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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2019
- I received an Elise Hayden Duet Concertina for the holiday. I'm excited to learn more about this instrument in the year ahead and want to document my progress, as there is little information about the Hayden duet concertina online.
Liberty Bellows: www.libertybellows.com/
Concertina Connection: concertinaconnection.com/
Elise Concertina: www.concertinaconnection.com/e... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
The Hayden Duet Concertina is a Fabulous instrument! I started with an Elise and soon moved on to a Wakker and then to the Button Box "Beaumont" which, in my opinion, is the Best of the Best. Like you I started with the Elise instruction book ... it simply didn't work for me, but I was committed to learning the instrument so, over the years, I did a lot of research on the Hayden System and ended up writing my own 'Primer' for the Hayden Duet. It works!!! and I now have a repertoire of over 300 songs - and I can accompany any instrument in any key. If you are interested, I would be happy to send a copy to you and any other kindred spirits. This instrument changed my life ...
Bob, I would be interested in receiving your primer. I am a self taught student with a Peacock concertina. I tried the chemnitzer concertina with its total of 104 notes to be haphazard outside of the home keys and the anglo concertina to be lacking in accidentals.
I am interested in increasing my left hand capabilities. While I have become somewhat proficient with the right hand, I tend to lose track when I add the left hand chords.
Most music with base notes seem to use notes below the range of the peacock’s left hand range. So your songs would be appreciated.
As a side question, do you change your home finger position up and down when you play in different keys, or do you use the same position and just reach for the required keys?
Thanks, tpaschka@gmail.com
Great for you, Bob! The logic of the Hayden/Wicki can't be beat. I hope your method tells learners that ears are more important than notes on a page, and that if they bear with it, it works very well. Of course, if they haven't played a concertina before, then any system is hard, and this is where many sadly give up. Ya gotta go Cro-Magnon and man-handle the beast of a squeezebox to see what it does, and push yourself and your fingers to be smarter/faster. IT CAN BE DONE. Push on, fellow free-reed players of all stripes! (This from a piano guy who learned theory very well when I studied sax and flute, but took 35 years to get a handle on jazz and ear training and what all.) Theory is one thing, but "can you grab that sound when you need it, in whatever key?" THAT IS A DIFFERENT AWARENESS. My final advice is...always use your ears. Language comes before grammar and spelling. It took me years to get some of this, hence I share! Peace and love to all.
@@micahslobcrud5958 Hi Micah ... I couldn't agree with you more! If you send your email address to me at bobmongell@gmail.com, I will send you my 'Primer'. I think you will enjoy it. Cheers, Bob
I just ordered an Elise and would be very interested in your Primer, if they’re still available. Have been playing Bass and Ukulele by sight and ear, but enjoy the sound of the concertina.
hi bob ,i just got my stagi duet concertina, could you share me the songs book?
Thanks! I would like to try the concertina myself and your video answered questions that I didn't know I had!
I'm self-taught on the Anglo system.
Thank you this helps me so much..What a beautiful looking woman
Try getting used to the layout by learning familiar songs by ear first. Then read the notes on paper for the same song. It’s a much faster connection than trying to think about where each note on the instrument is relative to the sheet music. I learned Danny Boy and What do you do with a drunken sailor within the first day of trying my 100 year old German C/F concertina I got off of eBay. I use my mandolin sheet music, and realized that my 20 button has the same range as the mandolin up to 12 fret of high string, and is half an octave below the low string. Amazing! Mandolin is tuned identical to violin for those unfamiliar. Perfect for the entire human vocal range.
What a great approach!
your voice is sweet
I suggest that for efficient melody playing, consider the english concertina. Since notes are unisonoric, switching between hands allows for better phrasing. I never got along well with the anglo concertina. Also, check out mudcat.org as an old fashioned list of traditional music topics. Though I, as a piano player and teacher, love the IDEER of left and right, METHINKS THAT on a small instrument, it seems like melody is more important than harmony, and thus, fast licks could likely be played more easily by dividing the notes between the hands. Check out Simon Thoumire on youtube, who seems to be a world-class English Concertina player. I hope this helps any and all who inquire about such. If you want to get started, get a piano accordion and see what you think. Then grow from there.
Yet, for those who are fluent in music theory, the logic of an isomorphic system as used in C and B system accordions might just float your boat when it comes to a unisonoric concertina. Modern music needs a fully chromatic system, and I just hope to help hobbyist muscians who THINK that they know, but don't really know. Basically, once you memorize a small ball of music theory info, each key is the same, it just depends upon your physical awareness on your paricular instrument. Which, is why you practice, by the way!
Basically, once you know music theory at a more than basic level, then you can branch out into B and C system accordions. If you can play piano in at least 5 keys, consider checking out english concertina. If you have only a basic knowledge of harmonica, then stick to anglo concertina. What say ye, readers and crtiics?
Thanks for sharing!
Actually, as I age, and since I have piano skills, I've been thinking of getting a circa $450 US Hammond 44 Melodica, since one can use the breath to shape or wobble the sound. I also play woodwinds. My only concern is that normally the left hand is just holding the long keyboard, which is a waste, but I've seen youtube vids where melodica players use a strap and hold the instrument vertically and the left hand plays low notes from the backside of the keyboard--that's a new challenge!!
I should add that in the past few months I managed to find a Hayden system concertina online, 48 key Stagi, but since the breath is so easy to use (for me), I am certainly willing to dump it--and possibly regret it--but hey....any of youse wants it? We'll find a way to exchange info
@@micahslobcrud5958 Do you dumped it now?
Anglo Concertina advances your concept of "efficient playing for better phrasing" by both switching hands, and switching bellows direction. This allows for more precise note-playing, especially in quick succession. It also enforces steady, rhythmic playing, as one almost "dances" with the instrument whilst playing.
A more advanced yet concept exists in the Bandoneon and in Chemnitzer Concertinas. The only reason I don't play those is that the anglo concertina is far easier to tote around.
Anglo is the best system by far. Easiest way to tell is by ear. Listen to Cormac Begley, Noel Hill, Mohsen Amini, Jack Talty, or any Irish player for that matter. English Concertina music pales in comparison.
Hi. I have a Hayden Duet and it's really nice. It plays the same note on the push and pull. Also, once you learn a song, you can change to another key using the same pattern. I started with the Stagi (from Liberty Bellows) - then upgraded to the Beaumont (from the Button Box). Accordions and concertinas are fun! Happy Dabbling!
Thanks for sharing!
Boa noite
Será que é muito caro esse instrumento?
Are these chromatic?
Geez, these are $425 and they sound like a toy.
Partly because I have only my phone for recording. But the instruments are pricey-this is the most affordable duet.