M93p Series: Best: i7-4770 & GTX 1650 th-cam.com/video/g3jLq8QT2hM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hp0G8ThM9V98nued **#2: GTX 1050, i7-4770, 24GB RAM, 2 x SSD, Exhaust Fan Mod th-cam.com/video/vQOih0cb-Ys/w-d-xo.html** **#3: GT 1030, 16GB RAM, SSD M93p th-cam.com/video/BderaGy5y4I/w-d-xo.html** **Runner Up: M93p case Swap with a GTX 750ti th-cam.com/video/JtHK0FJRINY/w-d-xo.html **Second Runner Up: Case swap with a Quadro 4000 th-cam.com/video/xZ5ArnqXGzA/w-d-xo.html** Thanks for all the comments and feedback :)
@@riggermortisfpv526 Any modern case will work fine. Check out this video for an idea. I haven't shot one yet, but I will soon. th-cam.com/video/L4PPd5hnAok/w-d-xo.html
@@riggermortisfpv526 For sure. What are you planning on installing? I have a couple on the go. One build being i7-4770, GT 1050 low profile, 32GB RAM, new power supply, and a new tower case. So basically just using the M93p motherboard. I have a few to experiment with and refurbish at the moment.
You can upgrade the CPU also, I did that on my M73 that came with a Core i3 3.7 ghz dual core and moved to a Xeon quad core 8 threads 3.4 ghz and the performance improved a lot, also I have my machine with 16 gb of DDR· 1600mhz, a 480 gb SSD and a GT 710 2 gb. Since your machine has two PCI-E 16x you can put and M2 adapter and install a NVME SSD, it is way much faster than the traditional SSD (Sadly I can not do that on my rig because it has only one PCI-E 16x and it is occupied with the GT 710). I would recommend to disconnect the DVD RW unless you really need it frequently, since you added a Graphics card it will come more power (that power supply is not intended for many internal devices).
I used plastic zip ties and fitted it underneath the HDD caddy. Check out this updated video I did: th-cam.com/video/BderaGy5y4I/w-d-xo.html By the way, I have some to sell if you want to check out options from me that might suit your budget or custom job.
@@michaeldoherty2671 I don't get too fancy with builds that are in these mass manufactured towers. They are already pretty spaghetti like from the factory in terms of cable management.
Hello I have some questions pls-pls answer 😅 1.) Can i put a singlefan Asus GTX 750ti without changing the PSU or buying any other wires? 2.) Can I add a 128GB Kingston SSD without using/buying any additional wires or etc? Because I won't remove the stock 500GB HDD 3.) Is the 5.25 Optical DVD Drive replaceable or removable? Pls-pls reply, Your answer is would be worthy as gold...Thank You!🤗 (2)
1) This would work with the stock PSU: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-gtx-750-ti-low-profile-oc.b5381 2) You can add a 128GB SSD of any brand, but you need to purchase 1 x SATA cable to plug from the drive to the motherboard. Also, you need 1 x SATA Y Power Splitter so you can power the drive and keep your existing HDD and Optical Drive powered as well. You could unplug the connections from the optical drive and use those for the SSD, but then you would not have an optical drive to use. 3) The optical drive is completely optional. If you use it, keep it. If not, like I said in #2 you can unplug the SATA connections and use those for the SSD. I recommend installing Windows to the SSD and using the HDD as storage. Follow the directions in this video to install it all. Good luck.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Oh I forgot to ask this earlier I'm sorry but can I fit the 128GB SSD along with the Stock HDD? I mean is their an extra slot or something....😅this is the last one thank-you!
@@shinkishimoto7607 No worries, feel free to ask questions. Just like in my video, you can use something like a plastic tie wrap to fasten it below the HDD. Once you take a look, be creative and you'll find a place to put it. It's crowded and it might look messy, but it's not like you'll be forced to look at it when it's enclosed in a tower case.
@@shinkishimoto7607 There is a front intake fan and the CPU fan has a plastic shield that distributes the air as a type of exhaust. There is extra fan connections on the motherboard, but you would really have to squeeze an extra fan in unless you migrated to a larger case.
Thanks a lot for this video. I am trying to upgrade my pc which is the same one which you have shown here. However, how can you add both HDD and SSD. I am not seeing space for both. It's either of them. I already have a 500 gb HDD. How can I add a SSD now. I want both
You can seat the SSD in front of the intake fan. Just use something like electrical tape to fasten it to the case. Then, there will be a bit of cooling from the fan and it's out of the way from the HDD. Or use tie straps to fasten it under the HDD. Use a SATA Y Splitter to get power to both drives. Check out this for an example: th-cam.com/video/BderaGy5y4I/w-d-xo.html
Windows 7 product keys activate Windows 10. So no need to purchase a copy of Windows 10 if you have a Win 7 one already. Do you need help downloading the Win 10 .iso to create a bootable Win 10 USB?
@@HaisteComputerRepair thank you! I think I can handle the installation side. I recall that the Windows 10 upgrades were cut off at some point. Good to see that they still offer it cost free.
Yes you can. First, though, are you planning on keeping the same SFF tower case or migrating to a larger case? Check out this for SFF: www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/496 I've never used one, but this video demonstrates install in a M91p: th-cam.com/video/yJbpWaZypO4/w-d-xo.html
You can fit the "low profile" version of these cards into this tower. If any of the cards are larger and require a power connector from the power supply, you will need to migrate to a larger tower case and get a compatible power supply.
Those cards would probably work well, just you would need the low profile version or a larger case to migrate to. The GTX 1050 ti low profile would be nice www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gtx-1050-ti-low-profile.b4295 Check out the video I have pinned in the comments for some good suggestions and a better gaming test.
I picked up one of these last week. I'm running a 1050 TI in it. There's no air flow though for this card to breath. Not sure if there's a way to cool it down properly with the limited space. It keeps it in about 96° Celsius
@@Dsuds23 I think any tower case would work. One thing to look out for is alignment with screw holes, but most are universal. I have installed M93p setups into a random assortment of cases. Modern cases and cases from a decade ago. Front USB connection types would be important to consider, as well. I have run into some cases that have a particular connection that not every board supports. I don't have a recommendation, but if you look something up share it here and I'll take a look at it.
Can anyone reccomend a mid-range graphics card that will fit in this system? I don't need anyhting crazy powerful or expensive. I just want something that can run games smoothly on the lowest graphics settings without too much slowdown.
Would an Asus "GTX-750ti Formula OC" fit here? I can't do any bracket change because it has DVI/HDMI/VGA port meanwhile lowpro brackets only has DVI/HDMI holes?
Is that right? Did the low profile brackets come with the card or did you look at third party sellers? That card would be a good fit for the system. The low profile version would just fit, it looks like. Let me know if you try it out or if you find brackets.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Or is it possible to remove the vga port in the gpu? I really looked every single shop they only sell lowpro brackets that only has two holes
@@shinkishimoto7607 Does your card look like this: www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-gtx-750-ti-oc/ Or, can you link to a picture of what your card looks like? If a bracket almost fits, you could always use tin snips to modify it, but that's up to you and how you want it to look.
@@bealyread Haha, that would be awesome, but I doubt they would do that. I do work with a lot of their products and many are fantastic to work with, though.
@@HaisteComputerRepair That machine from 2013..7 years machine but still a-okay..i really want lenovo put this video on their website with titled "Man Still uses our 2013 machine with Upgrades"
Yep, it would likely fit just fine. The board is smaller, so of course not all those PCI slot options would be used. It might help to do some research on what type of front panel USB cables are used and if they will fit on the M93p motherboard.
So long as the motherboard's clear holes for it's screws align with the tower case, yes. This model did have a larger tower case option, so you might even be able to find one that is empty. I would love to get one just for the ease of migration and larger video card option.
You can use a 4GB graphics card in this setup so long as it is Low Profile. Otherwise you would need to migrate to a larger case. I am currently running a 4GB card in a setup with the same 4th gen Intel CPU series.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ooh which 4gb card are you running. I'm looking to get a low profile card upgrade in my i7 m93p and would appreciate knowing what works!
@@jamesshiervlogs2613 You could try something like this: www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/496 It seems a bit expensive, but also somewhat rare, which might be what affects the price.
Yes you can, you will just have to find a Small Form Factor one that fits the tower, unless you plan to migrate it all to a larger tower case. Don't forget you need the low profile version of the graphics card. Check out this video, he lists parts with links to purchase on Amazon: th-cam.com/video/yJbpWaZypO4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ITmare
@@blitzcourt5021 For sure, anyone is welcome to do anything they like. Take the whole thing apart and run it while it's hanging on your wall in pieces :)
I put a bequiet tfx power 2 300w psu and can easy run a gt 1650 low profile. With a pci express extender and some work, we can put a 1660 without change the bequiet 300w psu. But if someone wants to do this mode he can apply any graphics card because with the extender is easy to put a second psu only for the graphics card. Offcoarse that is a little meaningless because it will destroy the perpose of the sff desktop.
@@Ioannis_Tsoumaris That's awesome. I would love to use that power supply. But yeah, you could do something cool with the system. Put it in a different tower case, install everything spread out on a wall, etc. Take any weird Linus Tech Tips idea and run with it. But in the spirit of working with that PSU, maybe just find the best low profile graphics card you can manage.
