The “you don’t have to be right” clause is actually really important, you learn a lot more from making a bad plan and losing than you do from not planning at all.
Same with exercising better to start off shitting then spending forever trying to figure out the exact right place to put your body. You're never gonna learn unless you start
Another important thing is determining if what you did was a bad decision or if it just didn't work out for some reason or another: doing the wrong timing for a meaty, throwing too early in a blockstring so it doesn't connect, etc. There's good ideas there, just need to iron out the specifics.
@@hands-ongaming7180 that's true, which is why it also helps to get advice on the right direction to go, as well as always putting in time for analysis so you don't just grind a bad habit into yourself all week
You're right I agree don't take anything from the video🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Well guile was originally an offensive character who's meant to pressure/decieve and manipulate his opponents. . . . Hence his name, Guile. Guile has now been made defensive and offensive in sf6 but his core strength is indeed offensive.
really glad to see a return to form with more conceptual fighting game content. i used to binge these videos before i even started playing fighting games regularly. road to master was fun but this kind of game theory stuff is what i really watch sajam for. hoping for a lot more of these general concept videos.
@@hipsterroxas2626it was only a short break for road to master, this kind of stuff I always did before and I’ll do it again now. It’s nice to change things up
Yeah that’s the plan. It’s nice to shake things up and go back and forth. For example people have been asking for more analysis again, which is something I did basically non stop before and I would get “are you even playing?” comments.
Interesting, the "who's the attacker vs who's the defender" segment bears striking resemblance to the "Who's the Beatdown" concept in MTG and in trading card games as a whole. As a long time player of both FGs and TCGs I'm kinda surprised I never made that connection until now
funny you say that, sajam has a few mtg/tcg adjacent videos on his channel, if you or anyone reading hasnt seen it, its the types of fighting game players video and the laugh's theory video where he looks at a core a gaming video and talks about concepts much like this one shown here!
Don't know if Sajam knows this or just forgot about it, but there is an option in training mode that highlights you red when you're doing a move that can be special cancelled (and blue if it can be super cancelled), so that can help you out in learning what good pokes you can use.
@@LordFunkyFist Also you have to understand that these videos aren't really JUST for SF6. The ideas can translate to basically any fighting game, so focusing too much on features that might not even exist in other games isn't a good idea.
- Find moves to control ground and air with e.g. special-cancelable moves - Am I the attacker or defender? - Find where to stand: What’s the opponent furthest poke, threaten around that range (jump, whiff punish, DI) and try you can get into your range - Get comfortable with different ranges
Even though I don't tend to get much out of these sorts of videos myself, they do actually help a lot because I can send them to friends. In more niche cases I can refer them to people I fight that struggle to understand certain concepts. I think I'm an okay teacher, but I rarely have the patience to properly teach either lol.
i’m still pretty much a beginner player (plat in sf6) so these videos are still somewhat useful to me. in general, i think a lot of sajam’s content is helpful for stripping fighting games down to their essential elements and giving me reference points for things that i might know logically, but don’t implement intuitively (yet).
@@eebbaa5560 A bit better than a beginner. Always remember there are loads of people who would kill to have your rank lol. You're doing great fam. It also helps that a lot of it is visual learning. Which for whatever reason is a rarity in content. A lot of it is less "just do x or y" and more so about why you're doing x or y, but reminding you not to forget z.
Can confirm! 100 hours in sfv and i’ve never left low bronze lol, I think i have the theory down pretty well, I usually understand everything sajam is talking about, but executing on those things is where I falter lol
@@jacksonbranbydid you want a sparring partner maybe? I've coached loads of friends and I genuinely enjoy doing it. I'm only plat 2 but I understand the theory and at least that way our fights can be productive for both of us.
This is what I really needed. There are plenty of creators who make content on how to play neutral but never actually break down the decision making or thought process that goes into implementing it into your game plan. And in such a time efficient manner.A video dedicated to controlling the airspace (mainly on how to set up jump ins) would be amazing
A concept I like is the shoto gameplan since in that mid-ish range you can represent all options: walk forward poke which loses to counter pokes, jumps which lose to anti-airs, and fireballs that lose to jumps. If you're full screen then jumping a fireball isn't a threat, if you're too close you're unlikely to just do a fireball since it won't be safe. So essentially you're doing the same thing for your character: my long range option covers a dash or forward movement, I'm at a good range to anti-air, and I can also poke/counterpoke or walk forward if you walk back. Of course there's matchup nuances like you might be inclined to jump at a charge character if they're walking since they won't have enough time to charge, or you might be more focused on poking/counterpoking rushdown characters since they want to initiate most of the time but it really depends on your specific tools vs theirs
This video alone massively increased my understanding of the game and made me look at it in a completely new light. When playing this evening I was able to understand what I was supposed to be doing and what was happening, despite already having well over a 150 hours in it. Thanks a bunch Sajam!
