Agree. A simple, mechanical car with zero electronics that lasts for 20 years on average is way better for the environment than the latest-greatest ICE or EV for the environment.
@@robertkubrick3738hha ha. So they're half true. You turkey. All studies show that even if an EV is charged by our current electricity grid they produce lower lifecycle emissions than similar petrol or hybrid vehicles. Even more important, however, is that as the electricity grid becomes cleaner, EVs become cleaner too.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig It's not right for you to provide actual facts to the Anti-EV cult group gathered around this silly channel. It might make them shrivel and cry out for their moma.
@@Acolyte_of_Cthulhu Actually it is! I got excellent mileage and durability even from my PS1. That guy obviously knows nothing about consoles, who even says that?🤣
Our cars are an 18 year old Toyota diesel ❤ love it. On motorway run 70mpg at a steady 60 mph. Towing our caravan 36 mpg And my fun to drive 41 year old classic mini just passed its MOT 🎉
Ill do you one better. 21 year old mitsu with 420k km on the clock. Never overhauled - though it really really should get one (or two) by now. Its eating 1L of engine oil every 2000km, n i dont dare push it past 120kmh… but it can do 100kmh all day as long as long as theres petrol in the tank, the AC is cold, the radio can play my USB, n the seats are comfy. Long live the ICE.
That EVangelist writer was not lying - the battery will last the lifetime of the car. Battery dies, that's the end of the car's life. It is part of the globalist WEF plan. If you are going to keep an EV for just a couple of years, it would make no sense whatever to BUY it... LEASES will be the only way anyone could afford an EV and if you cannot buy anything but an EV, then YOU WILL OWN NOTHING (and the elite will be happy)
@@Pentti_Hilkuri In most cases, a replacement battery is almost the new cost of the car. Hyundai are in court wirght now for 2 IONIQs with minor physical battery damage requiring replacement of the battery. New car price is $65k Canadian. Replacement battery $62k. BNear in mind also that most EV battery waranties are void if fast charge too often. 6 times in a row for Hyundai. That fine print is buried deep in the sales contract with the bit about waiving all privacy rights.
It was the case then as I started my repair jobs 55 years ago. Where it is different today is that it was difficult to make things all those years ago that were truly designed to fail. However, come up to date and we have IC's in everything that fail because they are designed with hot spots and then fitted without anything to conduct the heat. They are fitted with lead free solder that is pretty unpredictable on many components and much of the stuff I repair is covered in bad soldering because of it. Then there are the designed in bits that unless you knew about it you wouldn't understand. A resistor smaller than the eye of a needle has a maximum voltage it is designed to cope with but they are often seen in circuits where they are conducting those high voltages with the result that they burn out and damage the board they sit on to the point where it cannot be repaired. Then there are components that don't like heat but are subject to it from the moment you turn it on. So something that in the lab is fine will actually be designed to last 2,000 hours before it fails so your TV that you leave on in the background all the time you are home is going to last that 18 months or ideally as far as the manufacturer is concerned just 14 months and just so that it gets past its warranty. It took 20 years to get to that level of guaranteed failure and they will all deny it but that is what they do. Look at your average TV or AV receiver or DSP engined guitar amp and then think about how long you expect 20-40 million transistors in a space not much bigger than your pinky nail is going to last running at an internal temperature of 70C? Your EV is a spin off of the control systems they use in industrial electronics like train speed controllers but where the later are tough well engineered specialist pieces of hardware the same thing in an EV is a bit of a compromise to say the least.
TRUE TRUE I am Still Driving my 2000 Honda Accord 2.3L Just like Day 1 from Factory with 380k on the clock n Getting good Mileage ~30mpg n ~450 miles to the tank NOT Held HOSTAGE By Manufacturer, can Fix It Myself
It's more about creating a world wide recession in the hope of ushering in the Great Reset and the One World Government. Net zero will cost trillions. Lockdown created a great deal of economic destruction, but it wasn't enough, so they came up with the climate scam.
It's more about creating a world wide recession in the hope of ushering in the Great Reset and the One World Government. Net zero will cost trillions. Lockdown created a great deal of economic destruction, but it wasn't enough, so they came up with the climate scam.
Tell me ... How many people can afford a 60 to 150 grand every 2 years ....? Rich fan boys .... Most people cant afford a 1500 to 2 grand mobile phone every 2 years Or even are able to buy groceries or pay the bills And yes ive had my Samsung 12 for 4 odd years to make a point Til it dies im keeping itb How ridiculous it is to tell the ev fans to replace thier ev every 2 years .... Due to how hard it is to recycle evs most will end up in the land fill .... Tell me how is this going green and saving the planet...? As a throw away society...?
People will be forced into EVs and they will have to lease them because nobody will keep spending that sort of money every few years for an EV... So the WEF saying comes true - "you will own nothing" and they will be happy.
@@mikepickford1 The cost of lease will go up because the lease companies can't keep absorbing the loss. The cheaper leases right now are for less miles.
@@robertkubrick3738 I agree with you... But all these EV manufacturers are losing so much on every car. None of it makes any financial sense. Ford just announced they lost $160k US on every EV they sold last year. The money has got to come from somewhere... I just cannot imagine all these manufacturers are losing that much of their own money. I suspect the agenda is to provide leases for those that can afford them, and self-driving EV ride share for everyone else. That is what the WEF are saying anyway.
Go to any vintage car rally and you will see just how many cars from the 60s and 70s are still going strong.EVs are being forced on us in a way never seen before and this in itself should make everyone suspicious.I will not buy one.
Some old popular U.S. cars can practically be built from new parts. Many of the body stampings come from Taiwan - a nation which isn't talked about much as per new EVs.
I had a RAV4 for 17 years, intended to keep it until is was 25 but unfortunately the waterpump started to leak and the ECU had issues causing problems with acceleration. The cost to repair would have been 3 times the value of the car so i decided to buy a young second hand (2 year old) Toyota Yaris, of course it had to be the gas version, 6 speed manual. Did not want a hybrid car with Duracell in it :-)
Deau. Toyota hybrids are awesome. Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks. Someday I will replace my 2013 Prius with a vehicle with the Camry hybrid drive train. The Crown or an SUV (RAV4, Vensa, used Lexus). No turbos, no GDI without port injection, no torque converter 11 speed automatic, no torque converter, no 12 Volt starter, no start/stop system, no accessory belts, no timing belt, etc. Transmission is a direct drive for the electric car part. And planetary gearset for the gasoline engine assist. An engine that is an efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine. And most Toyota hybrids use a nickel main traction battery. Not the lithium battery. Lithium has good energy density. But hybrids carry their energy in the gasoline. Hybrids are awesome
Your comparison is wrong about the subject as is what Simon seems to think EVs will become. Excluding EVs, how much e-waste do we as a society create and where does that go? I bet you can find great amount of it in landfill and that is worse for the environment (there are no EVs in landfill). This is where we have the notion of a 'throw-away 'society and who do you think created it... BIG companies looking to make more and more profits.
There's a few from the 1830's still going. Only 200 years and a couple of battery changes. The great alternative to steam until black gold finally appeared for it's short stay.
They can just about manage half th-cam.com/video/Ur47okU3eUk/w-d-xo.html (car wow used leaf test, and they even at points try to put a positive spin on it, hilariously)
All Day every day. Funny how the algorythm shows an anti EV viewer all kinds of EV adds. Guess I just really REALLY HAVE to go out and DRIVE one to Drink the Cool-Ade to be a convert to the electric Jesus! Bet is also needs to be a TESLA !
I drive a 1974 Citroen Ds, engine overhauled in 1997, it just keeps running without all the modern sensors and electronic junk. New seals in the hydraulics from time to time. Dose 30 miles per gallon. Been arround the clock an unknown number of times. Future answer is light weight simple combustion engine driven cars. Love the channel and the true logic of a fellow engineer.
I wish I had one..... actually a modern engine will last forever, with replacement of parts that are designed to be replaced because of what they are made of, the metal part of the engine if looked after properly will never wear out, it's the oil that wears out, the metal is not actually touching as the oil stops wear by forming a protective barrier, oil is the most important part of an engine, that is why your engine is still running.....
You also don't need a hazmat suit to replace an engine on an older car... just a case of beer and a weekend.. If you don't drink you can do it in a day.
@@rrnonya5472 doesnt have to be new, either... can do a resleeve, bore it out, slam bigger valves in, raise the compression... supercharge it, nos it, and best of all... leave it abandoned in the middle of a paddock for twenty years and start it straight back up again... if you know what to do. which isnt that hard...
I have two cars a 1yo and a 10 yo The 10yo diesel I was going to sell this year, but noticed the second-hand price for it had gone UP, so I've decided to keep it another year. Long live ICE, and save the planet.
