Victory Rear Wheel Removal
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- Many people were asking me to make a video showing how I remove the rear wheel from my 2014 Victory Cross Country Tour.
It took a while but here it finally is. I hope you enjoy it.
Paul Pomerleau
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Paul, I can't even BEGIN to tell you how much I appreciate your videos! This one, like so many of your others have saved me tons of cost and frustration! Thanks for doing these!
My pleasure Cayoot :) Glad you enjoy them.
Paul, great video man. Thanks for supporting the Victory family.
6 years later and still Gold Jerry!!! New to Victory, own 2 now '14 XC and a '12 Highball you can see on my channel, this video is Invaluable to me!!!!
Great Video Paul- really clear instruction, great camera work, audio was spot on. Really well done, keep up the good work!
Excellent video, thank you so much. I have a Victory Vision and it looked intimidating: not no more....
Thank you for sharing your wisdom thru your videos.... It is greatly appreciated.
This was very helpful. Thank you for including torque specs. I ended up removing the caliper because it was a real fight trying to get the tire back in and lined up. After I got the axle through lining everything up, I backed the axle back out just enough to slide the caliper bracket forward enough to get the caliper back on. Then slid the axle back through and torqued to spec. Hope that helps if anyone else is fighting that caliper.
Well done Sir, very helpful. Thank You!
Hey Paul how u make tire stands
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/xRtg2t3HvdU/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate your videos addressing working on your XCT.
Thanks Paul for all your efforts!
I've saved alot of time and money watching your videos.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
When you put the rear wheel back under the bike it wasn't on the home made wheel stand but when the camera cut to you putting in the spacer on the belt side the wheel stand was under the tire...how did you do that??
The thumbs down fella has to be VisionJohnny ... :-)
Hello man! Great video, thanks!. I see on your video you have on your rear whel one regular tire (look like one car wheel). My cuestions: what i saw it's that ok?, what it's the number of this tire (number/ relation rin it's a 16" of course)?, which it's the driving sensación with this wheel? (sorry for my english, please answer my cuestions, thanks in advance)
The car tire on the back of my 2014 Victory Cross Country Tour is a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 run flat tire. I love it, it handles very well for my riding style. Some people don't like them but I do. Thank you for watching.
As always, as a newish XC owner, whenever I need to play with my bike I know I can find the best "how to" video in your channel, you have no idea how great your contribution is Paul. A year ago I wouldn't even dare to try much of the stuff I have done with the guide of your videos, tips and advise, I even trust your videos more than my local victory mechanic..lol..Happy holidays from Melbourne, Florida!
Thank you very much for the kind words. I appreciate it. Ride safe and have fun.
Hello Paul and thanks for the video. I used it when I changed my first tire. Thinking I am going to try dark side on next tire. How close to the stock tire size is the Bridgestone you used? Slightly wider ? Overall rolling circumference same ? Wondering if speedo will be out at all. Thanks
I have never noticed any difference on the speedometer. This is the tire size that everyone on a XC uses, so it must be about the same circumference as the motorcycle tire.
Wait wtf pple put car tires on bikes?? Is this a thing?
I watched quite a few videos! You have a great one very knowledgeable. My axle spacers had 2 on the dryad side instead of one larger. I went nuts for a while until I started to reassemble. Thank you
As always clear and consise video, thanks
Well done and informative, thanks for posting!
Great video, but why is there a Car tyre on your rear wheel? Doesn't that completely kill the handling of the bike?
Good question. It is called "Darksiding", and for me, I actually like the car tire over any motorcycle tire. I find it handles better for my riding style, but it is not for everyone. Lots of videos on Darksiding out there. It is a very interesting and controversial subject.
Paul, you have a gift. Use it more.
You're awesome.
Thank you so much
Paul this is a great video. You explained everything very well. I like that you explained why you were using that style of jack. Now I need to get one.
That sure looks like it makes that tire change very easy I'm curious what size of car tire is that on that bike?
This is a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 run flat tire.
Ive only got 1 question here how does the handling and ride change using what loolks like a car tire on the rear of the bike ive heard of people doing it but never got to ask how it changes the feel
The first thing I noticed is how comfortable the ride became with the car tire on it. Also I was able to ride on gravel roads a lot easier. As for handling, I never noticed any difference from a motorcycle tire. Maybe it was just me. For the type of riding I do, it works for me.
