and your blind followers.
Maybe Paye might have taught Tyronia to hide secrets. But you Oni, teaching Tyronia that physical and verbal abuse is OK. You are teaching her that stripping naked is good. You are much much much of a bad role model Toni. And you deserve pambubugbog also since that is your way of disciplining.
Kaloka. Nagsisimula palang tong The Originals pero parang matatapos na.
Now I was thinking kung binubugbog din ni Oni si Tyronia. Naiintindihan ko din kung bat sya natatakot magsumbong sayo. Pag sinabi ba nya sayo, di mo ba sya bubugbugin?
This is exactly what i want to say too💔
Facts!!!!!! she’s sick
Ayaw saktan ng iba pero sya na lang ang nanakit😅
For sure hindi nya bubug bugin tyronia anak nya eh , si paye kasi hindi nya ka ano ano , lalokohan na mahal mo sasaktan mo ?? yung ate nma pinbyaan lng na bugbugin kptid nya mga sunod sunuran walang sariling isip.
@@kaico9875 kanino anak yung paye?
THAT KIND OF GASLIGHTING IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL
fr
facts💀
Remember, people. We are NOT in the 1990's anymore. Physical abuse is NOT discipline. If this is how you discipline your children, then don't be surprised if one day, lumayo sila sayo. 😊 It's okay to discipline your child. But be careful on how you do it. A trauma isn't a joke and it will never be. You can make your kids realize their fault without causing them physical pain. ❤
Agree
So bkt nung nasa 1990s ok lang, bakit rn hindi? Hahaha kaya nga mas matitino yung matatanda ngayon kasi bata pa lang nagtanda na. Lol.
@@t.torishuyo01 Hindi yan flex na kadtong bata pa kayo ang tanda na ng mindset nyo. If ana ang mindset nyo nung bata pa kayo, wala kayong childhood at ang inner child nyo ay broken. Just because okay ang Child abuse sa 1990's doesn't mean na kailangan e implement yan sa ngayon. Kung ganyan ka sa mga anak mo if meron kang anak mayroon dako na probability na pagka tanda ng mga anak mo hindi na sila gusto makipag communicate sayo kasi na trauma sila sa mga ginawa mo na tinawag mo ng "discipline".
Haha actually mas masaya nga childhood ko kasi alam ko yung mga dapat gawin at tama at mali KASI NATUTO AKO. Nasa sa'yo yan kung paano mo hahaluan ng paliwanag kung bakit mo ginawa yon. Kung papaluin mo lang nang ganon ganon ay talagang hindi 'yan maiintindihan at magtatanim ng sama ng loob. Pero kapag naintindihan nila bakit mo yun kinailangang gawin, mas malaki yung possibility na mas maging maayos silang tao. Duh!
@@t.torishuyo01💀
I remembered being treated like that but no one hugged me in the end. It felt like I was a worthless piece of trash, the memory is still vivid, I can almost feel it like it only happened yesterday. I am not a teenager anymore but the trauma is still here, things like that will always be painful to remember.
Please let Paye continue her studies. That's the only thing she can have in the future when everybody and everything has gone.
i agreee ..sana pag aralin sia talaga Ulit...
True.
Gusto naman nila siguro kaso ayaw ni paye..
Gusto nila Ata pag aralin pero parang si Paye Yung ayaw
Di pala nag-aaral si paye?
Watching this vlog made me realize how lucky the rest who left this group is. Imagine the kind of relief Aviona, Unicorn, Nanay, Tatay, Mikay, Tatan felt after leaving.
Parang control freak...
Fr.. halos walang nag stay sakanila
d parin sila matatahimik knowong na may nangyayaring ganito sa mga dating kasmaa nila
Sa true lang. Parang wlang pagsisi sa pag alis nila noh.
True
Scrolling through the comment section made me shiver, praising oni for her so called discipline.
Hoy fare nanay mo yan ah
this so-called discipline shouldn’t be tolerated. i feel so sorry for paye, no one deserves to be abused and experience traumatic events like that. why lay hands on her when you could just talk and discipline her in a nice way?
Di na lahat ng tao nadadala ng salita🥰🥰
@@sheloangielouzurita2007 at di rin maitatama ang mali ng isa pang pagkakamali which is yung pananakit ni toni 🥰🥰
@@sheloangielouzurita2007at sa tingin mo madadala siya kung bubug-bugin? Siya nga eh dinisiplina din si oni ng Lola niya ng ganito look what she become
EH KUNG IKAW KAYA BUGBUGIN SAMPAL SAMPALIN? OKAY LANG BA? NAMO KAKAPIKON KA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
hindi naman lahat ng tao nadadala sa disiplina eh
Toni's words reflect of how she act and what she is
But that doesn’t really give her the excuse to physically hurt her like that
@@Asterr2008She made her pick it was her choice tony had the perm to not hurt her or hurt her . I guess
yes true but not to move the blame Paye also did her fair share of misdeeds@@Asterr2008 tho not deserving of a beating we are not in the 1900s to still be abusing children but to put myself in toni's place I might have acted on emotion and impulse but thats wrong
let's just report the vid. bc some of the viewers are normalizing the abuse and glorifying it, they will probably copy the act of "disclipline"
@mariaraquelalegre7553 but if she chose to leave it will hurt her too cuz she wants to live a good life and ride her car that they gave to her😅
This is the kind of parenting or so called discipline that I got from my family and this is so freaking traumatizing.
I too experienced the same thing. The way I was being disciplined then really traumatized me. I thought I had healed, but watching her hit Paye numerous times brought all the painful memories from my childhood. Naiintindihan ko bakit kelangan gawin, but personally iba naging effect nung actions ng ate ko nun towards me. I built a wall between us & now that I’m old enough, no matter how hard she tries to reach out at maging close kami, hindi ko maibigay. Siguro that’s my way of protecting myself from her kasi I always have this thought na bubugbugin nya pa din ako whenever she gets upset or disappointed sa akin. She’s a good sister, a generous one like Toni. But sometimes, our actions regardless of our intention, can leave a painful mark & I hope hindi na maulet. I don’t hate the person, I hate the action.
You're right i experience the same thing. It's not effective, I'm just traumatized. My father used to "discipline" me by hitting me with belt, hangers, stick, slippers, cursing at me, shouting at me at a young age and i swear i grow up hating him and i always wanted revenge and i sometimes wish that he wasn't my father.
haha buti pa nga siya kinomfort
grabe yung gaslighting sa ending ah 😭 controlling, manipulative, mistrustful, at napaka-hypocritical.
😂😂😂
Legit
True😂
“Bakit naman anak?” 😭😭
Seeing these comments praising that kind of discipline is giving me goosebumps. The problem could've been discussed properly without being aggressive. The foul words, slaps and sound of being hit is triggering. Especially ginawa pa 'yon sa harap ng bata, tyronia witnessed her mom hitting paye is traumatizing for her tbh not only for paye, you can see it in her face. That's not a good example. So scary. That's literally physical violence/abuse she's showing to others (cuz pinost pa), and to her daughters. So funny that people think na that's how discipline should be. If that's how you discipline your kid (ang toxic mo), don't be surprised na kapag lumaki 'yan, iiwan ka at hahayaan ka nang mag-isa. The trauma is so hard to heal
true:(
Tomo @exclusivesweetmint mga uto uto kamo yan mga fans nya for iphone 14 ung toni galit doon sa paye kasi sa to,boy eh tomboy bka sya lng gusto kay paye 😂😂😂😂😂
Kaya nga po reality show e🤣
true..
Korek hindi takga maganda pakingan, cguro sa jba ay okey lang pero kung ikaw kapatid hapi kaya mo lang panuurin yan na ginaganyan ang kapatid mo sa akin never!! Sabagay sa akin lang naman iwan ko sa iba!! Takot ata si hapi na mawalan ng susutento ni toni iwan ko yan its not about love its about control!!!
as someone who grew up in a toxic household and later developed different traumas, I feel sorry for Paye. she doesn't deserve mommy Oni's physical abuse. the situation could be resolved through serious talks or discipline without causing harm to Paye. witnessing the violence could also cause trauma, especially for Tyronia who was present throughout. that's why I don't understand people who still praise Toni Fowler for her violence towards Paye. I don't see any care or love in the hurtful words she said and the physical abuse she inflicted on Paye. it's simply about controlling her. f*ck those cars and luxury. I'd rather work hard to support myself than stay in that toxic Toro household, enduring abuse and developing traumas over time.
