It’s the wins that aren’t glamorous that are going to be really important for us this season. Got to say I was very impressed with Kiwior, was very worried when I saw him starting but he proved me wrong.
Truely. When i saw Kiwior & Zini in the starting 11, i knew we would make Man Utd look great 😂. Seriously with 6 defenders out of the squad, its a great performance.
Funny(not funny) thing is Arsenal wouldn't even be 7 pts behind if it wasn't for some red cards for some rules which was exclusively applied to them and now has been shelved??? No Quansah second yellow today ?? No second yellow for Szobozlai, no second yellow for anyone else delaying restarts......
I still plea for some assessment of some independent authority for the sake of the sports. How is the quality of refereeing including VAR compared with other countries. Are these 'inconsistencies' evenly distributed over the long-run. Do we have a problem with a structure where referees have more than one employer? I dont't want to ignore with what happend. We are no banana republic.
Nice, sensible win - happy with that. We don’t know what manner of beast united are under Amorim yet - not enough scouting data - whereas they have all the scouting data on us, and are more than capable of executing a targeted play with the players they have (particularly with half our defence missing. Again!). We might have wanted a big win, but I can’t really fault the approach - stay cautious and see what we’re dealing with first. Above all else, we couldn’t afford to get sucker-punched - not with Liverpool so far ahead.
Loz my main take away from this game: United’s players are not suited for this system however the shape and setup shows promise. Honestly it was more damning on arsenal to have to play for corners after the first half. But 3 points is 3 points so fairs
United dominated the first 45 mins controlled the game dominated possession more passes arsenal was literally celebrating winning corners fouled goal running in pushing around defenders arsenal didn't have many clear open play chances just their absolutely fruity corner set pecises
Did nothing ? Dude we had slightly more possession than Arsenal in the first half. Arsenal won not through open play, but because of lucky deflections off from corners.
Havertz is peculiar, but I trust Arteta completely. Havertz can go deep to overload the midfield or the wings. He definitely helps to build when the game is really tight. He also provides good runs eventhough it mostly works out with Jorginho and he's no starter. He's also a good target man for long balls and crosses. So he provides some special skill set which Arteta seems to like.
That definitely wasnt an ease pass United for the most part besides the set piece from those corners United kept them quiet, but those corners are such a cheat code my word
Winning with just set pieces, without breaking a sweat is indeed easing past. They didn’t have to try hard in that second half. Trossard was just toying around after that second goal.
We know who was injured 2 years ago when Arsenal dropped off - the one that mattered was Saliba. Last season when Arsenal were in the title race to the last gameweek, Partey was injured for 85% of it.
The Arsenal set piece coach is Nicolas Jover. He was employed by Man City with Arteta, and when Arteta joined Arsenal, Jover went with him. Jover felt that Arteta supports and appreciates what he can do, unlike so many other managers who dismiss 'set piece coaching' as something to do after actual training, for players who want to take part. So, yes, Slot is in competition against Nicolas Jover - supported by the rest of the team to win him enough corners to score goals from. Just like Arne 'just get the ball to Salah' Slot has an obvious gameplan.
it was nice to see arteta start kiwior cus i think he had not had many opportunities to play as cb with saliba partnering him in great form it was the perfect game to get him playing his long balls were very promising as well
Not a single Arsenal supporter ever wanted Thos Partey to leave. Yep he’s got glass legs and comes with (cannot judge) baggage, but when fit and focused Partey is world class. He raises Arsenal another notch when he’s fit, firing and in the game.
For a million years the blueprint against Arsenal was to make thigngs turgid and stagnant. United played a 5-4-1 from the first monute, interested only in clogging space, then hoofing it to Hojlund who has to wrestle with 2 CBs all game. In 22/23, the big narrative agaisnt Arsenal was that we only had one way of playing. Since then Arteta has repeatedly said he wants this team to be able to have multiple approaches so their is a path to victory no matter what the opponent is doing. United aimed to clog, but they are weak at defending set pieces. So we plaued for set pieces. And everyone is mad that you can't bully us anymore lol
I’d like to hear your thoughts on Chelsea this season. You say that Liverpool haven’t had many tough games but I think Chelsea at Anfield actually played well against you and could’ve got something from the game. They are also 2nd in the table and technically your closest rival
ManU is still finding its playing identity. The team is not yet close to where Arsenal is at the moment. So looks like a predictable result. Good 3 points..
