You're welcome fam. Apologies for not shouting your name out fam. I was trying to find the comment you made about these two. It was all because of you.
I moved to NY from the Bahamas and was told by this scout I was better than Telfair.....didn't even get a chance to play for my school. Even worse I had a scout tell me IN the Bahamas he saw Jason Kidd & at 15 I was far ahead of him. So in a perfect world I am an all star PG fringe HOFer or a vet that had a lengthy career 😩 my game was Kemba/Kryie in 97-99 I never got a chance to hoop much after the summer of 2000
Patrick Sparks.....Louisville versus Kentucky pressure free throws to close out the game. Big time UL fan I watched the darius Washington game and telfair was supposed to go to the cards but was the first high schooler drafted under I think 6'2". Great video keep it up, no substitute for hard work. Also pitino recruited telfair over rondo because of his jump shot. Rondo wanted to go to the cards bad but Ricky P didn't want him.
We don't need to see that bust man. He was heavily documented on ESPN. I think players like Telfair and Curry was the reason the NBA stop this straight from Highschool to the pros.
Coming out of high school, I thought Sebastian Telfair & Darius Washington would have better NBA careers. At least Telfair played 10+ seasons in the NBA and Washington played 10+ seasons overseas.
Telfair was a 5’10 PG with no jump shot that carved out a decade in the NBA- I would say he lived up to all expectations. Basketball people know he had a limited skill set because he was drafted in the mid first round. PG were being drafted much higher that had a higher ceiling.
Sebastian telfair screwed up by not going to louiville and playing with garcia. he need to develop his shot and decision making (was advanced for high school but was still limited) and his maturity. Louiville had a squad that year. he wouldve been great and probably went to a better situation than teh blazers.
Another name... Flip Murray! Very promising as a rookie, an amazing performance during the rookies vs sophomores game outplaying Carmelo Anthony and LeBron... and then a below average career...
Washington never bounced back after that missed FT vs my Cards....good player but yeah that 2nd year killed him! Now Telfair...yes could have used one year of NCAA but i cant blame dude for chasing that cash! If you watch Thru the Fire you will see why he took that money. He never developed a jumper and never landed in the right situation...at least he getting that NBA pension tho
They were never too short or couldn't shoot good enough for their positions. They simply couldn't ever adjust to playing NBA level b-ball over an 82 game schedule, the way Rajon Rondo, J.J. Barea, Chris Paul, Nate Robinson and other small guards were able to.
These ballers in college and high school were beasts back then like telfair Darius Mohammed Adam Morrison teddy dejuan these were all ballers who would have been to the nba but off court issues and injuries including Greg oden
Washington missing at the FT line isn't why he didn't have a fruitful NBA career. DRose choked at the FT line while at Memphis, too. His skill set simply wasn't good enough.
Telfair pretty much became a journeyman in the NBA during his career. He's one of the few cases where I think one or two years in college would've helped his career. But if you're projected as a lottery pick coming straight out of high school, you can't fault the young man. I'm a UofL fan and would've loved to see him play for the Cards and have him play with that team, but like I said, if you're projected as a lottery pick it seemed like a great decision at the time.
How come you don’t do a stunted growth episode instead of basketball players how about why some power house basketball hs produce more successful players in the nba than others
Well these new private schools or Oak Hill type schools have advantages. Because they can get players from all over. But I agree about some of these top notch Public Schools tho.
Being from NY I know all about the Telfair hype. He was the first Point Guard from High School to the Pros. PG is the toughest position in Basketball, something he wasn't ready for. Only point guard I can see making that transition is probably Ben Simmons if he went straight from high school.
It depends on what your definition of bust is. He was a lottery pick and only averaged 7pt and 4 assists a game and played for 8 teams in his 13 year career. His career was ok, but as a lottery pick, not really.
Yea bro. Dude brought it on himself though. He had a serious misinterpretation of what this world was. He thought he could do anything simply because he made it to the NBA. Not understanding the responsibilities of that. Seriously immature person that didn't have the right people around him along with so many gold digging women that hindered his life! He needed a sit down. And the way he acted in court was just embarrassing to see a guy of that statue who hasn't learned anything in life. He'll come out better and move forward.
Bruh you are dead on about players Washington couldn't play point-guard however he was athletic and Telfair couldn't shoot and not athletic plus both guards are undersize. I never thought either player was that good, they were just better than their competition in high school.