Thanks Simon, I feel so much cleaner now. I drive a 34 year old 1990 Lexus LS400, over 300,000 klms (untouched original engine) I paid $2,500 for it 18 years ago in a flood damaged car insurance auction. One of the best cars I have ever owned. Even though it's a V8 petrol ICE, I feel that it is way more planet friendly than any EVs could ever be.
I bought one..........through my own company because the tax incentive works. Also, got it at a third discount, which is what a two year old one is selling for. Don't do much mileage these days, so a total no-brainer. Doesn't suit everyone, but I want snow to come back for 2 week's of the year like it did when I was a kid.
tbf a typical ICE car also doesn't retain that much value if you try to sell it. Rule-of-thumb for ICE is it loses half its value in 3-years if you try selling .. altho expect a 4-year halving cost for a car you want to buy
We purchased our Polestar 2 two years ago for $68K (AUD). The current market value according to our insurance company is over 57K; a 16.2% drop in value.
@@user-ro9mb7yo4t don't rely on your insurance company valuations for market value....try selling it for 57K....they will always overvalue as it keeps your premiums higher.
@@user-ro9mb7yo4t what your insurance company lists is not what you will get if you try to sell it. Not even an ICE car retains that much value. There is a reason you can claim 22% depreciation per year on a car used for business in your tax returns
Just how many of us out there have an obscure drawer filled with a half-dozen dead old cell-phones? As it stands, the supporting infrastructure for those phones changed, my prized Motorola StarTac simply cannot function anymore.
photos that cant be retrieved... IR transfer? wtf? provider locked, and you know theres an important number on there, inaccessible... moved onto broken screens... cant unlock, cant access... never had an issue opening a photo album, or cassette tape, or record player... now even the kettle demands an account and wifi connection and insists upon knowing your status so it can brew the perfect beverage for ones ultimate enjoyment and post pictures of it to instagram...
Yeah the only problem is ev’s have already been out for over 12 years surely by now with over 40 million around the world, and they haven’t been a disaster.
get that issue with non EV as well... that one model, or certain make... i know my bike is a complete prick to get parts for... or find them listed for it. dealership quoted 300+ for brake pads. can get them for $25 after figuring out what actually fit... still have to machine a rear sprocket every time...
Worn engines can nearly always be rebuilt for a fraction of the price of a brand new engine. Alternatively low mileage engines are plentiful and cheap at the breakers, unless your ride is very rare.
And what about the software? All EV manufacturers should HAVE TO DEPOSIT the source code for all models and versions of the software so 3'rd parties can continue to maintain the code if / when the manufacturer goes under or abandones the car 5 - 10 years down the road. I have a 10 year old iMac in mint condition with a relatively powerful CPU but the machine is worthless since Apple hasn't shipped any upgrades for the OS - AND (wait for it) - ACTIVELY BLOCKS ME FROM USING newer browsers. They've basically bricked a perfectly good machine - and the same will happen with EV's if the governments doesn't DEMAND the manufacturers to publish the source code!
i had a perfectly good GPS, went to upgrade the maps only to find it was no longer supported - phoned the manufacturer who said it didn't have enough memory for new maps - told the guy the map file was 350mb and the device had 1.6gb of free memory it's junk because i can't update maps
@@stevenlissner5752 it isnt just apple. last time you used win 95? may seem irrelevant but somewhere, theres a business relying on a machine running an old 386 on parallel ports... a lot of machines were made back when computers were made to do things like that... sure, can update to new control hardware... but what about that program running it? DRM on games... boxes of discs, useless... servers, down, cant login, cant access... theres the disc... theres the item i bought... useless... its scary to think win 10 is now end of life... yet my 80 year old rotovator with a 40 year old diesel engine starts first pull and can run all day ripping up dirt so i can plant some veges... manual? schematics? what?
@@HaigEngineering The wheelchair battery is constantly discharged to 0% and charged to 100%. It's not cooled when standing in the sun or heated in the cold. It's cell chemistry might be second class only.
@@gerbre1 Hi Gerd, I was only trying to be funny about my wifes wheelchair. It has an old lead/acid battery that is about five years old, and that is about what we can expect with a battery these days. Being a wheelchair that we just use around our home, we just charge it over night more often. Cheers Gerd.
** IF* you keep your EV for more than about 6 years, then yes, it will eventually overtake an ICE car in terms of CO2 output. But how many people ARE actually going to keep them more than 6 years? The new Chinese EVs are essentially single-use coffee cups that will be literally thrown away in far less time than that.
Where does the electricity come from? EVs are not zero emissions - that is just a flat out marketing lie. In fact, BMW just got sued and the courts have forced them to stop saying their cars are "zero emissions".
Also to mention that ICE engines can be melted down and recycled, easily. EV batteries are full of toxic chemicals, difficult and expensive to dispose of safely.
@@stuartodell2828 Are you sure about that? I hear about 80% of the batteries are dumped somewhere. Who is going to recycle the batteries when faced with billions of tiny batteries that are extremely toxic and can burst into flame? We are living in a fantasy world with EVs. No EV person is going to tell the truth.
My little Massey Ferguson tractor, TEA20 is seventy years old. I can still buy cheap parts off the shelf at the ag store and she still purrs along nicely
@@Aimless6 On the Kim Java Channel, a Tesla Model 3 used for ride share in the USA suffered catastrophic battery failure within 12 months. Using superchargers every day killed that car. EVs are ruined by fast charging. The batteries can't handle it.
My 2007 V6 is running fine, I get around 700kms per tank with 4 up and 200kg electric wheelchair on board. Refuelling takes 2 / 3 minutes and I get another 700kms wet /dry, hot /cold, there's no significant difference in range. Thank you 🦕 ⛽
how often does the wheelchair let you down or limit what you can do due to batteries? not being facetious, genuine interest... im forever cursing batteries of one type or another... last screw up on a roof? flat battery. just wanna cut that steel pipe with the cordless? flat battery... thought everything was on charge last night... blackout!
@@paradiselost9946 the machine so pretty good deep charge cell marine batteries bloody expensive but worth the extra for reliability and holding the charge also got a 12v inverter just. Incase, I can plug in while driving. It all pulls apart or I use folding ramps, for it to run up in one piece - the only reason I got a 4x4 height is good for getting in but a bugger for the chair all bloody compromises, limited budget though. Yep shits when you get power cuts cos some twit ran into power pole, or a bird/possum/bat fries itself in a transformer. But then they want us to go EV🤔
My Rover P6 is 50 years old... Same engine.. same gearbox.. in fact, only maintenance items have been replaced. And it regularly does a 200 mile trip!.. I service it twice a year and it never lets me down!..(Phil - in the rainy UK)
@@chris1960 Hi Chris. My Rover P6 has only done 66,000 miles but my Lexus RX400H has achieved 163,00 miles in 19 years without a single failure... (Phil)
@@WheelchairWonders about 263,000 Australian. Should do 350,000 but the age is remarkable? 50 years old is very old. Toyota Corolla 4 cylinder engine should be capable of very high km as well we got it 10 years ago like your very reliable
@@MikeJones-mz5ig That's the point Mike, it will still (at 50 years old) outlive an EV, which we are being pushed into replacing every 3 years or so because of the poor residual values.. I will only buy an EV when electric planes can carry 300 people from Heathrow to New York!.. (Phil)
If a new IC engine is needed in an older car you have options. 1) rebuild it for a relatively low cost. 2) second hand engine for a small cost. 3) New engine for a reasonable cost. NONE of these options are available for a failed EV battery as they cannot be repaired and the cost is always going to be high. Also would anyone with any sense buy a used EV battery ? It is incredible how so called car 'experts' are giving such idiotic advise on EV's.
Hi Jerry. A chap in the UK had his electric scooter battery stolen. He bought a second hand battery online, put it on charge under the stairs of his property. The damn thing exploded, burned the property down, killed his partner, two children plus two dogs and left his in a coma and still recovering a year after the tragedy. The article from the Metro newspaper in the UK dated June 13th 2024. Buying a used EV battery can have terrible consequences as per the above.
Totally agree, Jerry Walker and Johnnie Boy (who replied under). On a different note, I just noticed that you two should get together over a good Johnnie Walker Scotch. To add to the laugh, My name is John Haig, another good scotch.
I know someone whose son has a Tesla which shows the condition of each cell in the battery, and she seriously believes that means that if just one cell dies the garage will be able to replace it rather than having to replace the whole battery. I've sent her YT videos about main dealers saying the batteries cannot have individual cells replaced, and once a cell goes you have to replace the whole battery, but she thinks she knows more than the main dealers. I am waiting for one cell to go in her son's battery, and him having to buy an entire new battery, to see if that will change her mind, but I suspect she will say the garage is trying to con her son, rather than admit she was wrong.