I totally agree 100%!!!
Yes ang daming tao may menor de edad pa. I mean bakit kailangang infront of those people. And infront of camera? in front of her biological child? Bakit walang ni isa ang nagcorrect? Sa ganong klaseng discipline. Hindi naman sya adopted child. What if noh sya ang totong nanay?
I guess magegets ko pa na ginagawa niya yun but ang totoong nanay hindu yan papakita sa social media.hindi yan ang typical na pagdedesiplina ng totoong nanay.
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Ganyan dapat mag disiplina lalo na ngayon mga bata matitigas ang ulo kaya nabubuntis ng maaga kung tutuusin kulang pa yan sa matitigas ang ulo kami nuon latigo ang pinanghahampas samin
hindi physical abuse yan .kung abuse sana paulit ulit na ginagawa ni toni . hindi eh. ilang beses na nag papasensya at iniintindi . pero ganun parin . and in comes in the worst kung saan muntikan na napahamak ang mas bata sa kanya .
This is not love. This is controlling.
So sad para sa mga taong nakakaranas ng ganito at sa mga by standers. They are blinded by so-called love or love illusion to see these abusive acts as a form of love and care. And also, so sad for Toni na umabot sya sa point na need nya na magcontrol ng tao para lang hindi sya iwan, dahil takot syang maiwan.
Paye did wrong. Walang question dun. Pero yung didisiplinahin sya ni Toni sa pananakit dahil hindi nagsumbong si Paye nung sinaktan sya ng foreigner? Parang may mali diba?
Toni said, "Magsalita ka kapag may mali na! Kapag alam mong mali na yung ginagawa sayo ng tao. Isumbong mo sa amin."
How? Kung mismong yung mga taong gusto nyang takbuhan yung mismong gumagawa sa kanya ng mali.
The pain in Papi's eyes made me tear up. Yung feeling na gusto mong ipagtanggol yung taong mahal mo pero mas pinili mong manahimik kasi alam mo kung saan ka pupulutin at kung anong mawawala sayo kapag umalma ka? Yung mas pinili mong umayon kung kanino ka nagbebenefit? Darling, that is not love.
After all the sampal, sabunot, and everything.. still, hindi nakuha ni Toni yung gusto n'ya. Hearing what Paye said? "Mas gusto ko nalang magpabugbog kesa mawalan ako ng car. Ang sarap ng buhay ko dito. Ayokong mamatay na mahirap." Toni didn't gain respect, care, and love. Kahit anong control mo sa ganitong tao, aalis yan sayo kapag wala ka nang maibibigay sa kanila.
Toni wants to give love and to be loved, but she needs to learn what is the true meaning of love first. She needs to heal herself first before healing someone. A doctor can't go to hospital if he/she is also sick.
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totally agree 💯
That right like I finally see who they really are😢
Well said
Oa mu naman,,richkid ka kasi kaya hindi mu naranasan yan,,baka pag sayu nangyari yang ganyan mas malala pa gawin mu
Angswerte nong mga umalis sa toro fam. grabe yung PEACE OF MIND na ata nila ngayon. Kawawa yung mga nagstay 😣 apakatocxic na msyado
Sino ang lumabas?
The fact that she made her choose between leaving or getting hit is insane, biological daughter or not you do not physically abuse what you call family.
frrrr di nalang siya sana nagtanong kasi it's abuse either way🤷🏻♀️
Exactly
LINYAHAN NANG MGA KULANG SA PALO NA ABUSO
its not abuse its called DISAPLINA i aldready experience that too...i mean mommy oni is right if she just said it earlier she wont be hurt if someone hurts you,you have to sprang into action or call emergency. you know why you called it abuse.. its because you never experience that. example, that happens to you what will you do...say it or get DISAPLANED if you have nothinh to say good its better to keep your words to your self.
@@kylamaygomez1726pinagsasabi mo dyan teh? di porke binubugbog kayo eh normal na yon! kahit kailan hindi magiging normal ang pag buhatan ka ng kamay ng magulang mo, hindi disiplina ang tawag don!
Sobrang thankful ako kay God na hind ganto ang pag disiplina saming magkakapatid never nanakit parents namin as disiplina
Now I understand why most people sinasabi sa mga umalis sa Toro fam, “congratulations dahil nakaalis kayo sa toxic place”. Life is hard already. Family should be a safe place to us, not a battle field.✌🏻
Ang Dami mong alam English English ka
@@NicoleLucas-lh9cruhaw ka sa iphone ? Haha
@@NicoleLucas-lh9crintindihin mo sis
Tama
Im saying sorry because thats how your parents raise you.
GIGIL/BUGBUGAN AND BEST SCENE:
26:52 - Starts from Tyronia
27:26 - Confronting Paye scene
27:49 - Gigil ni Mari scene
28:35 - Confronting Paye 2 scene
29:59 - Toni lesson scene
33:03 - Bakit hiwalay? Lock pinto scene
35:37 - Toni bugbog/concert intro
35:55 - Toni bugbog/concert begin scene
37:19 - Toni bugbog/concert outro
40:57 - Drama/Iyakan scene
Thxx
This kind of disciplines give me goosebumps..
Discipline ≠ Abuse
@@JohnLennonsocks let's just report the vid. bc some of the viewers are normalizing the abuse and glorifying it, they will probably copy the act of "disclipline"
For real, like I almost cried because of this
The trauma dapat title. Hoping for the best of you magkapatid Papi and Paye. You deserve better and each other. Dapat kayo ang magkakampi wala ng iba.
let's just report the vid. bc some of the viewers are normalizing the abuse and glorifying it, they will probably copy the act of "disclipline"
as someone who grew up in a toxic environment, abusive, and mad people. this video doesn’t really sit right with me-i mean A LOT OF US. this type of way of disciplinary is not always the best way and will never be. always remember that a person can be brave and tough enough without experiencing things like this. emotional stability means so much sa isang individual. speaking as a psych student, mental health advocate, and someone who cares.
Yes this happened to me ones but I am okay now!
The way they say this is "discipline" is not okay. There's so many ways to discipline a child and hitting them is just a way of getting trauma. They could've take it more gently- And actually not physically hurt her.
Biological daughter or not, family should NOT hurt each other out of anger. Just because you couldn't handle your emotions doesn't mean you can hurt others and act like okay lang yon because nadala ka sa emosyon.
As a person who grew up in a toxic household- I can feel her(Paye) pain. She probably has a trauma now, hugs Ate !!☹️🫶
Yung mga dating members ng toro fam grabe cguro yung pasasalamat nila na wala na cla dyan. I’m happy for them. Yung mga naglakas ng loob na umalis, sila yung talagang kahanga hanga
Kaya nga d na q bbalik sa gnyang Tao Kung aqoh yan
Tama
Agree !
I agree with this.. 💯
dami pera pero di masaya
36:21 As someone who grew up with an abusive father, this brought up those horrible memories. Hitting is not discipline, it's aggression. Hitting as discipline is not normal, it's a choice.
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39:40
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Truth!
Dapat sa video na to nirereport. Kulong dapat abot nito.
"hinahayaan mong saktan ka non e di kanga non kaano ano" coming from you toni, hindi porque ikaw nag pprovide ng needs nila, may karapatan kanang manakit, ikaw mismo nag sabi na mag sabi sayo pag may mali, at nanasakit sabihin sainyo pero ikaw mismo ang nananakit.
may pamilya ka po ba? alam mo po ba ibigsabihin ng pamilya?
oo hindi gnyan pamilya namin, may bounderies at maayos ang usap. physical abuse at injury yan in the guise of Disiplina LOL @@ChoPao.
Anu Bayan, ok na Sana disiplina Tama lang yan Pru Anu Bayan ge video mo pa? dyos Mio marimar Toni mnsan sa subrang pagiging good mnsan subra yabang mo Sana Nd muna ge video.
Truueee ang harsh nun😢 grabe nagulat ako di naman na magand ayung ganong gawain sobra
Hindi kailangan maging kadugo o kaapelyido para masabi mong "RELATIVE" kayo, nasa PUDER siya ni Toni, at humingi yan ng permiso sa kapatid niya kasi nga hindi kayang iHandle ni Papi si Paye, malamang sa malamang may pakialam at concern yan si Toni kay paye dahil "ANAK" nga ang turing niya kay paye, mahal nila si paye kaya ganyang ang reaksiyon, hindi lahat nakukuha sa masinsinang usap kung hindi mo lalatayan, danas ko yan sa mismong mga magulang ko, mas malupit pa dyan. Ganyan talaga pag matigas ang ulo, kailangan ng ultimatum para magtino
Nafefeel ko talaga ang pain ni Paye dito 🥺🥺 paye be well
Toni is a perfect example of a traumatized, rebel, liberated, and controlling person who’s trying hard to do the same with her so called “family”.