His NBA hopes didnt dry up with them misses. He was only 6'1 and was a combo guard. Wasnt a true pt guard or true shooting guard. He was a lousy outside shooter. That the truth. At least Telfair was a true point. Both believed the hype so much but neither were going to be much more than backups in the league at best. Telfair was better because he had a true position.Shaun Livingston was a 6'7 pg and was a much bigger prospect than both of these guys but had basically a career ending injury that he came back from to win a couple rings with Golden State as an excellant bench player.
The reason darius’s numbers went down his sophomore year at Memphis was because that team was loaded. I dont think coming back hurt his draft stock. He didnt play any competition his freshman year but in his sophomore year he lead Memphis to the sweet 16 or the elite 8. For him it all came down to his size,lack of athleticism and like u said at the end of the video,he really wasnt a pg. Kinda reminds me of aj abrams that played for Texas around that time. Homie was playing sg putting up crazy numbers alongside dj augustin and i think he was on that team with KD but dude was barely 6 feet playing sg. No way that was gonna translate to the pros.
Telfair had a 12 year NBA career that an that not bad but he was suppose to be really good,Washington just never got to the level from that free throw at Memphis u.
Never understood the hype with Telfair. Even going back to high school, yes he was a good player, but I never thought he was as good as Kenny Anderson or Marbury in high school. More points don't mean you're a better player.
Thank You Bradda!!
You're welcome fam. Apologies for not shouting your name out fam. I was trying to find the comment you made about these two. It was all because of you.
I call it finish what you started
Met Telfair at the airport once real humble dude his documentary inspired me when I was a kid
I watched Through the fire before every single bball game in high school
Errybody in Memphis remember Darius Washington after that Louisville game with a chance to go to the tourney...😪
Yeahhhh he went Nick Anderson and didn't hit his free throws
Lol SG. "Ego boosted to Goku levels at this point." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😅😅😅😅
When D Wash missed them free throws smh he was never the same
Poor Darius I was watching it live in Memphis when it happened
Wow I remember these two guys both of them were Way Beyond their time and just great basketball players.
Let video bro 🔥🐐do Damon Harge or Jashaun Agosto next, they was cold back then fr
Telfair was my favorite player in high school. Wish he would've dominated college for 2 years. Don't blame him for taking the millions though.
I don't know if he applies but do you remember Victor Page who was the second star at Georgetown with Allen Iverson?
Yup I remember
I remember watching those FTs. Super high pressure situation. Felt bad for him. Telfair was our(Brooklyn's) Hopes and dreams man.
Just stumbled on your channel about a week ago bro cold content keep it up 💯
I moved to NY from the Bahamas and was told by this scout I was better than Telfair.....didn't even get a chance to play for my school. Even worse I had a scout tell me IN the Bahamas he saw Jason Kidd & at 15 I was far ahead of him. So in a perfect world I am an all star PG fringe HOFer or a vet that had a lengthy career 😩 my game was Kemba/Kryie in 97-99 I never got a chance to hoop much after the summer of 2000
Telfair should have taken his ass to college for the collegiate experience
Patrick Sparks.....Louisville versus Kentucky pressure free throws to close out the game. Big time UL fan I watched the darius Washington game and telfair was supposed to go to the cards but was the first high schooler drafted under I think 6'2". Great video keep it up, no substitute for hard work. Also pitino recruited telfair over rondo because of his jump shot. Rondo wanted to go to the cards bad but Ricky P didn't want him.
Good insight. Thank you bro
Great video! Keep it up, you are dropping banger after banger
My guy. Appreciate that fam
I remember watching they high school game against each other on ESPN
Sebastian was such a goat in school he deserves his own stunted growth they were beer on the same level lol
Definitely remember this discussion back then
Possibly a video on Eddy Curry?
We don't need to see that bust man. He was heavily documented on ESPN. I think players like Telfair and Curry was the reason the NBA stop this straight from Highschool to the pros.
Dope vid wasn’t the 11th pic though lol
Kmasefitness 13th right?
Telfair screwed Rick Pitino over and paid with his career. You see kids, college does have its advantages.
Great vid
Thank you bro!
You really Listen to Ya Supporters
Always man. Appreciate every last one
Yu ever heard of Fran fraschilla... Yu might be nxt up with all that overseas footage keep it up...
