I just wanna say, I'm actually glad Bobblehead Bob recovered from his fall and became a staff member for the crew, even if it is just serving them drinks.
One thing: A lot of people guessed Hector was the rat because the dentist who helps break out Hoxton is played by Giancarlo Esposito. Giancarlo Esposito played Gus Fring in the AMC show Breaking Bad, in Breaking Bad there is a long standing rivalry between Gus Fring and a man named Hector Salamanca who Gus really wants dead. A friend of mine once told me "The dentist is literally Gus so either we're killing Hector or it's someone lame"
I never watched BB, but when the We Are Not The Same memes started going around, I fucking _knew_ there was something familiar about him. I literally thought he looked just like the Dentist but could never be bothered to Google it to confirm it.
With the lore around the green flu and how it acts with infected people, I dont think its very far fetched that Bain's random fit of super strength during Hell's Island could be a side effect of the green flu and he was set to turn into a tank.
@@zoneexplorer9043 I always thought that the thing we see in No Mercy is the green flu but got destroyed by Murkywater during the bombings, preventing the events of L4D, but the serum they give bain is just a poison based off the green flu that simply kills without zombification
36:46 In Aftershock, Vlad says the safes you have to steal weigh about 400lbs. So technically, if you remove the body in the bodybag (200lbs) from the calculation and add the 400lbs safes, that means heisters can carry 600lbs
Fun fact: Chains is Thanos... Kinda Chains actor played Thanos when he first appeared in the MCU Movies (I believe it was Age of Ultron post credits, not Shure) that means that Thanos is a pickle 🥒
@@anthraxboi chains is probably the most qualified actor of all the payday cast, he destroyed half of the universe and got punched in the face by captain america
The “Hoxton’s Real Name is Bodhi” might also relate to the fact that the actor who portrays Hoxton in the live action Hoxton Breakout trailer is Josh Lenn, the voice actor of Bodhi in PAYDAY 2!
That CPU thing explains a lot tbh. It always felt like the game would just be straight up harder sometimes for no apparent reason, same heist, same loadout, same difficulty. Now I know why I guess.
The thing about Cloakers having guns is weird to me. Because, as you said, your used to them having guns when going solo, but in my case, I've had Cloakers shoot at me a lot more than they've drop-kicked me directly in the face. I have terrible luck with other things, but when it comes to Cloakers I seem to be lucky enough that they'll either just shoot me or ignore me and get someone else. Maybe it's my dodge build. EDIT: it's not the dodge build, I've been running Grinder for the last few weeks, Cloakers just want nothing to do with me unless I've killed a Dozer recently.
@@DreamApostle128 I swear every time I play public games I get downed every minute or two because of those fuckers. Escaping with 23 downs is the biggest embarrassment for a max level player. 🙃
@@EckSecutive Ah, good old 23 downs and max levels. What a pain. I swear, every time I go without payday for like a week I completely forget how to play.
The split realities is probably referencing how the same heist can be done multiple times in a row and how hundreds of players can rob the same bank simultaneously
3:48 HEADCANNON: Murkywater is actually just modern day TF Industries (Tf2 takes place in the late 60s) and shifted their focus from gravel to historical pieces.
Hi everyone I just wanted to leave a little note here in regards to the small segments about Malicious carrot (Liam) to cut a long story short like myself he wanted to distance himself from payday content as a whole and move on to make more content on other things, however he currently has no plans for streaming at the moment, I know it's a small segment but I feel it might bring up questions that we've both been asked multiple times over the last few years, so can I just ask you don't go out of your way to follow him and ask about payday or why he left Thanks :)
Fun fact the VA who did some of the fire screams is the same voice actor who did Foxy, Fredbear, and Vlad the vampire in FNaF his name is Chris McCullough!
The first-person view models are pretty weird, but I think "Heister head Perspective" actually refers to the way that the game's camera isn't in the heister's head, but in their chest at the same height as their guns. This means that your bullets can come out of the centre of the camera without looking like they're going up from the gun; but it also means that if two players stand next to each other, both will be looking up at the other - your co-op partner will always look taller than your heister to you and vice-versa. As for the Jacket identity thing, I like to think that he used to work at Dennaton, the devs of Hotline Miami. He has a pager line where he puts the guard through to the Dennaton answering machine, and going from a game dev to a masked maniac already happened with Wolf so it could happen again!
Since Dennis and Jonatan were in Hotline Miami as the Janitors, going with this theory Jacket was an ardent supporter of 50 Blessings, if not a high ranking member (which in the Payday universe was something Dennaton Games was a cover for), but the movement never really went anywhere thanks to the other animal operatives getting killed by the Russian Mafia, cops, or deserted like Biker. The Janitors were killed by Biker, who bought their bluff and didn’t figure out Jacket was still alive.
I like to think Bain's rampage through Hell's Island was 100% pure skill, and with no help from the injection. We know he was a heister in his younger years, so I like to think he was just _that_ good.
