Six Brown Inks And Six Ways To Use Them
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video I show you six of my Favorite Brown inks, and show you six different drawing techniques that can be used with them.
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Here are the inks mentioned in this video. if you'd like purchase them through Amazon, and support my channel, please use these affiliate links:
J. Herbin Terre De Fue: amzn.to/3ZGdSU2
Monteverde Joy: amzn.to/3ZGdSU2
Callifolio Sepia: Available from Vanness Pens
Rohrer & Klingner Sepia: amzn.to/4fmdgsr
Noodler's Brown: amzn.to/3ZYxMel
De Atramentis Document Brown: amzn.to/4gwyLrA
Thank you for your very interesting video! I did not understand what you put on the last ink to turn it into yellow ochre ? Thank you very much 🙏
You're very welcome! I'm using diluted bleach.
so touching, how you brought in that yellow ochre light in the r&k sepia portrait.
that was simply pure magic
@@magdalenaholt2967 that was a lovely discovery. I’m happy you enjoyed it.
Great video! Valuable information and beautiful drawings! Thank you!
I love the Rohrer und Klingner Sketch Inks a lot, because they dry waterproof and have the perfect flow in a pen for sketching. "Jule" is a reddish brown and makes beautifully warm sketches. For cooler atmospheres I use "Frieda", a blue-grey.
@@anjapinkau3737 my pleasure! I actually haven’t tried any of the R&K sketch inks. Will get some soon.
That was the brown fountain pen ink comparison I needed today. I could watch you draw faces all day long, Marc. Thank you so much for all your tutorials
My pleasure! Glad this video came along at just the right time for you.
Marc it's also quite dark in your studio. My word I love sepia as a colour and though not brown or relevant here indigo is a tremendously useful and powerful colour/pigment. Thanks for your interesting and thought provoking video.
@JezIpadski my pleasure! It’s only dark when filming, for dramatic effect ( and to obscure the mess). :)
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....and here's the Brown Ink Comparison video! YAY! Your discussion of archival/non archival inks is appreciated - I've been wondering about that. Watercolor artists can get fanatical about lightfastness in their pigments, so it's been interesting to find the pen and ink community not often discussing lightfastness of inks. Great to see how you work with Document Brown so that a bland, work-a-day ink appears dramatic, and I am going to be trying the white waxy colored pencil underlayer technique for highlights. Thanks for keeping us well-informed about pen and ink materials and techniques! Your grey ink video is a favorite, and now it has a worthy companion.
@@spinningchester6481 my pleasure. I try to bridge the gap between the fountain pen world and the art materials word, but if fountain pens are going to become more popular with artists, ink manufacturers need to become more upfront about their ink formulations, and whether they are archival
@@mkompan - I whole-heartedly agree. I checked out some watercolor books from the public library, and found man of them recommending alizarin crimson, aureolin, and prussian blue as the basic primaries on a palette. One author had examples of their work in that palette that they had sold. I checked the copyright on that book - 1983 - and the other books were all published before 1995. If those original pieces of artwork were displayed on a wall opposite a sunny window without UV filtering glass (which wasn't really a thing in the 1980's) - there isn't much left of those artworks to see now. I wasn't paying attention to pigments in the 1990's and 2000's, but I bet the fanaticism of the watercolor community comes from many angry customers returning expensive vibrant watercolors that had turned pale and grey. My interest in fountain pens filled with ink comes from a desire to get a variety of tones in a limited palette by only carrying a couple of pens. Sure - I have an awesome very compact travel watercolor kit with a limited, highly lightfast palette. Part of being good at watercolor is knowing your palette very well, and that means keeping the palette limited and being a great mixer. My limited palette is ASTM I and II lightfast and my preparatory sketches are prepared with the same pigments as my final artwork - I know how the pigments will work together in the final piece from lessons learned in my sketches, and I never have to worry if someone asks if I will sell them a preparatory sketch. As you know - a couple of fountain pens with mildly water-resistant inks can give water-color effects with a variety of line qualities while solving so many problems of using a watercolor travel palette. But if the inks aren't lightfast.... well, using those inks in a final artwork to offer for sale may come back to bite me later. Dunno. I've got some more research to do on inks before creating original works to sell. Only use fountain pen drawings for scanning and selling prints? Perhaps a UV-filtering spray fixative on original works to sell? A note on the back of my artwork that this artwork was made with ink that may not be archival and needs to be placed behind UV-filtering glass and out of direct sunlight? Should I be creating ink test swatches to leave in sunny windows for a year? So thanks for getting the conversation going, and if anyone in ink development contacts you on this topic, please tell them that you know of at least one customer that wants archival inks with rich color properties and medium water-resistance. To catch the attention of artists selling works professionally, all ink manufacturers need to offer archival lines of fountain pen inks.
And now a demo of Brown ink and Grey wash in landscape drawing! Also a classic! Thank you and best wishes for 2025!
Thank you! That’s on the list of upcoming videos! I was planning on doing a copy of a Claude Lorraine.