Hello, I have a lenovo m58p sff and was recently running an AMD 6450 gpu. I'm trying to upgrade to a Nvidia gt1030 Lp gpu as I know its compatible but for some reason my computer doesn't recoqnize it when booted up. I get no video through the card and device manager doesn't see it. What should I do? You seem to know alot about these computers....
I believe a GT1030 should run with the M58, but I have never tried installing one. I would like to, though. What CPU do you have? Have you tried installing the drivers for the GT 1030? It's confirmed that the PCI slot works as you previously had the AMD 6450 installed. Perhaps it's the card. It does happen. I tried installing a Geforce 210 card into an M57 yesterday and had the same issue you have. Check back in after you try downloading the drivers and installing them.
I have the Lenovo thinkcentre m81 tower that has an integrated intel HD 2000 can I remove that and put a ASUS GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB PHOENIX Fan Edition?
Is E93 the same as M93? Mine has a 240W 80+ bronze PSU (china OEM?) Isit worth it to slap a 1050ti on it? Or just swap an ssd n run win10? I got my hands one 1 with win 7 pro and 1tb ssd. i5-4460 8gb ram (but somehow the task manager showed that it's using 3gb on idle.) I want to make it a budget gaming PC but if i cant then i would want it to have resellable value like win10 n office installed...
If you have the budget or find a cheap GT 1050ti I would go for it. Look for an i7-4770 CPU to swap out for the i5 and you will have a nice little tower. If you check out my other M93p videos I have tried out this configuration with good results.
I would judge that yes, it is. A quick internet search and someone turned the M93p tiny version into a hackintosh: www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/cii02m/tinytosh_lenovo_m93p_tiny_hackintosh_success/
Can i fit an Asus GT1030 Low Profile in this computer without changing the bracket? Because it has a DVI port instead of VGA port which the small bracket has
how to clean install windows 10 in this build i accidentally installed win 11 in my computer and want to go back to win 10 but i cant because i exceeded the 90days period i think and also for some reason i cant open bios settings
Are you familiar at all with making a Windows 10 USB boot drive? support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d
Good Video! I also have this machine and I have found that the integrated graphics are actually better than the GT 710 GPU. That said, kind of crap for gaming. HOWEVER, I now have a GTX 1050ti in mine and it runs new games quite well! I recommend!
Awesome! The GPU I installed in this video is not a good choice, for sure. I have another video where I installed a GTX 1050 and I agree it's quite nice.
Are you sure it's a M93p? M93p's shipped with 4th gen Intel "Haswell" CPU's. 3rd Gen Intel "Ivy Bridge" was the Thinkcentre M92p. Double check the ad or send me a link and I'll check it out.
Nice, that's good to know all that is compatible. A better CPU would definitely pair well with the gtx 1060. Just be sure to upgrade to a compatible CPU. Look up your current one on somewhere like techpoerup.com and compare to make sure it would work. Post back here to update if you ever do it.
Just got this pc came with a 16gb ram,128 gb m.2 ssd,1 tb hdd it has the i5 3.2 ghz i want to us this pc for gaming specifically i want to case swap it and get a good ghraphics card for it any recomendations...and maybe suggestions on any other upgrades?thanks.
That's cool. Do you have some kind of adapter for that M.2 SSD? SATA adapter or PCI card adapter? Check out the pinned comment for some ideas, specifically the GeForce GTX 1650 if you have the budget. Let me know what you end up using and let me know about that m.2 SSD, I'm curious.
I have a Thinkcentre E73 SFF which has the 4 gen intel cpu. It has got I5-4440S, 16gb ram, 256 SSD and Intel 4600. What motherboard does the M93P have?
Yep, you would just need to upgrade the power supply (300W min according to techpowerup) and either migrate the system into a larger case or get some PCIe cable extenders and let the GPU hang out.
Just upgraded mine and upgraded memory to 32GB I wish I could upgrade the power supply from the stock 240 Watt to 300 Watt or greater. Any suggestions? Great video, thanks!
Yes, it should work fine. I sold one of these towers to someone who then installed one. I haven't seen it in action, but he told me it works. Hope that helps! Looks like it will fit, either way.
I think I installed some Samsung 2GB 10600U - 09 - 11 - 81 DDR3 RAM. 1333 MHz. It came with a 4GB stick of the same configuration. I generally buy used or "refurbished" RAM wherever I can get a deal in bulk. Online buy and sells local to Canada and places like eBay. Just make sure it's DDR3. Generally, I don't pay more than $10 for a stick of 2GB. As for speed, look for 1333MHz or better if you can. Hope that helps!
Yes definitely. It would help to at least invest in the 128GB SSD, keep a HDD for storage and running games, and get up to 8GB RAM. So, I guess a better response would be to ask what you currently have running or what is in the one you are looking at purchasing? Btw, I just tested a Radeon Pro Wx 3200 4GB and it's a nice boost for what came out to $180CAD as a trade in from a customer. Go here: www.pcgamebenchmark.com/ Enter in the CPU info, Intel HD 4600, and whatever RAM you have. It will give you an idea, but just remember that higher end games won't run that well.
Bro I have purchased lenovo m93p 4gb ram i5 processor.but very very slow.i need multiple virtual machine run in this pc.so can I purchase 4gb ram and 2gb graphics card for better speed performance? And need ssd?
First step should be the purchase of an SSD or two, depending on what you need. RAM next. If you can get either 4 x 2GB DDR3 1333MHz or 1600MHz. Or, 2 x 4GB for dual channel 8GB. 4 x 4GB for 16GB is good too. Last should be the 2GB graphics card. You may not need it right away for running virtual machines. Look for a 2GB DDR5 Low Profile Graphics card like the GT 1030. Where in the world do you live? I may have something you need in stock.
Excelente video, justo voy a actualizar una ThinkCentre M93, me guiaré con tu video, solo tengo una duda, cual es el cable para alimentar el otro disco duro??
Thank you! The graphics card I install is not a great match for the system, let me know if you want recommendations for better ones. Look up "SATA Y splitter 90 degrees" on eBay. That is the cable you need along with another SATA cable. They are both pretty cheap if you don't mind ordering from China and waiting.
It is a bit better, I just had the card around for testing. I was thinking it would be nice to have extra display options. I could have done a comparison and maybe I will. Thanks again for the feedback.
In the SFF case, there's only really room for one unless you take out the optical drive. But, up to three SATA connections if you remove the optical drive and find the space.
hai bro can i know, i have same pc model like you, i little bit confuse about ram, which model i need to buy like (PC3L-12800) OR JUST PC3-12800)? and how many slot can use? can i buy like 4x4gb? sory bruh i newbie here hahah
10 of these towers shipped to me with 4GB 1Rx8 PC3L-12800U-11-11-A1 RAM sticks. You can definitely install 4 x 4GB sticks. In fact, that would be awesome :)
i have this pc with 4gb ram ddr3 1600mhz from lenovo and i want to upgrade to 8bg do i have to buy just 4gb ddr3 or i have to buy 8 and remove lenovo ram (edit : i buy a gt 1030 for this )
Nice video card choice. Take a look at the label printed on your RAM that is already installed and Google what speed it is in MHz. Then find some DDR3 RAM to install. I have installed various configurations with various brands and they all tend to work. Match up brands if you can though, or buy RAM in sets. Main thing to consider is the speed. You could end up installing one stick with less speed and the system will automatically run all RAM at that speed. Upgrade to 16GB if you can, to match the ferocity of the 1030 :)
A new CMOS battery? Just make sure you disconnect the power cable. Replacing the battery should not require any diagnostic work, unless there is an underlying issue. Let me know how it goes.
Check out this link: support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/pd011085 I have the Intel® Core i5-2400 Processor installed. tinyurl.com/y2l6zegr Look up your current CPU here and then cross reference the specs with what you want to put in. Safe bet is probably the Lenovo documentation. Let me know how it goes.
Are you looking to keep the Small Form Factor Case? Search for "Small Form Factor Power Supply" or "SFX Power Supply" on somewhere like Amazon and you'll find some options. Might help to measure beforehand. Like this: www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Factor-Modular-Certified-Warranty/dp/B01CGI5M24/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=small+form+factor+power+supply&qid=1626891783&sr=8-4
@@HaisteComputerRepair much the same as your build, an SSD & a cheap GPU (GT 710). I'm going throw on an aftermarket CPU fan (for no particular reason, just for the fun of it haha). Just waiting for the parts now. Should be an enjoyable little build :)
@@vonwolfeo Nice. The GT 210 I installed was just because I had it around my shop. I wouldn't recommend that unless someone really wanted HDMI or something. I didn't really make that clear in the video. A 710 would be much better, I have one on order as well and will probably shoot a follow up video. Good luck!
@@HaisteComputerRepair My build is complete! Super impressed with the GT 710, I wasn't expecting much performance, but honestly it's a little nugget! I love it! haha
For sure, just be mindful that some larger cases / power supplies may not have the same plugs required to power certain things on the motherboard. Ex: USB ports on the tower case, power plug cables, number of fans, etc. Just do your research and you should be fine. I have done this before and had success.