An animated series most players would have loved to see: Nope, only an April fool's joke, sorry :P A TH-camr character pack nobody asked for: t h i s i s t h e w a y
@@theworstmaid i like to imagine that after the ending of payday 2, the gang split, not because it was some sort of infamous type of crap and they'd go down in legend, but rather "i'm not apart of this bullshit anymore" and then straight up split. in fact, i believe that houston was the first 1 to leave, seeing as how he opened a bar at the end of the game to be his own contractor like guy, and how he's literally the only member that took his job remotely seriously
@@caporegimeclutch9715 ethan and hila were hired(?) by the gang to help with their public image i believe, since it was around the time the government was really cracking down on crime. and presumably after fan's reactions to the dlc, it was shown that they helped further reduce the gang's popularity. i could've totally fucked that up by the way if you want a more confident and understandable explanation i think it's in the 4 hour lore video
The Last Stand connection part of this video made me really wanna see a new campaign added to L4D2 which features the 4 heisters as the survivors, showing what could have happened to them if the green flu samples they'd released truly did cause the apocalypse.
@@thespiciestmeme1181 yeah, but i don't mean just replacing the models. it would have been awesome to see an official full-fledged campaign featuring the heisters, with full voice acting and everything.
Thing is, back when OVK's The Walking Dead was a thing (and not a dead thing), they had made more than one allusion to the idea that there would be a special Payday Gang-centric story/chapter happening in the future. Given how the game ended up, that didn't happen.
I honestly prefer the old meth cooking system. Most of the voice lines were pretty straightforward so there were only 2 or 3 you had to look out for and remember. I still remember that when Bain says "iffy" (in this line he doesn't even list an ingredient) you put in Caustic Soda and whenever he says "fuck me" it's Hydrogen Chloride no matter what he says. Knowing those little quirks felt rewarding when everyone else was confused by it. The new and current system is slow and not fun. You have to listen for the ingredient, then wait to see if it's right or not which isn't very interesting.
It wasn't really a quirk though. It was a mistake left in the game by the devs because they got the audio files mixed up. It also played a different voiceline for each person so it would make one person in the team look like an idiot if they got one of the incorrect voicelines but nobody else heard it.
100%, Cook Off used to be my favorite heist. We were doing 25+ bag runs constantly. I won’t even touch the heist now. No longer are you rewarded for game knowledge, you just idle around until he confirms the ingredient. It lost a lot of intensity for this reason, it’s just a lot of idling around.
I too still remember that “iffy” means caustic soda and “fuck me” meant hydrogen chloride. I also think I remember that there was a voice line where plainly said one ingredient only to mean a different, so you genuinely had to listen to the inflection of the word.
Fun fact, my username from back then is in the original Overvault, in the special thanks section. I participated in the search, and while I was far from good enough to be amongst the first 4, I guess the devs still noticed how active I was in the search. I even have screenshots from when a dev joined our game randomly to see our progress. He had the Overkill mask on and everything. Oh, that was on Undercover btw, we were looking for secrets there even back then.
Ashley from Overkill used to be a regular on the Payday 2 General threads in 4chan's /vg/ board and used to do givaways there. The anons would refer to her as Trashley and she even accepted the moniker as she interacted with them back when it was a thing.
27:01 would have been good to mention the shadow figure that sometimes appears in the clouds when lightning strikes, very similar to a popular piece of art depicting cthulu in the clouds.
Ohh I didn't really think it was my place to VeggieBLT's masterpiece, but I did mention the lesser-known Bonnie/Hector's sister fact in one of the story videos.
47:11 This actually happened to me not long ago; I was playing Yacht with some friends and he accidently shot a guard off the edge with a shotgun, unable to answer his pager as he had fell into the water. While on my side he landed on a set of stairs, so I run over and answer the pager while he is a panicked. It was funny
9:07 funny story is that when i switched from console to pc, i set the corpse limit on ultra. this really told me how much cops ive been killing for the past year without knowing
Also it’s interesting that in the ending, Hoxton then Houston then Bodhi throw in their masks after one another… could be pure 39:13 coincidence or it’s a nod to hoxton multiple names. (Hoxton, the new Hoxton being named Houston when he returns and Hoxton in prison almost getting called Bodhi.)
Really cool idea for a 7 Day heist. It's just for the most part, the really small jobs, like all 3 normal bank hits, both jewelery and diamond store hit, art gallery, and the seventh day be First World Bank.
You actually missed one small easter egg about the Nephilim. On shacklethorn auction, you can mod/glitch your way out and into the yard, and if you look at the storm for long enough, lightning will randomly reveal one standing in the distance, though it looks much larger than the others in the game, and (don't hate on me for this) it's almost comparable to the mind flayer from stranger things.
Theoretically, the voice actors for the scream, could have been set on fire for the screams, since we allready have seen, people actually being set on fire in movies, using a special suit with multiple layers and a special liquid
but the actors put on fire doesn't get hurt by it, so it's literally useless to set on fire a voice actor with multiple layers because it won't change is acting
29:39 my theory is that the diamond used to focus the laser drill, being the metaphorical tip of the drill, because it's somehow this uber pure and is one of the reasons why the diamond was so valuable. it doesn't make sense but it's the headcanon i'm going with anyway
Oh hey, i remember that iceberg! i actually contributed and got the "Blackdozer shotgun" added on. Nice to see a deep dive into it minor edit: I've heard that the whole "Trashley" thing is due to Ashley trying to connect to the payday base on 4chan, which went about as well as you'd expect. To sweeten the relationship, ashley would post codes of DLC onto the board..... which was overlayed on top of porn/gore, to throw off scalpers (apparently). edit 2: the main thing about HRT units was that back in the day, on deathwish, they'd deal more damage than the fucking Gensec rifleman. so it turned into this meme of a dozer being a cakewalk, but a white shirted dude with an MP5 would tear you an new asshole.