#FORGOTTEN SOLDIERS
Yo keep this up bro I been a fan since your first couple videos
I will bro. That's love fam ✌🏾
Coming out of high school, I thought Sebastian Telfair & Darius Washington would have better NBA careers. At least Telfair played 10+ seasons in the NBA and Washington played 10+ seasons overseas.
Allen Ray? Damn, haven't heard tht name in a brikc mane.. boutta see if I can find sum clips on him!
R.I.P NaybahoodNip great video bro!!
Great channel! How about Eddie Curry and Marcus Fizer?
Yo fam you gotta do Sean Dockery
It would be cool if you did a vid on "Randy Livingston". He was a beast at Arkansas.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Watched “Through the Fire” religiously.
Telfair was a 5’10 PG with no jump shot that carved out a decade in the NBA- I would say he lived up to all expectations. Basketball people know he had a limited skill set because he was drafted in the mid first round. PG were being drafted much higher that had a higher ceiling.
When you get a sneaker deal outta high school you kinda gotta do more than have a avg career fam
Props for the intro.
Still messed up about that 😢Loved dude.
Demarr Johnson next.....he could’ve left after his junior year of high school
@Matthew Wiley he went to MCI and then Cincinnati. I know yall know about real basketball cuz Demarr was a forgotten prodigy
Darius Washington was crazy in hs.
Can I get a Kareem Reid !!!!!! “Best Kept Secret”
You should do the 2015 big ten freshman melo Trimble , James Blackmon jr and dlo
Why don’t u make a video about your stunted growth
Got you fam
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Sebastian telfair screwed up by not going to louiville and playing with garcia. he need to develop his shot and decision making (was advanced for high school but was still limited) and his maturity. Louiville had a squad that year. he wouldve been great and probably went to a better situation than teh blazers.
Another name... Flip Murray! Very promising as a rookie, an amazing performance during the rookies vs sophomores game outplaying Carmelo Anthony and LeBron... and then a below average career...
Good one...
Ooooo Flip Was Cold
This game still hurts.....
Dwash is a Florida god when it comes to basketball and bassy had all the hype at a yung age I got the slam mag with him n bron on it …
Washington never bounced back after that missed FT vs my Cards....good player but yeah that 2nd year killed him! Now Telfair...yes could have used one year of NCAA but i cant blame dude for chasing that cash! If you watch Thru the Fire you will see why he took that money. He never developed a jumper and never landed in the right situation...at least he getting that NBA pension tho
keep making the vids
Do Cezar Guerrero those ballislife tapes were groundbreaking
At least sebastian made the NBA thats more than alot of these guys accomplish.
Exactly. 10+ years in Nba and 3 or 4 overseas. Plus he made millions
Another suggestion: DeShawn Stevenson! I am out here dropping names for you man! 😂
They were never too short or couldn't shoot good enough for their positions. They simply couldn't ever adjust to playing NBA level b-ball over an 82 game schedule, the way Rajon Rondo, J.J. Barea, Chris Paul, Nate Robinson and other small guards were able to.
Dope af
These ballers in college and high school were beasts back then like telfair Darius Mohammed Adam Morrison teddy dejuan these were all ballers who would have been to the nba but off court issues and injuries including Greg oden
Can we get a Joe Crawford from uk stunted growth?
Washington missing at the FT line isn't why he didn't have a fruitful NBA career. DRose choked at the FT line while at Memphis, too.
His skill set simply wasn't good enough.
Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
My guy Remy. What's good!
Malik Hairston and Joe Crawford had the D on lock then...04 was a good year
Wait - Bassy played for 12 years?! Doesn't seem like it. Seemed like half that. 6 years. Never heard of Darius Washington in my life...
Telfair pretty much became a journeyman in the NBA during his career. He's one of the few cases where I think one or two years in college would've helped his career. But if you're projected as a lottery pick coming straight out of high school, you can't fault the young man. I'm a UofL fan and would've loved to see him play for the Cards and have him play with that team, but like I said, if you're projected as a lottery pick it seemed like a great decision at the time.
Darius Washington was the truth
Peyton Siva Stunted growth
Good one.
How come you don’t do a stunted growth episode instead of basketball players how about why some power house basketball hs produce more successful players in the nba than others
Well these new private schools or Oak Hill type schools have advantages. Because they can get players from all over. But I agree about some of these top notch Public Schools tho.
Telfair played at least 10yrs in the league.... Can't to many ppl say that.
