These three might not be everyone's favourite, but they rise to the occasion here. I wish all political discourse was as civil, insightful and intellectually playful as like this.
The level of online hate that Diane receives is so unfounded, there are mps that are more left wing or have made far more gaffes. One can disagree with someone without spewing vitriol.
What i admire about Diane is that she is honest and really believes what she says. i do not agree with a lot she says but she is honest. I could see Tim and Diane have respect for each other.
Never had time for D Abbot, still don’t, however it’s nice to see shes defended the WASPI women in the prime ministers question time 18/12/2024. Tims quite a measured man. 1st time I’ve watch anything from the BBC in 15y
Diane Abbott completely not reading the room when it comes to reform and the conservatives. We form will no way join the conservatives it’s the conservative that will bounce over to Reform.
Starmer won because right wing parties were divided and a soft pact between the 2 main progressive parties worked well. 34% of the vote was astonishingly low for Labour. I'd expected 44%.
Musk has power without responsibility or accountability. According to Stanley Baldwin, this has been the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages.
I thought I'd just give Diane Abbott one more chance to make sense. Straight away though she's saying Tony Blair has empathy. I just give up! I truly give up!
Interesting that Diane Abbott is in "eff it, gloves off" mode now, I've been enjoying the recent interviews where she's blunt about Starmer. Including calling him Starmer not Kier! And criticising him like he's the opposition, not her party leader. Yes, he's got no empathy and isn't very good when people are judging him. I'm convinced he is severely regretting becoming PM.
I think, Diannne, the problem is that a growing chunk of voters have already walked away. Within my own close circle, of a couple of dozen…..only 2 regularly watch or listen to main stream news broadcasts. About 8 never engage with the news at all. None read a newspaper. Thus they are prime for snippet news ‘shorts’. The slimmest majority do vote, but tribally, and pre any election they would not have sought out a party manifesto, and the last time, against the conservatives father than for any other party. This is no longer the party support system of Dianne and my youth, but I think both major parties are kidding themselves it is.
Diane Abbott for decades... "Wanting in any way to reduce immigration numbers from 1.2 million means you are anti immigrant" - utter drivel .... And posing as an expert on Trump's vision or politucal philosophy in general is utterly ludicrous when she doesn't even begin to understand either... The large black lady who used to be on Gogglebox understood thibgs far better
Whenever there is a Labour government in power, the BBC gives Diane Abbott a lot of air time so that she can pull down the 'left leaning' government. They will have Abbott on, a Tory and another UKIPPy person and call it balance😂
I am not working class. I am poverty PTSD & OCD legal drug user to control my terror seizures. Of course, my mentally-ill father ran away leaving me with a 45 year old monster. I was socially isolated. She wouldn't allow me to find friends. I belonged to her, her older sister & her younger sister. All friendless.
If the Tory party goes - I for one won't shed a tear for its demise. Thing with Tim Montgomerie though - he is not a Tory - he is another Blairite. Reform is not the answer as well - it's just a repackaged 1990s Thatcherite party. We need something a lot more radical.
Why don't the women let Tim finish trying to answer the question , they won't let him have a train of thought but Diane Abbott & her affectation takes so long to answer gets all the air time, why have Tim there at all ?
I didn't vote until I signed up because I knew of T-man from photos on The New York Post, articles in NYer magazine. Grew up on the New Yorker & Country Life. The patrons gave my toxic mother their used magazines. I never understood Punch. She worked in the Museum. Many basements.
They mentioned "family" in metaphorical skew to political party. I come from a "family" of psychopaths, sociopaths, psychotics (like Ollah Topf, who owned a giant house & property called Orchard Acres, and engaged in conversations with entities in her back yard). My mother was a narcissistic sociopath with Schadenfreude who tortured me psychologically. I was an empath. The new party cannot compete. I love cats. This allows you to know which no. 10 character I admire is Larry, Chief fox-chaser. I hope you keep your party even if you choose new leaders. I used to listen to BBC 4 in Kowloon.
