Why You Should Invest In Cycling Bib Shorts

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  • Cycling bib shorts are an essential bit of kit for new cyclists. But, for all you new cyclists out there who may not have discovered the world of lycra just yet, Manon's here to talk you through why you should consider investing in a pair of proper cycling shorts. Whether it's comfort, aerodynamics, or easier nature breaks you seek - cycling shorts have the answer!
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    What do you think? Are bib shorts worth it? Let us know in the comments!

    • @BobRoss_lover
      @BobRoss_lover 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      No

    • @AnggaSukmaP
      @AnggaSukmaP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, off course.

    • @mixalis6168
      @mixalis6168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Sound great, but prices are a ripoff, like most things in the cycling world !

    • @ANDREWHALL28
      @ANDREWHALL28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Having just bought my first pair last week and done 2 rides in them, I'm a convert
      And I look amazing in them 😂😂😂

    • @Night_Diver81
      @Night_Diver81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmm... Never tried them. (Mostly due to cost) but i they are on my new kit list.

  • @justonemorethingtosee7386
    @justonemorethingtosee7386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I started cycling in high school, I was broke then so I started riding with regular work out shorts. When I bought my first pair of cycling shorts I felt like I went to butt heaven

  • @dcrou7320
    @dcrou7320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    I usually ride naked to avoid the embarrassment of wearing Lycra

    • @leeglee111
      @leeglee111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lol. Silly! You will be seen, protected on the road, that's for sure!

    • @randompheidoleminor3011
      @randompheidoleminor3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I actually passed someone who did exactly that just yesterday, with a branch sticking out of his helmet. I'm still waiting for him to show up in the local news.

    • @jack002tuber
      @jack002tuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This solves the underwear yes or no debate

    • @kjeldrene99
      @kjeldrene99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If women drive naked on the street - they would be life threatening

    • @mr.w5805
      @mr.w5805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can I ride with you??

  • @thelonewanderer.
    @thelonewanderer. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    As with all hobby investments, just buy a cheaper version first and when you actually use it a lot or it has worn out then buy a good version, knowing what you want/need

    • @benszabo
      @benszabo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      but defo not too cheap as that's worse than nothing.
      I'll happily ride 80k in my mtb shorts than a crap chamois that keeps sliding down my waist...

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I have to at least sort of disagree. Going cheap can often result in so much discomfort that the wearer doesn't want to get on the bike ever again. Not good. It's like this with any hobby. Don't be so spendy that you can't pay your life bills, but don't go so cheap that the results are awful. There is usually a happy middle ground.

    • @janclark2995
      @janclark2995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This advice is very helpful, I also think like this

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Going with something that's not right for your body and saddle can lead you to hate biking when you otherwise wouldn't.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ranger Smith going cheap doesn't mean uncomfortable. I have some cheap chamois I love. And I hate that I don't like the chamois in any of my +$350 skinsuits.

  • @ClemensAlive
    @ClemensAlive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    0:57 beautiful retro photo of Hank

  • @thesimplecommenter2377
    @thesimplecommenter2377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The reason why I watch GCN because of Manon 💕

  • @waterfordakadougstg7963
    @waterfordakadougstg7963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    The most important comment was right in the last 5 secs, dont wear anything underneath!!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      The most important tip!

    • @harryvanrijn6366
      @harryvanrijn6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gcn I know women who beg to differ and do wear seamless panties for comfort.

    • @neiljohndanfedillaga5170
      @neiljohndanfedillaga5170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@harryvanrijn6366 yup seamless panties is prolly okay but i have never seen or just unaware of seamless briefs or brief shorts so commando all the way!

    • @MinhVu-in9iz
      @MinhVu-in9iz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Doug Stgeorge I’ve been doing it wrong for so long lol

    • @dwebb1935
      @dwebb1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seamless underwear all the way. UnderArmour is my go to for that department

  • @colindixon9543
    @colindixon9543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Bib shorts under my baggy shorts transformed my mtb experience never sore now.

    • @ArthurHenriqueBossi
      @ArthurHenriqueBossi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Use bib shorts and nothing else and you'll transfom your MTB experience once again! ;)

    • @marre1
      @marre1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Using bib shorts without baggies on top while riding MTB can be an quite expansive habit.

    • @acedotcom
      @acedotcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same thing here I started doing that thinking it wasnt going to matter at all and its actually super comfortable.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      MTBers wear the baggy shorts for more than just a fashion statement. Taking a fall on trail in lycra could destroy a very expensive pair of bib shorts, the baggy MTB shorts over them protects the bib shorts and by extension your skin.

    • @drmoynihan
      @drmoynihan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am a mountain biker and bibs under my baggy shorts is the best. However, the bibs are still too expensive, so sometimes I just do the shorts!

  • @Nick-xu2hh
    @Nick-xu2hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Bib shorts changed my life. Didn’t know about them when I first started. Was going to change the seat and a friend told me get bibs instead. Worth every single penny.