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Manipulative pati si Vince tuta nya
4 years konang idol at supporter ni mommy oni pero nung nakita koto nawalan nako ng gana sakanya.. This video really broke my heart kase mentally at physically nya sinaktan si paye kahit hindi sila magkadugo 💔
Finally, seeing someone to have the guts to say this. I believe there are other ways you can "discipline" someone with no physical things getting involved. But I don't even know what's the point of doing it in front of your kid, tyronia is just traumatized at this point. Wag na rin kayo mag taka kung mababawasan ulit yang Toro fam.
I agree din naman but not with tyronia in the same room.. you could see in her face nung pinapili si paye kung layas o bugbog na worried talaga siya
Habang pinapanood ko to. Nag flashback lahat ng nangyare saken nung nakatira pa ako sa Tita ko. Parang nkita ko yung sarili ko kay Paye kung pano sampal sampalin ni Mommy toni. Nakakatrauma yung ganyang experience na didisiplinahin ka ng ibang tao at hindi ng magulang mo. Wala kang choice, kasi may utang na loob ka, wla kang ibang gaGAwin kundi tanggapin lahat ng punishment na ibibigay sayo bilang pagdidisiplina daw nila. Pero deep in side sobrang sakit nun. Pero kailangan mong umayon at magppanggap na okay lahat ng ginawa nila dahil nagkamali ka. Wala kang choice kasi may utang na loob ka.
Same nag flash back Lahat Ng sakit na nadarama KO nung sinaktan ako ni mama na kesyo ang Arte ko raw ang Tamad KO raw tas Ito lt to Hahaga napagalitan ako ni mama and after 5 mins nahulog Yung mga hanger siguro Kala nag dadabog ako pero wala akong choise Kasi nasabi konaman na eh na nahulog Lang kase ganto tas wala eh ako Lang to eh kailangan KO daw Kasi Ng pasa duguang sugat but it ok I'm lucky to have my mom😢
Same feeling 😢
Exaclty 😢 bigla nag flashback lahat 😢
Nag flashback din Sakin LAHAT 😭
Di naman siguro mangyayari yan kung wala syang ginawang mali.
Omg, that feeling na sinasaktan yung kapatid mo sa harap mo yet wala sya mgawa dahil she's providing their needs.she's crossing the line na dapat yun kapatid ang gumagawa ng pagdidisiplina. Masyado nya hinahawakan sa leeg mga kasama nya sa bahay.infront of tyronia pa talaga
Kaya nga e, dapat yung kapatid ang mag disiplina dyan e, ganyan talaga nagagawa ng pera pati dignidad mo tatapakan jusko! Lahat ng yan mawawala din kay toni dahil masamang tao sya yan ang katotohanan dahil pera lang naman ang sentro nila dyan hindi pamilya
True po,
Paano kaya kung si Tyronia ang nasa kalagayan ni Paye? Ganun din kaya ang gagawin ni Toni Fowler🤔
TRUE
True
dun ako naiyak sa part na yun. bakit di nakaya ni papi na panindigan yung pagiging ate nya ki paye . at bakit nya hinyaaang saktan ni toni kapatid nya eh kung pwede namang sya ang mag didisiplina.
I know we had quite different approaches to disciplining someone, especially if that someone was your child. For someone who has experienced abuse in the home, I can assure you that physical discipline is not the answer, yes, magtitino ka, yes tatatak sa kokote mo kung ano ang tama sa mali, kung ano responsibility mo bilang ate, kapatid, kuya, etc. However, it will leave a lingering feeling that "If I'm not good, if I can't do this right, I might get abused again." In short, you will have this trauma, and the cycle will begin. If we can't discipline them with words, we can use physical punishment.
Watching this brings back memories of my own experiences with what Paye has gone through. It was a terrible incident, but I never told my parents about it because "ayoko ng gulo" you think it's easy for us to not reveal what happened? To keep it hidden? We want to say it, we want to say it BADLY, but we can't because of prior traumas in your own household
This is NOT love!! This is CONTROL!!
I experienced this first hand. All i wanted is someone to understand me and why I did certain things but rather than understanding me, they used this kind of discipline. And to this day, in my 30s, im still trying to recover from the trauma in the past.. 😔😔 soo to everyone who is “praising” bold star toni for her “disciplining”, you all need to think twice. Mali ang gnwa ng bata pero there are more mature ways of handling a situation like this. Kailangan tlga i broadcast and gawin to sa harap ng million na tao.
Yung scar sa face nya will be temporary but the image and the damage of what toni has done will be forever.
Her soo called “fans” and “followers” need to wake up. Is this what you call a “role model”..
And toni, you keep talking about “respect” but your decisions in life are the complete opposite of that word.
Indeed!!! HINDI DISIPLINA ANG PHYSICAL ABUSE
Korek hindi ito love this is control kung love mo ang tao hindi mo ipakita sa buong mundo kung pano mo cxa sinaktan hahahaha for the sake of MONEY
Dati gusto ko yan cxa now never
kung makapanakit akala mo talaga, kadugo. grabehan lang. wala lang din kay papi, palibhasa isa ring sunud-sunuran. kapatid ko saktan ng ganyan sa harap ko, makikipag p4t4yan talaga ako. 🤦🏻♀️
Sa mga nagsasabing mali yung disiplina ni toni, tama kayo pero dapat lang yun sa mga anak na may ginawang mali😊 kasi 90's na nanay ganyan sila mag disiplina kaya kung mapapansin nyo sa mga bata noon bihira lang may nabubunyag ng maaga 🎉
I never experienced thiz kind of discipline. Dinidisplina ako pero never akong pinahiya sa harap ng madaming tao tulad nito. Kung didisplinahin man ako, kaming dalawa lang ni mama. Grabe to, goodluck.
Hindi naman niya kasi anak kaya ganyan yan🤣🤣 for sure dniya magagawa yan sa anak niya
Patagal nng patagal lumalaki ung ulo nng idol niyo🤮🤮
As someone who did a lot of mistakes, I've never experienced this kind of discipline from my parents but still I turned out fine. This is brutal and harmful to physical and mental health especially to those people who had a traumatic experience watching this.
Sa mga nagsasabing mali yung disiplina ni toni, tama kayo pero dapat lang yun sa mga anak na may ginawang mali😊 kasi 90's na nanay ganyan sila mag disiplina kaya kung mapapansin nyo sa mga bata noon bihira lang may nabubunyag ng maaga 🎉
@@Jakemanalo453Hindi din..
May psychological effect sa utak ng bata .
@@Jakemanalo453 lahat talaga bebs cinocommentan mo ng ganito noh?
Same ganyan din ako pero sa tatay ko 😢
@@Jakemanalo453I feel bad for your future kids if this is the way you think. “Discipline” is not an excuse to physically abuse your kids, especially in front of her younger daughter. I understand why Toni is angry, but it seems like she took her anger out on her daughter. This is not teaching her kid to act better, but only teaching her to be more sneaky so her mom doesn’t find out.
This is like more of an abuse rather than discipline this acts shouldn't be tolerated and not normalized because its just leads to traumatic experience.
As someone na lumaki in this kind of environment where we called it “discipline” it triggers my emotional trauma 😢 It’s okay na disiplinahin pero yung parang maging emotional punching bag ka dahil sa frustration ng taong nagmamahal sayo, will always be an abuse for me.
I agree. Nasasaktan ako makita ‘to. I’m also mad kasi Papi is letting Toni treat her younger sister like that. Bilang totoong kapatid, dapat against sya sa ganyan.
i agreeeee
I agree
Disiplina hndi nman bugbog ang gnawa, mahal nya cPaye kaya nya dinidisiplina the way kung pno nya disiplinahen ang anak nya at ang mga tinuturing nyang anak dahil ayaw nyang mpahamak....
@@jellynbautista-arguson3872 Never naging tama ang disiplina gamit kamay o pag buhat ng kamay na kahit sinuman. mali ang manakit kahit saan anggulo mo tignan.