Yes it can, but you would need to transfer everything to a larger case or try to use a cable adapter. Or do some modifications to the SFF case to fit a large card. Check out this case swap I just uploaded, which will show you what to do: th-cam.com/video/JtHK0FJRINY/w-d-xo.html
can i keep the hdd thats in the thing already and just put the ssd above it or under or do i need a new hdd too? also would a 1650 LP work with this build
Yes, you can keep the HDD and install the SSD as a boot drive. You need 1x SATA Y power splitter and 1 x SATA cable to power both drives unless you want to remove the cables from the optical drive and not use that anymore. The video shows how to do this. If you need to back anything up or retain the Windows key, do that before wiping the HDD and installing Win 10 to the SSD. Both cables I have sourced from eBay for less than $5 CAD. As for the 1650 low profile, I think it would work. The M93p has PCI E 3.0 and according to this site the card is PCI Express 3.0. Also, it's rated as 75W, so you would probably be ok with the stock 240W power supply. Keep in mind this is my speculation, I haven't tried it myself. Let me know if you do, I would love to find out. www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-gtx-1650-low-profile-gddr6#spec
founded out someone selling these lenovo sff's cheaper than the dell optiplex 9020's lol. To my eyes, the only physical difference is that the motherboard on the Lenovo has 2 slots, and the Dell Optiplex 9020 has 4. I found a guy selling these lenovo machines (i5-4690) cheaper than the 9020's (i5-4570) lol.
You must have the Tiny version of a ThinkCentre? The M93p in this video has 4 dimm slots, as well as majority of the SFF models. Did you end up getting one?
@@HaisteComputerRepair I got the M73 Sff tower, works fine. Great for light gaming such as minecraft, roblox. Now I'm saving money for a graphics card lol
@@syaz4380 That's where price is involved. Keep an eye out for GT 1030 low profile. It would be a nice boost and they aren't terribly expensive as compared to anything even slightly more powerful.
Not unless someone is selling one with it installed. You can buy a pci-e wireless network card, though. Just make sure it comes with a low profile bracket to fit in the SFF case.
Yes definitely. I believe some of the cards here would work for you: www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=low+profile+pci-express&N=100158094&IsNodeId=1&Ntk=all&name=Wireless+Adapters&isdeptsrh=1
Strange. Did you install any particular software recently before this started happening? Can you 1)try plugging the keyboard into another device to see if it happens there 2)try booting into safe mode, see if it still won't stop 3)try system recovery aka system restore point if you have one set up.
Many times, with many different systems, one or two beeps is normal. It means the system is posting and booting the operating system. Sometimes you can disable in BIOS. What are the specs on yours?
@@HaisteComputerRepair for example, powering it on I hear the 2 beeps, then there’s a splash screen that says press f1 for setup or f2 to resume, pressing f2 continues to windows and then it operates normally.
That's a good question about Sharkbay, I'll have to double check the next time I set one up. That wasn't on my mind at all, so thanks for asking. Yes, I have had reports that those graphics cards do work with these systems :)
Check out this page for specs and socket type: www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-4570.html Check out this list www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i5/i5-4570.html The Lenovo page lists two CPU options www.lenovo.com/ca/en/desktops/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/m93-m93p/ I'm sure someone has posted a video on TH-cam or elsewhere on a good upgrade option. It looks like the i7-4790 might be a good choice. Let me know how you make out :)
With the fan shroud, I think it at least allows heat to passively come out of the rear. I have installed small exhaust fans before and the thermals are much better. Depends on what you are doing with it. When I installed an i7-4770 and GTX 1050ti, the extra exhaust fan mod helped a lot.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Where did you manage to install an exhaust fan, space is tight? You don't mean the front fan right? I'm torn betwen buying this or an HP 800 G1 where the CPU fan exhausts directly to the back of the case but where there is only one fan.
@@jbol2454 I shot a video of me mounting the fan here th-cam.com/video/GYew4MwHxMg/w-d-xo.html It's a little long winded, but you can skip to parts you want to see. Another alternative is swapping into a larger case and installing different hardware. I also did some videos on that if you want some ideas.
You would have to migrate everything over to a larger tower case. But, can I ask what you are planning to install or do with it? If it's a project or just for fun, etc. Migrating everything for just that power supply might not be worth it unless you're also installing the best graphics card the system can handle and upgrading the CPU. Not to dismiss the idea, by all means. If you do it let me know how it goes :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair just for watching youtube and surf internet , i try to clean all and re pasta the processor but it still hot , around 80-85 degree
@@crazyedd707 You can use a USB www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=usb+bluetooth+adapter Or PCI card: www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=pci+bluetooth+adapter Just make sure you get a low profile bracket if you go the card route.
@@CarlCheeveyAAblin Cool. Try looking for something like a Geforce 710 2GB card. I used a 1GB card in this video and you would get better performance if you can find something that is 2GB at least.
Cool vid dude very helpful same model i want to upgrade with nvidia gtx 550 ti, should i upgrade the power supply? Or i should just use the one that are already there?
Is there a low profile version of that card or are you going to use a larger case? The suggested PSU is 300W, but you might get away with the stock 240W, especially if it's a low profile design.
@@teckzerd9987 Cool, if you can find a power supply with at least 450-600W, that would be a good start towards future upgrades. Plus a regular sized power supply will fit a larger case better. But, people make do and modify as needed. Let me know how it goes. Look on local buy and sells for something used. If you have an Amazon Prime account and live in North America, I find deals consistently on power supplies. I picked up some Corsair 650W power supplies for $55 CAD each after tax.
I don't think the K series of CPU's will work, or if they do you won't really be able to overclock to the best of my knowledge. Safest bet is an i7-4770 with the M93p I'd say.
@@arthurgamerpro6585 I can't say if the i7-4790 works on the M93p because I've never tried personally. The Lenovo motherboard more than likely doesn't support the K series, from what I assume and reports I've read online. I wouldn't recommend it unless you have both on you and are able to try it out. I would love to know the results. You may be better off finding a used MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS, etc, motherboard to support the 4th gen K series CPU's.
Try this one out: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-710.c1990 A little better than the integrated Intel HD 4600 gpu and will give you the HDMI, VGA, and DVI options, just like the card in this video. For reference: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/hd-graphics-4600.c1953
@@teddysye6693 The 710 is built to fit into cases like this, so maybe it's the bracket that is too big? You need low profile brackets. One fits on the HDMI and DVI, while the other fits to the VGA port. Like this: www.ebay.ca/itm/ATI-AMD-nVIDIA-Video-Card-dual-low-profile-Bracket-HDMI-VGA-DVI-Back-Plate/122811321383?hash=item1c98200c27:g:GG4AAMXQMTlRalqJ In the meantime, you can always install the card without the bracket on, it will just sit there in open space until you get a bracket set for it. Does that apply to you?
@@adz__.023 Look for a Nvidia GT 710 for a cheaper but good card. It's great for a performance boost and connecting multiple monitors, but keep in mind it's not a high performance gaming card.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ok I’m sorry I’m really scared I would have to use Ethernet so when I get it I can just use wireless right? I won’t have to buy anything?
@@hexisfa9292 No, unless it is clearly specified from wherever you are buying from it likely does not have WiFi. But, a USB adapter is reasonably cheap (~$35 CAD) and it's plug and play. Drivers will install automatically and you should have no problem accessing WiFi.
@@NikhchansGaming Totally, double sided tape would work fine. I would use it as well, but I keep forgetting to buy some. Open up the case and take a look, you'll see there is room.
@@greengoblin0669 There should be a little plastic tab that releases the card and otherwise it should be easy enough to pull out from the other end. After pulling up the tab to release the brackets. Does that make sense? Let me know how it goes.
Hey man! Interesting Upgrade! Have you ever upgraded the motherboard before? Just need to confirm because I'm buying the same system with it's original components. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! No, I haven't upgraded the motherboard. From my point of view, it wouldn't really be an upgrade that made sense for me. This is because the entire setup is manufactured to work with itself, unlike building a pc from scratch. Upgrading the CPU, RAM, Video cards, other cards, etc, is a good idea. If I wanted the benefits of a newer model of ThinkCentre, I would purchase the entire system and then proceed with the CPU, RAM, etc upgrades. If the motherboard was faulty and not something I could fix, then I would replace it. Does that make sense? If you do replace the motherboard, keep in touch here and let me know how it goes. Be prepared for troubleshooting, as always :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair Thanks a lot for the response mate! and yes all that made sense to me, I think it wouldn't make sense at all to just get a new motherboard and proceed with component upgrades. It's basically a new build from scratch! I will just be upgrading the RAM, GPU and I'm going to slap an SSD to the rig! At first I thought the system was a DDR2 system but when I took a look at this video I learned it was DDR3 which helps me with choosing the correct RAM type! Btw what is the PCI Express version for the motherboard? I'm hoping atleast PCI 2.0 x16. And again this is much appreciated! Keep it up
@@discordmoderator2595 No problem! Check out this for tech specs: www.lenovo.com/ca/en/desktops/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/m93-m93p/ Otherwise, you might have to wait until you can look at the board yourself. I think the PCI slots should be what's listed on that page, though.