My understanding of the "Trashley" thing was how she handled the community backlash from Crimefest 2015. She was really in the spotlight then in a bad way.
The porn/gore thing isn't true, don't know where you heard that. She hung out in the 4chan payday general and gave away codes. Trashley was just a nickname that stuck, no great story behind it.
19:00 Marcmb did a video on it, it's possible but requires 3, ideally 4 people to do, with 3 people pager juggling during the hack and 1 doing the C4 objective.
I like how overkill just knew some kids would at so they not only made the meth recipe as salt water but also a heister tip saying "don't try this in real life"
28:59 I'm guessing HRT being missing is in response to HRT being a real team of people in the FBI, which might have caused some complications somewhere down the line. That's only a guess though, since the FBI are in game, along with a heist where you can raid them and kill members. Difference being no specific team, names, of building locations are mentioned, where as HRT is a very real team that was mentioned that you could also kill.
the ingame name of the FBI is "federal berau of intervention" instead of "federal berau of investigation", it's sort of like the GTA 5 thing where they just swapped the letters around and were let go, as for the HRT units missing I assume it's because overkill were too cautious with the entire FBI thing, and instead of renaming the units they just deleted them so you can't upset the FBI by killing them because they simply don't exist in the game
I don't think "Shacklethorne is an H.P. Lovecraft Novel" should be down so far on the list, I mean, it's pretty obvious, in one of the intros for the heist Duke literally says "It's like we're heisting an H.P. Lovecraft novel."
The Diamond being the Golden Grin Drill isn’t a plothole. It’s not the literal drill bit, the diamond is used as a laser focuser. How that was missed, I have no idea
The specail spaw table is definetly real or at least used to be. Was playing the demo on console way back and for some reason around half the units that spawned were shields
so the duke being a time traveler one works if you think "oh, he realises he has to pen the letter to his own grandfater to complete his paradoxical cycle
The way that Jacket was added, I personally say that it's more supernatural mumbo-jumbo. The nuke was just far enough away that he was actually safe, but the radiation gave him some extra time to live. Think of it like Ghoulification in Fallout, practically immortality with a small hint of psychotic nature. Would explain how he's still alive, and maybe three-hands, too.
The Shadow Raid Helicopter Exploit is still an exploit in my opinion because it involves taking advantage of that safety measure to ensure that extra guards don't spawn and ensuring you can get the helicopter artifact if you have the skill to pull it off.
I like to imagine Jacket's tape recorder is controlled in their mouth, each of their teeth having some sort of button or sensor that allows for the audio clips to be played without needing to use their hands
Honestly at this point you could just say that he just sounds like that when talking normally and uses the tape recorders to avoid having to explain why
Glad my buddy Bile got a mention. I’m a little bummed guys like me and cloaker were left out though. I guess being graffiti in-game isn’t interesting enough for the iceberg. Great video as usual, sir. I missed out on a lot of this. Now I feel a lot more caught up. 🍻
39:22 aint that something like if you do bad ending the word resets and then new set of haisters completes the secret ending thus edning the kataru cycle?
the "Every Lobby Is A Split Reality" entry might actually be a joke entry riffing off of Warframe, where the devs have stated multiple times that every individual player's playthrough is considered canon, just in its own timeline.
It's still weird to me to see gameplay of someone seriously using the Lion's Roar and Bootleg in heists. I really hope they give SMGs the same amount of love they game the previously really bad ARs. Specifically the Tommy Gun really needs some love.
The Ar's pre buff were already pretty good. They basically over tweaked the guns. The ar's prior to the buff had some advantages over lmgs. They only really needed crits and you can just go for headshots, which can be a lot more doable because they had really good customisation. And the Ar's were better at killing bulldozers than lmgs. In terms of ease of use is where they suffered, now you can basically use them like better lmgs. Lmgs still arent bad, just that you might as well use an ar. Even things like the Bootleg was still alright to use before. It was pretty concealable and had really nice stats. You needed Crits and Berserker aced/Overkill aced and you got a nice assault rifle with lmg like capabilities. Smgs are amazing. High damage ones or mid-low damage smgs (they're very concealable) with crits are really good against bulldozers and can be decent for crowd control. Akimbo smgs can kill so much and especially after the buff that made akimbos not need ammo bags, they're ridiculously amazing.
Like I said in the comments of Barfield's Iceberg video for Payday 2 "Heisters can carry over 400lbs" most likely refers to the Aftershock Heist where Vlad claims the Vaults we carry weigh 400lbs
19:29 interesting, didnt know you could still get the Sydney Mega Mask. I got mine from a key from a streamer. if i had known they were still obtainable and didnt think it was just a one off event i would have actually donated for it.
if the heisters masks are something that has been used to fight the aliens that mean the star spangled banned imprinted on dallas mask is older then the US which is the most american thing ever in the payday universe
>in Payday Lore the Skulldozers are deemed fucking scary and people question if they're like super soldiers or some shit >but in game I just walk up to his face, unload a set of Akimbo Glocks or an entire Desert Eagle mag and go on with my day like "Yall hear somethin?"
I believe the hostage rescue units are still in The Crimewave Edition (PS and XBOX) versions of the game. I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing some of them not too long ago. They’re definitely in the 360 and PS3 versions as those are LONG abandoned.