Quite the virtuoso demonstration, thank you. I've a liking for walnut ink made from Vandyke crystals, mostly because it's ludicrously cheap - but that's emphatically for dip pen only. It gives impressively tight hairlines on well sized paper if you get the dilution just right.
@@GenWivern2 interesting, using a woodstaining product as ink! I assume you need to add a binder such as gum Arabic or shellac to make it work.
@@mkompan Just water at room temperature works fine. I got through quite a lot of the stuff learning to write passable Spencerian!
@ super interesting. Will order some!
What took the algorithm so long!!! Great stuff Sir, This is the type of channel us amateurs Looooove!!!
Well, glad it finally reached you!Thanks for watching and enjoying.
I'd like to mention a brown ink that may be overlooked due to its unfortunate name: Noodler's Red-Black. I've heard that the name exactly represents its formulation, which is exactly Noodler's Red mixed with Noodler's Black. The rsulting color is a very central brown, not leaning towards yellow, orange, or black. Quite useful.
After pooh-poohing others for being cautious with inks put in their fancier pens, I find myself doing the exact same thing. My KoP has become so precious to me that I feel the need to baby it. This is the one pen I don't put permament inks in, choosing to stick with Sailor inks, specifically 680, which is a very dark, near black shade of brown.
If I had a KOP, I would be cautious too, But so long as pen cleans well, I don't think you have to live in fear. My Pilot 743 and 823 get filled with Carbon ink all the time.
Hi Marc!
The ink with the most accurate Sepia color hue is that of the Rohrer and Klingner one. The others are just B. Sienna browns and you can't consider them as Sepia browns.
Great video!! I love brown inks and have Terre De Feu, but have not used it for sketching (yet). My favorite ink for sketching is Faber Castell Cobalt. This ink is well behaved on paper, including adding water to it on Tomoe River paper. It can separate into lovely aqua and pink hues depending on the paper. Would you consider making a video on your favorite blue inks for drawing and sketching?
Thank you! I’ll take a look at the Faber Castell Cobalt. I live blue ink, but don’t use them all that much for drawing. I sometimes use Pilot Iroshizuku Asa-gao. It’s such a lovely color.
Thanks for the video Marc!! my current brown now is Platinum Pigment Brun Sepia. The ink isn’t even sepia but a lovely chocolate brown 🥰🥰
My pleasure! I love Platinum inks, and will put this one on my wish list.
Thanks, great vid. I use Noodlers Polar Brown for sketching. Its waterproof properties allow for watercolor washes.
My pleasure! I’m almost bought Olar brown just for this review. I’ve heard good things about it, and will have to try it soon.
Wow! I discovered a world! I admire your work and love your language too. A technical and sensitive review on inks colors
@@francesca8325 thank you!
Thank you for an interesting review!Another nice brown ink is Lie de the by Herbin, it also splits up into various interesting shades when used in washes
You're welcome, and thank you for the tip!
Love the sea monsters! Great video, currently looking for a brown ink for drawing, so this is perfect
Thanks so much!
Thank you so much for the bleach technique... however iam also curious about does it devolve the paper overtime?
so touching, how you brought in that yellow ochre light in the r&k sepia portrait.
that was pure magic.
what a visually stunning and perfectly organised film.
i'm already on my third watching.
thank you✨
@@magdalenaholt2967 thank you. Happy to share them.
For me your channel is the most informative for fountain pen ink please keep it up color verse has a brown called coffee break I like it a lot
@@TheNick-k9m thank you! I’ll look into this Coffee Break ink.
Fabulously informative video. What excites me is how you use the wash layer to inspire drawings that are so lively and fresh. Every one of your videos and workshops has helped me stretch my practice.
Thank you very much Sharon!
WOW-the depth of your techniques/knowledge!
Thank you!
thx so much, Mark .. this was really fascinating !! the deatramentis is a staple for me, as it's one of the few inks that truly is waterproof ( i do a lot of urban sketching , coffee shop sketching, etc) and need a reliable waterproof ink .. I'm also enjoying a rohrer and klinger sketch ink , which is also waterproof ., thx again .. Norakag , here👍👍
You're very welcome! I actually haven't tried R&K sketch ink. Will get some soon!
WOW !! That's a visual treat -- just in time for the holidays. 😊. Always had a nostalgia about brown inks. Ty for this demo. You are just brilliant. Never thought of using bleach or the eraser. Love love love all the techniques. ❤
You're very welcome! Glad you liked the techniques.
Merci beaucoup, ceci est très instructif
@@zaurrange9120 you’re welcome!
This was a fantastic show of out of the box techniques! Thank you Marc.
@@azerilla1 thank you! Happy to share them.
The first sepia is lovely, the rest are mostly too warm for me. The R&K might be nice as a writing ink but I want very water resistant ink for sketching. I use the document ink for line and wash sketch because i just can’t cope with black. If I’m using a dip pen for sketching i’m more likely to go with a brown acrylic ink. I know that won’t move me.