Hindi mo man lang inisip muna Toni, kung bakit nagsinungaling yang si Paye. Maybe that's the reason why bakit hindi niya agad sinabi sa inyo kasi ganyan kayo magre-react. Also, physical abuse na yang ginawa mo. Una sa lahat, hindi ikaw ang Nanay nyan. Tumatayo ka lang na Nanay nyan pero hindi mo yan legally na anak. Anong rights mo na saktan yan? At sayo Papi, nasikmura mo yon? Manahimik habang yung kapatid mo, kadugo mo, sinasaktan? Wtf. Kapatid ko nga, makita ko lang sinasabihan ng masama ng ibang tao, mas ako pa affected e. Yung ganyang pananakit pa kaya tapos personal ko makikita? Oo, nakatira kayo jan kay Toni, pero magisip ka, kapatid mo yung sinaktan. Pera pera nalang? For the views? Tandaan niyo, hindi aral ang binigay ni Toni kay Paye. Alam mo ano? Trauma! Kasi never maitatama ang mali ng isa pang mali. Hindi dahil nakasanayan ay tama na. Kaya maraming kabataan ang nakakaranas ng depression, dahil sa ganyang klaseng parenting method. Kaya nagsisinungaling ang isang bata, dahil ganyan ang reaction ng magulang or guardian. Kaya nagsisinungaling, dahil hindi maramdaman ni Paye na safe siya na mag sabi sa inyo kasi ganyan kayo mag react. Gosh, super na-trigger ako sa video na to. Ang saya saya ng umpisa ng video, pero sa dulo sobrang nakaka-trigger ang ginawa mo Toni at sa harap pa talaga ng anak mo yan ginawa? Counted na rin yan as child abuse dahil sa harap ng minor mo sinaktan si Paye. Plus yung mga salita na dapat kayong pamilya lang nakaka-alam, pinangalandakan niyo pa? Ano pa mukhang ihaharap ni Paye sa mga kaibigan niya? Hindi mo binubuo si Paye, sinira mo lang siya lalo. After hurting her physically, mentally and emotionally, iga-gaslight mo na hindi mo naman talaga siya gustong saktan at gusto mo lang siya matuto? Maling mali ka Toni! Wtf🤬
finally another person speaking out! damn there's still hope for humanity Lol
Tama ka dyan madam,pwede mag discipline pero yang ganyan nakaka trauma yan , minsan kasi may mga bagay na magsinungaling for good,hindi naman lahat ng pagsisinungaling ay bad, bakit yang c toni perfect wlang tinatago 😂😂 wag nga ako kas lahat ng tao taga pa yan sa bato may tinatagong baho na kahit mamatay cxa d nya kayang sabihin na kahit kanino.bad discipline na nakikita ng buong ong mundo, child abuse hindi sariling anak sobra2 ang pana akit. My god ,at sa kapatid ni paye!! Kung ako kapatid d ko kaya yang tingn ng ganyanin ang kapatid ko d bali d magpansinan habang buhay d ko keri yang tingnan ganyanin kapatid ko never!!!
Agree! Our household should be a safe space for the children and youth.
Tama po kayo dahil di kadugo si paye and especially di rin sya nanay ni paye sa birth cert kaya wala syang karapatan manakit sobrang laking trauma maibibigay sa bata yon
Si ton1 kopkop naman lang yn galit na galit pero di kaya ayusin sarili nya pvro ktngahn tinuro sa ank at pamilya dt dyan bnbril o ridin n tandem ee
I feel sorry for Paye.... That abuse is never right. That discipline is never fair. I was crying when I saw how Toni release her rage to Paye. Clearly, she has anger issues. All adults there were coward. I also felt sorry for Tyronia.
Nag dedescipline lng nmn so kommy toni
True, all adults around Toni and Marie are cowards. The guys too do not have the balls to stand for the truth...kkaawa mga bata sa knila, wla man lng good role models.
Lagot ka teh may mang aaway sayo na Solid Mommy Oni fan lol hindi matanggap na mali si toni sa part na ‘to and never magiging form of discipline ang pananakit..
@@LhiannakateTutaanViadotry mo Kaya lumapat un sapak sau n Toni Ewan q Lang Kung masabi mo Yan nssbi mo Yan Kasi d kaw UN nssktan ghad te sinapak sya at sinampal at may pwersa isang sapak Lang sobrang sakip na dagdagan pa Ng sampal e
@@kayiemecha7447kya nga mga ndi ata nkramdam Ng sapak e
CONTROL FREAK.. BUTI NALANG UMALIS SILA NANAY AND TATAY. ❤️
Naawa ako kay papi. Tiniis nya yong pain na makitang sinaktan yong kapatid nya dahil sa “utang na loob” kay toni!
true😢
Grabe ung pain sa eyes nya, kasi ang ate gagawin ang lahat para mapagtanggol ka. Hayy grabe
hayst people😢
Halatang naawa siya pero ayaw niya ipakita kasi tatalakan siya nung magkapatid, takot siya. Kawawang paye. Pag nagkataon wala siyang mapapalang tulong kay papi emotionally kasi pag galit si toni galit na rin si papi.
Oo tsk mali den kse yun kapatid ni paye concern lang si mommy one kay paye ng kung ano mangyare kay paye dapat sla una makakaalam
Damn, now I know why people choose to leave them😀 As someone na lumaki sa gulpi at sa bugbog to the point na muntik ko nang ikamatay dahil sa simpleng things, this bullshit is very very wrong. There is a HUGE difference between FEAR and RESPECT. You would never want a child to listen to you out of fear, that's very fucked up. Respect is them wanting to listen to you because they look up to you and they appreciate the treatment you give them and the things you do to them, for them. Fear is when they listen to you out of immense anxiety that they might get hurt/you might hurt them if they don't.
Imagine, the abuse that happened to me started when I was around 5, even though a long time has passed, I can still feel the hands on me.
Kung pwedeng gawin 'to sa bata, try niyo din ipagawa sa bata 'yan pero towards sa inyong matatanda pag nakagagawa kayo ng pagkakamali sa kanila. Tutal "Pamilya" kayo at "patas" kayo and you do it out of "LOVE". Mahal rin nila kayo ah, sige nga, let them beat the shit out of you adults rin.🤩 Love pala eh!🎉🎉🎉
Grabe pa yung mga comments dito na "Nung bata kami mas malala", "Deserve naman niya", and "Kulang pa nga" shit, kasuka.🤮 Porket y'all had it worse, iniinvalidate niyo na yung mga na trauma because of abuse? Gahdamn, batak na batak talaga sa pang iinvalidate at pang gagaslight ang ibang mga matatanda/laking 90's🤢 You all need therapy, someting's seriously wrong with y'all for thinking that this shit is normal.
💯💯💯💯
Pero nang hindi dahil sa past na malupitang disiplina maganda ang buhay namin ngayon at kaya namin harapin ang lahat kahit gano kabigat not like now gen z konteng epekto lang sakanila kinikitil na ang buhay kase nga masyado silang protektado ng gobyerno sa so called Child abuse kahit na disiplina lang yung sa iba pero no to the point na may pananakit na ikakamatay na ng bata syempre iba na yun sa way ng disiplina sa amin noon sa disiplina ngayon na pinapatay naman na nila tapos sasabihing alibi is disiplina 🤣🤣🤣 magkaiba nga talaga yun
Tama
Korek kaya d na rin tama yang ginagawa nya hindi maganda sa mata, pwede mo pagsabihan ng hindi nakikita ng buong mundo sapal at sabunot abot nya kay to i, kala mo naman siya nag luwal hahaha kahit anu pa man d naman yan naka patay para ganyanin ng sobra2, bwesit ang kapatid naka tingin lang sakit sobra kahit naman napariwara ang buhay nila, dapat bang ganyanin sila, dapat dyan pag mamahal kasi kulang sila sa attention ng isang magulang hindi ung ginigipit sila,pinapakita pa sa buing mundo kung panu mo saktan ang bata" which is hindi na bata" para saan for the sake of MONEY 🤑
EXACTLY. The trauma and pain after. This is not love, this is a projection of fear and traumas. Batang 90s rin ako but I never experienced this sa kamay ng mga magulang ko, yet lumaki naman akong may disiplina.
I understand that parents have to do what they have to do in order to set their children straight. but the fact that it’s being posted online for everyone to see, and not to mention her family and daughter seeing and thinking that kind of behavior is normal. Toni thinks that her way of “discipline” is okay because her intention is to protect her kids from experiencing the trauma she experienced, but in reality she’s giving her kids another kind of trauma from the humility and pain they’re experiencing.