The mighty Arsenal, and their fans that touch themselves for playing sexy football without winning anything, are bantering for beating a United side under a new manager, with three player getting minutes back after long injury, that controlled the first half. United had a good grip on the game in the first half, but without losing much threat. They’d enter the final third at will but bizarrely didn’t look to penetrate the box instead looking to shuffle the ball back to centre. Arsenal are good at those corners, they’re dangerous. Yes, on both of the goals Hojlund was fouled. The second goal Saliba clearly has a full shove, the first Timber has his forearm in the back. United subs didn’t really change the game at all. Arsenal will get their fourth place trophy again and the fans will rejoice, because that’s Arsenal.
I don't like the role that Odegaard plays on this team, he does it incredibly well but it's just not sustainable. If we had a 9 took over that lead press role, he'd be able to take it another level and stay healthier in the long run
If you park the bus, come to our stadium with 5 defenders, Arsenal will beat you using set prices. Or you can go toe-to-toe with us, and good luck to you if you do!
Even though they won, this was the game where I realized it really is Liverpool's year. I didn't realize that Arsenal were now just big budget Stoke. I don't think you can rely soley on set pieces and win the title. At some point you have to play football, and this Arsenal team can't do that.
15 goals in the last 3 games relying "soley on set pieces" lol. You people see comments and just agree with the narrative I swear. You dont watch any games.
@@3bladeninja21 i definitely don't watch Arsenal. That's why I thought they were better. They've regressed. They should have dominated us today. They look nowhere near title challengers.
Average rival fans watches another team twice a year and assumes that's how they play every game. Based off last night, I'd assume United are going to score 0 goals for the rest of the season
This was one of the most TURGID games of footy I’ve ever seen. It reminded me of Arsenal under George Graham, when even the thrashings were turgid! But what the hey, even the Renaissance threw up some turgid moments. You could even praise Nan You for making it ugly, but this does not translate to points. If you uglify it vs this Arsenal, they’ll just win ugly off scrounged corners without Magalhaes. It was ugly as hell and this Arsenal seemed to enjoy it that way.
United were so exciting and flamboyant they had so many chances, and it was due to Arsenal’s turgid football that they didn’t have not 1 touch in the oppositions box in the first half ( their best moment in the match) whereas Boring Arsenal had 15 lool. You are right this feels like George Graham making other teams despondent But then again West Ham know what it’s like when we want to pay HOMAGE to Arsene Wenger 5-2 6-0 respectively. Oh yeah and NONE of City, Spurs. United Liverpool and Chelsea have beaten Arsenal with their wonderful football. Set Piece FC OLE OLE
Don't think they dominated us they just sat deep and played for corners we actually went for it but just didn't have the players that were confident enough to get the ball foward everytime we moved up the field dalot or malacia would go back
No corners at all as well lol. You had the Dalot shot and the raya save from the header. Arsenal just upped the levels and United were scared of the corners loool
@@riichobamin7612yes. Dominated. You guys had barely any chances on goal (the ones you did ironically were from set pieces), 0 corners. We got 13 corners, which in case you didn’t know you get when you are on attack lmao
@@megaspatz1 look at the stats 🤦🏻🤷🏻. 51% possesion is NOT domination. And scoring 2 goals, the 2nd one being a lucky deflection off Saliba's back, from corners IS NOT domination.
Could it really have been 4 or 5? If you said that then United could also have scored their only 3 chances, making it 3-3 or 4-3 or something. Arsenal were shit creating chances from open play. And when they created one they couldnt finish it.
Stoke relied on freak throw-ins and literally chucking the ball directly into the goal from said throw-ins. How is that similar to Arsenal having corner kicks and free kick set-piece masterclasses?
It’s the wins that aren’t glamorous that are going to be really important for us this season. Got to say I was very impressed with Kiwior, was very worried when I saw him starting but he proved me wrong.
Amen. His best performance for Arsenal IMO
youre never winning the league playing like stoke city trust me
@@miller3784 you win by accumulating the most points!
Truely. When i saw Kiwior & Zini in the starting 11, i knew we would make Man Utd look great 😂. Seriously with 6 defenders out of the squad, its a great performance.