  • @acedotcom
    @acedotcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I feel like GCN should be renamed "its always good to spend a little bit more money"

    • @Malficion
      @Malficion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I started off with a 1200$ Bike... Thennn
      300$ Garmin
      160$ Look Cleats
      170$ SPD Cleats ... Cause why not have both?
      70$ MTB helmet
      120$ Road helmet because the MTB one cracked on a crash
      120$ on front wheel because of said crash
      350$ on Bib shorts and jerseys
      100$ on misc maintenance stuff
      150$ so far on food
      2700$? And that's on a "cheaper" side.
      Not accounting for the fact I bought a TT bike as my first bike (used) and slot it for a 200$ lost.

    • @henric9590
      @henric9590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If your Hobby is gardening or motorcycling for example you will spend a lot more money...
      Have you calculated , how much money per month you spend?

    • @Malficion
      @Malficion 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henric9590
      I started last month so... 1350$~ per month?
      There's also my PC thingy and Car thingy... with 96hrs/paycheck I'm only at 2300$~
      Fun/Suffering balancing is hard.

    • @rainbowlable
      @rainbowlable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      in germany we like to say:
      buy cheap, buy twice. 🤷‍♀️
      since i've ridden my 80-100€ bib, i just don't use my 30-40€ shorts anymore since there is such a huge difference.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lets see in the last year. $550 hardtail MTB
      $60 for MTB helmet
      $25 for gloves
      $25 saddle for MTB
      $50 for pump and multitool
      $40 for gel gloves
      $140 dropper post for MTB
      $20 grips for MTB
      $25 metallic brake pads
      $200 for new tires and tubeless conversion for MTB
      $2100 full suspension trail bike
      $35 saddle for new MTB
      $20 grips for new MTB
      $120 Shimano XT brake rotors and metallic pads for new MTB
      $900 Wahoo Kickr Core smart trainer + accessories
      $240 for SRAM GX eagle shifter/derailleur for new MTB
      $60 replace damaged brake rotor after crash
      $80 POC knee pads
      $360 Shimano SLX 4 piston brake upgrade
      $130 Kali full face helmet
      $170 new tires + valve stems and sealant
      I'm sure I've missed a few things haha.

  • @dontbeadrone
    @dontbeadrone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "Sensitive parts"...how the British speak in "polite company."

    • @Valkanry
      @Valkanry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Along with "Discomfort" and "Anatomy"

    • @andreaslaroi8956
      @andreaslaroi8956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Valkanry don't forget "comfort break"

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My heart?

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're not the British. They're the south east English.

    • @retardno002
      @retardno002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kitiwake a distinction without a difference.

  • @OffTheRailsPodcast
    @OffTheRailsPodcast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Her accent is the most pleasant sound ever. I could listen to her talk for hours!

    • @leeglee111
      @leeglee111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So true. My fav accents!

    • @pigletofgreed7747
      @pigletofgreed7747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      nooo

    • @BinarySecond
      @BinarySecond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Move to Wales, you'll have a whale of a time

    • @danangwicaksono4260
      @danangwicaksono4260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Her voice reminds me of a female scientist who talks about math.

    • @jack002tuber
      @jack002tuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She talked about my groin for nine minutes.

  • @sesarman
    @sesarman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Me: please don't say no underwear, I won't do it.
    9 minute video almost over...
    Her: 8:54
    Me: guess we're going commando

  • @juanpabloochoa9140
    @juanpabloochoa9140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It's such a shame not to see the "Is now time for Cycling Shorts" clip at the beginning of the video.

  • @johnalves2765
    @johnalves2765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Never really liked bib shorts. I was always a cycling shorts type of guy.

    • @ashisha8649
      @ashisha8649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and wear trunks/boxers inside instead of briefs to reduce chafing

    • @clacclackerson3678
      @clacclackerson3678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashisha8649 To reduce chafing people don't wear *anything* under cycling shorts!

  • @officiallybaffled
    @officiallybaffled 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Bib shorts may have been the best investments I've ever made for cycling

    • @alessandromoretti9495
      @alessandromoretti9495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, same

    • @rickysekhon5706
      @rickysekhon5706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is your advice for short range like 10/20 miles ?? Do we need them or they’re necessary for longer riders??

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So as a beginner cyclist, you're going to get a sore butt. As a non cyclist biker, get a big cushy seat.
      From a cyclists standpoint (a fairly green one) with fresh memories of sore butt, yet having conquored the pain. Or maybe just managed it thus far? I did throw on my older padded underwear this morning for a 10 mile ride and I wound up doing 18 miles (this was a recovery ride). Or it began as a recovery ride for 10 miles, then zone 2 for 6 miles, a mile of zone 4, then a cooldown mile home. Yesterday i threw on my good bib (giro chrono expert) and put down a new pr of 50 miles, I was even able to hit tempo according to my bike computer and had an avg speed of 15.8mph. Im still new to the sport but loving the ride, and being comfortable is a huge part of that.
      I think going no pad for 10 miles might be fine for a cyclist with a well seasoned posterior, possibly a bit longer? But i dont feel like my patootie is seasoned quite enough yet, it's a tender young 4 month old babe!