Hi great video! I have one doubt, hope you can answer... I just buy this PC, but I'm not sure if I paid to much for it or not... could you tell me how much it cost at this time (approximately) and how long is this PC since it was released for the first time? thanks!
I purchased 10 of these for roughly $1200 CAD. I believe 2013 was the release date. I'm not sure how much they cost back then, but I imagine around $600? So, I would sell one with all the upgrades in the video for about $235. This is also based on what I paid for SSDs, RAM, and video cards. If I get parts for cheaper, I go cheaper, etc. It is a solid choice still for many things, in my opinion.
Thank you for this video man. can i upgrade/change the exist 4gb RAM to kingston hyperX fury 8gb ddr3 1600mhz for this pc? Hope u can give me the answer, Thanks ya
I want to say yes, it would work. That would be excellent. I have only tried 4GB stick configurations personally. If you do it, let me know how it goes :)
Yes, but I believe even with the low profile version of this car you may need a PCIe power plug. So, you could get a SATA to PCIe adapter. Maybe a power supply upgrade as well, though that may be optional.
M93p Series: Best: i7-4770 & GTX 1650 th-cam.com/video/g3jLq8QT2hM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hp0G8ThM9V98nued **#2: GTX 1050, i7-4770, 24GB RAM, 2 x SSD, Exhaust Fan Mod th-cam.com/video/vQOih0cb-Ys/w-d-xo.html** **#3: GT 1030, 16GB RAM, SSD M93p th-cam.com/video/BderaGy5y4I/w-d-xo.html** **Runner Up: M93p case Swap with a GTX 750ti th-cam.com/video/JtHK0FJRINY/w-d-xo.html **Second Runner Up: Case swap with a Quadro 4000 th-cam.com/video/xZ5ArnqXGzA/w-d-xo.html** Thanks for all the comments and feedback :)
What case would you suggest as an upgrade ?
@@riggermortisfpv526 Any modern case will work fine. Check out this video for an idea. I haven't shot one yet, but I will soon. th-cam.com/video/L4PPd5hnAok/w-d-xo.html
@@riggermortisfpv526 And check out this time stamp for plugging in the front panel power button, etc: th-cam.com/video/L4PPd5hnAok/w-d-xo.html
@@HaisteComputerRepair Sweet ! Thankyou very much, I haven't built a system since the AMD K62 Processors came out, this is a huge help.
@@riggermortisfpv526 For sure. What are you planning on installing? I have a couple on the go. One build being i7-4770, GT 1050 low profile, 32GB RAM, new power supply, and a new tower case. So basically just using the M93p motherboard. I have a few to experiment with and refurbish at the moment.
You can upgrade the CPU also, I did that on my M73 that came with a Core i3 3.7 ghz dual core and moved to a Xeon quad core 8 threads 3.4 ghz and the performance improved a lot, also I have my machine with 16 gb of DDR· 1600mhz, a 480 gb SSD and a GT 710 2 gb. Since your machine has two PCI-E 16x you can put and M2 adapter and install a NVME SSD, it is way much faster than the traditional SSD (Sadly I can not do that on my rig because it has only one PCI-E 16x and it is occupied with the GT 710). I would recommend to disconnect the DVD RW unless you really need it frequently, since you added a Graphics card it will come more power (that power supply is not intended for many internal devices).
Good advice thanks. I would love to play around with these options and I may just do so. Especially the NVME SSD idea. Sounds like a fun experiment.
What the socket on your Xeon?
Thank You for this....I plan to do the exact same thing with the same model and you save me a lot of research
Glad to help! Just please install something better than a GT 210! Hit me up for recommendations if you see this.
I bought an core i7-4790k, and an Geforce GT 1030 wich i threw in it (i dont play games, only for 4K resolution) works fantastic. OS: Linux Mint.
That is an awesome setup. I would love to try that out. Thanks for sharing, it's good to know what works and what doesn't :)
Which model GT1030?
Hell
Wanna buy m93p myself, this vid helped a lot tnx. One question, where did you put ssd? Did you screwed it to the metal frame?
I used plastic zip ties and fitted it underneath the HDD caddy. Check out this updated video I did: th-cam.com/video/BderaGy5y4I/w-d-xo.html
By the way, I have some to sell if you want to check out options from me that might suit your budget or custom job.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Nice, a very elegant diy solution.
@@michaeldoherty2671 I don't get too fancy with builds that are in these mass manufactured towers. They are already pretty spaghetti like from the factory in terms of cable management.
Hello I have some questions pls-pls answer 😅
1.) Can i put a singlefan Asus GTX 750ti without changing the PSU or buying any other wires?
2.) Can I add a 128GB Kingston SSD without using/buying any additional wires or etc? Because I won't remove the stock 500GB HDD
3.) Is the 5.25 Optical DVD Drive replaceable or removable?
Pls-pls reply, Your answer is would be worthy as gold...Thank You!🤗
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1) This would work with the stock PSU: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-gtx-750-ti-low-profile-oc.b5381
2) You can add a 128GB SSD of any brand, but you need to purchase 1 x SATA cable to plug from the drive to the motherboard. Also, you need 1 x SATA Y Power Splitter so you can power the drive and keep your existing HDD and Optical Drive powered as well. You could unplug the connections from the optical drive and use those for the SSD, but then you would not have an optical drive to use.
3) The optical drive is completely optional. If you use it, keep it. If not, like I said in #2 you can unplug the SATA connections and use those for the SSD.
I recommend installing Windows to the SSD and using the HDD as storage. Follow the directions in this video to install it all. Good luck.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Oh I forgot to ask this earlier I'm sorry but can I fit the 128GB SSD along with the Stock HDD? I mean is their an extra slot or something....😅this is the last one thank-you!
@@shinkishimoto7607 No worries, feel free to ask questions. Just like in my video, you can use something like a plastic tie wrap to fasten it below the HDD. Once you take a look, be creative and you'll find a place to put it. It's crowded and it might look messy, but it's not like you'll be forced to look at it when it's enclosed in a tower case.
@@HaisteComputerRepair sorry again😅 but is their any fan slot in that unit/case?
@@shinkishimoto7607 There is a front intake fan and the CPU fan has a plastic shield that distributes the air as a type of exhaust. There is extra fan connections on the motherboard, but you would really have to squeeze an extra fan in unless you migrated to a larger case.
Thanks a lot for this video. I am trying to upgrade my pc which is the same one which you have shown here. However, how can you add both HDD and SSD. I am not seeing space for both. It's either of them. I already have a 500 gb HDD. How can I add a SSD now. I want both
You can seat the SSD in front of the intake fan. Just use something like electrical tape to fasten it to the case. Then, there will be a bit of cooling from the fan and it's out of the way from the HDD. Or use tie straps to fasten it under the HDD. Use a SATA Y Splitter to get power to both drives. Check out this for an example: th-cam.com/video/BderaGy5y4I/w-d-xo.html
@@HaisteComputerRepair Thanks for the quick reply. Will definitely try and come back if I have further queries.
@@Sudeep109 Awesome, good luck!
I got one off ebay cmos battery ,had junk build up broke housing .hard to fix all are different right.
Awh, dang. That's too bad. Do you have it running at all?
Curious: Did the Windows 7 Pro Key work for Windows 10? Or did you have to buy a fresh copy?
Windows 7 product keys activate Windows 10. So no need to purchase a copy of Windows 10 if you have a Win 7 one already. Do you need help downloading the Win 10 .iso to create a bootable Win 10 USB?
@@HaisteComputerRepair thank you! I think I can handle the installation side. I recall that the Windows 10 upgrades were cut off at some point. Good to see that they still offer it cost free.
Do you know if i can upgrade the psu. I bought a graphics card that requires external power which is not provided by the default psu
Yes you can. First, though, are you planning on keeping the same SFF tower case or migrating to a larger case? Check out this for SFF: www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/496
I've never used one, but this video demonstrates install in a M91p: th-cam.com/video/yJbpWaZypO4/w-d-xo.html
I want to add a grafiq card (gtx750ti/1050ti/960 or 1030) need to upgrade my power supply and the case too ? can i use hp 800g1 case ?
You can fit the "low profile" version of these cards into this tower. If any of the cards are larger and require a power connector from the power supply, you will need to migrate to a larger tower case and get a compatible power supply.
Can it used a graphic card like rx 550,560 or something else from nvidia? For the purpose playing a game in 2021
Those cards would probably work well, just you would need the low profile version or a larger case to migrate to. The GTX 1050 ti low profile would be nice www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gtx-1050-ti-low-profile.b4295
Check out the video I have pinned in the comments for some good suggestions and a better gaming test.
I picked up one of these last week. I'm running a 1050 TI in it. There's no air flow though for this card to breath. Not sure if there's a way to cool it down properly with the limited space. It keeps it in about 96° Celsius
Nice, that's a great card. You could migrate to a larger case if you're motivated.