Ganyan dapat mag disiplina lalo na ngayon mga bata matitigas ang ulo kaya nabubuntis ng maaga kung tutuusin kulang pa yan sa matitigas ang ulo kami nuon latigo ang pinanghahampas samin
@@Jakemanalo453 pwede naman mag disiplina hindi sa harap ng mga tao at hindi kailangan manakit lalo na kung hindi mo kadugo
True. Hurt people will hurt people also
@@Jakemanalo453 did you not read the whole thing? or ayaw mo lang talaga intindihin??? okay lang kasi nabugbog ka din naman?
@@Jakemanalo453wow kuya, ur already old enough yet you still say things like that, gen z is different, you can talk them out and calmly discipline them, ur already the reason why ur children is missbehaving and doesnt tell their personal life kasi sasabihin nyo wala lng yon, when it comes to discipline talk them out and ask them what went wrong. batang 90s experienced this things, you have to BE better,DO better. Not repeat the history itself.😊
REPORT THIS IS ABUSE!!!
SO TRAUMATIZING!!
Abusing isn’t a way of discipline this isn’t also what you call “love” this thing shouldn’t be normalized at all. Speak to her nicely about it, discuss her wrong doings without raising your hand at her because this is wrong, if you want your child to be open to you then ‘wag niyong idala sa ganitong paraan. If you experienced this type of “discipline” when you were a kid then i’m sorry for that but things have changed now, you have to let in sink in to you that things are now different from when you were still a child. ABUSING IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO DISCIPLINE SOMEONE A MINOR OR NOT THIS IS WRONG.
Asan yung abuse? Nakwento naman nila yung history pano nila disiplinahin. Respeto pa. Di naman lalaki si Tyronia ng ganyan if abusive si mami oni.
@@zhanekim6942 asan yung abuse daw. Sige magtanong ka pa. Kahit saang anggulo. Abuse yun. Hindi na normal ginagawa nila. E kaya naman pala umalis yung iba kase bayolente naman pala sila. Hindi sa lahat ng bagay madadaan sa pananakit . Mga kagaya mong nagbubulag bulagan pa. Siguro gusto mo maambunan ng iphone no kaya kahit mali na nagbubulagan bulagan ka pa. Kasuya
@@zhanekim6942kung di abuse tawag dun bakit tinakpan nila. Dapat proud sila sa form of discipline nila. Kala ko ba wala ng filter filter dito? Kasi alam nila mali. Pero sabik si Oni manggulpi. The audio itself is disgusting enough. Di ko kinaya. Wag nalang mag anak kung ganyan lang din gagawin mo.
Parang di kayo napalo ng mga nanay nyo kung maka react kayo ng abusive mom si toni.
@@HambogSagpro-xt8fqit doesnt mean sinusupport din namin ang nanapalo saamin. some of us want a violence - free kind of discipline.
Sobrang nasaktan ako sa episode na to lalo na nung sinabi ni Paye na "ang sakit ng puso ko" 😢
No wonder inalis ni venus at elon ung mga anak nila sa circle nila toni .. mas maganda yung move nila.
Tama..
Trueee ❤
yesss
True❤
Yes, napakagandang dsisyon yon, venus and Elon are parents Alam nila ang makakabuti sa mga anak nila, later on ganun din gagawin ni Toni sa mga anak nila at gulo Lang ang mangyayari..
39:50 Baby Girl Tyronia. Hindi masamang mag keep ng secrets ng iba. Ikaw ang pinagkatiwalaan ng isang tao, ikeep mo yon, masama man o hindi. just a piece of advice.
People who think na ang equal ng pagmamahal is physical hurt has to think twice. For me it was below the belt. Alam kong mahal ni Oni si Paye but physically hurting her? I don’t think that’s right. Okay kung sampal eh that’s fine but to continuously hurt her that’s different. Then people here in socmed will say na normal lang na ganito ganyan na saktan para matuto pero malaki na si Paye she’s fucking 18 yrs old sampal na lang dapat ang ginawa sa kanya. My gad! Lastly, what Mari said about Tyronia being disiplinado? I don’t think so. The way Tyronia talked to Paye sometimes pataas ng boses and pataray sa mas nakakatanda sa kanya (please don’t tell me na okay lang kasi magkapatid na turing naman) is sooo disrespectful. Kung si Toni pinagmamalaki niya na never siyang sumagot sa nakakatanda then how so si Tyronja di nagagawa? Wag rin magsalita ng tapos kasi ugali ni Tyronia lumalabas na din.
This is a fact, ok lang na mag disiplina, I know na "traditional" yung pag papalo etc. Pero parang ako yung nasaktan for paye. And yung kay Tyronia na nakita niya na ginawa yon that was TOO MUCH. Pati yung ugali ni tyronia napapansin ko na kung ano ano na nalalaman niya, she's growing up pero too much na, nag iiba ugali niya.
Kung nanay ka at malalaman mong may kasamanv natulog sa kwarto ang anak mo sa loob ng bahay niyo, kahit pa sabihin mong babae yun pero tomboy what will you do? Kaka 18 palang ni paye, and yan ang issue ni paye nuon is may mga nakaka live in siya, dinala na niya sa bahay nila toni, she disrespected not only toni but pati yung sarili niya, hindi na tayo mga bata para sabihin na walang ngyari pero wala tayong alam dahil naka lock ang kwarto, mali ni papi na pinabayaan dahil parang wala lang sa kanya, dahil parang barkada lang siguro sa isip niya, pero nanay ang role si toni walang cctv sa kwarto so di nila alam kung nag sasabi ba si paye ng totoo, kung ako yan ganyan din gagawin ko, nakatura ka sabahay ko ako nag papakain sayo at tumatago bilang nanay mo so masakit pero need ni paye yan, kami ng jowa ko inabot ng 5 years na sa sala lang kami natutulog ngbtanghali, now pwede na kami mag tabi sa kwarto and i am not locking my door out of respect sa magulang dahil gusto kong patunayan na tama yung pag katiwalaan nila ako na hindi ko bababuyin ang bahay namin doing things with my bf, earn your parents respect na mag patulog sa kwarto mo , ivang point of view but same situation, respeto ang kailangan matutunan ni paye unang una sa sarili niya to have respect not only sa mga tao sa paligid niya pero sa mga bagay na meron siya including the house na pinatitirhan niya, pwede na niyang gawin lahat ng gusto kung may sarili na siyang bahay period.
@@mytruefeelingsmylife5910 it is a problem kay Paye but what i’m tryna say is the way they disciplined her sampal okay na hindi bugbog. Ikaw kaya mong bugbugin anak mo? Kung kaya mo just know the consequences and effect nun sa kanya. Kung kinocompare mo yung nakaraan sa ngayon well I don’t think you are adaptive sa environment mo.
@@mytruefeelingsmylife5910 so dapat ba bugbugin nalang siya? Ang sabi lang nung nagcomment dito, sampal nalang sana at okay na sana yun pero bugbog yung ginawa. knowing na bata pa yan. Parang anong klaseng nanay ang mangbogbog sa "anak"
I agree. Nakita mo yung vlog ni tito vince. Sabi pa niya tinarayan na niya si paye kase may reason na daw. Parang sa 11 years old ganun na magsalita. I dont think tyornia is ganun kabait talaga. sana lang pag may nagawa din si tryronia na malala in the future bugbugin din niya lolz
Dear Paye,
I know the feeling of being picked. You think no one will understand you. So a person like you build an attitude that is reflected by what you experienced. You sometimes keep things in yourself because of the past trauma. A person accustomed to violence becomes a rebel. Wag ka maging padalosdalos sa mga desisyon. Mahirap maging failure sa mga taong nagpapakain sayo. Palagi ka lang makinig at kung magkamali tandaan mobg wlaang perpekto sa mundo. Madi- disappointment sila pag di mo nasuklian ng maganda yung pinaghirapan nila para sayo. Kaya tiis lang at wag na wag ka na ulit gagawa ng ikakasira ng tiwala nila. Sana maging matatag ka at balang araw maging successful. God bless.
xx
The way tyronia smiling while toni speak like hell to paye THE LITTLE TONI IS RISING AGAIN🤣
Ano pa nga ba mambu bog din yan pag laki.
Kawawa nmn si tyronia sana kunin ni tatay elon na
mana mana sa nanay ihh
kaya lang po nag smile si tyronia dahil nasabi ni tony na idol ni tyronia si paye the way manamit si paye kaya parang nag smile lang sya, ndi naman dahil happy sya na pinasasabihan si paye.