@@johnnieboy5381 In my building an E bike caught fire in the bike storage which is located in our underground parking. It did almost $150,000 in damage to the building and the cars parked next to bike storage. Now our building doesn't allow E bikes/Evs anywhere in or around it.
a typical BEVs battery loses a small amount of capacity each time it is charged and it’s typically recommended you never charge above 80% or discharge below 20% - imagine an equivalent ICE vehicle fuel tank losing a small amount of capacity each time you add fuel until eventually it won’t hold any fuel at all.
I totally agree ragtowne. But what you just said reminds me of my younger day when I used to race around our farm in an old 4wd. It hit bottom so many times and the fuel tank was beaten in so much that it would only take half of it's original capacity. haha.
Spot on Simon. I'm 74 years old and my 911 is 24 years old and all things being equal I will keep driving her until I hang up my non-existant driving gloves. Perish the thought that I do have to buy an EV namely a mobility scooter.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for you keeping your iPhone 12 'until or unless it breaks'. I had the same mentality with the iPhone 5 which worked perfectly well until Apple decided it was obsolete and would receive no more updates. Around 3 months later, surprise surprise, Apple released one 'final' update for the iPhone 5 which pretty much bricked my phone. Battery life went down to around 5 hrs, signal kept dropping out, trouble with connectivity, all pushed me into requiring a new phone. Did I choose another Apple product (which I presume was their intent)? Hell no! I've never touched another Apple product since. It's called 'Forced Obsolescence' and all these EVs, with all their gimmickry & gadgetry, will succumb to the same fate when the overlords decide it's time you got a new one.
Couple of years. I deal with large rental car companies here in Australia. Most standard cars are 12 Months. Then sell and get new stock in. Prestige cars because of this initial cost usually a little longer (24 months).
The best thing about EV's is that they identify idiots. Wait until they start taxing EV owners for battery disposal, wear and tear on roadways, and they are already applying a tax to make up for not getting gas tax revenue from these EVangelists.
What is a battery warranty worth, when the manufacturer checks it’s history and contests it’s invalidated because you had charged it beyond the stipulated 90% and let it run down below the 20% limit… 😢
I purchased my 2006 Mercedes Cls 320cdi eight years ago with 58000 miles on the clock now 128000 . I regularly get between 28 to 55 mpg. The OM642 engine is good for 300000+ and it's still using the same fuel tank 🤣. This car has been brilliant. I'm not looking at changing it anytime soon.
What's going to be really fun, is when EV owners are unable to sell, or trade in, their old EVs, because nobody wants them. What's going to be even more fun, is when they are forced to pay an exorbitant fee to dispose of them, because of all of the hazardous materials they contain.
"The life of the vehicle" (an EV) is four years. Any other quoted number is a lie. Owning an EV after that and you're rolling the dice for battery life.
Well said. Again, I hope more people just WAKE UP! A car is the second most expensive purchase a typical person makes after their home. After 5 years of payments, I finally paid off my 2019 Toyota. It is not an EV, not a hybrid and it is not even a turbo. It is a naturally aspirated ICE engine. The car looks and drives just like new, and I own it out right. I just requested the title for the car. Even while I was paying it off, Toyota was willing to give me good money for it. Because my car is paid off it is like I have an automatic bonus from my job because I can now pocket the money I set aside for my car payments. That would NEVER happen with an EV. If the ownership of an EV is 2 years and EVs are so expensive, a person will never get ahead owning one. In that cause, leasing one makes more sense but again, you will never own it. I like having things I can pass on to my kids. EVs are fine if you want to "own nothing and be happy". I know that is NOT how I want to live my life.
Battery materials needed for 1 BEV can build 16 Plug-in-Hybrids, and 90 regular Hybrids, according to Toyota's estimation. Not to mention all the copper required to build countless charging stations, construct new power plants, and upgrade the entire electricity grid. Energy mix and crucial infrastructure has to be gradually upgraded over decades, not in years. I suspect we have such a disconnect in policy and reality because many countries have a shortage in political leaders and government officials who have proper scientific training. They have become more ideological than practical. It's almost like the dogmatic Communist idealists in the early 20th century. It's like an EV cult that mistakenly assumes that Battery-electric vehicles are going to magically make the world better.
There was a video on this website by a chap who bought a cheap EV at about 8 years old. It still worked, but it needed a recharge every 45 miles. A new battery was about £8,000, but he could get a re-conditioned one for as little as £5,000. Or he could spend £5,000 on a very nice, 10 year old Mercedes with 100,000 miles on the clock, which would easily do the same again with regular maintenence.
I live in the northern part of the United States famous for cars rusting out. A large number of cars in this part of the country are simply disposed of because they rust out. Aluminum is not immune from this it corrodes and these cars eventually have to be scrapped as well. However with all that being said one vehicle I had over 200,000 mi on and the other vehicle almost 400,000. They were both scrapped not because there was a mechanical problem but the frame of the vehicle was not passable by inspection. These vehicles were well over 15 years old. People fail to understand that people who are often trading in a used vehicle with a long life in 2 years provide a lot of benefit to those people who want to keep a vehicle but also want to save money. Now they are making this much more difficult for people who perhaps want to save some money by buy a vehicle they're going to drive for a long time. This has massive economic ramifications that haven't even been fought through on the nature of how cars are bought and sold new and used.
Two years, no. I’ve had my Mazda for almost Ten years, 378K miles, done every oil change myself. When my engine is running, I am confident this car will get me where I need to go every time. I’ll bet you EV owners PRAY every single time you’re in that car.
I have a 43 year old petrol car that's still going strong on it's original engine. Just about to refresh the cooling system; New old stock water pump, new timing belt, and re-core the radiator. Very few brand new resources needed, and that's the beauty of an old car like this. It's much better for the environment than making new EV every 2 years. I will happily drive it for the rest of my life.
I drive a 1992 'real' mini, and my camper van is a VW T4 from 1996 both perform well ad thankfully no technology. I can tell when it's dark or when it's raining. I don't need an onboard computer to turn the wipers or lights on.
In an ICE vehicle you can replace your bearings, your rings, gaskets, seals and extend the life of your care drastically if the work is done properly. This also doesnt cost 80-90% of the cost of the original price of the car. If a plastic coolant nipple breaks off (there is a fix to it) the battery has to be replaced because not only is your battery pack damage through contact with something, the manufacture has no way to fix it without a complete replacement that they arent going to pay for. It can actually be fixed with like a 4 dollar plumbing part saving thousands of dollars but to the manufacture that isnt an option.
I bought a 2004 Buick Lesabre with 25k miles for $8k 9yrs ago. Including purchase cost, insurance, fuel, a set of tires, wipers, oil changes, some maintenance, etc. I've spent a grand total of roughly $18k on the car in those 9yrs, costing about $2k per year of ownership. But over time that cost per year goes down as the purchase cost gets further divided up. And I could probably sell the car today for over $10k, bringing the final cost of ownership down to less than $1k/yr including gasoline/insurance. I drive an average of 12k mi per year. depreciation doesn't apply to old-enough used ICE cars. A general rule of thumb my Father taught me decades ago was that for every $1k you spend on a car (not counting fuel, oil changes, insurance...) in purchase cost and repairs, it should last you 1 year of ownership. And yet I'm getting below that figure even factoring in things like gas. If I own this car for about 1-3 more years, I will have exceeded my Father's advice (and this will be my 3rd vehicle in a row in which I've exceeded his advice). Free Ford Ranger I drove for 6yrs (got it free after having been totaled twice by someone else), $2k Ford Taurus I drove for 8yrs, an $8k Buick Lesabre I've driven for 9+years, and a $7k 1992 rust free F150 I've just started driving. The most I ever spent on any one of these cars in repairs totaled to about $2k for everything (that was the Taurus, $600 for the Ranger, $1000 for the Buick so far). A $60k EV car would require me to own it for over 60years to be financially viable, I'll be dead before then.
Just for a point of simple sums. If you had 2,000,000 EVs on charge at home at 7KW. in the UK. This would equate to 20% of grid capacity. Spare grid capacity in Winter is as low as 4%. But we have 35,000,000 million cars!!!!!!! plus industry new builds and AI which consumes much power.
@@simoncrooke1644 Do the maths. According to the RAC there are 33.58 million cars in the UK. If they were all electric, 2 million of them charging overnight is 6% of the total stock. If each Ev only needs charging say, once a week, pretty unlikely in my opinion, that would mean 4.78 million (14%) cars needing to be charged every day. In addition it takes far longer to charge an Ev at home so many of them will be plugged into the grid at the same time and for a long time.
