On behalf of Camera-wiki : Thanks for publishing your video ! A link to this video was added to the "Super Ikonta 530/15" page on the Camera-wiki Please note that alas no direct links could be given as that is against the TH-cam rules.
It's such a satisfying feeling to get results out of such old film! I have a couple more rolls from the same batch that I hope to use soon. Thanks for your comment!
Quality never goes out of fashion. Great results from the expired film, and oh I wish we could still readily get this film today. I have the same camera (530/2) which is in 120 format, and shooting it is an immersive experience. All Zeiss Ikon folders, from the humblest Nettar with a basic slow lens, will still take superb pictures.
Thank you! I do enjoy shooting this camera and also wish the film was still readily available! I should probably also look into a 530/2 to be able to shoot with it more often.
@@oddballcamera If the 120 film is smaller, it may be possible to have a different take-up spool made and/or a spacer for a 120 spool. I have seen such adapters being made on a small scale using 3D printers.
@@mrstandfast2212 Yes, indeed that is true. I do own a set of such adapters made by FAK. They work well but the one problem is that for film this size the edges of the 120 film curl in the film gate and do not lay totally flat since the film is not as wide as the film gate, so the focus is not always very good. Some people make permanent modifications to the film gate to keep the film flat.
@Oddball Camera That makes sense, I'd assumed that only the spools were different. Looking at the film, that's obviously not the case. Good luck in your search for a 530/2, one good thing is that they tend to be more reasonably priced than the successive Super Ikonta models.
I am wondering if it would be possible to use this camera with regular 120 film. Maybe a film mask and some spacers would do the trick. Would you consider it as a possibility?
Yes this is definitely possible. It's possible to buy adapters that allow 120 spools to be used in the camera (the spacers you mentioned). With this setup you will get a 6x11 negative.
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@@oddballcamera Thank you. I may pick one of these up if I find one in a good shape. Really great channel by the way. I am completely hooked.
@ Thank you! I really appreciate your feedback. By the way the 116 camera-to-120 film adapter I sometimes use is the FAK116 kit from the Film Photography Project. It's made by CameraHack in Italy, and I think you can find this same adapter set from other sources as well.
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@@oddballcamera I will look them up. I live in Austria, so Italy is just around the corner. Thank you for checking it for me.
Really enjoying your videos. I have a roll of 35mm tri-x 135 from 1959 I got at my local thrift shop. Any recommendations on what iso and/or developer I should use?
It's always tough to know exactly what to do with a single roll of film of that age. There are so many variables about how it was stored that it's almost impossible to know exactly how to shoot the film without doing any initial experiments. I would probably shoot it at ISO 12 or 25, and do a cold stand development in Kodak HC110 at a 1:99 dilution. But that's just a guess really. That's one of the fun things about shooting such old film--you never really know what you're going to get!
Interesting that this camera would take the 616 spools. Unless this is an odd exception the MF Ikontas all used the "1" type spools, not Kodak's smaller "6" type spools.
I was surprised by that as well when I first got this camera! It turns out that after Kodak released their 620 and 616 films, Zeiss responded by releasing "M" versions of their "B II 8" and "D 8" films (the Zeiss-branded 120 and 116 equivalents). These new versions were thus "BM II 8" and "DM 8". The "M" stands for "Metallspule", or "metal spool", and these versions were equivalent to Kodak's 620 and 616 films. Most interestingly, in the original manual for these cameras it states that the 6x9 versions of the Super Ikonta could take either "B II 8" or "BM II 8" film (the 120 and 620 equivalents), but the 6.5x11 version like mine could only take the "DM 8" film (the 616 equivalent), and not "D 8" film (the 116 equivalent). This camera is a bit of an oddity and Zeiss only made it for four years, while they made many different versions of the 120 cameras for several decades.
That's an interesting bit of trivia. It would have never occurred to me to be mindful of that with an Ikonta. I just checked my 518/2 and it will not take the 620 spools; the spindles are too big. Of course, there is no reason a camera can't take both, like the Foldex 20. Thanks for the update!
@@tim31415 Interestingly, I just checked another manual I have for the early Super Ikontas. This one says the 6x9 Super Ikonta accepts "B II 8" film (120 equiv.) and the 6.5x11 accepts "DM 8" film (616 equiv.). No mention of the "BM II 8" film (620 equiv.). So it sounds like they were shifting around regarding whether their 6x9 cameras would accept 620 film or not. Perhaps some early models did and then later Zeiss deleted that dual film format ability? I'll bet once Zeiss stopped supplying their own branded film (I think Zeiss-branded film ended at the onset of WWII?) they no longer tried to make their cameras compatible with 620 film. But that's just conjecture on my part!
Thank you! For 116 and 616 film I typically use an Epson V600 with a special holder made by Negative Solutions. The V600 transparency scanning area is just wide enough to cover the 6.5 x 11 negative. However, for this particular roll the developing and scanning was done by a lab.
On behalf of Camera-wiki :
Thanks for publishing your video !
A link to this video was added to the "Super Ikonta 530/15" page on the Camera-wiki
Please note that alas no direct links could be given as that is against the TH-cam rules.
Thank you!