Grabe naman kayo makahusga agad kay Tyronia alam nyo n agad kung ang ang gagawin in the future kayo na talaga...
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THIS VIDEO TRIGGERS OUR CHILDHOOD TRAUMA. Hindi porket nakalakihan mo ang pisikal na pagdisiplina eh yun na ang tama. NEVER EVER ROMANTICIZE VIOLENCE kahit pa sa loob ng pamilya. Ang mahirap pa sa nangyari is may present na menor de edad (Tyronia) so this may actually be categorized as CHILD ABUSE. 😓😓😓
kasi pati hair clip tanggal anglakas nang pag kasampal
true huhu idk kung bakit sinasabi ng mga comments na “normal lang yan para mag tanda” GIRL DO NOT NORMALIZE THIS KIND OF ACT SOBRANG MALI +++ RESPETO RIN SA SA ATE kahit na sabihin na sobrang close mo yung ate nyan, despite of the closeness ang respeto nandoon parin dapat
Hindi rin 😂😂hindi naman Dapat ganyan na makikita sa buong mundo kung paano mo binugbog ang bata😂😂 which is hindi naman na bata, pwede mag decipline pero ung ganito nakaka trauma, iba noon kay sa ngaun, dati nga sinilid pa ako sa sako at binitin😂😂 kayo naranasan nyo rin ba😂😂
Pag ako kapatid d ko kayang tingan lang na ganyanin kapatid ko na ung nanakit d naman naglabas sa poke ng magulang namin never!!!
@@Stephanie-ti3nqte ang hndi normal ung araw araw syang nakakatikim ng bugbog na konting pag kakamali lang eh na mimisikal na,..naipon ung mga ginawa nyang mali cnbi nman diba? hndi na nadadaan sa pakiusap,..kea ganyan ung ginawang pag didisiplina,..naranasan ko din madisiplina ng ganyan. ngayon pag napag kukwentuhan nmin natatawa nlang kmi kc atlist ngayon masasabi nming na disiplina kmi ng tama,..cgro nsa tao nlang yan kung dadamdamin nla at hndi cla matututo o tatanggapin nla yang sakit na yan at madadala nila sa isip nla na nangyari yan sa kanila kc mahal cla ng pamilya nila at nagkamili cla kea diniplina cla ng gayan,..
Biglang bumalik ung trauma ko dito, i've experienced this kind of disciplinary action im a millenial and i have 2 kids my 1st born is already 14, kahit pa cguro gano katigas ulo ng anak ko i will never do this, though yes it is indeed effective before, pero sa panahon ngayon u need to understand the new generation which is gen z so that u know how to handle them and discipline them in a way na maiintindihan din nila. Uulitin ko im a millenial and until now ung trauma na epekto ng pangdidisplina sakin before dala ko hanggang ngayon. Yun lang.
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Dapat ibalik ang ganyan pagdidisiplina!!! Sa panahon naten ngyon maraming kabataan ang mas kailangan na ganyan!!! Grabe super ako naiyak!!! Nakakamiss talaga yung mga old times na!! Nararansan namin non!!! Na halos wala na sa mundo naten ang gumawa saten, 😢 thankyou mami oni!!! Super worth yung nuod ko palagi sa content nyo na to!! Ito ang pinaka the best TH-cam content na napanuod ko!!!
true tapos tignan mo si Paye and Tyronia, grabe respeto nila. If Gen Z pa yan ngayun, ay waley na. GG
i don't think hurting them nor abusing them could make them more discipline e kung iisip it would cause truama talaga, kaya nga may mga teenager jan na depressed dahil sa abusive parents nila e tas yung iba na mismong bahay nila hindi nila mismo matratong safe place o home dahil don nila nakuha ang truama nila yung iba nga nag lalayas pa e
@@AckieDumpFRR ‼️‼️
Top Bible Verses about Discipline:
Hebrews 12:11 - For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Proverbs 12:1 - Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid.
Proverbs 13:24 - Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.
1 Corinthians 9:27 - But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
Revelation 3:19 - Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.
Proverbs 3:11-12 - My son, do not despise the Lord's discipline or be weary of his reproof, for the Lord reproves him whom he loves, as a father the son in whom he delights.
Proverbs 29:17 - Discipline your son, and he will give you rest; he will give delight to your heart.
Ephesians 6:4 - Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.
That's not how you should have done it Toni. You're not in the right place.
True, tyaka hndi naman sya ang totoong nanay ni paye
Di man totoong nanay ni paye si mommy oni pero nasa puder sya ni mommy oni, so responsibilidad ni mommy oni si paye.
@@chendelosreyes5182pero mali padin ginawa ni mommy oni
my part naman kasi na deserve ni paye di mo ksi alam ano ang totoong ng yare sa totoong buhay and marami din si mommy oni pinagdaanan kaya wag nyong sabihin na mali yung ginawa ni mommy oni naranasan ko na din yan maraming tao na naranasan yan mag babago din si paye di nyo lng alam
Story time lang
I grew up living in a family na napaka strikto na kung saan laging nandyan yung Papa ko na naka bantay naka bantay rin naman si Mama.Lalo lang akong naiyak nung narinig ko nung nagsisimula nang tumaas yung boses ni Mommy Oni sa pag didisiplina kay Ate Paye kase naririnig ko yung mga pag iyak ni Ate,sa puntong yon biglang sumakit dibdib ko kase yun nga nakikita ko yung pag didisiplina ni Mommy Oni na katulad na katulad sa pag didisiplina ni Papa mas lalo kong na intindihan na Di porket sinaktan nang magulang ibig sabihin di kana mahal mas naipapakita lang nang mga magulang kung gaano ka nila ka mahal at kung gaano ka ka importante sa kanila na kung saan isang way nang magulang na pagpapakita nang emosyon kung gaano ka talagang ka importante sa kanila…Mas na realize ko na lahat nang ginagawa nang magulang ay paraan lamang upang matuto at mag tanda kase all they want is to be a good parent and also for our safety..
Always know your WORTH
Pero parang mali ang ipakita sa buong mundo ang pananampal pambubugbog sa buong mundo just for the vlog
True shmpre need kumita kahit mapahiya ung bata . Pera pera png nmn yan
Lumaki na talaga ulo nng idol niyo
Chaka wag niyo compare ung panahon niyo sa ngayon. Gawin niya nga sa anak niya yan maniniwala talaga ako ganyan siya mag disiplina nng "anak" niya
😢
Tapos inupload yung video para makita ng mundo?
I agree and super relate ako, I grew up also na strict ang papa ko samin. To the point na napapalo at nasasaktan kami. Nung bata pa ko super kong dinamdam yung every time na mapapalo or masasaktan ako ni papa. Not until now na nakagraduate ako and so far I realized na kung hindi ako hinigpitan ng parents ko baka napariwara na buhay ko lalo na pasaway ako nung kabataan ko. Ngayon ko naaappreciate yung pagiging strict nila sakin/samin dahil gusto lang nilang mapabuti kalagayan namin.
Maraming tao sa paligid ko na ang tingin nila sa tatay ko "Masamang Ama" dahil sa pagiging strict nila at pamamalo nila samin. Pero for me ang tatay ko ang "PINAKA MAPAGMAHAL, MAAALALAHANIN AT RESPONSABLENG TAO" sa buhay ko bukod sa mama at lola ko. Hinding hindi ko ikakahiya na lumaki ako na strikto ang tatay ko dahil ganon nila pinaramdam ang pagmamahal nila sa amin.
THIS SHOULDN'T BE NORMALIZE
True
UP!!!
could have done it as private not just show it on internet which felt weird right?
Lahat ng Parents , maiintindihan ang ginawa ni toni. iba iba ang way ng pagdidisiplina , iba na panahon ngayon kesa dati ou tama kayo, pero iba din ang henerasyon ngayon sa dati. 😊
True. Kami nakaranas kami ng ganyan pero sa pinakamalala na ginawa namin, and na realize ko na minsan kelangan talaga para magtanda. Di ko sinasabeng e tolerate yung physical abuse pero minsan dyan din tayo natuto lalo na kapag magulang na dumisiplina. Matatakot ka ng gawin kung ano man ang mali kase alam mong mapapagalitan ka ulet. Siguro kung araw araw kang sinasaktan yun ang di na tama.
Oh my g. Her hurting Paye like that breaks my heart. Grabe Papi was just sitting there while her sister was getting beaten up. That is not how you discipline someone. I cannot believe people around her are tolerating that kind of abuse. Toni, you were so worried that Paye could have been hurt by the guy in the elevator but didn’t you realize that you were the one who actually hurt her???
