When shooting for groups keep your head down on the cheek rest and just run the bolt. Everytime you lift your head you’re creating a different alignment.
I'd like to see you use the Hornady Match. If you could have shot four or 5 shot group I believe it actually would do better groups. Black ammo looked like it wanted to produce vertical groups and at longer ranges would open up more. Vertical is bad as is horizontal. Look for the tightest Lil clover 🍀. It will deliver better results. Handloads or factory. Great video as usual.
I appreciate your emphasis on 'affordable'. I was watching another video where they interviewed a guy who was in management at one of the scope companies and he said something to the effect that a $3,000 scope is simply not necessary. Because of your more realistic approach to buy reasonably priced guns and scopes, it's pretty obvious that you don't have to spend thousands of dollars on a set-up. That's real encouraging to those of us who don't have unlimited resources to spend on our obsessions. (How many of us have that kind of money.) (I know this is set-up is your buddies, but I'm speaking regarding your videos as a whole. Thanks for keeping it real.
I know I am coming in late here, but if you start reloading you will find the consistency that the rifle is capable of. Been reloading for 30 years, and loading for 6.5 creed since 2017. Found that it likes 140 gr speer and sierra btsp. Just loaded some 95gr Hornady last week, wow it really does well and significantly less recoil. I am shooting a 12 lds+ Savage Ba110 stealth. Thanks for a informative video.
6.5cm is a great round. I sighted mine in at 100yrds and even with the cheapest "off the shelf" ammo, it shoots sub moa. Literally putting rounds in the same hole.
Super nice rifle Awesome groups at a 100 and those are good at 200 also .I say 95 to 99% of deer in the south east are killed within 100 yards. Been hunting since I was 11 am 57 now hunted in Ga, Ne,Ia, only taken mybe 6 deer between 150 to 450 yards. A ton of deer under 100.
Hornady Black isn’t the best ammo to test zero. You should really consider buying some Hornady 140 bthp bullets(very affordable & widely available) and some H4350 and work a handload up since you are into reloading now.
@@WHOTEEWHO thanks. I'll never take a game animal over 350 yards with my 6.5 CM. I have been curious about that method for my trusty 3.5-10 scope with duplex reticle and no dials.
YOU CAN NOT GO BY PREVIOUSLY SHOT GROUPS AT DIFFERENT RANGES. THE BULLET STRUCTURE CHANGES THE FARTHER YOU SHOOT THEM. KEEP THIS IN MIND TIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT FOR SELF.
Mirage will give you all kinds of strange groups. Not sure what power your camera was own but watch you target move and if you have wind you get the double whammy.
I'm new to long range shooting. I went twice trying to zero my scope but I wasn't able to. One reason is due to several surgeries on my eyes I cannot look through the scope for more than few minutes. After few rounds I completely cannot see the reticle. But I know should be able to do it with few rounds though. It is really bothering me. I'm going to look for a long range precision shooting class hoping it will help me with what I'm doing wrong. It is really bothering me though.
That rifle should shoot better. You need to accurize that ammo to that particular rifle by adjusting the seating depth. Try a 100th each way out and in and then re-test and I'd bet you would close those groups.
The rifle does shoot better. The original test was for factory ammo at 100 yds. He did much better with all but one brand at well under 1 MOA, at least one at under 0.5 MOA. He made it clear the tests are for hunting, not bench rest precision, so factory only, no hand loads. In another video, he said he does not hand load.
I have seen that before. Great groups at 100 yds., sort of OK at 200. I think it is part psychological and part practice. Get used to shooting 200 yds. and see whether there is improvement. I asked a long range competitor about it and he said most people use too much scope at 100 yds and don't have enough zoomies left to double the magnification for 200. I shoot 100 yds. with 4x so I had not thought about the scope being a factor. Your drop chart shows you that you can sight-in 2 in. high at 100 yds, and be on at 200. I bet if you sighted 4 in. high at 100, you'd be point blank for deer past 300. In real life, I'm like you: my deer are within 60 yds. usually. Where I hunted last year, the range finder said the longest possible shot was 87 yds.
A heavier gun I will only shoot long range. The heavier the gun the better to me. Interesting that nitch for a lighter 6.5 Creed for easier carry in the field. 👍🏻
Doesn't seem to shoot any better than my 2019 6.5 creedmoor Approach rifle at probably $1500 cheaper. Same action and trigger, just everything else is different
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Awesome! I bought my wife a Savage MSR AR in 6.5 the other day for her birthday. Planning on taking it out for caribou in a couple months.
Good slug, good placement at a reasonable range, that sould take a caribou quite nicely.
When shooting for groups keep your head down on the cheek rest and just run the bolt. Everytime you lift your head you’re creating a different alignment.
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Excellent group! It’s my favorite caliber
man Whotee, I love these videos! Thank you so much. I bought a BERGARA B14 HMR last year, I'm really loving the looks of this one as well! Stay safe
Man, that action is like butter smooth. Great video sir!
Looking forward to this.