@@HaisteComputerRepair do you have a possible link to a case in mind that this might work with. I'm assuming it would be a mid Tower
@@Dsuds23 I think any tower case would work. One thing to look out for is alignment with screw holes, but most are universal. I have installed M93p setups into a random assortment of cases. Modern cases and cases from a decade ago. Front USB connection types would be important to consider, as well. I have run into some cases that have a particular connection that not every board supports. I don't have a recommendation, but if you look something up share it here and I'll take a look at it.
@@HaisteComputerRepair thank you
@@Dsuds23 My pleasure!
Can anyone reccomend a mid-range graphics card that will fit in this system?
I don't need anyhting crazy powerful or expensive.
I just want something that can run games smoothly on the lowest graphics settings without too much slowdown.
Try a GT 1050, I did a video with one installed here: th-cam.com/video/vQOih0cb-Ys/w-d-xo.html
Would an Asus "GTX-750ti Formula OC" fit here? I can't do any bracket change because it has DVI/HDMI/VGA port meanwhile lowpro brackets only has DVI/HDMI holes?
Is that right? Did the low profile brackets come with the card or did you look at third party sellers? That card would be a good fit for the system. The low profile version would just fit, it looks like. Let me know if you try it out or if you find brackets.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Or is it possible to remove the vga port in the gpu? I really looked every single shop they only sell lowpro brackets that only has two holes
@@shinkishimoto7607 Does your card look like this: www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-gtx-750-ti-oc/
Or, can you link to a picture of what your card looks like?
If a bracket almost fits, you could always use tin snips to modify it, but that's up to you and how you want it to look.
Does you have the drivers for ethernet lan? :(
Have you tried this: pcsupport.lenovo.com/ca/en/products/desktops-and-all-in-ones/thinkcentre-m-series-desktops/thinkcentre-m93p/downloads/driver-list
runs but keyboard stays stuck on r key cant stop it
That's too bad. Can you try another keyboard?
2nd popular video on your channel
i think lenovo promote this video on their website
@@bealyread Haha, that would be awesome, but I doubt they would do that. I do work with a lot of their products and many are fantastic to work with, though.
@@HaisteComputerRepair That machine from 2013..7 years machine but still a-okay..i really want lenovo put this video on their website with titled "Man Still uses our 2013 machine with Upgrades"
@@bealyread I would be thrilled if they did!
Would this entire system fit in an NZXT H510?
Yep, it would likely fit just fine. The board is smaller, so of course not all those PCI slot options would be used. It might help to do some research on what type of front panel USB cables are used and if they will fit on the M93p motherboard.
i tried installing gt210 for a test AND DOENST boot at all
Was it booting before installing?
@@HaisteComputerRepair no display, what to do
@@TH-camrL1M do you have another system you can test the 210 in to ensure it’s working?
Will that motherboard fit in a mid tower case
So long as the motherboard's clear holes for it's screws align with the tower case, yes. This model did have a larger tower case option, so you might even be able to find one that is empty. I would love to get one just for the ease of migration and larger video card option.
Sir, is this pc possible for playing genshin impact?
Looks like some updates would help, but according to this, yes it would run: www.pcgamebenchmark.com/genshin-impact-system-requirements
Can we install a 4GB graphics card separately?
You can use a 4GB graphics card in this setup so long as it is Low Profile. Otherwise you would need to migrate to a larger case. I am currently running a 4GB card in a setup with the same 4th gen Intel CPU series.
@@HaisteComputerRepair thanks for the info!
@@themusicculturetmc8511 My pleasure!
@@HaisteComputerRepair ooh which 4gb card are you running. I'm looking to get a low profile card upgrade in my i7 m93p and would appreciate knowing what works!
@@JamesPowellJP This would be awesome, but it's pricy www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N105TOC-4GL#kf
It takes up to 32GB DDR3, not to be a dick just for information :)
Yes, you are totally correct! I forgot to add that in the description. I wasn't going to go back and correct it in the video. Thanks!
Legend thank you for confirming
i got the 4790 version with 16gb ram and swapped case and threw in a 600watt psu with a gtx 980 with 1tb ssd and it runs games pretty good
The i7-4790? That sounds awesome! I bet it runs quite well. I would love to try that, I'll keep my eye out for deals.
How did you get a better psu in there, I can’t find one that isn’t either super expensive or too big
@@jamesshiervlogs2613 You could try something like this: www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/496
It seems a bit expensive, but also somewhat rare, which might be what affects the price.
@@jamesshiervlogs2613
He literally said he swapped case
Hi. Can I put 300-350 PSU in this machine.? Because Im planning to upgrade the GPU to 1050 Ti.
Yes you can, you will just have to find a Small Form Factor one that fits the tower, unless you plan to migrate it all to a larger tower case. Don't forget you need the low profile version of the graphics card. Check out this video, he lists parts with links to purchase on Amazon: th-cam.com/video/yJbpWaZypO4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ITmare
@@HaisteComputerRepair to be fair you could just leave the side cover off completely if you wanted to use a standard size 1050ti
@@blitzcourt5021 For sure, anyone is welcome to do anything they like. Take the whole thing apart and run it while it's hanging on your wall in pieces :)
I put a bequiet tfx power 2 300w psu and can easy run a gt 1650 low profile. With a pci express extender and some work, we can put a 1660 without change the bequiet 300w psu. But if someone wants to do this mode he can apply any graphics card because with the extender is easy to put a second psu only for the graphics card. Offcoarse that is a little meaningless because it will destroy the perpose of the sff desktop.
@@Ioannis_Tsoumaris That's awesome. I would love to use that power supply. But yeah, you could do something cool with the system. Put it in a different tower case, install everything spread out on a wall, etc. Take any weird Linus Tech Tips idea and run with it. But in the spirit of working with that PSU, maybe just find the best low profile graphics card you can manage.
Hello, I have a lenovo m58p sff and was recently running an AMD 6450 gpu. I'm trying to upgrade to a Nvidia gt1030 Lp gpu as I know its compatible but for some reason my computer doesn't recoqnize it when booted up. I get no video through the card and device manager doesn't see it. What should I do? You seem to know alot about these computers....
I believe a GT1030 should run with the M58, but I have never tried installing one. I would like to, though. What CPU do you have? Have you tried installing the drivers for the GT 1030? It's confirmed that the PCI slot works as you previously had the AMD 6450 installed. Perhaps it's the card. It does happen. I tried installing a Geforce 210 card into an M57 yesterday and had the same issue you have. Check back in after you try downloading the drivers and installing them.
The Same PC i Bought!!!
(delevered on Nov 21st and editied this on the pc)
Nice, it's a solid choice! Are you putting any upgrades in?
@@HaisteComputerRepair no..im not upgrading anything..i bought it to play Among Us..the pc version is comfortable than among us Mobile
@@bealyread That's awesome. I'm not one for mobile games, but I have played Among Us on PC and it's fun.
my hand sweating after 2 hours playing Mobile games..thats why i want to buy pc..pc also grew my subs
@@bealyread Very nice!
I have the Lenovo thinkcentre m81 tower that has an integrated intel HD 2000 can I remove that and put a
ASUS GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB PHOENIX Fan Edition?
Yes, that should work. If you have the SFF Tower, you will have to migrate to a larger tower. Good luck, let me know if you try.
update now have to do hp bios flash update to fix getting there
Getting close!
Is E93 the same as M93?
Mine has a 240W 80+ bronze PSU (china OEM?)
Isit worth it to slap a 1050ti on it? Or just swap an ssd n run win10?
I got my hands one 1 with win 7 pro and 1tb ssd. i5-4460 8gb ram (but somehow the task manager showed that it's using 3gb on idle.)
I want to make it a budget gaming PC but if i cant then i would want it to have resellable value like win10 n office installed...
If you have the budget or find a cheap GT 1050ti I would go for it. Look for an i7-4770 CPU to swap out for the i5 and you will have a nice little tower. If you check out my other M93p videos I have tried out this configuration with good results.
I need help my pc is beeping repeatedly help
What else is happening after the beeps? No boot? No display? Can you explain at all what was happening to lead up to it acting like this?
Is this, hackintosh friendly?
I would judge that yes, it is. A quick internet search and someone turned the M93p tiny version into a hackintosh: www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/cii02m/tinytosh_lenovo_m93p_tiny_hackintosh_success/
Can i fit an Asus GT1030 Low Profile in this computer without changing the bracket? Because it has a DVI port instead of VGA port which the small bracket has
Absolutely, check out the pinned comment. There is a video of me testing out a GT 1030. It's easy to install.
how to clean install windows 10 in this build i accidentally installed win 11 in my computer and want to go back to win 10 but i cant because i exceeded the 90days period i think and also for some reason i cant open bios settings
Are you familiar at all with making a Windows 10 USB boot drive? support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d
Good Video! I also have this machine and I have found that the integrated graphics are actually better than the GT 710 GPU. That said, kind of crap for gaming. HOWEVER, I now have a GTX 1050ti in mine and it runs new games quite well! I recommend!
Awesome! The GPU I installed in this video is not a good choice, for sure. I have another video where I installed a GTX 1050 and I agree it's quite nice.
umm im planning to buy a Lenovo Thinkcentre M93p and it has I3 3rd gen can i upgrade the cpu?