Take that further. Average mileage in the UK is only 7,400, so just 20 miles a day. Even the small EVs like I have now, it's only once every week to two weeks. I do mine on 3kv as I'm in no rush overnight, and don't want to fully charge anyway. Once the government sort out getting all the renewables connected, it's not going to be impossible. He'll, we soon got gas and oil pipelines installed when we wanted to. In fact, gas is the bigger problem, north sea is dwindling, all new boilers can be converted to hydrogen. Gives a clue where things are going.
@@markdoherty9205 Don't you mean AVERAGE COMMUTE? Average mileage is a different story. People do much more with their cars than commute to and from work or school.
the battery isnt the engine/motor~ its essentially only the fuel tank. the fuel tank to hold an energy thats way too costly and begins the process of degrading the container (battery) as soon as its put in it! brilliant? Nope
My 1929 Ford model A still runs. Two weeks ago I drove it 250 miles in one day. Also our 1975 Ford F250 helps us with pickup tasks. Drove it 1500 miles last year pulling a 20ft trailer to pick up a classic car. LOL The truck IS a classic car.
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Once a large enough percentage of "early adapters"......relatively wealthy novelty seekers have experienced the enormous repair costs, the limited ability to have these cars serviced, traffic jams caused by people without money, pushing their degrading batteries to the absolute limit, very high insurance premiums, cars bricking themselves for either no or nonsensical reasons...and unfortunately stories of entire families being incinerated while just going about their daily lives, the tide will turn hard AGAINST these things, big time. I'm not speculating here, these are all hard truths associated with the current technology being used in these cars. The people lying about the issues these cars have, and the ones keeping their heads in the sand, are the worst enemy the EV movement could possibly have. It's almost like a death cult is calling the shots for them. Recognizing limitations and slow, steady evolution is the way forward...not the clusterfuck currently playing out. Remove all the tax breaks, subsidy on cars, subsidy on charging, grants, company tax advantages, 0% finance, leave it to the market to decide and no one would ever buy one of these hideous turds!
Keep the EVs on the golf course 🙂
With the good old 2 stroke engine.... 😂
Cracked me 😄
Make all golf course into crazy golf course by dumping old EV on the fairway.
And in the milk floating business!
And then get rid of the golf courses.
I don't even want to own a modern ICE car filled with electronics. I drive my old diesel cars for many years to come.
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Unless they are banned.
Agree. A simple, mechanical car with zero electronics that lasts for 20 years on average is way better for the environment than the latest-greatest ICE or EV for the environment.
I remember my grandfather saying "We value the old ways here, and just put up with the new". He would never have bought an EV.
If i cant fix it i dont want it.
Everything promoting Ev's is a LIE!
The worst kind of lies, the half truths.
amen to that.
@@robertkubrick3738hha ha. So they're half true. You turkey.
All studies show that even if an EV is charged by our current electricity grid they produce lower lifecycle emissions than similar petrol or hybrid vehicles. Even more important, however, is that as the electricity grid becomes cleaner, EVs become cleaner too.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig and who makes those studies? The so called "experts" ? wink wink
@@MikeJones-mz5ig It's not right for you to provide actual facts to the Anti-EV cult group gathered around this silly channel. It might make them shrivel and cry out for their moma.
EVs are Nothing but Fancy Throwaway Game Console on Wheels.
Hey! You can’t say that about my PS2!🤣
@@kallekas8551 Correct, that wasn't fancy nor did it have wheels (stock) not saying you couldn't ADD wheels...
@@MegasXaos 🤣👍
thats an insult to game consoles
@@Acolyte_of_Cthulhu Actually it is! I got excellent mileage and durability even from my PS1. That guy obviously knows nothing about consoles, who even says that?🤣
All the fashionable renewable stuff is detrimental to the environment.
Our cars are 18 and 19 years old. Not EV's obviously.
Our cars are an 18 year old Toyota diesel ❤ love it.
On motorway run 70mpg at a steady 60 mph. Towing our caravan 36 mpg
And my fun to drive 41 year old classic mini just passed its MOT 🎉
Ill do you one better. 21 year old mitsu with 420k km on the clock. Never overhauled - though it really really should get one (or two) by now.
Its eating 1L of engine oil every 2000km, n i dont dare push it past 120kmh… but it can do 100kmh all day as long as long as theres petrol in the tank, the AC is cold, the radio can play my USB, n the seats are comfy.
Long live the ICE.
27 year old pickup here. still running, easy to repair.
34 year old 75 series Land Cruiser. Nothing wrong with it plus completely analogue
My 24 year old falcon 530000+km still giving 8l/100k on highway no oil use between services. Rust will kill it before it dies.
"Battery will last the lifetime of the car."
Life time of an EV is measured by life span of the battery,yes?
On some cars the battery makes up 2/3 of the price.
Or its latent ability to self-combust, whichever activates sooner.
That EVangelist writer was not lying - the battery will last the lifetime of the car. Battery dies, that's the end of the car's life. It is part of the globalist WEF plan. If you are going to keep an EV for just a couple of years, it would make no sense whatever to BUY it... LEASES will be the only way anyone could afford an EV and if you cannot buy anything but an EV, then YOU WILL OWN NOTHING (and the elite will be happy)
@@Pentti_Hilkuri In most cases, a replacement battery is almost the new cost of the car. Hyundai are in court wirght now for 2 IONIQs with minor physical battery damage requiring replacement of the battery. New car price is $65k Canadian. Replacement battery $62k. BNear in mind also that most EV battery waranties are void if fast charge too often. 6 times in a row for Hyundai. That fine print is buried deep in the sales contract with the bit about waiving all privacy rights.
I agree Billy. The author didn't word that too well, if he was trying to convince us to buy an EV. But it's very true!!!
50 years ago, my grandmother complained that everything had "built-in obsolescence." She had no idea
It was the case then as I started my repair jobs 55 years ago. Where it is different today is that it was difficult to make things all those years ago that were truly designed to fail. However, come up to date and we have IC's in everything that fail because they are designed with hot spots and then fitted without anything to conduct the heat. They are fitted with lead free solder that is pretty unpredictable on many components and much of the stuff I repair is covered in bad soldering because of it. Then there are the designed in bits that unless you knew about it you wouldn't understand. A resistor smaller than the eye of a needle has a maximum voltage it is designed to cope with but they are often seen in circuits where they are conducting those high voltages with the result that they burn out and damage the board they sit on to the point where it cannot be repaired. Then there are components that don't like heat but are subject to it from the moment you turn it on. So something that in the lab is fine will actually be designed to last 2,000 hours before it fails so your TV that you leave on in the background all the time you are home is going to last that 18 months or ideally as far as the manufacturer is concerned just 14 months and just so that it gets past its warranty. It took 20 years to get to that level of guaranteed failure and they will all deny it but that is what they do. Look at your average TV or AV receiver or DSP engined guitar amp and then think about how long you expect 20-40 million transistors in a space not much bigger than your pinky nail is going to last running at an internal temperature of 70C? Your EV is a spin off of the control systems they use in industrial electronics like train speed controllers but where the later are tough well engineered specialist pieces of hardware the same thing in an EV is a bit of a compromise to say the least.
The yellow peril glue , you mustn't forget that .
@@mikemulcahy52 well, some of us do. I see no Marxian landscape.
The gas tank of an ICE doesn't get smaller every month. Nor does it get smaller every fall, winter or summer.
tbh cars do tend to burn more fuel as they age. but degradation is about 5 times smaller. i would saya bout 1% per year of heavy use.
An EV has the highest range in summer even with AC on.
Horsepower degrades shockingly. ( Petrol)
@@gerbre1 If your summer doesn't go above 80 degrees F.
TRUE TRUE
I am Still Driving my 2000 Honda Accord 2.3L
Just like Day 1 from Factory with 380k on the clock n Getting good Mileage ~30mpg n ~450 miles to the tank
NOT Held HOSTAGE By Manufacturer, can Fix It Myself
Y'all noticed by now that this is not about saving the planet, ots about destroying the planet. Come on. Its not that difficult to figure out.
It's more about creating a world wide recession in the hope of ushering in the Great Reset and the One World Government. Net zero will cost trillions. Lockdown created a great deal of economic destruction, but it wasn't enough, so they came up with the climate scam.
It's more about creating a world wide recession in the hope of ushering in the Great Reset and the One World Government. Net zero will cost trillions. Lockdown created a great deal of economic destruction, but it wasn't enough, so they came up with the climate scam.
The elite are hoping that the economic destruction caused by net zero will help them achieve the Great Reset.
Thanks , I didn't see it that way , but , hey, it does look like that 👍 I am awake to that now...
And drilling for oil and burning it is saving the planet wow who knew.
The politicians that are pushing for EVs typically don't own one. We all know they aren't chauffeured around in one for sure.
Most if not all of them drive a petrol or diesel vehicle...hypocrites.
Really? Which country?
@@MikeJones-mz5igUK London Mayor, armoured land rover.