Tim got it spot on from 5 minutes in… we need a reset but also we need him to show that he can do the challenges and turn this country around… he’s also spot on in reform. Reform is coming… but i was shocked by Diane’s response to Tim. She decided not to listen! The left and centre left need to listen truly to peoples feelings right now and make a new case (and get better on comms via social media & tv)
Hackney does not run the country, we need big business people to get involved and invest in our country so that Diana can look after her people on the council estate.
I will never vote Reform. The NHS and other public services will die, Sadly, the poor will then suffer. You need to look at the USA, where people become bankrupt or lose their homes to pay for medical treatment. It is simply cruel that someone will vote for a party which will only support the wealthy. The USA is a country of landlords. The less wealthy will never be able to buy their own home. They will be saddled with debt their entire lives.
Abbott venting her spleen as usual about Starmer because he toppled he pal Corbyn. Rentagob Montgomerie blathering on. Poor old Newsnight. Just a sad chat show for attention seekers available late at night for a booking fee.
I wish you the best. I'm homesick for Manhattan & B'klyn. But I have a good health plan : free vegetarian meals : 14 delivered every 2 weeks. Heat on 350°f for 20 mins. Since October. And Orabges! I was raised on Arthouse foreign films including Sir Alec Guiness' Horses Mouth & The Ladykillers ("where's your sense of humour, One Round? ")
Starmer is an omnishambles but thank god the conversation was wider than the usual pile on - he will make or break in next 6mths, probably break if there's a recession caused by continuing higher interest rates. It is sadly too late for the UK as the running costs are financed by unsustainable tax rises and public debt. Smart employable Brits will gravitate to higher opportunity economies and tax havens. Those left will get whatever they're given.
I love listening to and watching you. You seem totally honest & kind. I hope the entangling Russian linen warp & woof shuttles into a better network. I own Russian pure linen & mixed linen and cotton napkins from 19th century wooden looms in Russia. I never had money. Only the dole for disabled. But I lived off others, who, not rich, had enough for rent, treats, food.
Do you watch Ainu's Irish Garden with Terri Conroy, her 2 dogs & older cat. Recently, she added ne cats/kittens. She created a wilderness out of rocky lifeless soil & made an old dump into a gawjeous ("Belle") house. And she can Knit.
Elon Musk!?!?? To Mars. With the worst one : Jeff Bezos. I've been a WFM Person since December 19 1996. But I refuse Prime. Even though, poor as I am on CalFresh Foodstamps, EBT, I can have "free" Amazon Prime. Send 'em both to Mars.
Therefore, you will hold a new election for the Labour party with that other dude who would be better with empathy. I know empathy. I've paid for being hypersensitive & neurodivergent. I howl; Hermione Wintrop and I howl in the night over Charlie ( who died of a sudden ghastly disease ~ September 22nd 2022). Hermione never said meow. She's a trill, coo, chirp. But after Charlie died and gary cremated her paying his own $50. at the Pasadena cat rescue shelter. I have her certificate. We wake up crying & screaming.
BBC Newsnight has turned into some kind of weired chat show. I this episode, we're treated to the presence of an eccentric version of Diane Abbott, complete with vocal fry and upspeak! Very sad to see the crown of BBC current affairs turn into a poor version of Graham Norton!
