I used to absolutely hate Judith Butler. Now I don't know why. She is such a cool person. She just gives off this humble, contemplative, intelligent, and warm personality.
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She's always been that person. Shes also as always been mistaken about social constructions
Her writing is pretentious and inaccessible word salad designed to intimidate the reader into thinking they're just not smart enough to get it. She's a dumb person's idea of a smart person.
Dru Smith Listening to Judith speak, they seem really intelligent, but for some reason they get trapped in the pitfalls of academic pretentiousness when writing. It’s easier to watch or listen to one of Judith’s lectures than it is to read their work.
This makes much more sense than most of the things around me. This makes you smile and nod warmly. It's a rare sort of feelings. Thanks to all the people who made this video available here.
This short film reminds us of the importance of the "Sociological Imagination" in terms of using our imaginative thinking to understand the relationship between the individual (the dis-abled person) and exclusionary practices in today's society. Public issues that lie beyond one's personal control; rooted in the design of public spaces and general ignorance of dis-ability and the lack of accessibility. However, the social imagination can also help raise awareness and encourage political action to improve inclusion across the board, particularly for people with dis-abilities. Thanks Sunaura and Judith for a very reflective/examined life walk concerning disability, gender, and the Other!
This was my favorite part of the whole film. I watched this clip with my 8 yr-old daughter so she could understand something about "ableism" and why disabled, or differently-abled people deserve respect, rights and opportunities the same way as anyone else. And yes "help", just as we all need help. Thanks for this eye and heart-opening talk!
It is so nice and endearing and warm to see these two women walking together, talking about details of how human beings interact with each other and how a disabled person sees herself in relation with other human beings, really nice.
This video reminds us, this is not an "abstract" idea. We're talking about life here. Real people, real life, and that response to others which ultimatly defines who we are.
This is at the root of this countries political debate, where one side imagines themselves "independant" and "self sufficient", and finds fault with the very notion of society as an expression of our collective experience. "Well being" is privatized and the challenges faced by others are their problem. It boils down to whether we see our social system as a means to express our hostility towards eachother, or as a consruct by which we affirm and honor eachothers lives.
I found the "human interdependency" question quite provoking. Everyone does need help, and it's quite alienating to think about life without it. Although, the extent to which we rely on one another is quite shallow, and to see more of it exercised would be a nice change. I worked at a coffee shop before and served an impaired woman by getting the change out of her purse for her, refilling her water and holding it to her mouth, and wiping her mouth after she had eaten the cake she purchased.
I saw this movie when it was released and met the maker. Sunaura not only outshines Judith, but this scene makes Cornell and Zizek into the set up. I think Astra does this deliberately because she loves her sister. I’ll see the new film ASAP.
hi, if i wanted to do the spanish subtitles...what do I have to do? I'm in Argentina, and many people desist of watching the whole video because the don't speaks english very well...
Introspective discussions are beyond some peoples understanding and boring to others who think that the epiphanies are clearly evident. The questions posed in this discussions need to be asked and discussed because not everyone is humane. There is hope as the Millennial's display the most empathy of any generation yet and don't tolerate injustice.
maybe, if you take the meaning of her words and extrapolate them beyond the issue of disability. I think in this case she was very specifically referring to disability. Secondly, she only said that "your disability brings up the issues of individualism within society" not that she took a particular stance on the issue. I love this stuff. Although I don't particularly appreciate how complicated the language can become.
I haven't read Judith Butler yet. I just discovered her, and I understand her books are challenging. I think that since natural selection is incontrovertible, any "religious" views that certain biological attributes and specific behaviors (analyzed outside of their value to promote our lives) are necessarily more moral than others, are rubbish. The pope and the evangelicals have a little thinking to do.
Hi, TH-cam has discontinued community contribution since September 28, 2020 across all TH-cam Channels. But you can still send me the subtitles file you create, and I'll upload it.
i agree almost completely up until that last conclusion. individualism i think is crucial to that richness of difference that people like butler revindicate. the idea of everyone helping everyone as some sort of imperative above and beyond anything else is potentially destructive.
Do you know who else has limited housing options and career opportunities? Poor people, regardless of gender, race, level of impairment . Yet ,identity politics ignores the problem and focuses solely on the advancement of rights of small groups in an system which is fundamentally unjust.