Amazing to see the comments on here that Arsenal aren’t allowed to have a Plan B.
This is their plan A
@@averma12 nah it just seems that way because they’re so good at them. Plan A is actually playing football - which btw Arsenal do extremely well
They used to criticise us for not having a plan B and now they criticise us for having one ,can’t win 🤷♂️
Ps Kiwior is a really sound player. I’d go into most games happy with him starting.
The united fans self soothing and coping in the comments are amazing
New manager, new system against one of the best teams away from home, got done by 2 corners, we can take that and not feel too bad
Funny(not funny) thing is Arsenal wouldn't even be 7 pts behind if it wasn't for some red cards for some rules which was exclusively applied to them and now has been shelved??? No Quansah second yellow today ?? No second yellow for Szobozlai, no second yellow for anyone else delaying restarts......
I still plea for some assessment of some independent authority for the sake of the sports. How is the quality of refereeing including VAR compared with other countries. Are these 'inconsistencies' evenly distributed over the long-run. Do we have a problem with a structure where referees have more than one employer?
I dont't want to ignore with what happend. We are no banana republic.
God you people are insufferable
Don’t bother bro, rivals seem to forego logic when speaking about Arsenal 😂
@@nba2K1318593830😂😂😂 comment sections are not for the weak. Go to bed old man.
Has anyone else even been booked for delaying a restart yet?
Nice, sensible win - happy with that. We don’t know what manner of beast united are under Amorim yet - not enough scouting data - whereas they have all the scouting data on us, and are more than capable of executing a targeted play with the players they have (particularly with half our defence missing. Again!). We might have wanted a big win, but I can’t really fault the approach - stay cautious and see what we’re dealing with first. Above all else, we couldn’t afford to get sucker-punched - not with Liverpool so far ahead.
Exactly it took arsenal 45.mims to figure out united. Second half they did nothing. Once analyst scout 10 games for amorin. We would know more
Loz my main take away from this game: United’s players are not suited for this system however the shape and setup shows promise. Honestly it was more damning on arsenal to have to play for corners after the first half. But 3 points is 3 points so fairs
United dominated the first 45 mins controlled the game dominated possession more passes arsenal was literally celebrating winning corners fouled goal running in pushing around defenders arsenal didn't have many clear open play chances just their absolutely fruity corner set pecises
@@dndkillaztreble5317 I couldn’t have said it better myself
@@dndkillaztreble5317 United had 0.08xG and two shots, none at goal, entire first half.
Do you people even know what 'dominate' means?
@@dndkillaztreble5317You are what we call, deluded.
@@dndkillaztreble5317utd had 2 shorts on target the entire game and racked up an xg of 0.22 lmao.
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Thats dominating according to you?
United did absolutely nothing. They parked 5 buses in the first half, and created absolutely nothing. The second half was a training exercise.
Did nothing ? Dude we had slightly more possession than Arsenal in the first half. Arsenal won not through open play, but because of lucky deflections off from corners.
@@riichobamin7612ok 👍
@@riichobamin7612 You scored 0, hence did 0.
@@riichobamin7612 0 chances in that half
@@riichobamin7612you were treated like spurs.. given possession because United are not a threat in possession. 0.08 xg in the first halve shows it
Havertz is peculiar, but I trust Arteta completely. Havertz can go deep to overload the midfield or the wings. He definitely helps to build when the game is really tight. He also provides good runs eventhough it mostly works out with Jorginho and he's no starter. He's also a good target man for long balls and crosses. So he provides some special skill set which Arteta seems to like.
That definitely wasnt an ease pass United for the most part besides the set piece from those corners United kept them quiet, but those corners are such a cheat code my word
Facts
Breezed past them. United offered nothing.
Winning with just set pieces, without breaking a sweat is indeed easing past. They didn’t have to try hard in that second half. Trossard was just toying around after that second goal.
Manchester United weren't great but the structure is clear for the first time in who knows how long. Amorim will be transformative.
😂😂😂 😂😂😂..
Partey never gets enough credit. 2 years ago when Arsenal dropped off at the end of the season, guess who was injured?
He is a beast.
Guess who gave away the goals when we were winning against Liverpool in the first title charge.