  • @AnggaSukmaP
    @AnggaSukmaP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Yes definitely! I prefer bib shorts rather than non bib shorts, especially for a long ride 🚴🏻

  • @jeffmcilroy7081
    @jeffmcilroy7081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I’ve only worn cycling shorts but occasionally cars behind me get a good buttcrack flash so I’m thinking I should save some folks from that tragedy and invest in some bibs

    • @ChrisMcQueen
      @ChrisMcQueen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes, yes you should.

    • @dwebb1935
      @dwebb1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gives the peleton something to look at! [suddenly the whole group formation disintegrates into chaos] 😂

    • @dwebb1935
      @dwebb1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertcowling4313 How did that 'thong' compare to the Colombian women's team kit, circa 2014? (And then the men's team must have the used the leftover fabric as well: twitter.com/Ultimo_km1/status/511136251370807296/photo/1)

    • @CHEVYbarracuda1
      @CHEVYbarracuda1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good buttcrack flash usually keeps car drivers at bay 😂😂 also bibs are a must if the ride exceeds 1 hour mark

    • @dwebb1935
      @dwebb1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertcowling4313 She sounds fierce! And legendary... I'm glad I impressed you all. [joke joke]

  • @viv8433
    @viv8433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Omg the shade thrown at Dan at 4:33 hahahaha!!!

    • @ChurroWaffles
      @ChurroWaffles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re really running with that joke I see. 😂

  • @stevem.3646
    @stevem.3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In the 80's I rode in those wool shorts with leather chamois, on a Brooks leather saddle, on a 50's era fixed-wheel with no brakes. I do prefer modern materials in clothing. Wish I still had that bike though...

  • @Prad-nm6ll
    @Prad-nm6ll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This channel should be called trolling on Dan 😂

  • @OriginNowSound
    @OriginNowSound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I once had a bike with leather sadle and remember it wss the most comforable sadle I ever had!

  • @javipipes5124
    @javipipes5124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bib shorts all the way! Been wearing them for over 30 years. Definitely recommend the over the shoulder style, though they can be inconvenient for comfort breaks, they are way more comfortable on longer rides. Also, if your jersey rides up a little, you won't get a ridiculous tan line at your waist.

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, but you do still get the famous/infamous cyclist tan lines in other places. As a person who needs to get sunlight on my skin for Vitamin D production, I sometimes wear non-bibs and no jersey. Everybody knows you can't wear bibs with no jersey.

  • @m97120
    @m97120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I must have either the perfect butt or the perfect saddle. Last year I did two 300km rides in a pair of swimming shorts and I was just fine. No chafing, no sores.

    • @jonny9071
      @jonny9071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your nuts must resemble a chamois pad

  • @carlwilliams9624
    @carlwilliams9624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with most of what Manon said except the cost .... if you do a little research you will find pretty good bib shorts for way smaller money .... my last pair were 20 pounds and I've had many expensive ones and I can't tell difference.

  • @nickngyn
    @nickngyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    1:08 you've got to give some quality leather saddles a try, manon! at least long enough to break them in 😂

    • @enotdetcelfer
      @enotdetcelfer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you break leather saddles in tho? or do they break you in. I imagine in addition to a bib, needing to add a strong cup if I was going to ride a leather saddle

    • @simonsaysdie8330
      @simonsaysdie8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@enotdetcelfer Leather saddles don't break in. It's myth and lore that they do.

  • @azadx44
    @azadx44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After watching this, I bought 50,000 shorts from NASDAQ. Now I live in side the cardboard house I made from the shorts' packages.

  • @RichardMigneron
    @RichardMigneron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    😂😂😂😂😂 "No, no, no, actual respectable pro cyclist, that's more like it, a proper pro !"

  • @MB-xx6xc
    @MB-xx6xc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These kits are way way way too expensive... just like everything in cycling

    • @johnfros9736
      @johnfros9736 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      £25 from fdx very comfortable and no sore bum

    • @shainexxxsescrimshaw7605
      @shainexxxsescrimshaw7605 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, it's OK for these gcn people who are sponsored

    • @dreamerzish
      @dreamerzish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Last bibs I bought were £25 for 2 pairs. Shop around , especially this time of year when retailers are trying to shift summer clothing on the cheap.