I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say that we all love Sir Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves but they must now resign immediately for the sake of the country and the party
@thomasxl3975 TV's Jonathan Ashworth. Lord Mandelson has been jettisoned to the US because he was working behind the scenes here to get Mr Ashworth into power, LIKE EVERYONE IN THE UK WANTS. Starmer has to go
Diane, if you are reading this i'm speaking as a person of Caribbean heritage in the UK. You are auntie Diane. You are loved, deeply. You are an inspiration. Ypu spent a lifetime truly showing up and never selling out your people. Not once. Your stance hindered your career advancement many times, until Corbyn gained power in the party and allowed your obvious talents to rise to the place you deserved to be, on the front bench. You, because you are a black woman have been maligned denigrated picked on, suffered hideous abuse and the most egregious thing to me, were called stupid. Despite your being educated in this country's highest seat of study despite the obstacles, despite your innate sensr of moral direction. All of these slights unserestimations and character assassinations were laid at your feet because you refused to sell US out. You were and are unapologetically BLACK. You chose to stand with and by your people. That is why when Starmer tried his best to kick you out and it came to a head ad the election loomed, him believing he could quietly end your career, your people stood by you and refuaed to let that happe . NOT on pur watch. What you deserved at this stage of your carrer was a l ast hurrah, to be Mother of the House, given respect, allowed to make more parliamentary interventions and as the next election and you, I hope, stand down, ypu deaerved yo be in that chamber giving a speech that reflects your dignity and hard work before you are cheered on to the end. A celebration of your advancement of our people. Then trying to shove you out quietly when they thought noone was looking, because theyd ignored you all year was a disgrace of the biggest order and was the nail in the coffin regarding what I think of Starmer. I say last hurrah because Diane. You have done ENOUGH for us. You need not suffer any more. You have health issues, and are happily past retirement age . We can't expect any more from you. What ai and our people really want is for you to skip off into the sunset, put your feet up, do the occasional rounds as a pundit as the wise elder you are, and to get your behind some regular sun backa yard! What we do not want is for you to keep going until you collapse. Do not give these people and this country every last shred of you. Remember, you have done us proud.no matter what certain demographics have to say about you, you know and we know your importance, your relevance and the ceilings you smashed to make it easier for the Dawns and Osamars of the world to come in and be BLACK. Aauntie Dianez we salute you. And we are here to defend and cherish you against any and all. This might all sound a bit sentimental but every word is meant. The importance of seeing ourselves reflected in parliament is incalculable. The biggest pity is the void you will leave when the time comes because Labour hace done close to zero to engage with and promote our people. There is no real replacement. Who knows, maybe I should try. Youve done it; we can do it. I truly fear for this country as Starmer prives to be an ineffective oaf who lets be clear and honest,cares zilch for black and brown people and is paving rhe way for Reform to take over. Its like he wants it to happen. What we really need is someone like Burnham to takr the reigns. Tell him to get his seat back and wrestle whats left of the Labour party from the fake politician Starmer. Anyway god bless Diane!!
These three might not be everyone's favourite, but they rise to the occasion here. I wish all political discourse was as civil, insightful and intellectually playful as like this.
I was never very keen on Abbott but she really impressed me with her speech on the assisted dying bill
The level of online hate that Diane receives is so unfounded, there are mps that are more left wing or have made far more gaffes. One can disagree with someone without spewing vitriol.
Simply racist mysogyny
I like how kind and respectful Tim is to Dianne , despite being really quite opposite end of the spectrum. It’s quite touching.
Nice to see two different politicians just getting along…
The Tory Party is Conservative by Name but Liberal in reality and that's why i have joined Reform.
What i admire about Diane is that she is honest and really believes what she says. i do not agree with a lot she says but she is honest. I could see Tim and Diane have respect for each other.
Diane Abbott is so tedious.
Just like with Maths Diane Abbott is an expert on populism 😂
Thanks for remind8ng me - Abacus Abbott
And here we hear the politicians lament
"Oh why do people hate us, and not the people we tell media to tell them to hate?"
Never had time for D Abbot, still don’t, however it’s nice to see shes defended the WASPI women in the prime ministers question time 18/12/2024.
Tims quite a measured man.
1st time I’ve watch anything from the BBC in 15y
imo Tim is well beyond the ‘spectrum!’
Diane Abbott completely not reading the room when it comes to reform and the conservatives. We form will no way join the conservatives it’s the conservative that will bounce over to Reform.
Hopefully Reform will no longer exist at the next election and the tories will have moved back to the centre and will have an electable leader
I like both of these politicians. They are very honest and say what they think.
Starmer won because right wing parties were divided and a soft pact between the 2 main progressive parties worked well. 34% of the vote was astonishingly low for Labour. I'd expected 44%.
Musk has power without responsibility or accountability. According to Stanley Baldwin, this has been the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages.
I thought I'd just give Diane Abbott one more chance to make sense. Straight away though she's saying Tony Blair has empathy. I just give up! I truly give up!
Prof JB Peterson says lack of empathy is a big symptom of psychopathy
She never lets anyone speak!