@@BillyRiff-RAFyeah but that's Britain. It's not part of the World.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig Okay, USA armoured V8 Caddilac. Germany, Mercedes-Benz.
Tell me ...
How many people can afford a 60 to 150 grand every 2 years ....?
Rich fan boys ....
Most people cant afford a 1500 to 2 grand mobile phone every 2 years
Or even are able to buy groceries or pay the bills
And yes ive had my Samsung 12 for 4 odd years to make a point
Til it dies im keeping itb
How ridiculous it is to tell the ev fans to replace thier ev every 2 years ....
Due to how hard it is to recycle evs most will end up in the land fill ....
Tell me how is this going green and saving the planet...?
As a throw away society...?
People will be forced into EVs and they will have to lease them because nobody will keep spending that sort of money every few years for an EV... So the WEF saying comes true - "you will own nothing" and they will be happy.
@@mikepickford1 The cost of lease will go up because the lease companies can't keep absorbing the loss. The cheaper leases right now are for less miles.
It turns out there are more people with those funds than we think. But as Daffy would say, not this little black duck.
My unlocked phone was $200AUD does 99% the same or better
@@robertkubrick3738 I agree with you... But all these EV manufacturers are losing so much on every car. None of it makes any financial sense. Ford just announced they lost $160k US on every EV they sold last year. The money has got to come from somewhere... I just cannot imagine all these manufacturers are losing that much of their own money. I suspect the agenda is to provide leases for those that can afford them, and self-driving EV ride share for everyone else. That is what the WEF are saying anyway.
The greatest thing is that you control a gas powered car but a E.V controls you
remote control disabling
Coming to all new vehicles by decade's end. ICE included. You'll see!
@@knewhunter1police have promoted that. But what's it got to do with EVs.
ICE vehicles: good slaves. EVs: bad masters.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig What's it got to do with police?
Go to any vintage car rally and you will see just how many cars from the 60s and 70s are still going strong.EVs are being forced on us in a way never seen before and this in itself should make everyone suspicious.I will not buy one.
Forced in the same way those jabs were.... 100% safe and effective! Just remember that.
Some old popular U.S. cars can practically be built from new parts. Many of the body stampings come from Taiwan - a nation which isn't talked about much as per new EVs.
Can you picture an image of a Vintage EV car rally in the future. Yeh me neither.
@@mikepickford1it's super safe and effective, I just got my 6th booster andf gefhud vsend help im having a strokefsv
I bet you won't see many British Leyland cars, lol. (Land Rover excluded)
My car is 33 years old and still going great .Same engine and gearbox and being a toyota is dosn't miss a beat.
Hey Paul, we must be related. I drive an untouched '90 Lexus (Toyota's fancy pants cousin)
Same here Toyota carina 89 been driven everyday since 1992 most reliable car to have
Don't trade it for a new pickup 😂😂😂😂😂
I had a RAV4 for 17 years, intended to keep it until is was 25 but unfortunately the waterpump started to leak and the ECU had issues causing problems with acceleration. The cost to repair would have been 3 times the value of the car so i decided to buy a young second hand (2 year old) Toyota Yaris, of course it had to be the gas version, 6 speed manual. Did not want a hybrid car with Duracell in it :-)
Deau. Toyota hybrids are awesome.
Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks.
Someday I will replace my 2013 Prius with a vehicle with the Camry hybrid drive train. The Crown or an SUV (RAV4, Vensa, used Lexus).
No turbos, no GDI without port injection, no torque converter 11 speed automatic, no torque converter, no 12 Volt starter, no start/stop system, no accessory belts, no timing belt, etc.
Transmission is a direct drive for the electric car part. And planetary gearset for the gasoline engine assist. An engine that is an efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine.
And most Toyota hybrids use a nickel main traction battery. Not the lithium battery.
Lithium has good energy density. But hybrids carry their energy in the gasoline.
Hybrids are awesome
EV’s are clearly a virtue signal.
No thanks.
Clearly. ,40 million virtue signallers well done.
EV are blue hair with wheels.
@@Hope_Boatyeah .nice huh
I gave up playing pass the parcel when I was a kid. EV owners are still playing it.
Except in this game you definitely don’t want to be left holding it!
You hit the nail on the head with the comparison between iPhones and EVs a throw-away society
So that way we all have to constantly keep spending our money unnecessarily keeping the 1% even richer.
Yeah I suppose after350 thousand miles and then recycling an ev instead of disposing it isn’t really that bad.
Fossil fuels are thrown away when burning them.
@@stuartodell2828 5% of current EV batteries are recycled...
Your comparison is wrong about the subject as is what Simon seems to think EVs will become.
Excluding EVs, how much e-waste do we as a society create and where does that go?
I bet you can find great amount of it in landfill and that is worse for the environment (there are no EVs in landfill).
This is where we have the notion of a 'throw-away 'society and who do you think created it... BIG companies looking to make more and more profits.
"Twenty years or more" lol...Hell I renovate my horse paddock pasture with tractor and plough both built in 1947!
"Fire sale"? Did they really say tt about EVs?
😂😂😂
I think the irony was lost on them.
@@matthewgodwin3050yes it was. Look up car fires.
I've had my nissan for 35 years! I guarantee an EV wouldn't last half as long. 😂
... more like 1/3rd
You know it.
There's a few from the 1830's still going. Only 200 years and a couple of battery changes. The great alternative to steam until black gold finally appeared for it's short stay.
They can just about manage half th-cam.com/video/Ur47okU3eUk/w-d-xo.html (car wow used leaf test, and they even at points try to put a positive spin on it, hilariously)
green just ask the kids in the Congo
Only amateurs drive electric cars 🙂
You misspelled stupid ppl.
And IPhone15 user's 😂
Who was the amateur on the Nurburgring?
Some even drive themselves!
@@Hope_Boat And crash.
Haha, before this video, TH-cam showed me an EV commercial.
All Day every day. Funny how the algorythm shows an anti EV viewer all kinds of EV adds. Guess I just really REALLY HAVE to go out and DRIVE one to Drink the Cool-Ade to be a convert to the electric Jesus! Bet is also needs to be a TESLA !
Does it on Macmaster too.
I drive a 1974 Citroen Ds, engine overhauled in 1997, it just keeps running without all the modern sensors and electronic junk. New seals in the hydraulics from time to time. Dose 30 miles per gallon. Been arround the clock an unknown number of times. Future answer is light weight simple combustion engine driven cars. Love the channel and the true logic of a fellow engineer.
I wish I had one..... actually a modern engine will last forever, with replacement of parts that are designed to be replaced because of what they are made of, the metal part of the engine if looked after properly will never wear out, it's the oil that wears out, the metal is not actually touching as the oil stops wear by forming a protective barrier, oil is the most important part of an engine, that is why your engine is still running.....
Oh I didn't read the bit you're an engineer, apologies as you already know this..lol😂
Totally agree Nelson, Me with my '90 Lexus and you with your '74 Citroen, together we will save the world!!!
Regarding your choice of vehicle , I'm sure they're councillors to help you come to your senses . 😢
@@alank616 Counselers? Or is driving a classic Citroen a local government issue?
I've got a DS as well. I'm guessing you've never driven one.
The needing a new engine argument is pretty bad because the engine costs at max 1/4 of a battery. And can also be rebuilt quite cheap.
or you can pick up a used low mileage engine from the wreckers
You also don't need a hazmat suit to replace an engine on an older car... just a case of beer and a weekend.. If you don't drink you can do it in a day.
@@rrnonya5472 doesnt have to be new, either... can do a resleeve, bore it out, slam bigger valves in, raise the compression... supercharge it, nos it, and best of all... leave it abandoned in the middle of a paddock for twenty years and start it straight back up again... if you know what to do. which isnt that hard...
Or removing windmills to access the lignite coal in Germany, to keep the lights on!
Do you mean wind turbine, or are we trying to mill flour?
But, but, the Electric Viking says...
🤣
Facts. Not horseshit.
I have two cars a 1yo and a 10 yo The 10yo diesel I was going to sell this year, but noticed the second-hand price for it had gone UP, so I've decided to keep it another year. Long live ICE, and save the planet.
Thanks Simon, I feel so much cleaner now. I drive a 34 year old 1990 Lexus LS400, over 300,000 klms (untouched original engine) I paid $2,500 for it 18 years ago in a flood damaged car insurance auction. One of the best cars I have ever owned. Even though it's a V8 petrol ICE, I feel that it is way more planet friendly than any EVs could ever be.
Not only EVs are. The whole strive for net 0 in such a short time is.
How many EVs are bought by companies for their employees, and how many EVs are bought by the general public, using their own money.?
roughly 70-80% company/gov fleets
I bought one..........through my own company because the tax incentive works. Also, got it at a third discount, which is what a two year old one is selling for. Don't do much mileage these days, so a total no-brainer.