  • @justineaves1977
    @justineaves1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been Road cycling my entire life and the truth is if you're doing 3 hours or less a day you don't need bib shorts or any kind of padding. When you have the correct saddle at the correct angle and height you can go back to the good old days in the 1970s and 80s and throw on a pair of khakis or blue jeans and go for a ride in perfect comfort. Now this only goes for healthy men because that's what I am and my experience outside of that is zero. I ride an average of 2 to 3 hours a day 7 days a week and have absolutely no chafing or discomfort. Most of the information you hear from gcn and other sales Associated companies about riding gear it's just a sales pitch. You'll read a lot of comments on here about how bib shorts and padding of other kinds made cycling so much more comfortable but these are people who never bought the correct saddle and never properly fit their bike and or they didn't ride for long enough to build up a good tolerance so that they would be comfortable every time they get on their bike. Use common sense and ask yourself how people Road on bicycles for hundreds of miles for many many many many years without padding and had no real problems unless they were uneducated about Saddles and bike setup. If I'm going to ride the Giro d'Italia of course I would probably enjoy some padding now that the option is available but for everyday use it's ridiculous as is Lycra and all the other ridiculous things bicycle companies want to sell you. These companies make way more money on the "stuff you need" than they do on bicycles. Good luck consumers

    • @jessmolfod2541
      @jessmolfod2541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, behold, the old cranky cyclist guy. Heck, why bother with even a saddle?

    • @justineaves1977
      @justineaves1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessmolfod2541 way to go 👍

  • @LtStone1
    @LtStone1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Joining a local Club has a lot of advantages an important one being you can usually get Kitt at massive reduced prices because of sponsoring. Sometimes even at half what it would cost in the shop!

    • @miniwarrior7
      @miniwarrior7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Buying someone else's underwear?

    • @potterthings7854
      @potterthings7854 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miniwarrior7 no the get you new ones for cheaper

  • @manfredmuench2657
    @manfredmuench2657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I started with a pair of shorts - they didn't tell me - and Manon didn't mention - the fact that they roll down over a fat belly and end up very uncomfortably underneath it. If you are a bit overweight definitely go for bib-shorts.

    • @roadyeti3697
      @roadyeti3697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are kind of a Spanx for men : )

    • @gfooo6112
      @gfooo6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I came to road from mountain biking, so Lycra and Bib shorts were weird (still are a bit). But once I grew a small belly, they made made much more sense - avoiding the unseemly midriff seams.

  • @billnoi
    @billnoi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I ride to the store down the street occasionally without bike shorts and gloves. Feels like I'm naked.

  • @pengembarayoutube5146
    @pengembarayoutube5146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:57 hank's granpa first tour de france

  • @j.reynolds3089
    @j.reynolds3089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Regardless of the topic, if I see Manon, I click and watch. She's the best.

    • @kyloroush334
      @kyloroush334 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah me too.

    • @SeanBlader
      @SeanBlader 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Came here to say this as well, Manon is just a delight. Wish the ladies tour was as well covered as the mens.

  • @Cloudimfm
    @Cloudimfm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I actually bought Castelli shorts earlier this week in preparation for a multi day ride with 9h in the saddle each day. My ass is thankful for this choice. I used to wear 'top range' of decathlon shorts so far but the chamois is incomparable betwwen them. Easily the best cycling purchase I've made

    • @waveydavey2803
      @waveydavey2803 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm about to do similar ride.which shorts did you go for

    • @Cloudimfm
      @Cloudimfm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waveydavey2803 I have Competizione, these: www.castelli-cycling.com/us/men/bottoms/cycling-bib-shorts/p/452002620P-384

    • @waveydavey2803
      @waveydavey2803 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks I'll check them out 👍

  • @jeromyharvie
    @jeromyharvie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My first long ride in bib shorts was a revelation. I will never go back.

  • @DJJPlus4
    @DJJPlus4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you believe a small piece of Lycra and a crotch pad is worth $200, I have a bridge I want to sell you. I have about 12-15 pieces of absolute proof that you can find cycling shorts comfort for about $30. The clothing manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank....but not at me!!

  • @benpar8120
    @benpar8120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You had me at "chammy" 😉😂😂😆
    Try the cycling shorts from Aldi for less than £10 they're great

  • @kevinmalone3210
    @kevinmalone3210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's a way to save some money on cycling shorts. Buy a cheap small round pillow at Goodwill, with some duct tape, place on saddle, duct tape pillow to saddle, then duct tape pillow to your hips and back of butt. It may not look pretty, you'll definitely get some stares, and perhaps even be ridiculed, but just think of all the money you're going to save on shorts.

  • @santiandres5177
    @santiandres5177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At what distance do you think you need them? I've cycled a max of 120km in plain lycra shorts and not felt any discomfort

    • @grandad1982
      @grandad1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess that you could just save yourself the money and n ot get any if its ok for 120km!