OA nman si tonyang sa part na yan hndi naman sya nirape ng foreigner na un kaloka nman mentality ng tonyang na to not a good influence😡
Agree :(
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
PPP
@@joemalone1908
The way paye says "Ang sakit ng puso ko" naiyak ako 😭
grabe legit na reality show tong episode na to, mixed emotions naramdaman ko pero mostly, naramdaman ko yung sense of naiintindihan ko tong situation-not in a way na i support physical punishment like this but naintindihan in a way na ganto ako nadisiplina dati and until now parang fresh parin sya hnggg
Nakakaiyak sobrang genuine ng pagmamahal ni mommy toni kay tyronia at paye, gagawin lahat ni mommy toni para lang maging maayos pamilya niya!!! Iloveyou mommy❤
Yung mga nagsasabi na tama yung ganitong ‘disiplina’ magbasa nga kayo ng mga studies. Kumausap ng psychologists/psychiatrists. Kawawa yung mga batang lumalaki diyan. Jusko. Buti umalis yung tatay ni Tyronia. What is childhood trauma.
Oo nga sis , tawa rin ako puro good comments halos 😂 tyronia and hapi andyan , di tama yun.
Ssbhn pa ng iba, nakakainggit daw kasi may gantong “Nanay” na nagdidisplina sa toro fam. LOL💀
Yung words pang gamit habang sinasaktan si paye , hindi pang anak ehh, pang kabit ehh .
totoo saka itong si papi hinahayaan lang na ganon ganunin kapatid niya grabe
Yung pinagdaanan ni papi at paye hindi bugbog kailangan. Therapist po. Maski yung kay Toni at Mari. Mas healthy if you heal from trauma. Di yan tinatanggal sa bugbog.
When paye said "Ang sakit ng puso ko" 💔 Yes masakit yung sinasaktan ka physical pero mas masakit talaga yung na fefeel mo sa isip at puso , nakakadurog panuodin ang ep nato subra
She said In the Last Clip of the video Mag" papabugbug nalang ako sarap sarap buhay ko dito eh eh"
Not a good example of discipline👿
Mukang walang regrets si paye umarte na at yumabang pa lalo as time goes by.
Sa totoo lng.
Kaya nga.. ma angas na yung PAYE.. KALOKA. pero hndi ko xa kiLaLa ng personaL... pero sana mag matured na xa.. mnsan pag tirikntirik ng mata nya nakakairita ...hahaha
@@ShanYeyeng0224sige te mag trabaho ka na ulit daming sinasabe puro wala namang connect
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Yes, ganto kayo magdisiplina mommy Oni. Sana hindi na lang pinost kahit may MORAL LESSON, may mali ang both side. Sana soon mas better pa ang PAGDIDISIPLINA na mangyayari, wala akong ija-judge sa kanila kase WALA NAMAN AKO SA MGA LUGAR NILA. At least, nakapag-usap sila nang maayos sa huli, for ate Paye please wag na po mauulit ang ganitong mga pangyayari. And for Mommy Oni, hope na madisiplina nang maayos-ayos kahit papaano 'yung mga bata. 'Yun lang po, love you Mommy Oni and Toro Family! (Btw I'm not judging them kasi may mga tita at tito ako na ganto magdidisiplina and ayun healthy naman family nila, basta wag kakalimutan 'yung mahinahon na usap after ng nangyari. Communication is the KEY pa rin. 🤍)
Paano naging healthy ang physical abuse? Stop justifying Toni’s behavior. Kadiri lalo na nandun yung anak niya habang may binubugbog siya?? You guys are stupid asf.
Iba tlga mag disiplina ang Isang ina lalo. N pag babae ang anak mo ...
Sobrang naiyak at n touch aq dun sa sinasampal ni mommy oni c paye n anu role mo Dito ung anak kita anak kita ...
Solid ang panilyang ito ... ❤️❤️❤️ tlgang npakatotoo nio tlga solid kau toro family ....
Kya solid supporter aq ng toro family simulat simula Hanggang ngaun grave mhal n mhal ko kau ...lht TORo Family ❤❤❤❤
TORO FAMILY ATTENDANCE☑️❤️
S1 EPISODE 1-THE ORIGINALS☑️❤️
S1 EPISODE 2-DESERVE☑️❤️
S1 EPISODE 3-WORTH☑️❤️
From BATAAN always support you IDOLLLL☑️❤️❤️❤️
Yung fear sa mukha ni Paye at sadness sa mata ni papi 😔
for sure masakit sa kanya yun kase ate sya eh , pero syempre titiisin nya yun kesa kalabanin ung source of income nila😅
Pero wala silang choice kasi dami na car nabigay sa kanila
Grabe namn si toni manakit jusko king ako yan lalayas na ako hinding hindi kona soya papatawarin hanggang kelan sobra manakit grabe siya 🤧😫
Kung ako kay Papi kiber na mwla lhat, ipgllban ko kpatid ko....mas ok mgtrabaho sa sariling sikap kesa nkkapit ka sa isang may sira sa ulo.
Nagalit kasi lalo si toni. KAsi andun si tyronia at tinuruan si tyronia magsinungaling
Naawa ako kay Paye nakakaiyak. Parang di ko kaya yung ganto naririnig ko yung lakas ng sampal ni Toni kay Paye 😭😭😭
kaya nga aobra naman yata
skl ganon din nangyari sakin nung nalaman ng mama ko😭
Watching this at 2:47 am at nakakaiyak talaga ansakit na parang na trauma si paye sa ganitong pagdidisiplina
Magkakapatayan kami kung kapatid ko yung sinaktan!!!
agree ako sayo
diko mabilang ilang beses tumulo luha ko 😢 pero gusto ko yung disiplinang yan dahil yan ang naging tanda ng pag babago ng isang tao 😊 salute toro family 😘😘😘
This show how TONI is very protective on her family and i praised her for that this woman shows what love she has for her family ❤ and she will do anything for her family ang galing
Si Papa Audie talaga yung father figure kahit saan mag punta.
facts, sa kaniya talaga ako dati pa! iba siya for me huehuehue
But he's still a coward
This is not the way to disicipline a teenager moreso someone who just stepped in to her 18s. Yes, I get that they just want to protect her, but as someone who had also experienced this. I can say for a fact that it gave me trauma to the point that whenever someone raised their hands, I flinched.
And the fact that this is being posted online and people around them just watched as Paye was being so-called “bugbog” because she didn’t want to leave is heartbreaking. Hugs to you Paye!
Very true
yeah.. pinalaki kami sa disiplina pero hindi sa ganitong paraang ng pagkontrol. Nakakalungkot lang na kailangang magkaroon pa ng eksenang ganito for a reality show whereas pwede naman ayusin na lang sa usapan, nagmumukha tuloy na okay lang itolerate pa sa physical abuse by any means.
Si papi yung tipo ng tao na ilalaglag lahat maisalba lang ang sarili niya. Buti pa si hapi marunong makiramdam niyakap sila Faye. 🥺
Korek
Kahit sariling kapatid pinapabayaan lang na saktan ng iba na sabi daw mahal hahaha 🤣🤣 mahal mo ang pera mo🤣🤣 sampalin mo din kaya ang anak mo, tsaka kung mahal mo yan d mo pa trabahoin ,pag aaralin mo yan🤣🤣 no. 1 anung role mo dito paye! Ate no.2 pagtabaho sa FAB🤣🤣🤣 diba yan lang ang alam nya sa family na yan ang magtrabaho 🤣🤣🤣🤣 alam mo un napakinabangn nyo din ang tao kala mo naman si toni perfect 🤣🤣🤣
gusto nya lang din matuto si paye.. ganun din kasi si papi dati sakit sa ulo tgnan mo naman ngayon natuto sya dahil kila mama mari at mameh oni
@@Cedie_makhulethindi rin na pa sobra naman ata🤑
It’s been 10 months since napanood ko to, pero ngayon lang ako mag cocoment tutal puro pang aano lang naman kinicoment nyo… That is called discipline bkt? Kase ganyan ako dinidisiplina ng mother ko, oo alam ko na may mag cocoment na Di yan tama, that’s not discipline, for me kase Di naman trip lang ng magulang na saktan ka eh, yan ay para tumino ka, kung Di kayo nagaganyan ng magulang nyo ibig sabihin hindi kayo mahal,hindi ko sinasabi na hindi talaga kayo “mahal” ang point ko dito is Di kayo matututo or titino kapag Di kayo nasaktan or what… Sa mga Di napapalo dyan Di nyo kase alam kung pano ang disiplina… Ang alam nyo lang is pinag sasabihan lang kayo or what, pero para sakin that is called discipline, wala akong intension na dapat saktan kayo, for me kase that is what I believe okay?? 😅😊Chaka Sana Di nalang kayo nanood kung puro pang babash lang din icocoment nyo😊
Gotta love Fowler. She’s got guts. It’s nice to see someone stick on their own values😊
As someone na nawalan ng minamahal sa buhay, nakakatrigger yung narinig kong pambubugbog kay Paye. 😢😭😭 Tumaas yung pulse rate ko.