Doesn't suit everyone, but I want snow to come back for 2 week's of the year like it did when I was a kid.
Tax incentive means paid for by others.
It’s a sham.
I'd love to see evidence of a 2yo EV retaining over 80% of it's initial value....
tbf a typical ICE car also doesn't retain that much value if you try to sell it. Rule-of-thumb for ICE is it loses half its value in 3-years if you try selling .. altho expect a 4-year halving cost for a car you want to buy
We purchased our Polestar 2 two years ago for $68K (AUD). The current market value according to our insurance company is over 57K; a 16.2% drop in value.
@@user-ro9mb7yo4t don't rely on your insurance company valuations for market value....try selling it for 57K....they will always overvalue as it keeps your premiums higher.
@@user-ro9mb7yo4t what your insurance company lists is not what you will get if you try to sell it. Not even an ICE car retains that much value. There is a reason you can claim 22% depreciation per year on a car used for business in your tax returns
@@jjolla6391 EVs lose up to 70% in 3 years, ICE average around 39%
Just how many of us out there have an obscure drawer filled with a half-dozen dead old cell-phones? As it stands, the supporting infrastructure for those phones changed, my prized Motorola StarTac simply cannot function anymore.
photos that cant be retrieved... IR transfer? wtf?
provider locked, and you know theres an important number on there, inaccessible...
moved onto broken screens... cant unlock, cant access...
never had an issue opening a photo album, or cassette tape, or record player...
now even the kettle demands an account and wifi connection and insists upon knowing your status so it can brew the perfect beverage for ones ultimate enjoyment and post pictures of it to instagram...
It will take only couple more years for people to realize what a disaster EV's are!
Remember the Betamax tape recorder? Here we go again, that's what I reckon.
I knew after a month of checking up on them...krap items
Yeah the only problem is ev’s have already been out for over 12 years surely by now with over 40 million around the world, and they haven’t been a disaster.
Most of them are in graveyards.
@@HaigEngineering Remember LP'S ? They are back, LOL.
They are like disposable lighters!
No, they ARE disposable lighters.
I like that! BIC EVs, has a ring to it.
Like a pen you will never get all the ink out of them.
100% correct
2 years would be about right
For A EV VEHICLES I saw this gentleman with his EV only 2 years old and he could not get spare parts for it
get that issue with non EV as well... that one model, or certain make... i know my bike is a complete prick to get parts for... or find them listed for it. dealership quoted 300+ for brake pads. can get them for $25 after figuring out what actually fit... still have to machine a rear sprocket every time...
Bullshit. Make and model?
EV will die before their 10th birthday......
My Prius with small battery was 12 years old when I sold the car. It was totally fine.
How many Hyundai Excels do you see on the road today compared to 1990s-2000s. Very few and where did they go?
My car is a 2004 and the engine is perfectly fine, I take care and maintain my car, no apps required.
Last year had to get rid of my 2001 model car because the body was falling apart around the motor 😅
@unnamedchannel1237 sure it did 🤣🤣🤣
Worn engines can nearly always be rebuilt for a fraction of the price of a brand new engine.
Alternatively low mileage engines are plentiful and cheap at the breakers, unless your ride is very rare.
@@matthewjenkins1161 exactly and we don't have to worry about digital apps to keep our cars up to date for it to keep running what a joke.
Yeah I guarentee a Tesla model 3 pisses all over it.
And what about the software? All EV manufacturers should HAVE TO DEPOSIT the source code for all models and versions of the software so 3'rd parties can continue to maintain the code if / when the manufacturer goes under or abandones the car 5 - 10 years down the road. I have a 10 year old iMac in mint condition with a relatively powerful CPU but the machine is worthless since Apple hasn't shipped any upgrades for the OS - AND (wait for it) - ACTIVELY BLOCKS ME FROM USING newer browsers. They've basically bricked a perfectly good machine - and the same will happen with EV's if the governments doesn't DEMAND the manufacturers to publish the source code!
The same cars that store all your information to be available to anybody that accesses it's software to use against you.
Moral of your story? Don't buy anything, Apple.
i had a perfectly good GPS, went to upgrade the maps only to find it was no longer supported - phoned the manufacturer who said it didn't have enough memory for new maps - told the guy the map file was 350mb and the device had 1.6gb of free memory
it's junk because i can't update maps
@@stevenlissner5752 it isnt just apple. last time you used win 95?
may seem irrelevant but somewhere, theres a business relying on a machine running an old 386 on parallel ports... a lot of machines were made back when computers were made to do things like that...
sure, can update to new control hardware... but what about that program running it?
DRM on games... boxes of discs, useless... servers, down, cant login, cant access... theres the disc... theres the item i bought... useless...
its scary to think win 10 is now end of life...
yet my 80 year old rotovator with a 40 year old diesel engine starts first pull and can run all day ripping up dirt so i can plant some veges... manual? schematics? what?
I happen to like Windows 7 and am still plugging along with it until it's dead.
Never owned an EV and never will. Closest was a mild hybrid, that is s far as I will go with battery technology.
Our EV is my wife's 2 year old electric wheelchair and even it's having range issues lately.
@@HaigEngineering The wheelchair battery is constantly discharged to 0% and charged to 100%. It's not cooled when standing in the sun or heated in the cold. It's cell chemistry might be second class only.
@@gerbre1 Hi Gerd, I was only trying to be funny about my wifes wheelchair. It has an old lead/acid battery that is about five years old, and that is about what we can expect with a battery these days. Being a wheelchair that we just use around our home, we just charge it over night more often. Cheers Gerd.
We do know the cost of replacing the battery $20k to $45k depending on the make and model
In a diesel suv. Yeah.
Wet belt engines are the only exception to being as disposable as a EV battery.
Or the Jaguar/LandRover V6 diesel, it just loves breaking the crankshaft.
@@andy530i was that the Ford made engine as there seems to be a pattern with Ford making some bad quality engines in 2000's lately.
** IF* you keep your EV for more than about 6 years, then yes, it will eventually overtake an ICE car in terms of CO2 output. But how many people ARE actually going to keep them more than 6 years? The new Chinese EVs are essentially single-use coffee cups that will be literally thrown away in far less time than that.
it wont. a lot of the electricity used to charge it comes from fossil fuels.
Are you one of those obsessed with CO2?
I 💖carbon dioxide -it provides food.
CO2 is good for the environment, it makes plants grow faster and use less water. The planet is becoming greener......it's almost like nature knows
Where does the electricity come from? EVs are not zero emissions - that is just a flat out marketing lie. In fact, BMW just got sued and the courts have forced them to stop saying their cars are "zero emissions".
EVs depreciate faster than a grand piano tumbling down a flight of stairs.
Also to mention that ICE engines can be melted down and recycled, easily. EV batteries are full of toxic chemicals, difficult and expensive to dispose of safely.
but..but... what about the children? - Greta Thunburger
Yeah but they are recycled not disposed of.
@@stuartodell2828 Are you sure about that? I hear about 80% of the batteries are dumped somewhere. Who is going to recycle the batteries when faced with billions of tiny batteries that are extremely toxic and can burst into flame? We are living in a fantasy world with EVs. No EV person is going to tell the truth.
@@stuartodell2828Only 5% of the batteries get recycled.
Could also buy an entire engine for less than the price of an EV battery before labor.
My little Massey Ferguson tractor, TEA20 is seventy years old. I can still buy cheap parts off the shelf at the ag store and she still purrs along nicely
didnt they discover a Tesla's battery after 2 years has lost 40% capacity!!!!
If that is correct, then it has to be one those used for Uber(Eats) on a DC charger. Unplug, deliver, plug in to wait for the next ride.
Well if you consider the "working band" between the lowe 10% and the upper 80% = 70% minus 40% = 30 % thats adds up to a mighty short milage.
The so-called "bars" displayed by an EV might not accurately indicate remaining battery life
@@Aimless6 On the Kim Java Channel, a Tesla Model 3 used for ride share in the USA suffered catastrophic battery failure within 12 months. Using superchargers every day killed that car. EVs are ruined by fast charging. The batteries can't handle it.
@@Aimless6could you forward the details please. That would be a global first.
My 2007 V6 is running fine, I get around 700kms per tank with 4 up and 200kg electric wheelchair on board. Refuelling takes 2 / 3 minutes and I get another 700kms wet /dry, hot /cold, there's no significant difference in range. Thank you 🦕 ⛽
how often does the wheelchair let you down or limit what you can do due to batteries?
not being facetious, genuine interest... im forever cursing batteries of one type or another... last screw up on a roof? flat battery. just wanna cut that steel pipe with the cordless? flat battery...
thought everything was on charge last night... blackout!