    • @lkwakernaak
      @lkwakernaak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congratulations you have a golden bum! Riding long over cobbles and the sort would be the ultimate test for your golden buns.
      If cobbles or long rides do hurt at some point and you do go for bibs, don't go for the thick padding as you'll probably have more issues with that than a thinner one. A thicker shammy doesn't equal a more comfortable one.

    • @simonsaysdie8330
      @simonsaysdie8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They aren't needed for any distance. I rode across the USA in "regular" cycling shorts.

  • @HiopX
    @HiopX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I come from rowing, that's already my aesthetic

    • @gcn
      @gcn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aero! 🚣‍♀️

    • @matthewomalley6732
      @matthewomalley6732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I come from Kazakhstan, that's already my aesthetic

  • @flapplex
    @flapplex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not make the seat comfortable? Rather than lots of shorts. Seems like everything in backwards.

  • @emigrabass
    @emigrabass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    at 3:20 it looks like a GCN Romance!! lol

  • @BradWadeNL
    @BradWadeNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While it might be advantageous to get a nice pair of cycling shorts, finding the right saddle and having a proper bike fit is an even better investment. If you "need" a pair of padded short so go for a bike ride, think about why your uncomfortable.

  • @zwiftrogue3938
    @zwiftrogue3938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All the times they show James with the saddle bothering him and they never show him at the end of the hour on the Pennyfarthing.

  • @steveyankou4144
    @steveyankou4144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can someone explain why the padding goes on the butt and not the saddle? Always confused me.

  • @faisalectronica
    @faisalectronica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Coming from sportbike riding I am already used to looking ridiculous

    • @sidhepro
      @sidhepro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got over my embarrassment YEARS ago by riding sportbikes.

    • @ayowser01
      @ayowser01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sportbike on a sportbike while sportbiking 😁

  • @robertpell6687
    @robertpell6687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never had trouble with a pair of M&S polycotton shorts

  • @zacharycat603
    @zacharycat603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chamois thickness varies so much that every time I switch shorts it feels like a different saddle position.

  • @MrRobit33
    @MrRobit33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bib part is unnecessary. Short fall down ? No they don't .

  • @madmonkeycycling9098
    @madmonkeycycling9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Assos. They're worth it.

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't need to wear underwear with cycling shorts. In fact, you need NOT to. Two reasons: 1) the inner layer is designed to make contact with your skin. 2) Your undie lines will show through the tight Lycra, and everyone will know you're doing it wrong.

  • @Arkatuss
    @Arkatuss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I only have 1 problem in bib shorts
    IT'S HARD TO PEE

    • @derekw948
      @derekw948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the “comfort break” apparently? Never heard it called that but you learn something new every day

    • @rinonhoxha4059
      @rinonhoxha4059 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and not only that :)

    • @plymouth491
      @plymouth491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Top tip: pull your bike shorts down to urinate. You're welcome.

    • @dbluum
      @dbluum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just roll it up

    • @mariotraversi479
      @mariotraversi479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For men just select the castelli shorts, they have a very low front. For ladies... dunno.. Good luck!

  • @markypea
    @markypea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought that this video was about why I should buy bib shorts instead of cycling shorts, because I have no good reason to. Cycling shorts are cheaper, just as comfortable and less sweaty. I actually cut the straps off my one pair of bib shorts. They never fall down or move around.

  • @russelfernandes8483
    @russelfernandes8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Important to mention one point from the last 5 seconds, at the start of the video - don't wear underwear with cycling shorts.

  • @rhobson
    @rhobson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buy some decent "lycra" shorts without bib straps. I was convinced on the bullshit of shorts "falling" or moving around and causing rashes or discomfort. After the third "bib shorts", I bought one "regular shorts" and guess what? The "lycra" shorts is tight on the skin, does not move around a single bit, and a decent pair will not have a simple elastic on the waist. All the advantages of "bib shorts", without any disadvantage, discomfort or anything else. I'll never buy bibs again :)

  • @umpolarman
    @umpolarman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I finally settled on Top Shelf bibs from Aero Tech Designs and never looked back. Great fit, comfortable chamois (with modesty shield for us shy guys, variety of designs, at an affordable price. Made in the USA also!

  • @theantichrome9842
    @theantichrome9842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer shorts rather than bibs. Bibs are just hotter and I hate the straps over the shoulders.

  • @jbratt
    @jbratt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Three contact points? I have five 😜

    • @gillesbkf4315
      @gillesbkf4315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wow, you should see a specialist then

    • @The_Dude_420
      @The_Dude_420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gillesbkf4315 2 hands 2 feet 1 bum, I think hes fine

  • @CleatSurfer
    @CleatSurfer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stick with bibs under $100 and find there is a diminishing return on cost. Have been seriously disappointed with bibs costing double and surprised by those around $30. One thing to consider with a bib not mentioned in the video is fit. Make sure you buy the right size which can be extremely difficult with all the cuts and global manufacturers. If the bib doesn't fit, it will be uncomfortable and cause you to think the bib is no good. Fit is just as important than quality.