This is the whole segment; it's one segment from Astra Taylor's film The Examined Life, which features other philosophers as well, each speaking for ~10 minutes.
I spent 30 years working with the "learning disabled population...er, consumers, er, individuals, er, costumers, er, patients..." and none of the label changes put 2 more cents into their help and care. But it sure was great for academics and politicians. --- This is 3 star virtue posing and manipulation. Essence of Creme de Bull.
this was interesting..reminded me of the book by ralph pettman 'going for a walk in the world': i have had interesting experiences as someone who is part Japanese and I look that way as well. When I asked for a glass of water at a fast food counter...the girl serving me wanted to charge me for it. When I asked what I was paying for...she claimed that it was the ice. I felt like dousing her with the contents of the cup I had in my hand. But, I didn't. I also found I didn't have 50cents..
You are talking to someone with philosophy, religion, mythology and cults, logic, Latin, Old greek and Hebrew university studies and this person happens to think your statement are pure idiocy. Mind you, not ignorance - because the ignorant doesn't know but has access to knowledge, whereas the idiot knows but has no access to knowledge. If you still don't get this, you also fall in the latter category.
To force your opinion on another is what feminism is all about. It's about empowering cognitive abilities - sustained by the feminine sex - in the detriment of moral abilities - sustained by the masculine sex. When the shift for feminity happens - we speak of sensible obligation, of shushing "masculine", rough opinion in the detriment of "saving face". We are talking about even concealing truth in the name of "not offending". Which is pretty much what you did to that lad with that response.
He's right you know-however agressive his statement that does not make his opinion any less close to his mindset than it already is. You are responding the same way Butler would, really. You have not seen both sides, but have agreed to this woman's idea of desensitizing the notion of morality and replacing it with social duty. As if virtues are not of an intrinsic quality and are part of one's free will but of one's social make-up..
I used to absolutely hate Judith Butler. Now I don't know why. She is such a cool person. She just gives off this humble, contemplative, intelligent, and warm personality.
She's always been that person. Shes also as always been mistaken about social constructions
So why did u hate her?
T Clark can you elaborate on that?
Her writing is pretentious and inaccessible word salad designed to intimidate the reader into thinking they're just not smart enough to get it. She's a dumb person's idea of a smart person.
Dru Smith Listening to Judith speak, they seem really intelligent, but for some reason they get trapped in the pitfalls of academic pretentiousness when writing. It’s easier to watch or listen to one of Judith’s lectures than it is to read their work.
This makes much more sense than most of the things around me. This makes you smile and nod warmly. It's a rare sort of feelings. Thanks to all the people who made this video available here.
taking a walk with judith butler is now on my bucket list
What an articulate woman Sunaura is. She has clear, orderly, thoughtful, educational thinking behind her communication.
This short film reminds us of the importance of the "Sociological Imagination" in terms of using our imaginative thinking to understand the relationship between the individual (the dis-abled person) and exclusionary practices in today's society. Public issues that lie beyond one's personal control; rooted in the design of public spaces and general ignorance of dis-ability and the lack of accessibility. However, the social imagination can also help raise awareness and encourage political action to improve inclusion across the board, particularly for people with dis-abilities. Thanks Sunaura and Judith for a very reflective/examined life walk concerning disability, gender, and the Other!
This was my favorite part of the whole film. I watched this clip with my 8 yr-old daughter so she could understand something about "ableism" and why disabled, or differently-abled people deserve respect, rights and opportunities the same way as anyone else. And yes "help", just as we all need help. Thanks for this eye and heart-opening talk!
FYI the Deleuze essay: Expressionism in Philosophy: Spinoza (p. 217-234)
+Connie Huang Thank you! I have been looking for this essay for months!
I would totally watch 'Shopping with Judith Butler'. I love her jacket so much.
Great video, really eye opening.
learning to ask for help has a big thing for me, it's been difficult but rewarding and enabling, so very glad to hear of it talked about.
Sunaura should work as a voice over O.O Her voice is really pleasing :D
It is so nice and endearing and warm to see these two women walking together, talking about details of how human beings interact with each other and how a disabled person sees herself in relation with other human beings, really nice.
Very interesting and modern discussion about our societies. We need to deal with this important questions.
Such a wonderful video that taught me something more about life! I wish that one day I can meet Judy in real life, she is the smartest person ever!