@@paradiselost9946 the machine so pretty good deep charge cell marine batteries bloody expensive but worth the extra for reliability and holding the charge also got a 12v inverter just. Incase, I can plug in while driving. It all pulls apart or I use folding ramps, for it to run up in one piece - the only reason I got a 4x4 height is good for getting in but a bugger for the chair all bloody compromises, limited budget though.
Yep shits when you get power cuts cos some twit ran into power pole, or a bird/possum/bat fries itself in a transformer. But then they want us to go EV🤔
i got a Mercedes W201 from 1991 and its still running. Thats environmental friendly.
My drive car is a 1990 Lexus (original everything). The likes of you and I will save the planet Christian. NOT EVs.
Same here w201, 123 and 115. All running sweet as the day they were built. No electronics, no remote cut off and no monthly payments.
My Rover P6 is 50 years old... Same engine.. same gearbox.. in fact, only maintenance items have been replaced. And it regularly does a 200 mile trip!.. I service it twice a year and it never lets me down!..(Phil - in the rainy UK)
Wow how many miles or km have you done? (Me 230,000 km 10 yr old Toyota Corolla)
@@chris1960 Hi Chris. My Rover P6 has only done 66,000 miles but my Lexus RX400H has achieved 163,00 miles in 19 years without a single failure... (Phil)
@@WheelchairWonders about 263,000 Australian. Should do 350,000 but the age is remarkable? 50 years old is very old.
Toyota Corolla 4 cylinder engine should be capable of very high km as well we got it 10 years ago like your very reliable
My rover 75 is similar. But what's it got to do with EVs.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig That's the point Mike, it will still (at 50 years old) outlive an EV, which we are being pushed into replacing every 3 years or so because of the poor residual values.. I will only buy an EV when electric planes can carry 300 people from Heathrow to New York!.. (Phil)
If a new IC engine is needed in an older car you have options. 1) rebuild it for a relatively low cost. 2) second hand engine for a small cost. 3) New engine for a reasonable cost. NONE of these options are available for a failed EV battery as they cannot be repaired and the cost is always going to be high. Also would anyone with any sense buy a used EV battery ? It is incredible how so called car 'experts' are giving such idiotic advise on EV's.
Hi Jerry.
A chap in the UK had his electric scooter battery stolen.
He bought a second hand battery online, put it on charge under the stairs of his property.
The damn thing exploded, burned the property down, killed his partner, two children plus two dogs and left his in a coma and still recovering a year after the tragedy.
The article from the Metro newspaper in the UK dated June 13th 2024.
Buying a used EV battery can have terrible consequences as per the above.
Totally agree, Jerry Walker and Johnnie Boy (who replied under). On a different note, I just noticed that you two should get together over a good Johnnie Walker Scotch. To add to the laugh, My name is John Haig, another good scotch.
@@HaigEngineering
John.
I agree with you.
However, there’s only one thing better than a good scotch-two of them.
Cheers. 👍
I know someone whose son has a Tesla which shows the condition of each cell in the battery, and she seriously believes that means that if just one cell dies the garage will be able to replace it rather than having to replace the whole battery. I've sent her YT videos about main dealers saying the batteries cannot have individual cells replaced, and once a cell goes you have to replace the whole battery, but she thinks she knows more than the main dealers. I am waiting for one cell to go in her son's battery, and him having to buy an entire new battery, to see if that will change her mind, but I suspect she will say the garage is trying to con her son, rather than admit she was wrong.
@@johnnieboy5381 In my building an E bike caught fire in the bike storage which is located in our underground parking. It did almost $150,000 in damage to the building and the cars parked next to bike storage. Now our building doesn't allow E bikes/Evs anywhere in or around it.
I’ll drive my Subaru till i can’t anymore then I’ll just walk everywhere I’ll never buy a ev
I refuse to give up and stop driving my 1963 Dodge, and 1938 International pickup.
My car is from 2007 still going strong and will for many more years I will never buy an ev
In a sane world EVs would be banned because they are a scam.
My petrol car is 19 years old and is still running very well , passing mot,s with minimal work .
a typical BEVs battery loses a small amount of capacity each time it is charged and it’s typically recommended you never charge above 80% or discharge below 20% - imagine an equivalent ICE vehicle fuel tank losing a small amount of capacity each time you add fuel until eventually it won’t hold any fuel at all.
I totally agree ragtowne. But what you just said reminds me of my younger day when I used to race around our farm in an old 4wd. It hit bottom so many times and the fuel tank was beaten in so much that it would only take half of it's original capacity. haha.
Spot on Simon. I'm 74 years old and my 911 is 24 years old and all things being equal I will keep driving her until I hang up my non-existant driving gloves. Perish the thought that I do have to buy an EV namely a mobility scooter.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for you keeping your iPhone 12 'until or unless it breaks'. I had the same mentality with the iPhone 5 which worked perfectly well until Apple decided it was obsolete and would receive no more updates. Around 3 months later, surprise surprise, Apple released one 'final' update for the iPhone 5 which pretty much bricked my phone. Battery life went down to around 5 hrs, signal kept dropping out, trouble with connectivity, all pushed me into requiring a new phone. Did I choose another Apple product (which I presume was their intent)? Hell no! I've never touched another Apple product since.
It's called 'Forced Obsolescence' and all these EVs, with all their gimmickry & gadgetry, will succumb to the same fate when the overlords decide it's time you got a new one.
At least you correctly identified the cause of your old phone's demise, which I'm sure many others wouldn't have.
I don't let my phone from 2016 update. Works as well as it ever has, but it's been through 3 batteries.
It's true. That is how fleet and rental car companies operate. They offload cars after a couple of years. ICE cars also.
Couple of years. I deal with large rental car companies here in Australia. Most standard cars are 12
Months. Then sell and get new stock in. Prestige cars because of this initial cost usually a little longer (24 months).
2002 Toyota 3 Diesel Hilux 353952 kms ❤ Runs Beautifully NZ
It's hard to go past a Toyota in the long run.
No one is coming for it. What has an old banger got to do with EVs. I don't get it.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig its a thousand times better 😊
@@woofwoof9647 for you. Not us.
@@HaigEngineeringi grew up in a 45 series. I don't miss it.
The best thing about EV's is that they identify idiots.
Wait until they start taxing EV owners for battery disposal, wear and tear on roadways, and they are already applying a tax to make up for not getting gas tax revenue from these EVangelists.
Just sold my 24 year old 2.5 diesel Kia and bought a 2008 freelander 2.2 diesel turbo, you won't be buying ANY 2nd hand EVs that old that still work.
Did you really go from the frying pan into the fire. It beggars belief.
@@MikeJones-mz5ig how did you come to that brainless conclusion?? or did I just answer it myself?
What is a battery warranty worth, when the manufacturer checks it’s history and contests it’s invalidated because you had charged it beyond the stipulated 90% and let it run down below the 20% limit… 😢
Or fast charged more than 6 times in a row... Yes, that is in Hyundai's sales contract.
@@mikepickford1 The tether keeps getting shorter and shorter.
2 Year turnover? That's about the same period I replace underwear.
And THEY are fully recyclable!
Jeez! I'm surprised your undies don't ESCAPE before then! I do hope you meant get new ones every 2 years, not wash them every 2 years!
I purchased my 2006 Mercedes Cls 320cdi eight years ago with 58000 miles on the clock now 128000 . I regularly get between 28 to 55 mpg. The OM642 engine is good for 300000+ and it's still using the same fuel tank 🤣. This car has been brilliant. I'm not looking at changing it anytime soon.
I have an 8 year old ICE car which is running fine in fact all the nigly problems that I have had are electric related not mechanical !
8 years is nothing for a decent modern car like a Toyota.
How can a car expert say a battery will last ten years with no degradation. Most of the current EVs on the market haven’t been around that long.
Not to mention the insurance bill. After a couple of years you'll be paying more than the car is worth
What's going to be really fun, is when EV owners are unable to sell, or trade in, their old EVs, because nobody wants them. What's going to be even more fun, is when they are forced to pay an exorbitant fee to dispose of them, because of all of the hazardous materials they contain.
Does any EV maker guarantee to sell spare parts for 20 years? If not, they are not good for the planet.
In grabbler's mind, selling bad or poisonous apples isn't wrong, only the wrong people will buy them.
"The life of the vehicle" (an EV) is four years. Any other quoted number is a lie. Owning an EV after that and you're rolling the dice for battery life.
Yes Mark I agree, what you just said is yet another form of range anxiety.
Million mile Teslas
Absolutely right about older cars - much better than the garbage they build today. My 25-year-old truck will outlast anything you can buy today.