  • @MichaelRachal
    @MichaelRachal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who in Hades wears underwear under cycling shorts?! I'm chaffing just thinking about it.

    • @careem3463
      @careem3463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do, and the reason why, it's because I found it ultimately disgusting sweating inside synthetic crap that gathers my sweat. It's like carrying around germ factory.
      And no chaffing btw

    • @edwardkerrigan5356
      @edwardkerrigan5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@careem3463 Absolutely!

  • @AirdrieRambler
    @AirdrieRambler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a load from Aldi and they are absolutely great. Very comfortable and because they were on sale they were under a tenner a pair!

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Woollen shorts onto a leather saddle...
    Sounds GREAT because good quality leather saddles (eg. Brooks) are still the most comfortable thing you can sit on while riding a bike. Foam glued on top of plastic is inherently flawed. Sure, it might be lighter, (sometimes) cheaper, and weather proof, it's never going to offer the long term comfort some cyclists need.

  • @ruan13o
    @ruan13o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can totally ride a bike without cycling shorts. I've been riding for a couple of years without one on a standard road bike saddle. I've ridden daily for around 15-18 miles as part of commuting as well as longer rides without any issues. I appreciate perhaps that doesn't work out for everyone so perhaps some people do need them but it's absolutely not true to say that everyone needs one. The only other argument that I wouldn't deny is for aero purposes.

    • @andreaslaroi8956
      @andreaslaroi8956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes it seems as if they're talking to an audience that has never used a bike before and encouraging it to spend hundreds of pounds before riding one.
      Like this other video where they told people they should learn how to ride one handed. IMHO someone who can't ride one handed, can't ride a bike and should learn it before touching a road bike.

  • @Ropetable
    @Ropetable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I see manon, i click. damn

  • @TheGizmoGarage
    @TheGizmoGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely not convenient for NYC city commuting. Parking the bike at a public rack with those bibs and full cycling gear would be ultimately silly.

  • @jensenorofino8192
    @jensenorofino8192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am more keen to indulge in a pricey bib shorts rather than a pricey saddle.

    • @dwebb1935
      @dwebb1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, pricier bib shorts do fit better and move around a lot less. I once bought a nicer pair of bib shorts and then went back to an old favorite that wasn't so fitted, and finally noticed the difference. Old Favorite was relegated to the back of the cycling clothes drawer after that! I have a mid-range saddle (Astute women's saddle) but I can see why an expensive (and reliable) saddle is coveted. Hank can attest to the need for a reliable saddle, I believe.

  • @event4216
    @event4216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I don't know many people who've sat on a saddle without bib shorts and thought. 'Oh yeah, that's comfy'"
    Naked rides aren't about comfort!

  • @Wildschwein_Jaeger
    @Wildschwein_Jaeger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:25 Pro dan... never gets a break.

  • @mrsmith4662
    @mrsmith4662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never mind the bib-shorts (although very instructive), I like the countryside where these are filmed. It's the Cotswold's I guess. More cycling around these parts please.

  • @JonathanPeterssonPiano
    @JonathanPeterssonPiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really nailed my saddle position without bib shorts that left little to none pain or discomfort during my own "at least 10 km every day in may" challenge (including some quite long rides and one Gran Fondo). In June I got myself a pair, and with bib shorts I started to feel discomfort after 30 minutes. I know that I probably need a new setup and all but still, for my riding it held up fine without them. It almost feels like a little bit of wasted money to be fair. (BUT I will continue to experiment with them, at least for a while).

  • @cyclemiguel
    @cyclemiguel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they mean 1 of 5 contact points.
    1. Saddle
    2. Left hand
    3. Right hand
    4. Left foot
    5. Right foot.

  • @AnthraXXmS
    @AnthraXXmS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don’t buy Assos or Rapha bib shorts, those are grossly overpriced. I ride with the topend line of Decathlon and for EUR 50 it is everything you need.

    • @duanelusted3535
      @duanelusted3535 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more!
      I've personally been riding with Fdx and Didoo bib shorts for several months now with no issues.... Can't beat paying £25 for a pair, and see someone in the club turn up with an Assos pair just for bragging rights

    • @katyward1895
      @katyward1895 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or use Sportspursuit, everything is half price! Its really good!

    • @manuelplb
      @manuelplb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The big difference is that with my Assos bib shorts that I bought more that ten years ago and after riding thousands of kms they are almost like news and with a cheap pair of bib shorts after a couple of years they are gone.

    • @tamasvarga67
      @tamasvarga67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AnthraXXmS Same here... I found the top end bib shorts from Decathlon absolutely perfect.

  • @gtabninja
    @gtabninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Manon should be introducing the Cycling Shorts segment on the GCN Show. I lost count of how many times she said "cycling shorts"

  • @davidbarthel5664
    @davidbarthel5664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Before I swing my leg over a road bike without bibs I'd rather ride my motorcycle then!