SUBSCRIBED! Great job explaining this job. looking forward to your other videos. I really like the tips and your setup to keep the motorcycle stable.
Awesum video my friend, you have no idea how helpful yur videos r, keep it up. Thanks brotha
Would you please tell me the specs of the car tire you are using? I'm going Darkside with my next tire purchase. I drive a 2015 Victory CCT. Thank you!
I am using a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 which is a run-flat tire, and inflated to 30 PSI. Everyone uses a different pressure, this is what works for me.
@@PaulPomerleau thank you. Do you often run with a passenger and cargo? My wife and I even up to 400 lb combined not counting cargo. Would this tire at 30 PSI be sufficient? Thanks again for the specific tire model and specs. Will definitely order one when it's time.
Well, because you have done such a fantastic job of explaining how, I am going to try and change my own back tire. I am riding dark side now. I hope it will not be too hard to lever the car tire off the rim. I’ll stop back in and let you know how it goes for me. I am not a mechanic, but I don’t have a Victory dealer/shop to help anymore. Thank you for your helpful videos! We Vic riders are lucky to have you!
Paul, I know that this is 2 years old, but can you post how you made the wheel blocks. I ride a Harley but it would be beneficial, by the way great vid... Never mind I see it in up next,
You make it look easier than it is.....getting the brake caliper plus pads on the rotor and wheel back on is a pain......just sayin. Thanks for the video.
Your the man Paul. One of the so called "experts" in the field would have you believe that the exhaust would have to be removed( note they have comments disabled) I too have found on my Kingpin by disconnecting the suspension links and jacking the rear wheel up the axle can be pulled out above the exhaust. Your videos and instructions are always 1st class.
Thanks great video
Great video Paul....would like to see a clos up of where you put the tie down loops around the forks though. ;)
Do you mount your own car tire? Do you have a video for that? Going to put a Yokohama Avid Envigor zps on my vision soon. Have a shop that will mount but was wanting to try myself if not too hard.
Yes I mount my own tires. I have a video on how I changed my front tire, it is about the same.
You can see it here: th-cam.com/video/ewSycRk_eHw/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Hey Paul, Wayne here. You probably know more than most on Victory bikes. My 2009 Vic Vision needs a rear shock replaced. It is an air adjustable shock. A little pricey. It no longer holds air pressure and fluid leaked out. Do I have to replace it with another air shock or will any Victory shock work? The Vic site was limited. I know you are very busy with projects, but if you get a chance I would really appreciate your help. It's to the point that safety is now an issue. Thanks Paul.
Hi Wayne, any shock that will fit will work. The air shock is just more comfortable, convenient and easier to adjust for 2-up or something. If you put in a manual one then you will most likely have to leave it at one setting as it would be difficult to access.
Holy smokes!!! You make this look so easy! I do appreciate you and your vast knowledge!!
Great info and video!
I only clicked on this video because that looks like a car tire on the back lol
It is.
I dont know if is it just me
but it looks like you have a car tire mounted on the rear of your bike?
Yes I do. It is a Bridgestone Driveguard run flat tire. Look up "Darkside".
@@PaulPomerleau After watching that Darside video from FortNine. I will pass on installing that on my 2010 CC. I love the cornering & handle-ling ability of my bike..
Nice video. I don't have a Victory but I do have an Indian and I think a lot of information is transferable.
Wish I watched this prior to tackling mine!🙁
Great video but one thing should be noted on the jack stand you have to prop up the side of the bike so It is level
Hello Paul: Want to thank you for passing on your knowledge. Will be removing my rear tire with my newly acquired knowledge.
You have a very organized garage.
Take care.
Les
I like your style 😎
Great video..
..Victory ✌..
Been watching this for a few days and I can not get the brake back in place. Love this video, but I'm just not getting it on the way back in.