You have no idea how many times i come back to this video when im trying to work on finding gameplans and learning a new character. Thank you for this one.
"So you load up into training mo-" 🚪🚶 Nice try whippersnapper; though this is good advice and I do like the trick of drive-rushing after a move to check if it's special-cancellable
Thank you for this, Sajam! For someone like me who's new to SF and getting used to playing in a box, this definitely helps me game plan more. Coming from Tekken, there are a lot of things like I need to NOT do in SF like jumping in too much because I just feel trapped in corner pressure situations unlike in Tekken where I can just as easily SS.
The point about asking whether you're the one who's supposed to engage or not is very important. Sometimes it's a character thing, like most characters having to approach Guile and JP, but other times it's a player thing. Like X player might have poor decision making when put under pressure, so even if you're playing Guile it might be best to go after them. Most importantly, I think it's an important point because for beginners they really struggle to adapt/know what to change about their play when they are getting beaten. If you're cognizant of the decison you originally made to either engage or not, it would likely be the first thing you change when losing. Which is a good step in the right direction. Obviously, the higher level you get, the more in depth and fast paced the adaptations become. It's what makes fighting games fun and I feel like it's probably the most overlooked aspect of teaching beginners.
Been trying to get into SF6 lately as someone new to fighting games and I’ve been so lost trying to form my game plan, so this came at the perfect time :’)
Banger 🤘🏿 My zangief gameplan is just kinda walk em down and overwhelm them with pressure and fear. Adding in those anti airs and spacing for different characters with pokes is gonna make all the difference 👌🏿
I send any fighting game beginner to Matt Sciar's Beyond Technical beginner guide for USF4 from 2013. The concepts can be applied to any FG and are identical to Sajam's advice.
I’m still an fgc infant making my way through low plat but I’m a decade long StarCraft player and this video really speaks to me. The striking similarity between StarCraft and Street fighter is that when you boil it down the gameplan really is incredibly simple. You make workers, you expand, you make units and you keep your resources low. That’s it. That’s all you need to react diamond/low masters. And yeah you learn how to scout and react to cheese along the way, but you can get so far with just the fundamentals and people always try to over complicate. I’m gonna head back onto Ryu ranked and try the right spot to hit HP over and over.
Can i ask what i can do when Ken is throw looping me in the corner? It feel like everything I do is wrong and they can easier kill me with the mix up. I am using Zangief.
A decent first layer of defense against throw loops is delay teching. That protects you against both meaty strikes and meaty throw. Demonstrate to your opponent that you're capable of this, and they'll have to change up their pressure on your wakeup, and you'll have a lot more room to breathe. They might adjust by attempting to shimmy you, but you can adjust in turn by blocking, parrying, or just jumping out, etc.
how should i apply the idea of mirroring movement and maintaining a certain spacing in a game like guilty gear where most characters have a really fast and safe forward run? should i just react to dashes with a poke and apply pressure from there?
Sajam, quick question: in diamond, many people won't just walk back and forth, they will do the most random shit most of the time. DR into anything or in Jamie's case, an OD rekka out of nowhere. Am I just supposed to block? Does that factor in your gameplan or nah? And thanks for the class!
The part around 6 minutes and 25 seconds where you mention moving backwards if they walk forward or moving forwards if they walk backwards applies in Overwatch and MMA as well. I listen to other TH-camrs like Awkward in overwatch or Mighty Mouse Demetrius Johnson in MMA, and they both say the same thing .
I wouldnt say so. A poke is a move that you use to keep away the oponent that is approaching on ground, for sin id say his crouch MP is a good poke since its special cancellable. His slide is kind of a way to start his offense, like dealing with fire ball characters
That being said, Sin is a defense character, of course he can start pressure and be offensive but most of the time you will be the one controling space and keeping away
I can learn characters quickly and compete at the Diamond 1 or 2 level with more than half the cast. My problem is my main is stuck in Diamond 4 and 5. My win rate is dropping closer to 50 percent.
sajam, I know it's not related to the video content, but can you please make a video about all the communication errors that occur while searching for ranked matches? The ranked mode is mostly unplayable right now. I feel it happens because Capcom insists on finding you a match that is near to you, and that limits the pool of players, so we get those errors.tnx bro.
I really couldn't get into SF6 and I'm still mainly a Strive player, so it's nice to see a Sajam video that isn't exclusively about or applicable to SF6. It's been a while.
as someone who couldn’t really get into strive but is also kind of burned out on sf6, this video is really refreshing. taking a step back from the game and thinking about concepts holistically helps me to remember what i find appealing about these games in the first place.