Are you sure it's a M93p? M93p's shipped with 4th gen Intel "Haswell" CPU's. 3rd Gen Intel "Ivy Bridge" was the Thinkcentre M92p. Double check the ad or send me a link and I'll check it out.
so you know ,you can hit, I dont have key,go to your next step . windows will see key, when you get updats....
Thanks, I am aware. I just prefer to enter the product key during installation :)
I have the same setup m93p, the cpu e3 1270 v3 is compatible ?
I actually never thought about installing a Xeon CPU. This person did, though: th-cam.com/video/RgSlf9Z4-IA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Replap
same pc but i replace it to gaming case and upgrade ssd gtx1060 3gb and also 700watt plan to upgradr cpu to xeon e3 1240v2 i hope it work
Nice, that's good to know all that is compatible. A better CPU would definitely pair well with the gtx 1060. Just be sure to upgrade to a compatible CPU. Look up your current one on somewhere like techpoerup.com and compare to make sure it would work. Post back here to update if you ever do it.
Do you possibly have a link to the case you purchased to transfer it to. My graphics card cannot breathe in this thing lol
I'm also assuming you had to purchase the power adapter
Great video bro. Can I just use the ssd or do I have to use the power splitter and keep the 3.5 installed?
Thanks! No, you can just use the SSD if you like. The power splitter is just for setting up an additional storage drive. Completely optional.
Just got this pc came with a 16gb ram,128 gb m.2 ssd,1 tb hdd it has the i5 3.2 ghz i want to us this pc for gaming specifically i want to case swap it and get a good ghraphics card for it any recomendations...and maybe suggestions on any other upgrades?thanks.
That's cool. Do you have some kind of adapter for that M.2 SSD? SATA adapter or PCI card adapter? Check out the pinned comment for some ideas, specifically the GeForce GTX 1650 if you have the budget. Let me know what you end up using and let me know about that m.2 SSD, I'm curious.
I have a Thinkcentre E73 SFF which has the 4 gen intel cpu. It has got I5-4440S, 16gb ram, 256 SSD and Intel 4600.
What motherboard does the M93P have?
The M93p board has a LGA1150 socket type and a "Haswell" microarchitecture. Just like the i5-4440s.
Sir plz make a video about Lenovo thinkcentre m90 sff desktop model 2010
I am actually going to upload a video of the M90p soon. It's similar to this video, actually.
Is there any way I could put in a 1660 super in?
Yep, you would just need to upgrade the power supply (300W min according to techpowerup) and either migrate the system into a larger case or get some PCIe cable extenders and let the GPU hang out.
Just upgraded mine and upgraded memory to 32GB I wish I could upgrade the power supply from the stock 240 Watt to 300 Watt or greater. Any suggestions? Great video, thanks!
Check out this video, he has an interesting setup and links to a power supply you could use: th-cam.com/video/yJbpWaZypO4/w-d-xo.html
So 32gb ram is doable?
@@user-n0tf0und. Yes 32GB is doable…works great!
@@DesignEagles thank you!
Amazon has a small 300 watt for 30$. Should fit
Can a Gtx 1650 LP fit and work on it have someone tried this ?
Yes, it should work fine. I sold one of these towers to someone who then installed one. I haven't seen it in action, but he told me it works. Hope that helps! Looks like it will fit, either way.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ty so much Sir
@@hatchi18doox49 No problem, let me know how it goes.
Is it possible to transfer the build to a mATX or mid tower?
Yes absolutely. I did a video on this: th-cam.com/video/JtHK0FJRINY/w-d-xo.html
what ram model and brand? where did you buy?
I think I installed some Samsung 2GB 10600U - 09 - 11 - 81 DDR3 RAM. 1333 MHz. It came with a 4GB stick of the same configuration. I generally buy used or "refurbished" RAM wherever I can get a deal in bulk. Online buy and sells local to Canada and places like eBay. Just make sure it's DDR3. Generally, I don't pay more than $10 for a stick of 2GB. As for speed, look for 1333MHz or better if you can. Hope that helps!
Hello, could you tell me where to buy the cable for sata power?
You can buy "SATA Y Power Splitter" on eBay or Amazon.
Can this pc play some games without being upgraded?
Yes definitely. It would help to at least invest in the 128GB SSD, keep a HDD for storage and running games, and get up to 8GB RAM. So, I guess a better response would be to ask what you currently have running or what is in the one you are looking at purchasing? Btw, I just tested a Radeon Pro Wx 3200 4GB and it's a nice boost for what came out to $180CAD as a trade in from a customer.
Go here: www.pcgamebenchmark.com/
Enter in the CPU info, Intel HD 4600, and whatever RAM you have. It will give you an idea, but just remember that higher end games won't run that well.
Bro I have purchased lenovo m93p 4gb ram i5 processor.but very very slow.i need multiple virtual machine run in this pc.so can I purchase 4gb ram and 2gb graphics card for better speed performance? And need ssd?
First step should be the purchase of an SSD or two, depending on what you need. RAM next. If you can get either 4 x 2GB DDR3 1333MHz or 1600MHz. Or, 2 x 4GB for dual channel 8GB. 4 x 4GB for 16GB is good too. Last should be the 2GB graphics card. You may not need it right away for running virtual machines. Look for a 2GB DDR5 Low Profile Graphics card like the GT 1030. Where in the world do you live? I may have something you need in stock.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Thanks bro.i m live in india
@@tamilanscripts1242 No problem, good luck with your M93p!
Excelente video, justo voy a actualizar una ThinkCentre M93, me guiaré con tu video, solo tengo una duda, cual es el cable para alimentar el otro disco duro??
Thank you! The graphics card I install is not a great match for the system, let me know if you want recommendations for better ones. Look up "SATA Y splitter 90 degrees" on eBay. That is the cable you need along with another SATA cable. They are both pretty cheap if you don't mind ordering from China and waiting.
Hola amigo, cómo le fue con eso? Si lo hizo?
are you suure why you put g210 just remove it the intel hd grafhic in the cpu is better
It is a bit better, I just had the card around for testing. I was thinking it would be nice to have extra display options. I could have done a comparison and maybe I will. Thanks again for the feedback.
how many 3.5" hard drive can be installed?
In the SFF case, there's only really room for one unless you take out the optical drive. But, up to three SATA connections if you remove the optical drive and find the space.
hai bro can i know, i have same pc model like you, i little bit confuse about ram, which model i need to buy like (PC3L-12800) OR JUST PC3-12800)? and how many slot can use? can i buy like 4x4gb? sory bruh i newbie here hahah
10 of these towers shipped to me with 4GB 1Rx8 PC3L-12800U-11-11-A1 RAM sticks. You can definitely install 4 x 4GB sticks. In fact, that would be awesome :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair oh oky bro, but i want to add some gpu, can you suggest? gt710 2gb ddr5 or gtx750 can compatible with this spec?
@@headhunter0239 For a budget, yes the GT 710 would be a great fit. Check my pinned comment for more suggestions, with a higher price.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ok bro thankyou for reply. great day
@@headhunter0239 You too!
have you had any cmos battery say loose inter liquids and built up to where you couldn't get battery OUT
No, I haven't had that happen. Are you able to carefully chip away at the build up? Does the computer still run?
Is the ram DDR3 OR DDR4 OR DDR2?
DDR3 RAM
fined out why windows had it locked out for security two many log ins resign in pc is now running ,,,,,,, updating yaaaaaaa
Ok, great. Happy to hear it's working out for you :)
i have this pc with 4gb ram ddr3 1600mhz from lenovo
and i want to upgrade to 8bg
do i have to buy just 4gb ddr3
or i have to buy 8 and remove lenovo ram
(edit : i buy a gt 1030 for this )
Nice video card choice. Take a look at the label printed on your RAM that is already installed and Google what speed it is in MHz. Then find some DDR3 RAM to install. I have installed various configurations with various brands and they all tend to work. Match up brands if you can though, or buy RAM in sets. Main thing to consider is the speed. You could end up installing one stick with less speed and the system will automatically run all RAM at that speed. Upgrade to 16GB if you can, to match the ferocity of the 1030 :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair Thanks I appreciate your response you really help me
@@haddad7031 My pleasure!
l have a new battery coming today than go jn to safe mode and rest hoping thats fixs it... wish me luck
A new CMOS battery? Just make sure you disconnect the power cable. Replacing the battery should not require any diagnostic work, unless there is an underlying issue. Let me know how it goes.
up to what generation of processors can i put on my M91P?
Check out this link: support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/pd011085
I have the Intel® Core i5-2400 Processor installed. tinyurl.com/y2l6zegr Look up your current CPU here and then cross reference the specs with what you want to put in. Safe bet is probably the Lenovo documentation. Let me know how it goes.
does anyone know how to upgrade the PSU?
Are you looking to keep the Small Form Factor Case? Search for "Small Form Factor Power Supply" or "SFX Power Supply" on somewhere like Amazon and you'll find some options. Might help to measure beforehand. Like this: www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Factor-Modular-Certified-Warranty/dp/B01CGI5M24/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=small+form+factor+power+supply&qid=1626891783&sr=8-4
Thanks heaps for sharing this! It's helped me immensely! Awesome work!