  • @jethroduarteman
    @jethroduarteman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really nicely presented. A topic that could have just turned into a crude joke fest (which I would have probably still laughed at and enjoyed) was really informative.

  • @thaZEBRAmussel
    @thaZEBRAmussel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved this video being a newbie to road cycling. Would have loved if Manon explained the difference in padding for men's and women's shorts.

  • @fungussa
    @fungussa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bib shorts are such an unnecessary expense.

  • @TarkMcCoy
    @TarkMcCoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OR...you could ride a recumbent bike and have a seat so comfortable that you'll choose to sit on it after the ride, too!
    "Come over to the Dark Side...it's always cooler in the Shade!" -Darth Low Rider

    • @TarkMcCoy
      @TarkMcCoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lizard King No, but the aluminum foil helmet liner is optionall!

    • @SH-ry2xi
      @SH-ry2xi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, nerd.

    • @CanItAlready
      @CanItAlready 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tark McCoy I three bikes right now. All three still have their stock saddles. Only one of them has a seat so hard and uncomfortable that it causes a bit of pain. It's a old road bike, which makes me wonder if manufacturers deliberately make the saddles uncomfortable because they know riders will just buy padded shorts.

    • @SH-ry2xi
      @SH-ry2xi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lizard King You're the clown who's interested in recumbent bikes. Have fun getting zero ass, clown.

  • @roichir7699
    @roichir7699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never had bibshorts in my life. And I don't plan to. Worked so far without.

  • @quagmyer7230
    @quagmyer7230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    After reading the title, this is the real answer, “because we are about to break relations with China and they are the ones who make them” 😝

    • @GC_420
      @GC_420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If UK takes Hong Kong under her wing again, all is good.

    • @manfredmuench2657
      @manfredmuench2657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GC_420 That is not going to happen without WW3

    • @Henrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
      @Henrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so glad most of the mid range bikes are made in Taiwan, not mainland China...😅🙏
      otherwise no bike to ride soon lol

    • @bengarside79
      @bengarside79 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GC_420 We only gave it back when it was clear that we couldn't defend it.. and countless rounds of military spending cuts since means no prospect of going back.. so I think we're looking down the barrel of some quite hefty import (or chinese export duties) sad times.

  • @fumblestiltskin
    @fumblestiltskin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a decent saddle and you won't need padded shorts.

  • @agudoemmanuellexis6564
    @agudoemmanuellexis6564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are so beautiful 🥺

  • @INTEL965GAMES
    @INTEL965GAMES 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHATS NEXT??? NEED TO BUY clip pedals? Buy $100 glasses? buy 1K bike? Buy $60-80 shoes? buy CYCLING SOCKS $5 per 1 pair? OMG...............Even my old TREK cost me $60 LOL..........And my $200 bike 3x8............Maybe if i have an $1-2K-3K-4K-5K bike I DO IT......BUT FOR NOW NOT..................................

  • @252Scooby
    @252Scooby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not for me , don’t like the stress over the shoulders & an inconvenient for my small bladder, much prefere the normal padded shorts

  • @nwimpney
    @nwimpney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never liked cycling shorts. I either just wear normal baggy shorts, or lycra running shorts (without the diaper)
    With a saddle that fits me right, I've found that extra padding does more harm than good.

  • @jasonmarchant1607
    @jasonmarchant1607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The question is - are there really ‘sits bones’?

    • @professorsogol5824
      @professorsogol5824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What are colloquially referred to as the "sit-bones" are called "ischial tuberosities" in the medical literature.

    • @stinkyfungus
      @stinkyfungus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Adding to Halffastcyclist answer - the ischial tuberositites are the lower flanges of the human pelvis. When a lean person sits on your leg, the part of thier butt that digs into your thigh and makes you yelp when it grinds into your quad? That's the ischial tuberosity.

    • @dwebb1935
      @dwebb1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stinkyfungus A very medically sound explanation indeed, stinkyfungus. I can appreciate your detailed analysis.

  • @gtom84
    @gtom84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me personally less padding is more comfort. I recently purchased Ekoi bibshorts (they make padding for given rider's weight) and being it only 4 mm it is super comfortable up to 5 hours (maybe more but that was my longest ride in them so far).

  • @gethinap
    @gethinap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'll happily ride my bike with or without bib shorts although what I wear is often dependant on the distances I'm going to cover. While if I raced I'd wear bib shorts more often.
    1:41 "I don't know many people who've sat on a saddle without bib shorts and thought. 'Oh yeah, that's comfy'"
    It depends how you define comfort. A saddle is never going to be as comfortable as a sofa, for example. Although it should feel supportive, while you shouldn't underestimate the importance of the other contact points (hands, feet) when it comes to 'comfort' as they all effect each other. In summary, if you have a terrible fit expensive bib shorts might help to a degree although it's possible what's covering your undercarriage wasn't the underlining issue.