This was beautiful it really was. It's expression of interconnectivity and need for others is a very strong message
The thing about accessibility directly feeding into social acceptance is great, I should remember that
judith butler is absolutely AMAZING.
Brilliant.
Filming done so well too! Walking - wonderful metaphor.
And thanks for the quality captioning (my language being deafened).
Help is something we all need... Sunara is such a beautiful soul..
no one should ever be bullied! very cool video !
This is my favorite interview of the whole film - it's more personal and warm.
This video reminds us, this is not an "abstract" idea. We're talking about life here. Real people, real life, and that response to others which ultimatly defines who we are.
What a beautiful walk, amazing personalities, defenitly the kind of person I want to become !
Still love this video... it is so perfect! I used it in teaching undergrads.
Thank you, really thought provoking
Does Judith look a bit like Tony Hawk
Love the examined life... been watching it over and over again. Love this one and the section with Dr West most tho
This is at the root of this countries political debate, where one side imagines themselves "independant" and "self sufficient", and finds fault with the very notion of society as an expression of our collective experience. "Well being" is privatized and the challenges faced by others are their problem. It boils down to whether we see our social system as a means to express our hostility towards eachother, or as a consruct by which we affirm and honor eachothers lives.
I think this goes at the very heart of the debate between welfare and socialist ideals and capitalist individual ideals, very interesting
I found the "human interdependency" question quite provoking. Everyone does need help, and it's quite alienating to think about life without it. Although, the extent to which we rely on one another is quite shallow, and to see more of it exercised would be a nice change. I worked at a coffee shop before and served an impaired woman by getting the change out of her purse for her, refilling her water and holding it to her mouth, and wiping her mouth after she had eaten the cake she purchased.
Such a beautiful person, to think that someone may have thought she was too much of a burden on a family/society to bring into the world.
Butler has provided many a-hah moments for me. That's a beautiful thing to give someone
Aye yo who here doing their discussion board right now?
😂😂
somehow...over the years...i've fallen in love with Judith Butler.
wtf?
Judith Butler looks like Michael Douglas
I thaught exactly the same.
"Yeah I think this would probably fall off my shoulders"
*Judith ignores her*
"Yeah I guess we could try it on"
lol
bravetherainbow haha i noticed that too
I saw this movie when it was released and met the maker. Sunaura not only outshines Judith, but this scene makes Cornell and Zizek into the set up. I think Astra does this deliberately because she loves her sister. I’ll see the new film ASAP.
hi, if i wanted to do the spanish subtitles...what do I have to do? I'm in Argentina, and many people desist of watching the whole video because the don't speaks english very well...
Uma esperiencia vivida com dificuldades e limitações
Introspective discussions are beyond some peoples understanding and boring to others who think that the epiphanies are clearly evident. The questions posed in this discussions need to be asked and discussed because not everyone is humane. There is hope as the Millennial's display the most empathy of any generation yet and don't tolerate injustice.
Amazing video.
This is absolutely wonderful!
Absolutely love this! AND you, Sunny!! And you, now, too, Judith Butler; would love to chat!!! ~ the Weasel, Grand Rapids ADAPT
Man this is just beatiful
shit, now i want to take a walk with judith butler.
Think of all the things Judith has done for the world... I think se is a beautiful wonderful person. Judith I love you, I thank you!
Wow, Sunaura is totally out doing Judith in relevance here.
Judith Butler reminds me of Richard from Curb your Enthusiasm.
Good documentary. And I really liked this part :)
are you blind to the fact that there are many different ideas of what constitutes 'hot'
I'm watching this ten minutes before class ☺
maybe, if you take the meaning of her words and extrapolate them beyond the issue of disability. I think in this case she was very specifically referring to disability. Secondly, she only said that "your disability brings up the issues of individualism within society" not that she took a particular stance on the issue.
I love this stuff. Although I don't particularly appreciate how complicated the language can become.
@timetochilli How exactly? This video focuses mainly on how people with disabilities are viewed in our culture.
I haven't read Judith Butler yet. I just discovered her, and I understand her books are challenging.
I think that since natural selection is incontrovertible, any "religious" views that certain biological attributes and specific behaviors (analyzed outside of their value to promote our lives) are necessarily more moral than others, are rubbish.
The pope and the evangelicals have a little thinking to do.
hi, would you please enable the option so that i can make spanish subtitles?