While I agree that forming a basic gameplan is one of the most helpful things a beginner can do, I think framing matchups as an "attacker" and "defender" might be harmful to beginners. Or at least, it was harmful to me. Not so much if they are the defender, but a beginner player thinking they are supposed to be the attacker. I know that when I was a beginner, being the attacker meant getting to the zoner by any means necessary. Can't get close on the ground? Jump. Have them near the corner? Get close and hit them...and then get jumped over and chase them to the other side. It's not that the advice is wrong, I just think beginner players will have some have false connotations with the term "attacker."
I am a new player to fighting games and after 10 months of playing Strive (and a bit of sf6) I still struggle so much with everything, still a floor 6 newbie. People have told me I need to have a game plan and I think they’re right. This video came out just at the right time, however I hope this can translate from sf6 to Strive since I don’t know nothing about these games :l
I think check your basic tools is true to every game to make some plan. Walking near danger zone to be ready to wiff punish is basic concept to almost all fighting games. But corner pressure in Strive(and every GG game in series) is different from SF. GG is more dynamic, it's hard to not let opponent fly away if you don't really stand close of course and pressure him with your attacks. Burst also exist. SF6 have very strict and unsafe jumps, so it's more predictable and punishable
cancelable moves? alright. *[loads zangief into training mode]* let's see what turns red or blue. okay he's got a few red moves. they indeed cancel into DI, but i noticed something else. although you can indeed cancel from some moves into SPD or russian suplex (not express bc you're too close), it seems to always whiff. even the level 3 whiffs! also, for double lariat, the only blue move i can find (cancelable into "certain" specials/supers) i can't figure out what it can cancel into. oh wait i got his level 3 to go off during double lariat... but it whiffs 🤣
upon further testing, siberian express works out of most cancelable moves as long as you aren't too close. and the cancelable moves can at least go into a double lariat. so there's that too
2 minutes in and I’m already reminded what I dislike about SF6. DI is super centralizing so my pokes and pressure game need to be organized around being able to cancel in case they DI me. It’s super restricting in a not fun way.
most characters have good pokes that can cancel into DI also people don’t DI mid screen cuz you can just counter easily unless you’re like in copper, then people will DI mid screen
The “you don’t have to be right” clause is actually really important, you learn a lot more from making a bad plan and losing than you do from not planning at all.
Same with exercising better to start off shitting then spending forever trying to figure out the exact right place to put your body. You're never gonna learn unless you start
Another important thing is determining if what you did was a bad decision or if it just didn't work out for some reason or another: doing the wrong timing for a meaty, throwing too early in a blockstring so it doesn't connect, etc. There's good ideas there, just need to iron out the specifics.
The problem is that you can build bad habits. Trust me I’m a coach irl and I see this a lot
@@hands-ongaming7180 that's true, which is why it also helps to get advice on the right direction to go, as well as always putting in time for analysis so you don't just grind a bad habit into yourself all week
@@NihongoWakannai weeks is fine. It becomes a problem when you do a bad habit for YEARS
But Mr. Jam, i'm a Guile main, my strategy was decided 30 years ago >:(
Same thing. Guile is pretty versatile and can play well at many ranges.
You're right I agree don't take anything from the video🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Well guile was originally an offensive character who's meant to pressure/decieve and manipulate his opponents. . . . Hence his name, Guile.
Guile has now been made defensive and offensive in sf6 but his core strength is indeed offensive.
yeah, you can tell. his design sucks ass
really glad to see a return to form with more conceptual fighting game content. i used to binge these videos before i even started playing fighting games regularly.
road to master was fun but this kind of game theory stuff is what i really watch sajam for. hoping for a lot more of these general concept videos.
Here to bump this. Pandemic sajam content has a lot more game theory content out and I miss it
@@hipsterroxas2626it was only a short break for road to master, this kind of stuff I always did before and I’ll do it again now. It’s nice to change things up
Yeah that’s the plan. It’s nice to shake things up and go back and forth. For example people have been asking for more analysis again, which is something I did basically non stop before and I would get “are you even playing?” comments.
Big agree love this content
@@SupermanSajamI loved it when I was new and it was pretty much my podcast for when I was at work. I’d just let it run on autoplay.
Dont forget Training mode has settings that make your character flash a color when a move is cancellable. Really useful
Interesting, the "who's the attacker vs who's the defender" segment bears striking resemblance to the "Who's the Beatdown" concept in MTG and in trading card games as a whole. As a long time player of both FGs and TCGs I'm kinda surprised I never made that connection until now
funny you say that, sajam has a few mtg/tcg adjacent videos on his channel, if you or anyone reading hasnt seen it, its the types of fighting game players video and the laugh's theory video where he looks at a core a gaming video and talks about concepts much like this one shown here!