Hi and many thanks for a fascinating video. I'm a huge fan of de atrementis document inks and have the other four shades of brown they do, which are excellent too. Also all these inks are intermixable and there is an ink thinner which allows dilution without losing its archival/waterproof qualities. So there is endless fun to be had there as long as one keeps records of mixes and quantities. (Guess how I found that one out ?)
You're most welcome! De Atramentis is a fantastic company, and I have a number of waterproof inks from them. I haven't thought about mixing them however (other than through layering). I'll have to try it.
Thesse comparison videos that you shared with us are a joy to watch! Though, I don't have as nearly as many types of ink as you do, yet I don't know what does what and which is which. How do you keep track of what is what? Do you have an archive of what ink does what? Like a notebook of some sorts? If so, any recommendation as how you keep them? paper, type of notebook, system of testing, etc...Looks to me that you have many pens inked up at a time, and many of those pens with ink that requires a flushing every 3 months, what's your routine? BTW, your videos has improved vastly compared to the earlier ones. Very professionally done especially the voice over, format and the way your pronounce different brands. Never knew that was how you suppose to say them! Though many of the ink in this video are not archival quality, your videos are archival quality to me! Thanks for putting so much effort into your videos, Marc.
My pleasure! I'm learning how to put these videos together little by little, and I'm glad people are noticing the improvements. I don't really keep a record of my inks, other than in my head. I have about 30 inks, each different enough from the other that I can keep track of them. Perhaps if my collection increases (and my memory decreases), I'll have to start taking notes. My inks and pens are always tested on the same paper, Strathmore Bristol, a pure white, non-absorbent surface that does a good job showing off the properties of the ink. I try to keep the number of pens I have inked at the same time to a minimum, but it can be as much as ten at a time. Most are filled with water-soluble ink. The pens that have waterproof ink in them are usually ones that get a lot of use, and are flushed frequently. That said, pens do fall through the cracks, and are sometimes left inked for months. In those cases, all that's required is a good soak and some scrubbing to get them going again. Thank's so much for your kind words of support!
Your reply always answered my questions and more! I'm grateful for that. If you love fude nib, especially gold and custom ones, wouldn't be a bad idea to contact Mike Masuyama and send him one of those Broad pilot #15 nib to convert to fude for you. I did and it was the best decision i made-fountain pen wise. Also, if you are looking for a home for those pens, harbor freight have those windsor style wooden toolbox that would make a great pen storage solution under 70 dollars. (20% coupon). Anyhow, Happy Holidays and looking forward to future videos.
@ thanks for the recommendations. I do need more storage for my growing pen collection and that toolbox looks perfect.
Thank you for the amazing insight. Lovely video
@@alexandrerodriguesdesouza8255 you’re very welcome!
This was wonderful. Just what I was looking for. Bless you. A thousand thanks.
@@veronicavleck1704 my pleasure! That’s very kind of you to say.
Have you thought of offering the 'textures' online class as a downloadable class? Thank you
@@juanmarialberdigaritaonand4153 yes! I plan on creating one early next year.
Nice collection of Brown/Sepia inks and paintings/drawings. I am a little bit of a sucker for Sepia inks.
One more to add to your collection (that personally I find interesting) if you ever get the chance - Platinum Ultra Pigment Brun Sepia.
Thanks! I love Platinum inks and will have to try their Sepia. I watch your channel frequently and it's great!
@@mkompan Pleasantly surprised to read you have been watching my channel - thank you Marc! 💗
Me encantó!! Eres sabio , investigas... gracias!!!!!!
@@miguelcarreroquesada2728 es un placer, Miguel!
positively stunning. mesmerising. thank you.
@@magdalenaholt2967 my pleasure! Thank you for the kind compliments.
Amazing video, amazing talent.
Thank you!
Delightful!
@@effy2848 thank you!
Thanks, Marc. That's a great review of the inks, and the bleach trick is certainly worth a try.
Have you tried Noodler's #41 Bulletproof Brown ? I can't find the standard brown in the UK but #41 is available. I normally use roughly an 80:20 mix of Diamine Saddle Brown and Ochre, but I'd like something with a bit more water resistance.
Thanks again for a great review 🙂
@@daveh3339 my pleasure! I almost bought Noodler’s Brown 41 for this review, but decided to go only with ink I have been using for some time, as opposed to showing an ink I’m not familiar with.
@@mkompanMaybe I’ll see if Santa is taking last-minute requests and get a bottle of #41. Thank you for all of your videos throughout 2024. I wish you and your family a happy and peaceful Christmas, and a successful 2025.
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Love your videos!❤ Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Thank you! Best holiday wishes in return.
Thanks! That was exactly what I was looking for. I like the Callifolio Sepia, just wished that it was a bit more water resistent. I’m gonna check it out anyway, if I can but it Here in the Netherlands.
You’re welcome. For waterproof inks, DeAtramentis has a Sepia brown that looks quite nice, similar to the Callifolio sepia. I don’t have it, but all their inks behave superbly.
Beutiful!
Thanks!
P.S I wish you a lovely Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
@@veronicavleck1704 thank you! Best holiday wishes in return.
Is bleach acidic ?
it's actually the opposite, highly alkaline.
I will check. If aliki that's great !