Thank you! What are you thinking of putting in your tower?
@@HaisteComputerRepair much the same as your build, an SSD & a cheap GPU (GT 710). I'm going throw on an aftermarket CPU fan (for no particular reason, just for the fun of it haha). Just waiting for the parts now. Should be an enjoyable little build :)
@@vonwolfeo Nice. The GT 210 I installed was just because I had it around my shop. I wouldn't recommend that unless someone really wanted HDMI or something. I didn't really make that clear in the video. A 710 would be much better, I have one on order as well and will probably shoot a follow up video. Good luck!
@@HaisteComputerRepair Thanks mate!
@@HaisteComputerRepair My build is complete! Super impressed with the GT 710, I wasn't expecting much performance, but honestly it's a little nugget! I love it! haha
Is it possible to do a case swap?
For sure, just be mindful that some larger cases / power supplies may not have the same plugs required to power certain things on the motherboard. Ex: USB ports on the tower case, power plug cables, number of fans, etc. Just do your research and you should be fine. I have done this before and had success.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ok thank you so much!
@@wildmonkeymc2380 No problem, let me know how it goes :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair I will I think a mid tower will do?
@@wildmonkeymc2380 Are you buying new or reusing an old tower case?
Hi, I have a question about the space for ram, can you put 32gb of ram?
Yes you can. Try to match the RAM with the description here under "Memory" support.lenovo.com/lv/en/solutions/pd027564
can this handle not low profile card?
Yes it can, but you would need to transfer everything to a larger case or try to use a cable adapter. Or do some modifications to the SFF case to fit a large card. Check out this case swap I just uploaded, which will show you what to do: th-cam.com/video/JtHK0FJRINY/w-d-xo.html
keyboard to other pc works fine was doing this frist turn on out of box
Try # 2 and 3 I mentioned in the other comment
can i keep the hdd thats in the thing already and just put the ssd above it or under or do i need a new hdd too? also would a 1650 LP work with this build
Yes, you can keep the HDD and install the SSD as a boot drive. You need 1x SATA Y power splitter and 1 x SATA cable to power both drives unless you want to remove the cables from the optical drive and not use that anymore. The video shows how to do this. If you need to back anything up or retain the Windows key, do that before wiping the HDD and installing Win 10 to the SSD. Both cables I have sourced from eBay for less than $5 CAD. As for the 1650 low profile, I think it would work. The M93p has PCI E 3.0 and according to this site the card is PCI Express 3.0. Also, it's rated as 75W, so you would probably be ok with the stock 240W power supply. Keep in mind this is my speculation, I haven't tried it myself. Let me know if you do, I would love to find out. www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-gtx-1650-low-profile-gddr6#spec
I’m about to try the 1650 LP
@@user-n0tf0und. Let me know how it goes. I have a bunch of M93p's coming my way and I'll look out for a deal on a 1650
founded out someone selling these lenovo sff's cheaper than the dell optiplex 9020's lol. To my eyes, the only physical difference is that the motherboard on the Lenovo has 2 slots, and the Dell Optiplex 9020 has 4.
I found a guy selling these lenovo machines (i5-4690) cheaper than the 9020's (i5-4570) lol.
You must have the Tiny version of a ThinkCentre? The M93p in this video has 4 dimm slots, as well as majority of the SFF models. Did you end up getting one?
@@HaisteComputerRepair No not really, The M73 Tower is just like this video. I think the difference is just it has less ram slots.
@@HaisteComputerRepair I got the M73 Sff tower, works fine. Great for light gaming such as minecraft, roblox. Now I'm saving money for a graphics card lol
@@syaz4380 Ok, well running dual channel ram is always best. Two Dimm slots isn't bad. What do you currently have installed?
@@syaz4380 That's where price is involved. Keep an eye out for GT 1030 low profile. It would be a nice boost and they aren't terribly expensive as compared to anything even slightly more powerful.
Dose this come with network card
Not unless someone is selling one with it installed. You can buy a pci-e wireless network card, though. Just make sure it comes with a low profile bracket to fit in the SFF case.
You think you could attach another 3.5" disk drive where the optical drive is?
Definitely :)
Can we add wifi to this, not by usb but like a wifi card or something. If so which does it take
Yes definitely. I believe some of the cards here would work for you: www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=low+profile+pci-express&N=100158094&IsNodeId=1&Ntk=all&name=Wireless+Adapters&isdeptsrh=1
@@HaisteComputerRepair thanks man
@@crazyedd707 No problem!
I have new usb keyboard still wont stop
Strange. Did you install any particular software recently before this started happening? Can you 1)try plugging the keyboard into another device to see if it happens there 2)try booting into safe mode, see if it still won't stop 3)try system recovery aka system restore point if you have one set up.
the pc is locked down hp sending me recovery flash bipass for pass word lock
I just realized that you are saying HP. Are you not working with this ThinkCentre M93p?
Just bought one of these refurbished for my dad to use as a Facebook machine. So the 2 beeps on startup is normal? Mine does it too.
Many times, with many different systems, one or two beeps is normal. It means the system is posting and booting the operating system. Sometimes you can disable in BIOS. What are the specs on yours?
@@HaisteComputerRepair interesting, i5 2400, 8gbram, 500gb hdd.
@@Ayecie. Is it a ThinkCentre M93p or M91p? M91 shipped with 2nd gen Intel CPU's while M93p was 4th gen.
@@HaisteComputerRepair it’s an m91, everything is working properly, I was just curious about the beeps like on your video.
@@HaisteComputerRepair for example, powering it on I hear the 2 beeps, then there’s a splash screen that says press f1 for setup or f2 to resume, pressing f2 continues to windows and then it operates normally.
is that motherboard lenovo sharkbay?And did it support rtx 570 or gtx 1050ti?
That's a good question about Sharkbay, I'll have to double check the next time I set one up. That wasn't on my mind at all, so thanks for asking. Yes, I have had reports that those graphics cards do work with these systems :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair on rx 570 work on sharkbay or on motherboard u have?Thx for fast reply!
@@urosnikolic7178 Motherboard in the tower from this video.
Wich official CPU´s can you use on this computer. And if you dont know, maby you can put me in the right direction?
Have a nice day!
Check out this page for specs and socket type: www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-4570.html Check out this list www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i5/i5-4570.html
The Lenovo page lists two CPU options www.lenovo.com/ca/en/desktops/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/m93-m93p/
I'm sure someone has posted a video on TH-cam or elsewhere on a good upgrade option. It looks like the i7-4790 might be a good choice. Let me know how you make out :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair Yeah, i bought an i7-7490K, and it was no problem. Thanks for the links, and the help!. :)
@@d4rkrabb1t Nice, good to know. I might do the same if I find a deal. Glad it worked out well!
Can i just but the graphic card.?
Do you mean just install the graphics card only? Yes.
What are your thoughts on the CPU cooler, does it actually work to draw hot air out of the case?
With the fan shroud, I think it at least allows heat to passively come out of the rear. I have installed small exhaust fans before and the thermals are much better. Depends on what you are doing with it. When I installed an i7-4770 and GTX 1050ti, the extra exhaust fan mod helped a lot.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Where did you manage to install an exhaust fan, space is tight? You don't mean the front fan right?
I'm torn betwen buying this or an HP 800 G1 where the CPU fan exhausts directly to the back of the case but where there is only one fan.
@@jbol2454 I shot a video of me mounting the fan here th-cam.com/video/GYew4MwHxMg/w-d-xo.html
It's a little long winded, but you can skip to parts you want to see. Another alternative is swapping into a larger case and installing different hardware. I also did some videos on that if you want some ideas.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Amazing thank you, I'll stay with SFF I love it.
@@jbol2454 Awesome :)
What method do you recomend to put a full size power supply into a small form factor PC?
You would have to migrate everything over to a larger tower case. But, can I ask what you are planning to install or do with it? If it's a project or just for fun, etc. Migrating everything for just that power supply might not be worth it unless you're also installing the best graphics card the system can handle and upgrading the CPU. Not to dismiss the idea, by all means. If you do it let me know how it goes :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair oh I see... Well I ended up putting it in my dads tower Pc and it runs so there foes the power supply
@@alexzhang3836 Excellent!
i have that lenovo m93p , but i have problem with heat , the processor too hot
What do you mainly use the computer for? Any reason that you think it might be overheating?
@@HaisteComputerRepair just for watching youtube and surf internet , i try to clean all and re pasta the processor but it still hot , around 80-85 degree
@@firmans4435 You cleaned the fans and blew out dust? All fans are running well?
I just got one of these. Do u know if they have Bluetooth or if it can be added. If it can be added what would i need?
You would need either a USB Bluetooth adapter or a Bluetooth low profile PCI card. What are you trying to connect?
@@HaisteComputerRepair a Bluetooth speaker
@@crazyedd707 You can use a USB www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=usb+bluetooth+adapter
Or PCI card: www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=pci+bluetooth+adapter
Just make sure you get a low profile bracket if you go the card route.