Yeah this is the hardest part. Another way you can try is to place the caliper onto the swingarm and tie it down with a tie strap BEFORE you roll the wheel under. Remove your saddlebags and straddle the back fender. Go in from both sides and grab the rim. Since the caliper is at the 7 o'clock position, you are going to have to lift the wheel and place the rotor into the caliper from above (make sure your brake pads are spread apart). If you still can't get it into the caliper you may have to remove the plastic belt guard on the right hand side to give you more room. At this point you may need more hands as while you are holding the wheel in place you must keep it there by either placing a piece of wood under the wheel or having someone lower the bike so the weight of the wheel is not resting on the caliper. Once this is done then it is simply a matter of lining up the axel. Don't forget to cut off the tie strap when done. Hope this helps.
@@PaulPomerleau Thank you so much for the reply. I will give this a try tonight. Your videos and this information are so spot on and helpful. Thank you
@@PaulPomerleau This really helped and was able to get it back together with a friends help. Thanks again for the videos.
Great how to video!
Thank you 2023
Looking for a new cruiser (new to me) glad to see that they Victory will take a car tire ....is that a 205 16?
It is a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 run flat tire.
Great video TY
Again! Amazing video! You make them informative, and easy to follow. Can’t wait for your brake bleeding video!
(Hint hint)
That looks like a car tire instead of a motorcycle tire.
You are right.
A very helpful and clear video. Here we are in lock down and I am learning how to remove the rear wheel as I have flat tyre. Thanks for doing the videos
Thank you for the details on the tools and sizes needed to complete this task.
Thx Paul for the vid!!! If you are ever in California let me know. We have some great places to ride & eat. One place is called Point Loma Seafood in San Diego. Best Scallop sandwich!
Andy ( LIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO EAT)
Thanks for the offer Andy. It sure would be nice to go there now as snow is on the way tonight, and I love seafood.
Ride safe and Eat well :)
I see you use a car tire?... how is it to ride a "flat" tire?
I like it. I ride the same as when I had a motorcycle tire on the back. I find it smoother, better grip and the added benefit of a run flat tire. Lots of people don't like it, but it works for me.
Hi Paul this is Rob or robsvision ,, taking the wheel off is easy.... putting it back on is a royal pain in the assssssss. Trying to get that brake calliper bracket back in place with so little room is a very loud multiple session of four letter words.... I have been changing bike tires for 50 years. But the Vic is the worst ever.... maybe I am just getting old and cagey... Great video Paul
You been out for a ride yet....
Thanks Rob. I agree each bike has it's own attitude that sometimes causes me to say bad things as well. Fortunately I can just edit those out of the video :)
I finally got out on April 23, the latest ever for me. Weird weather.
Ride safe and have fun my friend.
Where did you get your scissors jack from? I see a bunch of them on Amazon. I would like to order the same one or similar. Thank you.
I bought mine on sale at Princess Auto, it is the same type of store as Harbor Freight in the States.
Great Job, Thank You,
What tire is that? What are the benefits of a tire like that ?
It's a car tire. It is called Darksiding. For me, I like it more than having a motorcycle tire on the back.
Paul, thanks for the informative video. You just saved me tons of work & a fair bit of money!
Paul, Dean here... can you add a list of all the tools and sockets as a checklist of what one needs? Please and thanks. I am going to attempt the tire swap on the rear of my wife's Vegas... which should be the same as the CCT. Do you think it can be done without the boxes you built? Did you go with another car tire again?
Hi Dean, not a lot of tools needed. I used two 15mm wrenches to disconnect the suspension, then I used a 27mm socket on a breaker bar for the axle nut. I used a torque wrench to tighten the axle nut to 65 ft/lbs and suspension linkage to 60 ft/lbs.
You don't need the boxes to change a tire. I only used them to get the camera and lighting underneath. I'm still on my first car tire after 3 years. Maybe I will put another one on next year.
Hope it goes well for you. Chat later.
Great video Sir. Good job. Darkside baby!!
Hi Paul
Have you noticed how sloppy the gear shift lever is
I went to my local victory dealer for new bushings but my we’re not worn almost the same as original nylon
I have ordered some after market in brass might be better
What a poor design from Polaris
Sometimes I miss my BMW for the over engineering but it lasts
Have you had any ideas of improving the design
You make real good videos
With simple tips
You are very good and informative
Thanks
I have a 2012 Crossroads I do love the bike great motor
But,,,,,,
Gaspar G
Yeah a lot of people replace the nylon ones with a brass set. It's not perfect but does make it a lot better than OEM.