I'm surprised the iceberg didn't include a "Planned Naruto Crossover" with The Twister mask, would be a funny entry. That mask was a hit back in the early datamining days
White Chains is actually not just the bug you mention. Some of the old promo material and posters for PDTH have a white guy wearing the chains mask (it's especially noticable on the wrists). Some posters did get it right, but i recall seeing a number of them with white chains. But i like to think that white chains and southern accent dallas are members of the paycheck crew that walked into the wrong photo studio that day
I just wanna say, I'm actually glad Bobblehead Bob recovered from his fall and became a staff member for the crew, even if it is just serving them drinks.
Definitely makes up for Dallas accidentally getting him hospitalized
Safe income for böB
@@IkeFanBoy64
To be fair it was bobs decision to jump off to catch it
If he was a better catch he would have been fine
@@penguinsrockrgr8yt216 True, but wouldn't say he "jumped" off
@@penguinsrockrgr8yt216 he didnt even know that he was near the edge
One thing: A lot of people guessed Hector was the rat because the dentist who helps break out Hoxton is played by Giancarlo Esposito. Giancarlo Esposito played Gus Fring in the AMC show Breaking Bad, in Breaking Bad there is a long standing rivalry between Gus Fring and a man named Hector Salamanca who Gus really wants dead. A friend of mine once told me "The dentist is literally Gus so either we're killing Hector or it's someone lame"
Flawless logic gives us flawless resultz
Last chance to look at me, hector.
*Sets apartment on fire*
Last chance to look at me Hector.
HA-
I never watched BB, but when the We Are Not The Same memes started going around, I fucking _knew_ there was something familiar about him. I literally thought he looked just like the Dentist but could never be bothered to Google it to confirm it.
Bravo vince
With the lore around the green flu and how it acts with infected people, I dont think its very far fetched that Bain's random fit of super strength during Hell's Island could be a side effect of the green flu and he was set to turn into a tank.
well it wasnt the green flu in payday 2.
@@zoneexplorer9043 Maybe a variation of the the green flu?
@@birdyboy3483 i dont think so, be happy that in pdth, wolf became infected.
of course, bain became the tank
we all know who's the strongest member of the payday gang
@@zoneexplorer9043
I always thought that the thing we see in No Mercy is the green flu but got destroyed by Murkywater during the bombings, preventing the events of L4D, but the serum they give bain is just a poison based off the green flu that simply kills without zombification
14:24 if the story is actually cyclical, then it's quite possible the American flag is based off of Dallas's mask, not the other way around.
I like this!
Would that mean Dallas in Texas would be named after him?
36:46 In Aftershock, Vlad says the safes you have to steal weigh about 400lbs. So technically, if you remove the body in the bodybag (200lbs) from the calculation and add the 400lbs safes, that means heisters can carry 600lbs
Then I don't want to imagine how much they can carry that amount of load plus armour, weapons and ammo
@@Circ00mspice the armour and weapons were in the calculation. However, the bullets weren't. I wonder how much that'd be
Ok so:
ICTV, minigun /w extended barrels, the rpg, ammo bags, javelins and a freaking nuke on your back
Dam he heavy
plus the other crap they can carry 800lb
@@lsdm629 Not quite. The 600lbs calculation is everything a heister can carry except for the bullets.
The creator should've added the 'old pre-beta drill sounds' in the iceberg. That thing sounded like it was opening the gates of hell.
Where can I listen to the old drill sounds?
@@wilsonmyers926 There’s plenty of beta footage online, th-cam.com/video/JSswthibvbw/w-d-xo.html
@@saloonboone You can still hear some of that old sound used in the Big Bank drill if you get really close to it.
Instead of hell sirens it's hell drills lmao
@@saloonbooneFuck me that sounds horrifying xD
Fun fact: Chains is Thanos... Kinda
Chains actor played Thanos when he first appeared in the MCU Movies (I believe it was Age of Ultron post credits, not Shure) that means that Thanos is a pickle 🥒
Chains is also in the opening of Civil War as a henchman Crossbones or Skullbone or whatever that dude's name was
@@anthraxboi chains is probably the most qualified actor of all the payday cast, he destroyed half of the universe and got punched in the face by captain america
Funniest shit I've ever seen. Seriously.
Josh brolin is not chain's voice actor lol
@@neverbeaten1146 No, but Damion Poitier made an uncredited appearance in the first avengers movie as Thanos
The “Hoxton’s Real Name is Bodhi” might also relate to the fact that the actor who portrays Hoxton in the live action Hoxton Breakout trailer is Josh Lenn, the voice actor of Bodhi in PAYDAY 2!
That CPU thing explains a lot tbh. It always felt like the game would just be straight up harder sometimes for no apparent reason, same heist, same loadout, same difficulty. Now I know why I guess.
The PD2 CPU thing I've experienced first hand when playing with friends with bad PCs ages ago, it really does make the game much easier
Still do that with a friend. He uses a PC with an ancient CPU and we can do Goat Simulator or Heat Street on DS without too much problems.
So technically PD2 was p2w before the lootboxes were added.
@@Secretcodrin It'd be more accurate to say it'd be pay to lose I think
@@Secretcodrin Yeah I'd say it's more "Pay to Lose" as the more you pay for a better CPU the harder the game gets.
The thing about Cloakers having guns is weird to me. Because, as you said, your used to them having guns when going solo, but in my case, I've had Cloakers shoot at me a lot more than they've drop-kicked me directly in the face.