He was poor today
We know who was injured 2 years ago when Arsenal dropped off - the one that mattered was Saliba. Last season when Arsenal were in the title race to the last gameweek, Partey was injured for 85% of it.
@@TubbysWorld4413 Holding
Always appreciate the unbiased analysis
"Slot" in a title race with a set piece coach 😭😭😭
If it was that easy, why can’t “Slot” do it?
The Arsenal set piece coach is Nicolas Jover. He was employed by Man City with Arteta, and when Arteta joined Arsenal, Jover went with him.
Jover felt that Arteta supports and appreciates what he can do, unlike so many other managers who dismiss 'set piece coaching' as something to do after actual training, for players who want to take part.
So, yes, Slot is in competition against Nicolas Jover - supported by the rest of the team to win him enough corners to score goals from. Just like Arne 'just get the ball to Salah' Slot has an obvious gameplan.
it was nice to see arteta start kiwior cus i think he had not had many opportunities to play as cb with saliba partnering him in great form it was the perfect game to get him playing his long balls were very promising as well
Not a single Arsenal supporter ever wanted Thos Partey to leave. Yep he’s got glass legs and comes with (cannot judge) baggage, but when fit and focused Partey is world class. He raises Arsenal another notch when he’s fit, firing and in the game.
I did
Good win we need to win the next win
For a million years the blueprint against Arsenal was to make thigngs turgid and stagnant. United played a 5-4-1 from the first monute, interested only in clogging space, then hoofing it to Hojlund who has to wrestle with 2 CBs all game.
In 22/23, the big narrative agaisnt Arsenal was that we only had one way of playing. Since then Arteta has repeatedly said he wants this team to be able to have multiple approaches so their is a path to victory no matter what the opponent is doing.
United aimed to clog, but they are weak at defending set pieces. So we plaued for set pieces. And everyone is mad that you can't bully us anymore lol
Merino has barely played. Man U played a very good game. Strong shape, commitment, and lots of running! It’s a long season.
I’d like to hear your thoughts on Chelsea this season. You say that Liverpool haven’t had many tough games but I think Chelsea at Anfield actually played well against you and could’ve got something from the game. They are also 2nd in the table and technically your closest rival
I'm loving the butthurt ManU fans crying about corners. It's like complaining about penalties. FOH.
ManU is still finding its playing identity. The team is not yet close to where Arsenal is at the moment. So looks like a predictable result. Good 3 points..
I wouldn’t say they Eased. They found a weakness and exploited it. They struggled first half and United matched them.
I have to know where you get your mockneck shirts from
The mighty Arsenal, and their fans that touch themselves for playing sexy football without winning anything, are bantering for beating a United side under a new manager, with three player getting minutes back after long injury, that controlled the first half.
United had a good grip on the game in the first half, but without losing much threat. They’d enter the final third at will but bizarrely didn’t look to penetrate the box instead looking to shuffle the ball back to centre.
Arsenal are good at those corners, they’re dangerous. Yes, on both of the goals Hojlund was fouled. The second goal Saliba clearly has a full shove, the first Timber has his forearm in the back.
United subs didn’t really change the game at all.
Arsenal will get their fourth place trophy again and the fans will rejoice, because that’s Arsenal.
I don't like the role that Odegaard plays on this team, he does it incredibly well but it's just not sustainable. If we had a 9 took over that lead press role, he'd be able to take it another level and stay healthier in the long run
If you park the bus, come to our stadium with 5 defenders, Arsenal will beat you using set prices. Or you can go toe-to-toe with us, and good luck to you if you do!
Even though they won, this was the game where I realized it really is Liverpool's year. I didn't realize that Arsenal were now just big budget Stoke. I don't think you can rely soley on set pieces and win the title. At some point you have to play football, and this Arsenal team can't do that.
15 goals in the last 3 games relying "soley on set pieces" lol. You people see comments and just agree with the narrative I swear. You dont watch any games.
Arsenal have scored 28 goals and 6 have been from set pieces let that sink in 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@3bladeninja21 i definitely don't watch Arsenal. That's why I thought they were better. They've regressed. They should have dominated us today. They look nowhere near title challengers.
Average rival fans watches another team twice a year and assumes that's how they play every game.