Very nice! I ‘m impressed with the 616 film’s viability still today….. cool!
Of course, a fine camera!
It's such a satisfying feeling to get results out of such old film! I have a couple more rolls from the same batch that I hope to use soon. Thanks for your comment!
Quality never goes out of fashion. Great results from the expired film, and oh I wish we could still readily get this film today.
I have the same camera (530/2) which is in 120 format, and shooting it is an immersive experience. All Zeiss Ikon folders, from the humblest Nettar with a basic slow lens, will still take superb pictures.
Thank you! I do enjoy shooting this camera and also wish the film was still readily available! I should probably also look into a 530/2 to be able to shoot with it more often.
@@oddballcamera If the 120 film is smaller, it may be possible to have a different take-up spool made and/or a spacer for a 120 spool. I have seen such adapters being made on a small scale using 3D printers.
@@mrstandfast2212 Yes, indeed that is true. I do own a set of such adapters made by FAK. They work well but the one problem is that for film this size the edges of the 120 film curl in the film gate and do not lay totally flat since the film is not as wide as the film gate, so the focus is not always very good. Some people make permanent modifications to the film gate to keep the film flat.
@Oddball Camera That makes sense, I'd assumed that only the spools were different. Looking at the film, that's obviously not the case. Good luck in your search for a 530/2, one good thing is that they tend to be more reasonably priced than the successive Super Ikonta models.
just got one by $112, really expect to experience this camera.
Awesome! Have fun with it!
I am wondering if it would be possible to use this camera with regular 120 film. Maybe a film mask and some spacers would do the trick. Would you consider it as a possibility?
Yes this is definitely possible. It's possible to buy adapters that allow 120 spools to be used in the camera (the spacers you mentioned). With this setup you will get a 6x11 negative.
@@oddballcamera Thank you. I may pick one of these up if I find one in a good shape. Really great channel by the way. I am completely hooked.
@ Thank you! I really appreciate your feedback. By the way the 116 camera-to-120 film adapter I sometimes use is the FAK116 kit from the Film Photography Project. It's made by CameraHack in Italy, and I think you can find this same adapter set from other sources as well.
@@oddballcamera I will look them up. I live in Austria, so Italy is just around the corner. Thank you for checking it for me.
Really enjoying your videos. I have a roll of 35mm tri-x 135 from 1959 I got at my local thrift shop. Any recommendations on what iso and/or developer I should use?
It's always tough to know exactly what to do with a single roll of film of that age. There are so many variables about how it was stored that it's almost impossible to know exactly how to shoot the film without doing any initial experiments. I would probably shoot it at ISO 12 or 25, and do a cold stand development in Kodak HC110 at a 1:99 dilution. But that's just a guess really. That's one of the fun things about shooting such old film--you never really know what you're going to get!
@@oddballcamera thanks for the advice and I’ll keep my expectations low :)
@@mixschrecks3839 Ha! Yes, good idea...that way you might end up pleasantly surprised!
Interesting that this camera would take the 616 spools. Unless this is an odd exception the MF Ikontas all used the "1" type spools, not Kodak's smaller "6" type spools.
I was surprised by that as well when I first got this camera! It turns out that after Kodak released their 620 and 616 films, Zeiss responded by releasing "M" versions of their "B II 8" and "D 8" films (the Zeiss-branded 120 and 116 equivalents). These new versions were thus "BM II 8" and "DM 8". The "M" stands for "Metallspule", or "metal spool", and these versions were equivalent to Kodak's 620 and 616 films. Most interestingly, in the original manual for these cameras it states that the 6x9 versions of the Super Ikonta could take either "B II 8" or "BM II 8" film (the 120 and 620 equivalents), but the 6.5x11 version like mine could only take the "DM 8" film (the 616 equivalent), and not "D 8" film (the 116 equivalent). This camera is a bit of an oddity and Zeiss only made it for four years, while they made many different versions of the 120 cameras for several decades.
That's an interesting bit of trivia. It would have never occurred to me to be mindful of that with an Ikonta. I just checked my 518/2 and it will not take the 620 spools; the spindles are too big. Of course, there is no reason a camera can't take both, like the Foldex 20. Thanks for the update!
@@tim31415 Interestingly, I just checked another manual I have for the early Super Ikontas. This one says the 6x9 Super Ikonta accepts "B II 8" film (120 equiv.) and the 6.5x11 accepts "DM 8" film (616 equiv.). No mention of the "BM II 8" film (620 equiv.). So it sounds like they were shifting around regarding whether their 6x9 cameras would accept 620 film or not. Perhaps some early models did and then later Zeiss deleted that dual film format ability? I'll bet once Zeiss stopped supplying their own branded film (I think Zeiss-branded film ended at the onset of WWII?) they no longer tried to make their cameras compatible with 620 film. But that's just conjecture on my part!
i use à 530/2 whis ilford Fp4 i love this camera
These old Super Ikontas are fantastic cameras!
Nice tones. Btw, what scanner do you use?
Thank you! For 116 and 616 film I typically use an Epson V600 with a special holder made by Negative Solutions. The V600 transparency scanning area is just wide enough to cover the 6.5 x 11 negative. However, for this particular roll the developing and scanning was done by a lab.