I have terrible luck with other things, but when it comes to Cloakers I seem to be lucky enough that they'll either just shoot me or ignore me and get someone else.
Maybe it's my dodge build.
EDIT: it's not the dodge build, I've been running Grinder for the last few weeks, Cloakers just want nothing to do with me unless I've killed a Dozer recently.
something about ur game is dodgy for sure
i get cloaked left and right i feel like cloakers have spawn points on my backbone
@@DreamApostle128 I swear every time I play public games I get downed every minute or two because of those fuckers. Escaping with 23 downs is the biggest embarrassment for a max level player. 🙃
@@EckSecutive check doors when going through them and under cars
@@EckSecutive Ah, good old 23 downs and max levels. What a pain. I swear, every time I go without payday for like a week I completely forget how to play.
@@nerd_nato564 Yk it’s bad when the level 40 does better than you.
The split realities is probably referencing how the same heist can be done multiple times in a row and how hundreds of players can rob the same bank simultaneously
while also the same charectures being used
3:48 HEADCANNON: Murkywater is actually just modern day TF Industries (Tf2 takes place in the late 60s) and shifted their focus from gravel to historical pieces.
TF2 fan go 5 minutes without mentioning TF2 challenge
Hi everyone
I just wanted to leave a little note here in regards to the small segments about Malicious carrot (Liam) to cut a long story short like myself he wanted to distance himself from payday content as a whole and move on to make more content on other things, however he currently has no plans for streaming at the moment, I know it's a small segment but I feel it might bring up questions that we've both been asked multiple times over the last few years, so can I just ask you don't go out of your way to follow him and ask about payday or why he left
Thanks :)
What's the bet the OG Dallas VA will be on here? Hope this is a long one! Iceberg vids usually are/have to be!
Keep them hands visable
keep dem haynnds visable
we dont talk about the og dallas voice
I fucking knew it lol
dude i alrady watched it slowpoke
Fun fact the VA who did some of the fire screams is the same voice actor who did Foxy, Fredbear, and Vlad the vampire in FNaF his name is Chris McCullough!
The first-person view models are pretty weird, but I think "Heister head Perspective" actually refers to the way that the game's camera isn't in the heister's head, but in their chest at the same height as their guns. This means that your bullets can come out of the centre of the camera without looking like they're going up from the gun; but it also means that if two players stand next to each other, both will be looking up at the other - your co-op partner will always look taller than your heister to you and vice-versa.
As for the Jacket identity thing, I like to think that he used to work at Dennaton, the devs of Hotline Miami. He has a pager line where he puts the guard through to the Dennaton answering machine, and going from a game dev to a masked maniac already happened with Wolf so it could happen again!
Coming from 2023: The view actually hunches down a bit when you don the clown mask
@@ajc0072it does, but you still always appear to be shorter than other Bridget’s when right next to them
Maybe the Payday gang use body cams to let Bain see what they're all doing.
Since Dennis and Jonatan were in Hotline Miami as the Janitors, going with this theory Jacket was an ardent supporter of 50 Blessings, if not a high ranking member (which in the Payday universe was something Dennaton Games was a cover for), but the movement never really went anywhere thanks to the other animal operatives getting killed by the Russian Mafia, cops, or deserted like Biker. The Janitors were killed by Biker, who bought their bluff and didn’t figure out Jacket was still alive.
Then thats why i always looked so short compared to other teammates
I like to think Bain's rampage through Hell's Island was 100% pure skill, and with no help from the injection. We know he was a heister in his younger years, so I like to think he was just _that_ good.
Question is: what build was he running?
@@ROBOHOLIC1since we didn't see him with a gun, he must be running sociopath for the better melee
@@CelestineGuprunning sociopath with fists
3:57 MF Stev is actually short for the name of a very early payday 2 content creator/community member known as Marinersfanstev.
An animated series most players would have loved to see: Nope, only an April fool's joke, sorry :P
A TH-camr character pack nobody asked for: t h i s i s t h e w a y
kinda fitting that in canon they fucked up the gang's image
@@theworstmaid i like to imagine that after the ending of payday 2, the gang split, not because it was some sort of infamous type of crap and they'd go down in legend, but rather "i'm not apart of this bullshit anymore" and then straight up split. in fact, i believe that houston was the first 1 to leave, seeing as how he opened a bar at the end of the game to be his own contractor like guy, and how he's literally the only member that took his job remotely seriously
and they're grifters that canonically fucked up the gang's image
@@theworstmaid I was unaware of this. Could you elaborate please?
@@caporegimeclutch9715 ethan and hila were hired(?) by the gang to help with their public image i believe, since it was around the time the government was really cracking down on crime. and presumably after fan's reactions to the dlc, it was shown that they helped further reduce the gang's popularity. i could've totally fucked that up by the way
if you want a more confident and understandable explanation i think it's in the 4 hour lore video
Best part about the C. Ovk Pack, the base overkill pack wasn't included at first. It's only long-term appeal was the 4 mega masks.
43:19 I theorize that the placement of that symbol is to represent that the Overkill MC are apart of the Kataru, and it's a sort of territory marker.
The Last Stand connection part of this video made me really wanna see a new campaign added to L4D2 which features the 4 heisters as the survivors, showing what could have happened to them if the green flu samples they'd released truly did cause the apocalypse.