Based off last night, I'd assume United are going to score 0 goals for the rest of the season
@@jamespace5429 man istg haha
Exactly how many goals can a team score from boring corners in the course of a season? 40-ish?
They scored 15 in their last 4 games. Count how many of them were corners then you calculate from there
6 out of 28 this season 😅
It was 50/50 possession how is that easing 😂
This was one of the most TURGID games of footy I’ve ever seen. It reminded me of Arsenal under George Graham, when even the thrashings were turgid! But what the hey, even the Renaissance threw up some turgid moments. You could even praise Nan You for making it ugly, but this does not translate to points. If you uglify it vs this Arsenal, they’ll just win ugly off scrounged corners without Magalhaes. It was ugly as hell and this Arsenal seemed to enjoy it that way.
United were so exciting and flamboyant they had so many chances, and it was due to Arsenal’s turgid football that they didn’t have not 1 touch in the oppositions box in the first half ( their best moment in the match) whereas Boring Arsenal had 15 lool.
You are right this feels like George Graham making other teams despondent
But then again West Ham know what it’s like when we want to pay HOMAGE to Arsene Wenger 5-2 6-0 respectively.
Oh yeah and NONE of City, Spurs. United Liverpool and Chelsea have beaten Arsenal with their wonderful football.
Set Piece FC OLE OLE
Don't think they dominated us they just sat deep and played for corners we actually went for it but just didn't have the players that were confident enough to get the ball foward everytime we moved up the field dalot or malacia would go back
"Went for it" 0.2 xg. No touches in Arsenals box the whole 1st half. 5 at the back. Really went for it.
No corners at all as well lol. You had the Dalot shot and the raya save from the header.
Arsenal just upped the levels and United were scared of the corners loool
@3bladeninja21 did u read the rest of it or did u just stop after u seen that 🤔
@@brandononeill604 I read it. By "Went for it" you mean meaningless possession in a mid block with 5 at the back.
What did United do? They played for a 0-0 and created ZERO chances. They were dominated. It could have been 4 or 5 nil easy. Outclassed.
Dominated ? How ? Arsenal have 51% possesion and most of their chances and all of the goals came from corners. They were weak in open play.
@@riichobamin7612yes. Dominated. You guys had barely any chances on goal (the ones you did ironically were from set pieces), 0 corners. We got 13 corners, which in case you didn’t know you get when you are on attack lmao
@@megaspatz1 look at the stats 🤦🏻🤷🏻. 51% possesion is NOT domination. And scoring 2 goals, the 2nd one being a lucky deflection off Saliba's back, from corners IS NOT domination.
Could it really have been 4 or 5? If you said that then United could also have scored their only 3 chances, making it 3-3 or 4-3 or something. Arsenal were shit creating chances from open play. And when they created one they couldnt finish it.
@@riichobamin7612 possession does not mean shit when you only have 2 shots on target and a 0.22 xg mate 😂
Isak
The title is never a race. ‘Title race’ is just crap writing. It’s not a race. It’s just a long sequence of short races.
eased 😂
United did absolutely nothing all game, even when they dominated the ball
👊🏿🙏🏿🫡
arsenal fc❌Stoke ✅
Ya,why break a sweat when playing against a team that offered nothing but passing backwards & parking the bus.. salty tears
I wonder how many stoke FC have scored now in the last few games
Stoke relied on freak throw-ins and literally chucking the ball directly into the goal from said throw-ins. How is that similar to Arsenal having corner kicks and free kick set-piece masterclasses?
Ease wtf wete you watching, that was Stoke City 2.0
Arsenal were all over yous wtf wete you watching?
So United and Amorim lost to Stoke City 2.0?
Ease is a fair description when one team creates zero threat, and keeps offering up a clear weakness, yes.
The team with 0.2 xg and no touches in the opposition box in the first half you mean?
So essentially you lost to Stoke. I dunno know if that's a good thing 😅
Boring till a set piece 😴
15 goals in the last 4. Your problem you cant deal with corners
Bullshit. "eased" past United with Stoke city corners.
Mate united did fuck all, arsenal never needed to get out of second gear
If it’s easy why didn’t Amorim do it
@@karani_the_one I never said anything was easy you tool
Clearly didn’t watch the game. United were shit.
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