Facts
I wish D wash would have gone to north carolina, kentucky or duke i believe he has a long nba career. Something didnt mesh with calipari
What about Julius page from Pittsburgh dude use to take off on people
Bro do Steven Logan from Cincinnati bearcats
Do Adam Morrison
I could imagine you doing Sabastian lol
So many people did him, so I had to do it a little different.
Being from NY I know all about the Telfair hype. He was the first Point Guard from High School to the Pros. PG is the toughest position in Basketball, something he wasn't ready for. Only point guard I can see making that transition is probably Ben Simmons if he went straight from high school.
Great point
he wasnt the 1st, not even in his draft, Shaun Livingston was picked 3rd
He was in the league for 10 years
No it would have been Kenny Anderson
Damien Kirksey Wow you went all the way back.
Do Stanley Johnson
I did bro. Check it. The REVISITED coming soon though.
They both played in the league. No bust at all.
It depends on what your definition of bust is. He was a lottery pick and only averaged 7pt and 4 assists a game and played for 8 teams in his 13 year career. His career was ok, but as a lottery pick, not really.
He was dafted 13th overall not 11 (bassy)
Bro did you see what just happened to Sebastian?
Yea bro. Dude brought it on himself though. He had a serious misinterpretation of what this world was. He thought he could do anything simply because he made it to the NBA. Not understanding the responsibilities of that. Seriously immature person that didn't have the right people around him along with so many gold digging women that hindered his life! He needed a sit down. And the way he acted in court was just embarrassing to see a guy of that statue who hasn't learned anything in life. He'll come out better and move forward.
@@stuntedgrowth Yea you can take a man out the hood but can neve take the hood out the man. It's sad tho
How bout Jabari Parker?
Bruh you are dead on about players Washington couldn't play point-guard however he was athletic and Telfair couldn't shoot and not athletic plus both guards are undersize. I never thought either player was that good, they were just better than their competition in high school.
Yeah Washington had no left hand. He was just so much faster than everyone else
How bout julius hodge or sean may or Rashard mccants, n with happen to marking Williams brother
Do Ricky Ledo
I think Talfair not going to school was the best possible thing for for him.
Explain?
Do a James young video
His NBA hopes didnt dry up with them misses. He was only 6'1 and was a combo guard. Wasnt a true pt guard or true shooting guard. He was a lousy outside shooter. That the truth. At least Telfair was a true point. Both believed the hype so much but neither were going to be much more than backups in the league at best. Telfair was better because he had a true position.Shaun Livingston was a 6'7 pg and was a much bigger prospect than both of these guys but had basically a career ending injury that he came back from to win a couple rings with Golden State as an excellant bench player.
Should have went to college..5,10, short arms with no hops…. Needed college
Atleast Washington had a solid overseas career. Still plays ball for a living and has made good money I’m sure.
O.J. Mayo
Telfair had a 10+ year Nba career. That's not bad at all
..facts
Rondo is still in the league
Telfair played on like 7 different teams i dont think him being drafted to another team wouldve mattered. He wasnt a good nba player
Will the thrill Bynum, where?
They both was overrated Darius should have stayed at Memphis and Telfair should have went to Louisville
darius is my uncle and im sending him this he is overseas making more money
The reason darius’s numbers went down his sophomore year at Memphis was because that team was loaded. I dont think coming back hurt his draft stock. He didnt play any competition his freshman year but in his sophomore year he lead Memphis to the sweet 16 or the elite 8. For him it all came down to his size,lack of athleticism and like u said at the end of the video,he really wasnt a pg. Kinda reminds me of aj abrams that played for Texas around that time. Homie was playing sg putting up crazy numbers alongside dj augustin and i think he was on that team with KD but dude was barely 6 feet playing sg. No way that was gonna translate to the pros.
Telfair had a 12 year NBA career that an that not bad but he was suppose to be really good,Washington just never got to the level from that free throw at Memphis u.
Washington was never as hyped as Telfair and he didn't have the talent to be an nba starter. Misleading title
He was picked 13th by the trailblazers
Telfair was a lottery pick school wouldnt have done him any good he wouldnt have went higher, he just needed a jump shot coach
Khalid Alamin
Telfair better than Washington
These guys weren’t that good!
Never understood the hype with Telfair. Even going back to high school, yes he was a good player, but I never thought he was as good as Kenny Anderson or Marbury in high school. More points don't mean you're a better player.
Now telfair on his way to prison sad story
He wasn't good enough to small who could he gaurd
Dsmn I would of cryd 2
Nipsey was a thug. I don't support thugs