You can already do that with mods
@@thespiciestmeme1181 yeah, but i don't mean just replacing the models. it would have been awesome to see an official full-fledged campaign featuring the heisters, with full voice acting and everything.
@@GrachiPlays That would be pretty cool.
Like a breakout in the middle of a bank robbery or something
Thing is, back when OVK's The Walking Dead was a thing (and not a dead thing), they had made more than one allusion to the idea that there would be a special Payday Gang-centric story/chapter happening in the future.
Given how the game ended up, that didn't happen.
My Favourite Piece of Payday Logic is:
A guy in heavy body armor: Completely Fine
A guy crouching: *Aggressively calls SWAT*
Tbh if i saw somebody in heavy body armor walking around i would be less concerned than seeing a fancily suited man crouching around
OH SHIT, THANKS DUDE! I was actually working on a video break down of my own, but it's crazy to see an absolute legend tackle this massive project!
I honestly prefer the old meth cooking system. Most of the voice lines were pretty straightforward so there were only 2 or 3 you had to look out for and remember. I still remember that when Bain says "iffy" (in this line he doesn't even list an ingredient) you put in Caustic Soda and whenever he says "fuck me" it's Hydrogen Chloride no matter what he says. Knowing those little quirks felt rewarding when everyone else was confused by it. The new and current system is slow and not fun. You have to listen for the ingredient, then wait to see if it's right or not which isn't very interesting.
old system made cook off pubs even more enfuriating
You're entitled to your opinion and I respectfully disagree with you
It wasn't really a quirk though. It was a mistake left in the game by the devs because they got the audio files mixed up. It also played a different voiceline for each person so it would make one person in the team look like an idiot if they got one of the incorrect voicelines but nobody else heard it.
100%, Cook Off used to be my favorite heist. We were doing 25+ bag runs constantly. I won’t even touch the heist now. No longer are you rewarded for game knowledge, you just idle around until he confirms the ingredient. It lost a lot of intensity for this reason, it’s just a lot of idling around.
I too still remember that “iffy” means caustic soda and “fuck me” meant hydrogen chloride. I also think I remember that there was a voice line where plainly said one ingredient only to mean a different, so you genuinely had to listen to the inflection of the word.
Fun fact, my username from back then is in the original Overvault, in the special thanks section. I participated in the search, and while I was far from good enough to be amongst the first 4, I guess the devs still noticed how active I was in the search. I even have screenshots from when a dev joined our game randomly to see our progress. He had the Overkill mask on and everything. Oh, that was on Undercover btw, we were looking for secrets there even back then.
Sweet pfp
9:11 looking at the board you can see stocks for Bonk! which is another tf2 reference to the Bonk! atomic punch
They should have included silenced HE ammo around car shop release. I remember using it and trying to not break any glass.
"First I robbed the White House, now there's an apocalypse. Next thing we know, no Medic Bags!"
- Dallas, Left 4 Dead 2, probably
Ashley from Overkill used to be a regular on the Payday 2 General threads in 4chan's /vg/ board and used to do givaways there. The anons would refer to her as Trashley and she even accepted the moniker as she interacted with them back when it was a thing.
27:01 would have been good to mention the shadow figure that sometimes appears in the clouds when lightning strikes, very similar to a popular piece of art depicting cthulu in the clouds.
I do wonder if this is an updated one. Have yet to see Hector's sister featured on one of these icebergs
Ohh I didn't really think it was my place to VeggieBLT's masterpiece, but I did mention the lesser-known Bonnie/Hector's sister fact in one of the story videos.
The tournament build of the game is still accessible on Steam via right-click > Properties > Betas
47:11 This actually happened to me not long ago; I was playing Yacht with some friends and he accidently shot a guard off the edge with a shotgun, unable to answer his pager as he had fell into the water. While on my side he landed on a set of stairs, so I run over and answer the pager while he is a panicked. It was funny
9:07
funny story is that when i switched from console to pc, i set the corpse limit on ultra. this really told me how much cops ive been killing for the past year without knowing
Also it’s interesting that in the ending, Hoxton then Houston then Bodhi throw in their masks after one another… could be pure 39:13 coincidence or it’s a nod to hoxton multiple names. (Hoxton, the new Hoxton being named Houston when he returns and Hoxton in prison almost getting called Bodhi.)
Really cool idea for a 7 Day heist.
It's just for the most part, the really small jobs, like all 3 normal bank hits, both jewelery and diamond store hit, art gallery, and the seventh day be First World Bank.
You actually missed one small easter egg about the Nephilim. On shacklethorn auction, you can mod/glitch your way out and into the yard, and if you look at the storm for long enough, lightning will randomly reveal one standing in the distance, though it looks much larger than the others in the game, and (don't hate on me for this) it's almost comparable to the mind flayer from stranger things.
To reinforce that the tf2 mercs are canon in the payday lore, 9:00 shows "bonk!" On the stock market, which is scouts nuclear drink
Can’t wait for PD3 and if we get to travel the world I want to see Egypt and the pyramids and see the destruction that the dentist caused
"my friends, we're sending you to egypt to steal the pyramids. yeah, for sure."
i wonder if locke will appear in payday 3?