Interesting that Diane Abbott is in "eff it, gloves off" mode now, I've been enjoying the recent interviews where she's blunt about Starmer. Including calling him Starmer not Kier! And criticising him like he's the opposition, not her party leader. Yes, he's got no empathy and isn't very good when people are judging him. I'm convinced he is severely regretting becoming PM.
Makes a change,to hear Dianne talking sense.
Diane is actually growing on me. New found respect for her.
Diane brilliant telling the truth about stupid Keir 👏
Pretty tedious when Victoria Catlady is interviewing.. Andrew Neil & Michael Portillo used to properly hold this woman to account.
Always about Diane
I think, Diannne, the problem is that a growing chunk of voters have already walked away. Within my own close circle, of a couple of dozen…..only 2 regularly watch or listen to main stream news broadcasts. About 8 never engage with the news at all. None read a newspaper.
Thus they are prime for snippet news ‘shorts’. The slimmest majority do vote, but tribally, and pre any election they would not have sought out a party manifesto, and the last time, against the conservatives father than for any other party.
This is no longer the party support system of Dianne and my youth, but I think both major parties are kidding themselves it is.
Tim looks very tired. Nervous. Sleeping?Check blood pressure, see doctor.
Diane Abbott for decades... "Wanting in any way to reduce immigration numbers from 1.2 million means you are anti immigrant" - utter drivel .... And posing as an expert on Trump's vision or politucal philosophy in general is utterly ludicrous when she doesn't even begin to understand either... The large black lady who used to be on Gogglebox understood thibgs far better
Gawd Diane Abbott's vocal fry is so annoying
Yeah I think she must have invented it!
09:01 - Yes, you just heard Diane Abbott, known for getting her numbers mixed up, say someone else can't count! Hahahahaha
Diane Abbot can’t see the wood from the trees
what i like bout the conservatives is that they welcome 'debate' whether positive or negative, no???
Whenever there is a Labour government in power, the BBC gives Diane Abbott a lot of air time so that she can pull down the 'left leaning' government.
They will have Abbott on, a Tory and another UKIPPy person and call it balance😂
Join reform vote reform
Fight the vile politics of the anti British Reform party
I am not working class. I am poverty PTSD & OCD legal drug user to control my terror seizures. Of course, my mentally-ill father ran away leaving me with a 45 year old monster. I was socially isolated. She wouldn't allow me to find friends. I belonged to her, her older sister & her younger sister. All friendless.
am not sure lady in her council flat in Hackney's as important as, say, tutor fees, with respect???
If the Tory party goes - I for one won't shed a tear for its demise. Thing with Tim Montgomerie though - he is not a Tory - he is another Blairite.
Reform is not the answer as well - it's just a repackaged 1990s Thatcherite party. We need something a lot more radical.
Why don't the women let Tim finish trying to answer the question , they won't let him have a train of thought but Diane Abbott & her affectation takes so long to answer gets all the air time, why have Tim there at all ?
Thank you, Diane. Elon Musk coming towards British politics *should* scare any right thinking person.
I didn't vote until I signed up because I knew of T-man from photos on The New York Post, articles in NYer magazine. Grew up on the New Yorker & Country Life. The patrons gave my toxic mother their used magazines. I never understood Punch. She worked in the Museum. Many basements.
Is this the BBC version of Rogan😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Tim is right about Corbyn.
Diane has never been found guilty of listening ... or understanding...
They mentioned "family" in metaphorical skew to political party. I come from a "family" of psychopaths, sociopaths, psychotics (like Ollah Topf, who owned a giant house & property called Orchard Acres, and engaged in conversations with entities in her back yard). My mother was a narcissistic sociopath with Schadenfreude who tortured me psychologically. I was an empath. The new party cannot compete. I love cats. This allows you to know which no. 10 character I admire is Larry, Chief fox-chaser. I hope you keep your party even if you choose new leaders. I used to listen to BBC 4 in Kowloon.
Tim got it spot on from 5 minutes in… we need a reset but also we need him to show that he can do the challenges and turn this country around… he’s also spot on in reform. Reform is coming… but i was shocked by Diane’s response to Tim.