Wish I could watch it live but i will have to watch it shortly after
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Appreciate you making the video's.
Especially at today's prices
I like your videos❤
Keep going
Appreciate you watching
Excellent, crisp presentation
to the point, valid comparisons....super job.
Thanks for watching
I'd like to see you use the Hornady Match. If you could have shot four or 5 shot group I believe it actually would do better groups.
Black ammo looked like it wanted to produce vertical groups and at longer ranges would open up more. Vertical is bad as is horizontal.
Look for the tightest Lil clover 🍀. It will deliver better results. Handloads or factory.
Great video as usual.
The Bergara MG Lite is a $3+thousand dollar rifle! You have a Trusting Friend!
I appreciate your emphasis on 'affordable'. I was watching another video where they interviewed a guy who was in management at one of the scope companies and he said something to the effect that a $3,000 scope is simply not necessary. Because of your more realistic approach to buy reasonably priced guns and scopes, it's pretty obvious that you don't have to spend thousands of dollars on a set-up. That's real encouraging to those of us who don't have unlimited resources to spend on our obsessions. (How many of us have that kind of money.) (I know this is set-up is your buddies, but I'm speaking regarding your videos as a whole. Thanks for keeping it real.
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I know I am coming in late here, but if you start reloading you will find the consistency that the rifle is capable of. Been reloading for 30 years, and loading for 6.5 creed since 2017. Found that it likes 140 gr speer and sierra btsp. Just loaded some 95gr Hornady last week, wow it really does well and significantly less recoil. I am shooting a 12 lds+ Savage Ba110 stealth. Thanks for a informative video.
Excellent flingin stick ! I'll have to stay with my ruger go wild.
Second that!! Put my go wild in a magpul stock!!
6.5cm is a great round. I sighted mine in at 100yrds and even with the cheapest "off the shelf" ammo, it shoots sub moa. Literally putting rounds in the same hole.
I think whatever game he shoots at, if he does his part, will drop. Its a very nice rig.
Super nice rifle Awesome groups at a 100 and those are good at 200 also .I say 95 to 99% of deer in the south east are killed within 100 yards. Been hunting since I was 11 am 57 now hunted in Ga, Ne,Ia, only taken mybe 6 deer between 150 to 450 yards. A ton of deer under 100.
Good to go. Great set up. Ready to hunt. Good idea to bring zero back left. Thank you.
Hornady Black isn’t the best ammo to test zero. You should really consider buying some Hornady 140 bthp bullets(very affordable & widely available) and some H4350 and work a handload up since you are into reloading now.
Nice shooting wtw 👍👍
Nice shooting great job
Hey 1mo is 1.047” so 2.094”@200 can’t be mad bout those groups! Good shootin love the vids never disappointed.
Great video
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching L A
Always great videos, where I hunt in NC, my longest shot has been 80 yards. Way too my trees on my property.
Looking like it's time to make your own custom hand loads.
I'm surprised that the groups opened up so much at 200 yards. But it's still around 1 MOA. Wish your friend luck in his upcoming hunt. Thanks WTW.
You can fine tune them with different torque applied to the actuon screw.
Try it out
Get better groups with my howa 1500 which is surprising using 140 grain. Good shooting though.
Howa 1500 is awesome. I bought one in .243 for my daughter and another one for my son in .308. Both are amazingly accurate.
My Howa HCR 6.5CM shoots bug holes as well. Howa doesn’t get the credit it deserves.
Got the howa 1500 in 6.5 and .308 absolutely love both
That's a really nice rifle. I know what your saying about deer. I have shot one deer over 100 yards in my life and I have taken quite a few.
Why did you not use the best ammo from yesterday🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Because it is Oddball and very uncommon
Man I like that setup. I zero all mine at 200 yards.....
Outstanding,
It would be cool to see your ammo inventory and how much you like to keep around
Where are you finding that Hornady Black? I'm down to my last box and i've only seen it at Academy, and I haven't seen it there in a long time.
That’s the reason I do load development at 200, I find 100 gives a false reading, nice rifle
That 1.17 at 200 is awesome dude!!
Shootin the wings off flies again!? Whatd they ever do to you? 😆👍
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you talked of resetting the scope too zero on the dials. how is this done? so you make the further neccessary adjusments.
Good job
I would like to see follow up test after a couple hundred rounds. Some rifles I have had tighten groups up some don't.
Does another manufacturer make something similar to compare with this ?
I think mirage is coming into play
Good info as usual .
Thanks for watching Alex
Good shooting WTW yep I’ve only killed 3 dear past a hundred yards 2@120 with a muzkzeloader 1@ 120 yd..with rifle lol I’ve killed several
Where do you access the drop chart?
What range is that? I can’t find a range longer than 100 would like to stretch out my DPMS GII 308 to 3-400 yds
I’ll find one somewhere
I have 18 boxes of Hornady black 6.5 creedmoor
Savage Axis precision will do that and less expensive too
I'd love to see you set a rifle up for "point blank range" hunting.