I have not done mine because it really doesn't bother me enough to change it.
Please let me know how your new brass ones work.
Thanks for watching and ride safe.
Hi, I see you are running car tire on your bike, I'm thinking about it, how it handle?and do you think it's safe? Also what size and brand tire you had on.? I have cross roads and I'm thinking about it,thanks
For the style of riding that I do I love a car tire. I noticed right away how much more comfortable the ride is. I find it better on gravel, sand, paint, rain, it has better stopping and acceleration because of the bigger footprint and it is a run flat tire to boot. For me, I will always have a car tire on the back. But that is just my opinion. A lot of people have told me right to my face how stupid I am, that I am a moron and an idiot for having one on my bike, so be ready for that. I am using a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16.
Paul Pomerleau I don’t mind being called all of that if it’s gonna last me much longer, we pull trailer and only getting about 4000 miles, not good, so car tire will be my next to install on the bike, thanks for the information
Hey Paul, can you do a video on the drive belt alignment? As we know getting the belt to ride centered in the pulley is next to impossible as the belt will shift to one side or the other once the bike is on the ground and driven. Figured that you may have some useful hints.
That is one of the top requested videos that I need to do. Now that the nice weather is here I am having too much fun riding. But I will do it soon.
Paul, I have a vision and I am considering a CT. I see you have a CT on your victory. What is your feed back on using a CT?
I absolutely love it. I would never go back to a motorcycle tire on the back. But everyone is different. I listened to everyone discuss the pros and cons for about a year before realizing the only way I would know is to try it myself. I was nervous, even a bit scared, but I loved it the moment I first hit the road. All the horror stories did not happen to me. You are going to have to try it yourself to see if you like it, and be ready to go back to a motorcycle tire if you don't. And there is nothing wrong with going back. At least you tried. Good luck.
LOVE that tip about using the tie wrap on the brake caliper bracket!!
I'm way late on this comment. Used your method on replacing my vision rear tire yesterday, worked out fine. I noticed your rear tire in this video looked like a regular car tire. If it is then please share size and where one might purchase the tire. Thanks again.
Hi Wayne, yes it is a car tire. It is a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 run flat. I live in Canada and I bought it online at 4tires.ca
Thanks for the quick reply. On the Goldwings I only got about 8-10 k miles on the rear tires. The 1800's were easy but the 1500's, a nightmare. Following your detailed instructions I found it fairly easy on the Vision. I left on the rear boxes which made it much easier. Thanks again Paul for your vids. You are my "go to guy" for help. After I smooth the tread out on my new tire I will be replacing it with the Bridgestone. I did not see any speed sensing device on the Vision rear wheel area so the size won't be a factor. Speed must be picked up from the front wheel. Have a great day.
Love the video!!! I'm an absolute fan of witchdoctors how-to video's, but this video makes it 100% easier to do the job!!! No more removing the exhaust pipes!! you saved me such headaches!!
Thanks for watching Shawn, glad I could help.
how much tire pressure do you run in both the rear car tire and front tire???
I run 33psi in the back tire and 38psi in the front. But that is a personal choice for comfort and handling.
@@PaulPomerleau ok ty your videos are top notch sir. I'm gettin' a touch of... wallowing? around corners at 32 in the rear and 34 in the front. ill try it and see.... ty again.
The 33psi in the back is for a car tire. If I was using a motorcycle tire in the back, I use 40psi. Again, it is a personal choice.
Superb!
Another great video Paul!! If your are looking for ideas for upcoming videos maybe one on bleeding the brakes and changing the brake fluid.
Hi Terry, yup brake bleeding is one of the videos that I have on my to-do list. Thanks for watching.
Curious about what kind of tire that is. Looks more like a car tire than a bike tire. Will it get better milage?
It is a car tire. I heard all the stories about "Darksiding" and decided to see for myself what it is all about. So I tried it. Well, 3 years later and over 37,000 kms I absolutely love it. Bigger footprint means better traction in gravel, sand and such. It's a run flat tire so no more worries about getting a flat. Lasts longer than a motorcycle tire, and handles about the same for my style of riding. But that is just my personal opinion. It's a very controversial issue and I have been called many bad names by others when they notice the tire so I try not to bring it up too much.