She decided not to listen! The left and centre left need to listen truly to peoples feelings right now and make a new case (and get better on comms via social media & tv)
I tried to watch but it’s excruciating 😬
But it was fine dor labour to send 100 candidates to the US to canvas for Biden? 🙄 politicians and bbc are so put of touch is laughable 😂😂
Abbot and the BBC. A woke person's dream come true.
Hackney does not run the country, we need big business people to get involved and invest in our country so that Diana can look after her people on the council estate.
Why is the BBC lady defending starmer so much? Is it her job to support Labour?
Cos they are all leftys, the BBC are the government's mouth piece, paid to push the same narrative
Diane Abbott.... What a nightmare!
Vote reform ❤❤❤❤❤
Never vote for scum of Reform
I will never vote Reform. The NHS and other public services will die, Sadly, the poor will then suffer. You need to look at the USA, where people become bankrupt or lose their homes to pay for medical treatment. It is simply cruel that someone will vote for a party which will only support the wealthy. The USA is a country of landlords. The less wealthy will never be able to buy their own home. They will be saddled with debt their entire lives.
imho, the British 'net' isn't fine enough, no???
Abbott venting her spleen as usual about Starmer because he toppled he pal Corbyn. Rentagob Montgomerie blathering on. Poor old Newsnight. Just a sad chat show for attention seekers available late at night for a booking fee.
And you're clearly a boomer with that screen name
@@ericpoeperic wrong, Sherlock.
I learned all the UK dialects as kid.
This was so dull and drab Tim could have done so much better. So come on Tim
08:33 - Tim is much more intelligent than you Victoria, so shut up and just listen!!
Two lightweights talking bs.
I wish you the best. I'm homesick for Manhattan & B'klyn. But I have a good health plan : free vegetarian meals : 14 delivered every 2 weeks. Heat on 350°f for 20 mins. Since October. And Orabges! I was raised on Arthouse foreign films including Sir Alec Guiness' Horses Mouth & The Ladykillers ("where's your sense of humour, One Round? ")
Diane you legend
Jeremy Corbyn isn’t the dumping kind
Tilda Swinton : "The Room Next Door."
Fry voice at the start, lefty with that stupid word EMPATHY and the crappy BBC says it all to me.
Starmer is an omnishambles but thank god the conversation was wider than the usual pile on - he will make or break in next 6mths, probably break if there's a recession caused by continuing higher interest rates. It is sadly too late for the UK as the running costs are financed by unsustainable tax rises and public debt. Smart employable Brits will gravitate to higher opportunity economies and tax havens. Those left will get whatever they're given.
Who is Tim?
He takes too long to get to the point.
She seems to be forgetting who her boss is
People of her age and experience care little for their boss. Rightly so.
Abbott and Montgomery……no thanks.
Rishi Sunak. Yes a great person has millions and sits back as people die of starvation supper
Tony Blair 🐍
I love listening to and watching you. You seem totally honest & kind. I hope the entangling Russian linen warp & woof shuttles into a better network. I own Russian pure linen & mixed linen and cotton napkins from 19th century wooden looms in Russia. I never had money. Only the dole for disabled. But I lived off others, who, not rich, had enough for rent, treats, food.
mayb elon will facilitate the building of vertical farms?
Why bother listening to Abbott? She's such a dud.
Do you watch Ainu's Irish Garden with Terri Conroy, her 2 dogs & older cat. Recently, she added ne cats/kittens. She created a wilderness out of rocky lifeless soil & made an old dump into a gawjeous ("Belle") house. And she can Knit.
Two massive irritants
Elon Musk!?!?? To Mars. With the worst one : Jeff Bezos. I've been a WFM Person since December 19 1996. But I refuse Prime. Even though, poor as I am on CalFresh Foodstamps, EBT, I can have "free" Amazon Prime. Send 'em both to Mars.
watching dianne abbott interviews recently mostly from shadow home secretary and its astonishing that she went to cambridge. how is that possible
Elon has a british passport too fyi😅
Therefore, you will hold a new election for the Labour party with that other dude who would be better with empathy. I know empathy. I've paid for being hypersensitive & neurodivergent. I howl; Hermione Wintrop and I howl in the night over Charlie ( who died of a sudden ghastly disease ~ September 22nd 2022). Hermione never said meow. She's a trill, coo, chirp. But after Charlie died and gary cremated her paying his own $50. at the Pasadena cat rescue shelter. I have her certificate. We wake up crying & screaming.