Well said. Again, I hope more people just WAKE UP! A car is the second most expensive purchase a typical person makes after their home. After 5 years of payments, I finally paid off my 2019 Toyota. It is not an EV, not a hybrid and it is not even a turbo. It is a naturally aspirated ICE engine. The car looks and drives just like new, and I own it out right. I just requested the title for the car. Even while I was paying it off, Toyota was willing to give me good money for it. Because my car is paid off it is like I have an automatic bonus from my job because I can now pocket the money I set aside for my car payments. That would NEVER happen with an EV. If the ownership of an EV is 2 years and EVs are so expensive, a person will never get ahead owning one. In that cause, leasing one makes more sense but again, you will never own it. I like having things I can pass on to my kids. EVs are fine if you want to "own nothing and be happy". I know that is NOT how I want to live my life.
Battery materials needed for 1 BEV can build 16 Plug-in-Hybrids, and 90 regular Hybrids, according to Toyota's estimation. Not to mention all the copper required to build countless charging stations, construct new power plants, and upgrade the entire electricity grid.
Energy mix and crucial infrastructure has to be gradually upgraded over decades, not in years. I suspect we have such a disconnect in policy and reality because many countries have a shortage in political leaders and government officials who have proper scientific training. They have become more ideological than practical. It's almost like the dogmatic Communist idealists in the early 20th century. It's like an EV cult that mistakenly assumes that Battery-electric vehicles are going to magically make the world better.
There was a video on this website by a chap who bought a cheap EV at about 8 years old. It still worked, but it needed a recharge every 45 miles. A new battery was about £8,000, but he could get a re-conditioned one for as little as £5,000.
Or he could spend £5,000 on a very nice, 10 year old Mercedes with 100,000 miles on the clock, which would easily do the same again with regular maintenence.
I live in the northern part of the United States famous for cars rusting out. A large number of cars in this part of the country are simply disposed of because they rust out. Aluminum is not immune from this it corrodes and these cars eventually have to be scrapped as well.
However with all that being said one vehicle I had over 200,000 mi on and the other vehicle almost 400,000. They were both scrapped not because there was a mechanical problem but the frame of the vehicle was not passable by inspection. These vehicles were well over 15 years old. People fail to understand that people who are often trading in a used vehicle with a long life in 2 years provide a lot of benefit to those people who want to keep a vehicle but also want to save money. Now they are making this much more difficult for people who perhaps want to save some money by buy a vehicle they're going to drive for a long time. This has massive economic ramifications that haven't even been fought through on the nature of how cars are bought and sold new and used.
Two years, no.
I’ve had my Mazda for almost Ten years, 378K miles, done every oil change myself.
When my engine is running, I am confident this car will get me where I need to go every time.
I’ll bet you EV owners PRAY every single time you’re in that car.
I have a 43 year old petrol car that's still going strong on it's original engine. Just about to refresh the cooling system; New old stock water pump, new timing belt, and re-core the radiator. Very few brand new resources needed, and that's the beauty of an old car like this. It's much better for the environment than making new EV every 2 years. I will happily drive it for the rest of my life.
I drive a 1992 'real' mini, and my camper van is a VW T4 from 1996 both perform well ad thankfully no technology. I can tell when it's dark or when it's raining. I don't need an onboard computer to turn the wipers or lights on.
In an ICE vehicle you can replace your bearings, your rings, gaskets, seals and extend the life of your care drastically if the work is done properly. This also doesnt cost 80-90% of the cost of the original price of the car.
If a plastic coolant nipple breaks off (there is a fix to it) the battery has to be replaced because not only is your battery pack damage through contact with something, the manufacture has no way to fix it without a complete replacement that they arent going to pay for. It can actually be fixed with like a 4 dollar plumbing part saving thousands of dollars but to the manufacture that isnt an option.
I bought a 2004 Buick Lesabre with 25k miles for $8k 9yrs ago. Including purchase cost, insurance, fuel, a set of tires, wipers, oil changes, some maintenance, etc. I've spent a grand total of roughly $18k on the car in those 9yrs, costing about $2k per year of ownership. But over time that cost per year goes down as the purchase cost gets further divided up. And I could probably sell the car today for over $10k, bringing the final cost of ownership down to less than $1k/yr including gasoline/insurance. I drive an average of 12k mi per year.
depreciation doesn't apply to old-enough used ICE cars.
A general rule of thumb my Father taught me decades ago was that for every $1k you spend on a car (not counting fuel, oil changes, insurance...) in purchase cost and repairs, it should last you 1 year of ownership. And yet I'm getting below that figure even factoring in things like gas. If I own this car for about 1-3 more years, I will have exceeded my Father's advice (and this will be my 3rd vehicle in a row in which I've exceeded his advice). Free Ford Ranger I drove for 6yrs (got it free after having been totaled twice by someone else), $2k Ford Taurus I drove for 8yrs, an $8k Buick Lesabre I've driven for 9+years, and a $7k 1992 rust free F150 I've just started driving. The most I ever spent on any one of these cars in repairs totaled to about $2k for everything (that was the Taurus, $600 for the Ranger, $1000 for the Buick so far).
A $60k EV car would require me to own it for over 60years to be financially viable, I'll be dead before then.
I have a 33 yo, a 20 and a 19yo cars. Way more than a million kms on them
Hagan is 100% correct, the batteries do last the life of the vehicle... When the battery fails, that's the end of the vehicle's life.
EVs are NOT 0 emmissions!
My 1962 thunderbird still has its original running gear and drives perfectly.
Just for a point of simple sums. If you had 2,000,000 EVs on charge at home at 7KW. in the UK. This would equate to 20% of grid capacity. Spare grid capacity in Winter is as low as 4%. But we have 35,000,000 million cars!!!!!!! plus industry new builds and AI which consumes much power.
EVs won't need to all be charged at the same time, just like ICE cars don't need to fill up at the same time. This type of argument is a furphy.
@@simoncrooke1644 Do the maths. According to the RAC there are 33.58 million cars in the UK. If they were all electric, 2 million of them charging overnight is 6% of the total stock. If each Ev only needs charging say, once a week, pretty unlikely in my opinion, that would mean 4.78 million (14%) cars needing to be charged every day. In addition it takes far longer to charge an Ev at home so many of them will be plugged into the grid at the same time and for a long time.
@@simoncrooke1644 That cheap midnight power? All COAL
Take that further. Average mileage in the UK is only 7,400, so just 20 miles a day. Even the small EVs like I have now, it's only once every week to two weeks. I do mine on 3kv as I'm in no rush overnight, and don't want to fully charge anyway.
Once the government sort out getting all the renewables connected, it's not going to be impossible. He'll, we soon got gas and oil pipelines installed when we wanted to.
In fact, gas is the bigger problem, north sea is dwindling, all new boilers can be converted to hydrogen. Gives a clue where things are going.
@@markdoherty9205 Don't you mean AVERAGE COMMUTE? Average mileage is a different story. People do much more with their cars than commute to and from work or school.
My daily driver is 26 years old now. And with less than 60k on the clock I expect it should do another 10 at least.
My car is 22 years old Australian made and 480,000kms - No African slaves used to make her
The entire world is jumping off the roof of a 50 storey building all at the same time !!!
the battery isnt the engine/motor~ its essentially only the fuel tank. the fuel tank to hold an energy thats way too costly and begins the process of degrading the container (battery) as soon as its put in it! brilliant? Nope
Any good brand name ICE car can easily last 20+years with routine maintenance.
My 2002. Škoda with LPG is on 365000 km, not a single engine failure so far.
I was at a restaurant this morning, someone had their Ford EV truck plugged in right beside the window I was sitting by, I couldn’t leave fast enough.
My 1929 Ford model A still runs. Two weeks ago I drove it 250 miles in one day. Also our 1975 Ford F250 helps us with pickup tasks. Drove it 1500 miles last year pulling a 20ft trailer to pick up a classic car. LOL The truck IS a classic car.
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I have replaced one worn out Slant Six in 50 years of car ownership. I'm still driving that car to this day.
Once a large enough percentage of "early adapters"......relatively wealthy novelty seekers have experienced the enormous repair costs, the limited ability to have these cars serviced, traffic jams caused by people without money, pushing their degrading batteries to the absolute limit, very high insurance premiums, cars bricking themselves for either no or nonsensical reasons...and unfortunately stories of entire families being incinerated while just going about their daily lives, the tide will turn hard AGAINST these things, big time.
I'm not speculating here, these are all hard truths associated with the current technology being used in these cars.
The people lying about the issues these cars have, and the ones keeping their heads in the sand, are the worst enemy the EV movement could possibly have. It's almost like a death cult is calling the shots for them.
Recognizing limitations and slow, steady evolution is the way forward...not the clusterfuck currently playing out.
Remove all the tax breaks, subsidy on cars, subsidy on charging, grants, company tax advantages, 0% finance, leave it to the market to decide and no one would ever buy one of these hideous turds!