Is that a automotive rear tire?
Yes, it is known as going Darkside.
If you find any spare parts after assembly, you can sell them on e-bay, another benefit.
🤣
I was wondering about your car tire on the rear. Does it last longer and does it hurt your turning?
This is just my opinion and I'm only using a car tire for my own enjoyment. But for me the car tire lasts longer, rides much smoother, has better traction, can run with zero air pressure in emergencies, can be purchased at any automotive store and I noticed no difference while turning. For my style of riding it works very well and I am glad I tried it.
Hi,I see your drive belt track to the right is that howsupposed to be? Mine track to the left should I readjusted? Thank you
The manual says that if you spin your wheel 10 turns backwards the belt should slowly make its way to the left, and if you spin it 10 times forward then it should slowly make its way to the right. It should be a slow gradual movement. Jack up the back and sit behind while spinning to watch the belt. Make sure your fingers are not going to get pinched by anything.
Thanks for the response, I had followed the instructions and I took about 5 miles ride,the belt now track more towards the right,smooth ride,thanks again for the help.
SWEET JESUS!!!! You’re a life saver🤘
Why use a car tire just to save some money? They make motorcycle tires for a reason...
I don't know where the idea comes from that we do this to save money. I do it because I prefer a car tire on the back. That's it. You ride your way, I ride my way. Get over it.
@@PaulPomerleau okay fine you don't do it to save money, you do it because you don't understand how motorcycle tires are designed to work on bikes and car tires do not. Even the slightest lean and you lose basically all contact with the ground. Plus the bead can never be set properly. Check out Fortnines video about dark side riding. It's pretty informative and you could learn alot from it. Either way safe riding ✌
"Even the slightest lean and you lose basically all contact with the ground" - OMG do some research before you make these comments.
"Check out Fortnines video about dark side riding" - A motorcycle store telling you not to use a car tire... what did you think they would say?
Thank you for your comments. I will not reply to this anymore.
@@PaulPomerleau i mean it's facts, but to each his own ✌
Thanks for video Paul, always appreciate your advice. Do you happen to have a video replacing the drive belt to go along with this?
Hi Brux, good to hear from you again. I do not currently have a video showing how to replace the drive belt. I will add it to the list. Thanks for watching.
Quick question Paul. I also ride a Victory CCT(2016). I was wondering if you heard about the rear brake line recall issue? I hear some people have been fixing it themselves. That would be a another good video for us Victory people, if you have the time. Thanks again for your informative videos. Ride safe
My bike is on the recall list but I have yet to be contacted by the company. I will wait to hear from them, but I am not too concerned about it because my engine does not misfire enough to cause a problem. I hate other people working on my bike but if they do contact me I will take all sorts of before/after pictures to see how they are going to re-route the line. If I am not satisfied then I will do it myself. I am keeping an eye on it in the meantime. But to answer your question, absolutely I will do a video on it. I do videos on everything I do... well, almost everything :)
Paul Pomerleau Thanks
I'd like to know what tire you have on there, and how it handles. I'd like to try a little darksiding myself.
It was a Bridgestone Driveguard run flat 195/55RF16 it was my first time trying it and I liked it. It was on for 3 years and had over 33,500 kilometers.
Another great video Paul, thanks.
What kind of tire is on the rear? Looks like a car tire
It is... it's called "Darksiding". Something I'm trying out to see if I like it.
Cool, I have a 2012 Victory cross Country Tour , i just put Dunlap elite 4 .. my last set was 3s Amd didn’t seem to last long at all ! Keep us in the loop on how they handle Amd what mileage you get out of them ? I’m sure a lot more that what I got on mine ... thank you your time 👍
Hey there, thanks for the help, I already checked your other video about changing my rear brake pads, also very helpful. How has it worked out with that car tire on the back? Is the handling drastically different? Will any motorcycle repair shop be able to mount that tire? Any other advice you could give?