I like Halsey. Do you?
why on earth diane abbott still has the whip is ridiculous
Why are you picking on her?
The reason us because her constituents fought for her. It's also her last hurrah
BBC Newsnight has turned into some kind of weired chat show. I this episode, we're treated to the presence of an eccentric version of Diane Abbott, complete with vocal fry and upspeak! Very sad to see the crown of BBC current affairs turn into a poor version of Graham Norton!
Are they going to change it into This Week?
We need a Trump!!!! God bless America ❤
This is giving me a headache
I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say that we all love Sir Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves but they must now resign immediately for the sake of the country and the party
It’s very easy to say that, but who should replace them
@thomasxl3975 TV's Jonathan Ashworth. Lord Mandelson has been jettisoned to the US because he was working behind the scenes here to get Mr Ashworth into power, LIKE EVERYONE IN THE UK WANTS. Starmer has to go
Replace two clowns with two other clowns. Seriously, the whole of Westminster needs to go. Can’t think of anyone that can make a difference.
@@thomasxl3975 TV's Jonathan Ashworth is who the people want
@@Jones7095 what do you suggesting replace Westminster with
REFORM, REFORM, REFORM its the only way....lol i love the way they hate trump, its so pathetic to watch.
What on earth has become of Newsnight 🤡
Diane, if you are reading this i'm speaking as a person of Caribbean heritage in the UK.
You are auntie Diane. You are loved, deeply. You are an inspiration. Ypu spent a lifetime truly showing up and never selling out your people. Not once. Your stance hindered your career advancement many times, until Corbyn gained power in the party and allowed your obvious talents to rise to the place you deserved to be, on the front bench.
You, because you are a black woman have been maligned denigrated picked on, suffered hideous abuse and the most egregious thing to me, were called stupid. Despite your being educated in this country's highest seat of study despite the obstacles, despite your innate sensr of moral direction. All of these slights unserestimations and character assassinations were laid at your feet because you refused to sell US out. You were and are unapologetically BLACK. You chose to stand with and by your people. That is why when Starmer tried his best to kick you out and it came to a head ad the election loomed, him believing he could quietly end your career, your people stood by you and refuaed to let that happe . NOT on pur watch. What you deserved at this stage of your carrer was a l ast hurrah, to be Mother of the House, given respect, allowed to make more parliamentary interventions and as the next election and you, I hope, stand down, ypu deaerved yo be in that chamber giving a speech that reflects your dignity and hard work before you are cheered on to the end. A celebration of your advancement of our people. Then trying to shove you out quietly when they thought noone was looking, because theyd ignored you all year was a disgrace of the biggest order and was the nail in the coffin regarding what I think of Starmer.
I say last hurrah because Diane. You have done ENOUGH for us. You need not suffer any more. You have health issues, and are happily past retirement age . We can't expect any more from you. What ai and our people really want is for you to skip off into the sunset, put your feet up, do the occasional rounds as a pundit as the wise elder you are, and to get your behind some regular sun backa yard! What we do not want is for you to keep going until you collapse. Do not give these people and this country every last shred of you. Remember, you have done us proud.no matter what certain demographics have to say about you, you know and we know your importance, your relevance and the ceilings you smashed to make it easier for the Dawns and Osamars of the world to come in and be BLACK.
Aauntie Dianez we salute you. And we are here to defend and cherish you against any and all. This might all sound a bit sentimental but every word is meant. The importance of seeing ourselves reflected in parliament is incalculable. The biggest pity is the void you will leave when the time comes because Labour hace done close to zero to engage with and promote our people. There is no real replacement. Who knows, maybe I should try. Youve done it; we can do it. I truly fear for this country as Starmer prives to be an ineffective oaf who lets be clear and honest,cares zilch for black and brown people and is paving rhe way for Reform to take over. Its like he wants it to happen.
What we really need is someone like Burnham to takr the reigns. Tell him to get his seat back and wrestle whats left of the Labour party from the fake politician Starmer.
Anyway god bless Diane!!