Hi, TH-cam has discontinued community contribution since September 28, 2020 across all TH-cam Channels. But you can still send me the subtitles file you create, and I'll upload it.
i use my feet as hands way more when im at home. also going up stairs on all fours is infinitely better than balancing on two limbs
wow that was amazing
a cigar is never just a cigar...
Can someone tell me what is going on here? Im lost
LOL "it's by weight" ..."can we guess"?
i agree almost completely up until that last conclusion. individualism i think is crucial to that richness of difference that people like butler revindicate. the idea of everyone helping everyone as some sort of imperative above and beyond anything else is potentially destructive.
✊🏼 antispeciesim ✊🏼 antiableism ✊🏼 antisexiesm ✊🏼 antiracism ✊🏼antiageism ✊🏼
Michael Douglas
Where can I find the essay "What can a body do"?
Do you know who else has limited housing options and career opportunities? Poor people, regardless of gender, race, level of impairment . Yet ,identity politics ignores the problem and focuses solely on the advancement of rights of small groups in an system which is fundamentally unjust.
You haven't read any Judith Butler?
I wonder if the person att 10:10 is yawning or being star struck by JB
anyone know where the full clip of this is or if there even is an extension to this lol
This is the whole segment; it's one segment from Astra Taylor's film The Examined Life, which features other philosophers as well, each speaking for ~10 minutes.
thanks :)
Judith Butler looks kinda like Andy Warhol here. That's pretty awesome
i agree with you sullen boy!
I fundamentally disagree with Butler on a lot, but I'd like to see her in more debates with right leaning thinkers.
Nice sweater
can anyone find a link to the deleuze essay she's discussing?
@Mael3rd this sounds like it belongs on a Feminist Ryan Gosling meme
Knowledge..
wonderful humans,id like to walk with them.
have you listened to any of Butler's ideas on gender???
oh my god! justin bieber.......
captions?
13:08 FTW
Yes, I did. So what?
I agree too.
So, gender and accesibility. Great, Butler!
why in the world would you sell clothing by weight
I spent 30 years working with the "learning disabled population...er, consumers, er, individuals, er, costumers, er, patients..." and none of the label changes put 2 more cents into their help and care. But it sure was great for academics and politicians. --- This is 3 star virtue posing and manipulation. Essence of Creme de Bull.
four dollars for that ? come on san fucksisco
@akma632 As Iggy Pop said: give me danger!
this was interesting..reminded me of the book by ralph pettman 'going for a walk in the world': i have had interesting experiences as someone who is part Japanese and I look that way as well. When I asked for a glass of water at a fast food counter...the girl serving me wanted to charge me for it. When I asked what I was paying for...she claimed that it was the ice. I felt like dousing her with the contents of the cup I had in my hand. But, I didn't. I also found I didn't have 50cents..
total disregard for biology? 12:15-20? ;)
Judith seems like such a nerd, lol
i actually felt Butler seemed a bit condescending here
You are talking to someone with philosophy, religion, mythology and cults, logic, Latin, Old greek and Hebrew university studies and this person happens to think your statement are pure idiocy. Mind you, not ignorance - because the ignorant doesn't know but has access to knowledge, whereas the idiot knows but has no access to knowledge. If you still don't get this, you also fall in the latter category.
yeah, maybe as a male...
I perfectly well understand, I just disagree with you. You hold very antiquated, reactionary views
Who ist this old Man in the black Jacket??
Judith Butler reminds me about all the thinks that now I hate...
Explain. State your opinion. What exactly, and why hate?
To force your opinion on another is what feminism is all about. It's about empowering cognitive abilities - sustained by the feminine sex - in the detriment of moral abilities - sustained by the masculine sex. When the shift for feminity happens - we speak of sensible obligation, of shushing "masculine", rough opinion in the detriment of "saving face". We are talking about even concealing truth in the name of "not offending". Which is pretty much what you did to that lad with that response.
He's right you know-however agressive his statement that does not make his opinion any less close to his mindset than it already is. You are responding the same way Butler would, really. You have not seen both sides, but have agreed to this woman's idea of desensitizing the notion of morality and replacing it with social duty. As if virtues are not of an intrinsic quality and are part of one's free will but of one's social make-up..
lol are you blind
I think money, or more precisely, being poor, got far most to do with disabilities than the sex you were born with. Seriously.
video put me right to sleep