Pls report this kind of video as harassment.D dpat tntolerate pananakit ni Toni at bbaliktarin lng nya na mahal nya...hays.
Betul sekali mommy oni harus di laporkan ke polisi
@@digitaldemos8298 harassment?,.. how? nakita mo ba pano sya sinaktan? oo my tunog pero nakita mo ba? diba nka black screen ung scene na un?,..binugbog ba sya? saan? pano?,..
@@sey9230 d nga nila pinakita pero sinabi nman nila na bnugbog at pinarinig pa...bkt d mo ba narinig? Harassment pa rin un at d dpat tntolerate mga gnung gawain.
@@sey9230ang obv naman na, bulag bulagan pa rin ba??
Many people talk about Toni harming/hitting Paye but did not see Toni's face at the end, crying with Paye as shown that she also did not want to harm her. It's truly saddening to see this but we cannot also blame a "mother" or mother figure to do anything to make her child see what she did wrong and what she can do to change that. Not a good thing to see but also a heartfelt conversation between this family.
Sinasabi mo nak?
tanga
bobo
😢napaiyak ako pero npakathankful ng toro family kay mommi oni😢❤❤❤tama si momi oni nagawa nia yan based sa mga experience niA.. gusto nia lang n safe and secure mga anak nia..😢❤moreblessings torofam❤
Same feels. Naiyak ako pero nakita ko yung point nya
I’m crying this episode 😢😢😢😢 this is the discipline what I experienced before sobra pa nga dito. 😢😢😢
Keeping it up with the Fowlers si ate girl, ginagaya ang mga kardashians na vinivideo ang ganito HAHAHAHAHAHA
Naiyak ako di dahil sinampal sampal si Paye, naiyak ako kasi sa sincere nang pagmamahal ni Toni kay Paye.
tma
I can feel the pain😢
true.. naluha ako potek 😢 bumalik ung mga tropa ko 😢
Great acting ✔️
Great plot ✔️
Great makeup ✔️
Acting bayan?
tangina naiyak ako grabe ung pagmamahal protektahan ni toni pmilya nya lalo ung mga tinuturing nyang anak nya
May maling Ginawa si paye. Pero wala kayong karapatan saktan yung tao. Discipline is all about talking and communication. Not hurting them. That’s abuse.
Mag kakaiba ang disiplina ng mga magulang para magtanda ang anak nila, Mag kakaiba tayo ng naranasan, Kung hindi na maiidaan sa pakiusap yan siguro naman kailangan na ng disiplina para matuto yung bata.
As a young mother, physical discipline never works on kids, and it should stop. Sure, sinasabi nila, it works on a few kids pero ang totoo takot na silang masaktan ulit. God bless them, and hopefully, they have good intentions for showing this kind of video not just for their own fame. God bless everyone 🙏 and please stop hurting your so called family just to prove you love and care for them, it's WRONG! There's so much other way.
And to all who thinks this was a negative thing - Mommy Oni does the best she can, and hindi nyo alam about the other things that Paye might have already done, before this dicipline. Umiyak si Mommy Oni, nakita nyo ang Mom guilt nya. She was not cold or turned down Paye’s hug or sincere apology. Seriouly, MAKE SURE YOUR PERFECT BEFORE YOU JUDGE OTHER MOMS!!
Inulit ulit kong pinanood to grabe mami oni nung pinapili mo c paye na palalayasin o bubuggin at pgsagot ni paye na bugbugin nlng oh it melt my heart iyak ako iyak kudos sayo mami oni very proud sa pagdidisiplina mo sa mga anak mo❤❤
Only 90's babies can understand this kind of discipline
not a 90 baby but I can relate
Yessss legit. Yung iba hndi yan alam eh
Buti nga sampal lang mas masakit pa nga yung amin dati. Sanga ng puno tapos luhod sa asin or monggo.
Legit..
Legit! D maiintndhn ng iba to meron pa nga iba mas malala pa dito 😅
Laglag luha ko sa part na yumakap na sya kay Mommy Oni 😭 Nafeel ko yung love ni Mommy kay Paye 😭😭😭 Masama man o mali tignan para sa iba pero gets ko point ni Mommy Oni sa pagdidisiplina at yung walang lihiman sa pamilya kasi nga THE ORIGINALS 💙💙💙 Totoo lang dapat lahat ✌️☺️
Tama naman un pero ung ipakita sa buong mundo kung panu mo sinaktan ang bata ay hindi tama un,😂
@@Kashowbizmariteswalang magawa si papi, mapapalayas sila eh . Mas mahalaga ang pera kesa sa dignidad nila haha
@@nyeecervera2959 Eto yun ee kahit MOMMY ONI yan e si papi pa rin ang may karapatan mag disipline jan tapos bubugbugin pa jusko di ko kinakaya
@@nyeecervera2959ay tang ina kapag kapatid ko yan binugbog bahala na kaya ko naman mag trabaho ng marangal wag lang ung ganyanin na makikita ng buong Mundo,
@@Kashowbizmaritesagree din ako may point si mami oni pero no need to post that shit in social media
Done S1 Ep 3 without Skipping ads and fast forward 🎉
Grabi paulit-ulit ko pinanunuod to , Naaalala ko talaga lolo ko kay mommy toni pag tapos kami mapalo ng lolo ko ang lambing nya alukin kami kumain tapos hahayaan kami maglaro sa labas. Miss ko na lolo ko 😢 4monts pa lang syang wala.
Belated happy bday Paye! s
Sana mag aral ka, tapusin mo pag aaral mo para hindi ka man maging vlogger in the future may weapon ka para maka stand ka on your own. Bata ka pa Paye dami pang pwedeng mangyari, hindi habang buhay kasama mo sila at bubuhayin ka nila.
Di po pala sya nag-aaral?
Grabe parang tau-tauhan naman kayo dyan. Bibigyan ka ng magandang buhay pero sasaktan ka. Kaya siguro maraming umaalis kasi may pagka-control freak yung environment nyo. Ang tunay na pagmamahal at pagmamalasakit hindi ka sasaktan, magkamali ka man hindi sila dadagdag sa sakit na mararamdaman mo kundi dadamayan ka at papaalalahanan pagdating ng pagkakataong iyon. Mas ok nang maghirap ka na wala sa puder ng mga ganito kasamahan sa bahay kaysa mabuhay ka na lagi kang kakaba-kaba. Pangmamaltrato ito eh palibhasa hindi kadugo. Madali lang magsabi na "pamilya". Dahil nabigyan ka ng engrandeng debut at mga regalo parang binili na yung whole being mo. Mabilis maging kamay na bato. Hindi tama ito. Sana matuto ka rin mami toni. Kapag wala na ang kasikatan at pera maraming aalis sayo toni dahil may hinanakit sila sayo. For sure kung nasa sitwasyon ni paye si tyronia paniguradong hindi ganyan ang magiging asta mo. Bakit? Kasi anak mo. Don't try dressing your being of a control freak sa "Pagmamahal" na tinutukoy mo. Hindi ho ako basher. Ipopoint ko lang ang mali
+1
@@eunice6335Ang lala! Ginawang emotional punching bag yung bata
hindi ko maintindihan yung mga taong gino-glorify yung pananakit ni toni dito. Kesyo, "pag di-displina" "way of showing love" etc. When in fact kaya mo namang idisplina ang bata sa pamamagitan ng pagkausap ng masinsinan. Tsaka kung ano ang nakikita ni paye ginagaya lang nya. Hayyy, pilipinas nga naman.
Totoo to, tingnan mo sila sila nalang natira. Sila lahat may issue talaga. Kahit nga si tatan sariling kapatid nila nilayasan sila eh.
Physical abuse is not okay. This is so wrong!