That would be not nice, Payday 2 style better
I just hope it's on ps4
@@dogomage9003 it will probably be on ps5 but not ps4
I hope it is on the steam deck
Theoretically, the voice actors for the scream, could have been set on fire for the screams, since we allready have seen, people actually being set on fire in movies, using a special suit with multiple layers and a special liquid
but the actors put on fire doesn't get hurt by it, so it's literally useless to set on fire a voice actor with multiple layers because it won't change is acting
29:39 my theory is that the diamond used to focus the laser drill, being the metaphorical tip of the drill, because it's somehow this uber pure and is one of the reasons why the diamond was so valuable. it doesn't make sense but it's the headcanon i'm going with anyway
Your videos are always so lovely to watch, your voice and editing are incredibly enjoyable
Oh hey, i remember that iceberg! i actually contributed and got the "Blackdozer shotgun" added on. Nice to see a deep dive into it
minor edit: I've heard that the whole "Trashley" thing is due to Ashley trying to connect to the payday base on 4chan, which went about as well as you'd expect. To sweeten the relationship, ashley would post codes of DLC onto the board..... which was overlayed on top of porn/gore, to throw off scalpers (apparently).
edit 2: the main thing about HRT units was that back in the day, on deathwish, they'd deal more damage than the fucking Gensec rifleman. so it turned into this meme of a dozer being a cakewalk, but a white shirted dude with an MP5 would tear you an new asshole.
My understanding of the "Trashley" thing was how she handled the community backlash from Crimefest 2015. She was really in the spotlight then in a bad way.
The porn/gore thing isn't true, don't know where you heard that. She hung out in the 4chan payday general and gave away codes. Trashley was just a nickname that stuck, no great story behind it.
19:00 Marcmb did a video on it, it's possible but requires 3, ideally 4 people to do, with 3 people pager juggling during the hack and 1 doing the C4 objective.
I'm convinced Marcmb can find a way to stealth Hoxton Breakout at this point.
I like how overkill just knew some kids would at so they not only made the meth recipe as salt water but also a heister tip saying "don't try this in real life"
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I'm guessing HRT being missing is in response to HRT being a real team of people in the FBI, which might have caused some complications somewhere down the line. That's only a guess though, since the FBI are in game, along with a heist where you can raid them and kill members. Difference being no specific team, names, of building locations are mentioned, where as HRT is a very real team that was mentioned that you could also kill.
the ingame name of the FBI is "federal berau of intervention" instead of "federal berau of investigation", it's sort of like the GTA 5 thing where they just swapped the letters around and were let go, as for the HRT units missing I assume it's because overkill were too cautious with the entire FBI thing, and instead of renaming the units they just deleted them so you can't upset the FBI by killing them because they simply don't exist in the game
@@thebluehat6814 Hmmm... nah. Probably gameplay related reasons
@@thebluehat6814 ....You're telling me you can upset the FBI by making them killable in a videogame? What a bunch of pussies.
As a Texan myself Dallas' beta voice is 100% accurate to how we all sound
Headcanon that Jacket has his tape recorder in his mouth and just uses his tongue to control it.
I don't think "Shacklethorne is an H.P. Lovecraft Novel" should be down so far on the list, I mean, it's pretty obvious, in one of the intros for the heist Duke literally says "It's like we're heisting an H.P. Lovecraft novel."
The Diamond being the Golden Grin Drill isn’t a plothole. It’s not the literal drill bit, the diamond is used as a laser focuser. How that was missed, I have no idea
I always wanted a 7 day heist to act as a magnum opus to your heisting career.
I think it's more rewarding to perfect one heist then 7 damn days of a heist. Jesus, no heist has ever lasted a week, lol
The specail spaw table is definetly real or at least used to be. Was playing the demo on console way back and for some reason around half the units that spawned were shields
34:24 "Right where the sleeping city of ali-a was found"
That is the most butched pronunciation of the city of R'lyeh I've ever heard Jesus
He said "Ar-liay," which is slightly more understandable- he pronounced the R as the letter. Definitely cursed though lmao
You forgot Wolf staying off the dance floor.
so the duke being a time traveler one works if you think "oh, he realises he has to pen the letter to his own grandfater to complete his paradoxical cycle
The way that Jacket was added, I personally say that it's more supernatural mumbo-jumbo. The nuke was just far enough away that he was actually safe, but the radiation gave him some extra time to live. Think of it like Ghoulification in Fallout, practically immortality with a small hint of psychotic nature. Would explain how he's still alive, and maybe three-hands, too.
That, or mind manipulation, he uses the player with his mind
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 I don't know on that.
The Shadow Raid Helicopter Exploit is still an exploit in my opinion because it involves taking advantage of that safety measure to ensure that extra guards don't spawn and ensuring you can get the helicopter artifact if you have the skill to pull it off.
I like to imagine Jacket's tape recorder is controlled in their mouth, each of their teeth having some sort of button or sensor that allows for the audio clips to be played without needing to use their hands
I hate this image of jacket just having a mouth filled with wires under his mask.
@@sud1881 Oddly terrifying…
Honestly at this point you could just say that he just sounds like that when talking normally and uses the tape recorders to avoid having to explain why
Glad my buddy Bile got a mention. I’m a little bummed guys like me and cloaker were left out though. I guess being graffiti in-game isn’t interesting enough for the iceberg. Great video as usual, sir. I missed out on a lot of this. Now I feel a lot more caught up. 🍻
Having to spell out something with the deposit boxes in the bank is such a cool idea, sucks that they scrapped it.