    • @RU4IRIgames
      @RU4IRIgames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Geth Plays Uke so true. And investing in a good saddle that fits your build. If you’re riding

  • @alexmacchalatte
    @alexmacchalatte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my bib shorts, but it wasn't always so. I used to cover my bib shorts with board shorts to escape the ridicule from my colleagues. Eventually I stopped doing that. Now, I'm rocking my bib shorts proudly with my neon orange socks, violet lens Sutros, and rainbow metallic accented Synthe.

  • @FlorianFreimoser
    @FlorianFreimoser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think that shorts with straps are also warmer and lead to more seating - I much prefer the strapless version and never was afraid that I may lose them due to the missing straps.

  • @cedshred1676
    @cedshred1676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the emphasis on bib shorts? They’re totally unnecessary for most riders, they cost more, and are less convenient. My first bike shorts were made of wool and had a real leather chamois, so I’ve had some experience. I recommend cyclists get the absolute best shorts (not bibs) they can to start. Then try bibs, too. I have both and much prefer regular bike shorts.

  • @FLG8r
    @FLG8r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    one of my favorite cycling TH-cam channels and also listed in Wired's, "13 TH-cam Channels We Geek Out Over in Quarantine"; keep up the good work producing good content!

  • @brandonhoffman4712
    @brandonhoffman4712 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Checking back in, I invested! I was using dakine padded underwear. But i researched italian pads, settled on elastic interface, sorted my way through brands they work with, and settled on Giro. I 1st bought their 2nd tier $120 usd (one up from the bottom) it had a dual density pad. It worked marginally better than the dakine undies. So i began thinking about the next model higher. Found them on sale 50% off on Giro's website as they are launching a new one with pockets. I then went to one of my local shops (sports basement) and found them there 50% off too! After the first squish of the pad with my fingers i knew i was onto something. $90 out the door! I rode 30 miles without stopping on my 1st ride and had no soreness whatsoever. I began thinking more about things, and riding them a bit more. I decided i needed 2 more pairs, so i went back to the basement and they had exactly 2 more in my size, winner!
    Now im onto jerseys, I just picked up 2 from santorini. The roubaix jersey and one from a spanish race or something. Both have cool vibes, i dont like the solid color stuff so much, I want fun shirts!

  • @JMcLeodKC711
    @JMcLeodKC711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you have finished a Tour, you are a proper pro

    • @yannyburger
      @yannyburger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only real pros are us bike couriers. Tour riders are simply bike courier washouts.

  • @vincentlenart1697
    @vincentlenart1697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one whos never found the need for padding? I've been used to using a Brooks b17 for years on my trek 520... recently got a new Emonda with stock saddle.... figured I'd need to get cycling shorts for that eventually... I've ridden every day on it and even did a metric century... still comfortable in regular non padded shorts. Do i just have an iron butt or something? Still don't feel a need for them.

    • @nwimpney
      @nwimpney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah. I'm the same way, but in my case it's a fabric "scoop race flat" saddle. Never found a need for padding, done plenty of 100km rides.

    • @simonsaysdie8330
      @simonsaysdie8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you are not alone. I think too much padding *causes* problems. I too am very minimalist. I like my carbon SLR with no padding.

  • @Astrolavista
    @Astrolavista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always something to spend money on.

    • @R8ers84
      @R8ers84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      worth every penny.

  • @davehysom2636
    @davehysom2636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm 5' 8" and wear size small shorts. The straps on bibs are way too tight ...

    • @AdamRussellCycling
      @AdamRussellCycling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm 6'4" and wear size small shorts (yes I'm lanky). Tried bib shorts once and they rode up like hot pants by the time I got to the end of the drive

    • @6ft8incyclist
      @6ft8incyclist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try. Bourne.com. Custom made to fit and in Durango Co..

    • @christianjansson6806
      @christianjansson6806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same issue - and I don't understand why they don't make adjustable straps. I was even thinking about fixing this myself, but never got around. :-)

  • @boilerdam
    @boilerdam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video is extremely timely. I just bought my first road bike a couple of days ago (I've been riding random bikes casually for about 2 decades though) and all this time, I've only been riding with casual shorts and jeans. I didn't even know there was a solution to chaffing and sore bums - always blamed it on the saddle and brute-forced through them. I had heard of cycling shorts but they looked too embarrassing and uncomfortable for me to try them. Just an hour ago, I decided to try and bought a pair of Specialized RBX shorts. I rode 20mi in khakhi shorts to the LBS to buy them and as I type this very comment, I'm wincing in pain with chaffed bits. Fingers crossed for future rides and thanks for the video!

    • @scoobysid04
      @scoobysid04 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you do more than an hour I’d recommend a cream to rub on before to help as well.