This is my very first car tire that I have ever used and I was so nervous to take it out for the first time because of what everyone was saying about them and all the stuff that I read. But for me the handling was no different than with a motorcycle tire, and I immediately noticed how smooth the ride was. It also gave better traction over tar-snakes, leaves, gravel, paint, rain... The only downside I found is everyone giving you their vulgar opinions when they see it on your bike, calling you everything in the book right to your face, so I no longer tell anyone I have it on my bike. Anyway I mount my own tires so I have never dealt with mounting issues. My advise to you is to listen to yourself first. Do your research and don't let others scare you. The only way you are going to know if you like it is to try it. Some people don't like it, nothing wrong with that, at least they tried it. Give it a good chance, scrub it in and play around with the pressure until it is right for you. Either way, you will know for yourself if it works for you. Ride safe and have fun.
I never had any luck getting a bike shop to mount a car tire on, and it's a pain to find a place! That said, I had 20k miles on my last one before selling it and it looked new. Handling isn't an issue either- the biggest downside is the "experts" who like to tell you how crazy you are for doing it! If I could mount my own I'd slap a car tire on my XR asap. Great video btw.
Can you do a video on the wheel chucks and if you did already could you send me the hyperlink
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/xRtg2t3HvdU/w-d-xo.html
great video!!! you make a hard job much easier
Paul, great video. 👍
Is that a car tire?
Yes
Hey Paul, thank you for the videos, they are awesome. One question, what size rear tyre have you mounted on the CCT? Are you happy with a car tyre on the rear? Cheers. Bill from Australia
Hi Bill, it is a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16. For me and my style of riding I absolutely love it. Cheers.
@@PaulPomerleau thanks
I just noticed the tire?... Is that a standard car tire?
Yes, Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 run flat car tire.
Paul Pomerleau Interesting, I didn’t know that was possible. I presume you’ve ridden that beauty with both types or rear tires? Did you change it based on preference , performance or riding style?
It's called Darksiding. I had a couple of motorcycle tires on before I tried the car tire. No reason for it, just wanted to see what the hype was about. Turns out it works very well for my style of riding. All I needed to figure out was the size needed and I got that from the Darkside forums.
Great videos Paul!
What size car tire did you use? Do you like it?
It is a Bridgestone Driveguard 195/55RF16 run flat car tire. Yes, I like it very much.
Thanks paul. Do you still run the same tire or are trying something else ?
The manual tire changer from Harbor Freight combined with my 61 year old body, I am finding it harder to mount the run flat tires because they have stiffer sidewalls, so I think my next one will be a non-run flat tire. It should be easier. I don't know what kind yet. Depends on what is available in my area.
Wow that so kool thank you sir smart man!
Paul, I just replaced my tire using this video and and I had so much trouble loosening the nuts that hold the shock absorber and pushrod to the swing arm that I think they were over tightened a great deal last time the tire was replaced. When reassembling, I couldn’t see any way to apply proper torque by tightening the nut as the torque wrench and socket wouldn’t fit, so I tightened the bolt and held the nut with a wrench instead. The bolt broke long before I could reach 60 foot pounds. I have two new bolts, but was wondering if I’m missing something obvious here before I try again. Thanks so much for all that you share. Your videos have saved me a huge amount of money!
I am concerned about how the bolt broke. You adjusted the jack until the holes lined up so the bolt passes through easily, attach the nut and held it with a wrench then tightened the bolt with the torque wrench and the bolt snapped?? To me that means the bolt was already cracked or weakened or the torque wrench was not adjusted properly. I would inspect the old bolt for any defects and recheck your torque wrench. The only way to use the torque wrench on the nut in that location is to put a crowsfoot wrench on it at a 90 degree angle so not to throw off the setting. But using the torque wrench on the bolt should work if the pressure is off the bolt. Try it again and let me know. Thanks for watching.
Paul Pomerleau Ok, I got it torqued correctly with new bolts. I suspect the mechanic used an impact driver last time the tire was replaced and the bolts were weakened as a result. Breaking the two nuts loose was a nightmare. Thanks so much for your quick response!
Glad to hear you got it done. Ride safe and have fun.
Once you loosen the shock absorber and pushrod and remove the bolts do these two pieces just dangle or what? I’m trying to remove my rear tire on my ‘11 XC right now
Great video
good video and tips, thanks
Great video. Very detailed.