I think this video and your stealth 23 build video are single-handedly gonna get me back into pd2
39:22 aint that something like if you do bad ending the word resets and then new set of haisters completes the secret ending thus edning the kataru cycle?
the "Every Lobby Is A Split Reality" entry might actually be a joke entry riffing off of Warframe, where the devs have stated multiple times that every individual player's playthrough is considered canon, just in its own timeline.
Therapist: Texan Dallas From PD2 Is Not Real, He Cant Hurt You.
Texan Dallas From PD2: 53:15
With how crazy payday 2 is, maybe Jacket controls his tapes with his.. Mind?
At 34:54, you should also mention that bodhi's VA is hoxtons visual actor in hoxton breakout.
Ain't played in 8 years, saw the thumbnail preview and my first thought was "Yeah that looks about right"
19:05 Car shop can be rushed with 3+ players and Pager Juggling, as shown by Marcmb
It's still weird to me to see gameplay of someone seriously using the Lion's Roar and Bootleg in heists. I really hope they give SMGs the same amount of love they game the previously really bad ARs. Specifically the Tommy Gun really needs some love.
The Ar's pre buff were already pretty good. They basically over tweaked the guns.
The ar's prior to the buff had some advantages over lmgs.
They only really needed crits and you can just go for headshots, which can be a lot more doable because they had really good customisation.
And the Ar's were better at killing bulldozers than lmgs.
In terms of ease of use is where they suffered, now you can basically use them like better lmgs.
Lmgs still arent bad, just that you might as well use an ar.
Even things like the Bootleg was still alright to use before. It was pretty concealable and had really nice stats. You needed Crits and Berserker aced/Overkill aced and you got a nice assault rifle with lmg like capabilities.
Smgs are amazing. High damage ones or mid-low damage smgs (they're very concealable) with crits are really good against bulldozers and can be decent for crowd control. Akimbo smgs can kill so much and especially after the buff that made akimbos not need ammo bags, they're ridiculously amazing.
This video is so good that I could get up this morning,because I watched it for too long at night.
Thank you.
Like I said in the comments of Barfield's Iceberg video for Payday 2 "Heisters can carry over 400lbs" most likely refers to the Aftershock Heist where Vlad claims the Vaults we carry weigh 400lbs
I like the additional TF2 references in the stock ticker; “Bonk!” And “Conagher’s Tool & Munitions”
i couldn't stop laughing at Jacket sliding everywhere in big bank LOL
i’m so glad to see such an interest in payday 2 still!!
Stealthing all 3 days of Firestarter is one of my proudest gaming achievements.
I actually asked my chemistry teacher what the components for the Breaking Bad stuff would give, and he confirmed that it is water
Lol
Epic can't wait!
please, for the love of god, do not use that word :( ... (epic)
@@currentlypooping no!
Man I haven't touched PD2 for like 3 years and im just discovering that whole secret ending
19:29 interesting, didnt know you could still get the Sydney Mega Mask. I got mine from a key from a streamer. if i had known they were still obtainable and didnt think it was just a one off event i would have actually donated for it.
42:17 tbh this one is actually terrifying. SCP-096+titandozer=fear
22:28 it bothers me that some people don't know that Jim is short for James.
Not US people or English whatever
i’ve never played this game and know nothing about it I just really love iceberg videos about games
Breaking cams in Pdth doesnt actually make it harder for them to find you, it only delays certain spawns on maps irc. :)
This iceberg left out something. The reason bane wanted the briefcase in the hardcore henry heist.
At 9:12 it shows Conagher's tool and munitions, like Dell Conagher the engineer from tf2
I've not played payday in years but I feel weird seeing all these old bugs and stuff be part of an iceberg of lore
if the heisters masks are something that has been used to fight the aliens that mean the star spangled banned imprinted on dallas mask is older then the US which is the most american thing ever in the payday universe
I've got the mod that revamps assault waves so on top of having more downtime between assault waves we actually get HRTs
9:23 Huh, I have been half-jokingly discussing this theory with a friend of mine for ages, and I didn't even know this ticker was a thing.
It is a long time since I watch Hardcore Henry, but I think when Henry is getting a gun from a drawer, we see Jimmy's original mask inside it.
>in Payday Lore the Skulldozers are deemed fucking scary and people question if they're like super soldiers or some shit
>but in game I just walk up to his face, unload a set of Akimbo Glocks or an entire Desert Eagle mag and go on with my day like "Yall hear somethin?"
I believe the hostage rescue units are still in The Crimewave Edition (PS and XBOX) versions of the game. I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing some of them not too long ago. They’re definitely in the 360 and PS3 versions as those are LONG abandoned.
Trans Rust is pretty based headcannon in Payday tho
I always thought the heisters can carry 400 pounds was a reference to Vlad's voice line from aftershock
I'm surprised the iceberg didn't include a "Planned Naruto Crossover" with The Twister mask, would be a funny entry. That mask was a hit back in the early datamining days
Guess there's more to Dallas screaming "AHHH I'M DIE-YING!" than I thought
White Chains is actually not just the bug you mention. Some of the old promo material and posters for PDTH have a white guy wearing the chains mask (it's especially noticable on the wrists). Some posters did get it right, but i recall seeing a number of them with white chains.
But i like to think that white chains and southern accent dallas are members of the paycheck crew that walked into the wrong photo studio that day
CHAINS IS IN A PICKLE