I don't like or necessarily agree with that method. But I could do a video on it
@@WHOTEEWHO thanks. I'll never take a game animal over 350 yards with my 6.5 CM. I have been curious about that method for my trusty 3.5-10 scope with duplex reticle and no dials.
@@WHOTEEWHO That works for the fastest ammo (like .223 ). Up to 350 yards almost "flat fire". Of course, the rig must be good enough precision wise
YOU CAN NOT GO BY PREVIOUSLY SHOT GROUPS AT DIFFERENT RANGES. THE BULLET STRUCTURE CHANGES THE FARTHER YOU SHOOT THEM. KEEP THIS IN MIND TIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT FOR SELF.
WHY ARE WE YELLING!?!?
Mirage will give you all kinds of strange groups. Not sure what power your camera was own but watch you target move and if you have wind you get the double whammy.
Will your ruger 6.5 do that with that scope?
Cold barrel....off center......take 1 shot...wait 3 min...1 shot wait 3 min...1 shot...see how that works
I'm new to long range shooting. I went twice trying to zero my scope but I wasn't able to. One reason is due to several surgeries on my eyes I cannot look through the scope for more than few minutes. After few rounds I completely cannot see the reticle. But I know should be able to do it with few rounds though. It is really bothering me. I'm going to look for a long range precision shooting class hoping it will help me with what I'm doing wrong. It is really bothering me though.
Cool
Will your ruger 6.5 do that?
I avoid chasing windage at 200. If it’s on at 100 and off to the right or left at 200 it’s likely wind . 💨
That rifle should shoot better. You need to accurize that ammo to that particular rifle by adjusting the seating depth. Try a 100th each way out and in and then re-test and I'd bet you would close those groups.
The rifle does shoot better. The original test was for factory ammo at 100 yds. He did much better with all but one brand at well under 1 MOA, at least one at under 0.5 MOA. He made it clear the tests are for hunting, not bench rest precision, so factory only, no hand loads. In another video, he said he does not hand load.
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If that's the case the rifle should be zeroed with the ammo to be used.
@@beefcakes27 I think you missed the point. Watch the first video, testing various factory loads at 100 yards. Maybe I'm missing your point.
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LOLOLOLOLOL 😆
I think you missed the point by your inability to accept comments you don't agree with...
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You need to realize 98% of the people Out There Our deer hunters and they buy Factory ammo that is really good for both
Need you to sight in some of my rifles just sayin lol give you sum more content. Here in ktown
What is ktown
@@WHOTEEWHO Knoxville TN lol
If you sight your gun in at 50 yards about an inch and a half to inches high how far you think the zero is good for
Have to try it to see but my guess would be also zeroed at 250 or so
In the house
:( many of us are moa, it would have been nice to translate?
correct if me if 'm wrong, mils x 3.4 = moa?
What do you prefer, mils or moa adjustments?
Mils
That would drive down into the hurt locker at 200yds for sure …. You should have no problem
What ballistic app do you use to get your drop chart?
Shooters calculator dot com
@@WHOTEEWHO thank you sir!
What grip id on the Rifle?
My two cents 7mm-08 is the way to go.............
Strech to 300 up to 500 yd. We would love to see the grouping.
Hi
If you use gray paper it will be easier on the camera........
Only problem with carbon barrel is they start losing accuracy when hot
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I sight all my big bangs in at 200 unless it's my hunting rifle not going to be taking shots past 100-150
I have seen that before. Great groups at 100 yds., sort of OK at 200. I think it is part psychological and part practice. Get used to shooting 200 yds. and see whether there is improvement. I asked a long range competitor about it and he said most people use too much scope at 100 yds and don't have enough zoomies left to double the magnification for 200. I shoot 100 yds. with 4x so I had not thought about the scope being a factor.
Your drop chart shows you that you can sight-in 2 in. high at 100 yds, and be on at 200. I bet if you sighted 4 in. high at 100, you'd be point blank for deer past 300. In real life, I'm like you: my deer are within 60 yds. usually. Where I hunted last year, the range finder said the longest possible shot was 87 yds.
A heavier gun I will only shoot long range. The heavier the gun the better to me.
Interesting that nitch for a lighter 6.5 Creed for easier carry in the field. 👍🏻
It blows my mind how much this caliber drops
Lol 😆 can't believe they called it MG lite 🤣 next the politicians will want to outlaw it saying its a lite machine gun.
Outstanding! That rifle and ammo are very accurate but not for hunting.
All of those are deer on the plate.
What kind of man gives his rifle to another man too shoot and zero? Blasphemy! 😂
Doesn't seem to shoot any better than my 2019 6.5 creedmoor Approach rifle at probably $1500 cheaper. Same action and trigger, just everything else is different
Your scope no 100% on the level I think 🤔
Mmmmmm
That, is a very sexy slinger of boolots. Love me some carbon fiber goodness.
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Tired of hearing about 6.5 creedmore, it’s on every channel about shooting or rifles