@@HaisteComputerRepair thanks man i appreciate it
@@crazyedd707 Let me know how it goes :)
Can I upgrade the PC one at a time????does still boot like that???
If you mean can you add upgrades one at a time while the system is setup with Windows and otherwise operating, yes. Am I reading this correctly?
@@HaisteComputerRepair yes sorry I'm bad At English I was planning to put Graphics Card
@@CarlCheeveyAAblin Cool. Try looking for something like a Geforce 710 2GB card. I used a 1GB card in this video and you would get better performance if you can find something that is 2GB at least.
Cool vid dude very helpful
same model i want to upgrade with nvidia gtx 550 ti, should i upgrade the power supply? Or i should just use the one that are already there?
Is there a low profile version of that card or are you going to use a larger case? The suggested PSU is 300W, but you might get away with the stock 240W, especially if it's a low profile design.
@@HaisteComputerRepair im planning to use a bigger case
@@teckzerd9987 Cool, if you can find a power supply with at least 450-600W, that would be a good start towards future upgrades. Plus a regular sized power supply will fit a larger case better. But, people make do and modify as needed. Let me know how it goes. Look on local buy and sells for something used. If you have an Amazon Prime account and live in North America, I find deals consistently on power supplies. I picked up some Corsair 650W power supplies for $55 CAD each after tax.
@@HaisteComputerRepair alright mate thanks for the help
@@teckzerd9987 No problem :)
this pc works i7 4790k?
I don't think the K series of CPU's will work, or if they do you won't really be able to overclock to the best of my knowledge. Safest bet is an i7-4770 with the M93p I'd say.
@@HaisteComputerRepair but i7 4790 is works for this pc?
@@HaisteComputerRepair why?
@@arthurgamerpro6585 I can't say if the i7-4790 works on the M93p because I've never tried personally. The Lenovo motherboard more than likely doesn't support the K series, from what I assume and reports I've read online. I wouldn't recommend it unless you have both on you and are able to try it out. I would love to know the results. You may be better off finding a used MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS, etc, motherboard to support the 4th gen K series CPU's.
Do you have a graphics card that you recommend that works on this computer? I want to get a new one but I know nothing about computers
Try this one out: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gt-710.c1990 A little better than the integrated Intel HD 4600 gpu and will give you the HDMI, VGA, and DVI options, just like the card in this video. For reference: www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/hd-graphics-4600.c1953
@@HaisteComputerRepair thanks
@@HaisteComputerRepair so I got it, but it is too tall to put in the case won’t close what should I do now?
@@teddysye6693 The 710 is built to fit into cases like this, so maybe it's the bracket that is too big? You need low profile brackets. One fits on the HDMI and DVI, while the other fits to the VGA port. Like this: www.ebay.ca/itm/ATI-AMD-nVIDIA-Video-Card-dual-low-profile-Bracket-HDMI-VGA-DVI-Back-Plate/122811321383?hash=item1c98200c27:g:GG4AAMXQMTlRalqJ
In the meantime, you can always install the card without the bracket on, it will just sit there in open space until you get a bracket set for it. Does that apply to you?
@@HaisteComputerRepair that worked, thanks for your help
Whta gpu can I put in it
What kind of budget do you have? A GT 710 2GB low profile would be nice. What do you want to do with the tower mainly?
@@HaisteComputerRepair I dont really have any budget, but I would like a cheap but good gpu.
@@HaisteComputerRepair I use the tower for school and sometimes gaming
@@adz__.023 Look for a Nvidia GT 710 for a cheaper but good card. It's great for a performance boost and connecting multiple monitors, but keep in mind it's not a high performance gaming card.
@@HaisteComputerRepair Oh thank you
Can you use wireless connection
Yes absolutely. You can use a USB WiFi adapter or install a WiFi network card in the PCI slot on the motherboard.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ok I’m sorry I’m really scared I would have to use Ethernet so when I get it I can just use wireless right? I won’t have to buy anything?
@@hexisfa9292 No, unless it is clearly specified from wherever you are buying from it likely does not have WiFi. But, a USB adapter is reasonably cheap (~$35 CAD) and it's plug and play. Drivers will install automatically and you should have no problem accessing WiFi.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ok on the specs it say wifi so I think I’m good
@@HaisteComputerRepair nvm thank you bro I went to it and it say wifi adapter so I’m good
I have the same but I have a blue piece on it and it has a lock I can’t seem to open it
Is the blue piece on the rear? That is likely to open the case. Are you sure you don't have a Thinkcentre M92 or M91p? Is it a padlock?
@@HaisteComputerRepair thank you this is what I needed a padlock
@@AliBounds Bolt cutters will take it off.
@@HaisteComputerRepair oh there was no need I had to push down it slides. And I just took it off it folds like flipping a page in the book
@@AliBounds Nice. So it is confirmed to be a M93p?
Where does the ssd fits? Is it just hangimg there after closing the chasi
I zip-tied the SSD right underneath the HDD chassis. If you arrange the cables correctly, it will fit nicely there.
@@HaisteComputerRepair thanks man!
@@noem1sa No problem!
@@HaisteComputerRepair I was wondering the same thing. So it fits in there fine right? Can I use double sided tape?
@@NikhchansGaming Totally, double sided tape would work fine. I would use it as well, but I keep forgetting to buy some. Open up the case and take a look, you'll see there is room.
How do you take the gpu out because mine won’t home out
Do you mean a graphics card? Or the integrated GPU on the motherboard (that one is soldered on).
@@HaisteComputerRepair graphics card
@@greengoblin0669 There should be a little plastic tab that releases the card and otherwise it should be easy enough to pull out from the other end. After pulling up the tab to release the brackets. Does that make sense? Let me know how it goes.
@@HaisteComputerRepair ya it does thanks I got it out
@@greengoblin0669 Nice, good stuff. Are you replacing it with another card?
Hey man! Interesting Upgrade! Have you ever upgraded the motherboard before? Just need to confirm because I'm buying the same system with it's original components. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! No, I haven't upgraded the motherboard. From my point of view, it wouldn't really be an upgrade that made sense for me. This is because the entire setup is manufactured to work with itself, unlike building a pc from scratch. Upgrading the CPU, RAM, Video cards, other cards, etc, is a good idea. If I wanted the benefits of a newer model of ThinkCentre, I would purchase the entire system and then proceed with the CPU, RAM, etc upgrades. If the motherboard was faulty and not something I could fix, then I would replace it. Does that make sense? If you do replace the motherboard, keep in touch here and let me know how it goes. Be prepared for troubleshooting, as always :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair Thanks a lot for the response mate! and yes all that made sense to me, I think it wouldn't make sense at all to just get a new motherboard and proceed with component upgrades. It's basically a new build from scratch! I will just be upgrading the RAM, GPU and I'm going to slap an SSD to the rig! At first I thought the system was a DDR2 system but when I took a look at this video I learned it was DDR3 which helps me with choosing the correct RAM type! Btw what is the PCI Express version for the motherboard? I'm hoping atleast PCI 2.0 x16. And again this is much appreciated! Keep it up
@@discordmoderator2595 No problem! Check out this for tech specs: www.lenovo.com/ca/en/desktops/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/m93-m93p/ Otherwise, you might have to wait until you can look at the board yourself. I think the PCI slots should be what's listed on that page, though.
@@HaisteComputerRepair found it! It's x16 😄 this help means a lot to me, thank you so much, sincerely. Have a great day friend!
@@discordmoderator2595 My pleasure!
Hi
Great video. I have a question. Where do you put the SSD? I don't figure where you are put it.
Regards
I would strap it into the 3.5" bay with a tie strap, under a 3.5" HDD if I installed one, or double sided tape to the case beside the intake fan.
Hi great video! I have one doubt, hope you can answer... I just buy this PC, but I'm not sure if I paid to much for it or not... could you tell me how much it cost at this time (approximately) and how long is this PC since it was released for the first time? thanks!
I purchased 10 of these for roughly $1200 CAD. I believe 2013 was the release date. I'm not sure how much they cost back then, but I imagine around $600? So, I would sell one with all the upgrades in the video for about $235. This is also based on what I paid for SSDs, RAM, and video cards. If I get parts for cheaper, I go cheaper, etc. It is a solid choice still for many things, in my opinion.
@@HaisteComputerRepair thanks for your response, you helped me a lot!
@@10VGomez Good luck building up a solid budget PC!
Thank you for this video man. can i upgrade/change the exist 4gb RAM to kingston hyperX fury 8gb ddr3 1600mhz for this pc? Hope u can give me the answer, Thanks ya
I want to say yes, it would work. That would be excellent. I have only tried 4GB stick configurations personally. If you do it, let me know how it goes :)
@@HaisteComputerRepair all right. Thank you ya. I'll try soon. 🙂👍
@@Ziyyad6789 how did you go, I am looking at doing the same with 16gb. Conflicting things on Max being 16 or 32gb
@@user-n0tf0und. hey dude. I already used the 8gb and it works well and give a good performance until today.
Can a GTX 1060 ti 4gb work for this?
Yes, but I believe even with the low profile version of this car you may need a PCIe power plug. So, you could get a SATA to PCIe adapter. Maybe a power supply upgrade as well, though that may be optional.