This video helped me break a plateau and hit diamond so thanks.
Don't know if Sajam knows this or just forgot about it, but there is an option in training mode that highlights you red when you're doing a move that can be special cancelled (and blue if it can be super cancelled), so that can help you out in learning what good pokes you can use.
Yeah it’s great, but I just have a simple way to check so people don’t have to mess with options they don’t know about
@@SupermanSajam Understandable have a nice day ✌️
@@LordFunkyFist Also you have to understand that these videos aren't really JUST for SF6. The ideas can translate to basically any fighting game, so focusing too much on features that might not even exist in other games isn't a good idea.
- Find moves to control ground and air with e.g. special-cancelable moves
- Am I the attacker or defender?
- Find where to stand: What’s the opponent furthest poke, threaten around that range (jump, whiff punish, DI) and try you can get into your range
- Get comfortable with different ranges
Even though I don't tend to get much out of these sorts of videos myself, they do actually help a lot because I can send them to friends. In more niche cases I can refer them to people I fight that struggle to understand certain concepts. I think I'm an okay teacher, but I rarely have the patience to properly teach either lol.
i’m still pretty much a beginner player (plat in sf6) so these videos are still somewhat useful to me.
in general, i think a lot of sajam’s content is helpful for stripping fighting games down to their essential elements and giving me reference points for things that i might know logically, but don’t implement intuitively (yet).
@@eebbaa5560 A bit better than a beginner. Always remember there are loads of people who would kill to have your rank lol. You're doing great fam.
It also helps that a lot of it is visual learning. Which for whatever reason is a rarity in content. A lot of it is less "just do x or y" and more so about why you're doing x or y, but reminding you not to forget z.
Can confirm! 100 hours in sfv and i’ve never left low bronze lol, I think i have the theory down pretty well, I usually understand everything sajam is talking about, but executing on those things is where I falter lol
@@jacksonbranbydid you want a sparring partner maybe? I've coached loads of friends and I genuinely enjoy doing it. I'm only plat 2 but I understand the theory and at least that way our fights can be productive for both of us.
Yea I send these to friends too lol
This is what I really needed. There are plenty of creators who make content on how to play neutral but never actually break down the decision making or thought process that goes into implementing it into your game plan. And in such a time efficient manner.A video dedicated to controlling the airspace (mainly on how to set up jump ins) would be amazing
A concept I like is the shoto gameplan since in that mid-ish range you can represent all options: walk forward poke which loses to counter pokes, jumps which lose to anti-airs, and fireballs that lose to jumps. If you're full screen then jumping a fireball isn't a threat, if you're too close you're unlikely to just do a fireball since it won't be safe. So essentially you're doing the same thing for your character: my long range option covers a dash or forward movement, I'm at a good range to anti-air, and I can also poke/counterpoke or walk forward if you walk back. Of course there's matchup nuances like you might be inclined to jump at a charge character if they're walking since they won't have enough time to charge, or you might be more focused on poking/counterpoking rushdown characters since they want to initiate most of the time but it really depends on your specific tools vs theirs
This video alone massively increased my understanding of the game and made me look at it in a completely new light. When playing this evening I was able to understand what I was supposed to be doing and what was happening, despite already having well over a 150 hours in it. Thanks a bunch Sajam!
You have no idea how many times i come back to this video when im trying to work on finding gameplans and learning a new character. Thank you for this one.
On the topic of guile as well, you can throw boom and then bazooka knee to gain space while maintaining back charge
"So you load up into training mo-"
🚪🚶
Nice try whippersnapper; though this is good advice and I do like the trick of drive-rushing after a move to check if it's special-cancellable
Your series exploring everyone was so sick, you got me to pickup JP ironically
Thank you for this, Sajam! For someone like me who's new to SF and getting used to playing in a box, this definitely helps me game plan more. Coming from Tekken, there are a lot of things like I need to NOT do in SF like jumping in too much because I just feel trapped in corner pressure situations unlike in Tekken where I can just as easily SS.
The point about asking whether you're the one who's supposed to engage or not is very important. Sometimes it's a character thing, like most characters having to approach Guile and JP, but other times it's a player thing. Like X player might have poor decision making when put under pressure, so even if you're playing Guile it might be best to go after them.
Most importantly, I think it's an important point because for beginners they really struggle to adapt/know what to change about their play when they are getting beaten. If you're cognizant of the decison you originally made to either engage or not, it would likely be the first thing you change when losing. Which is a good step in the right direction.
Obviously, the higher level you get, the more in depth and fast paced the adaptations become. It's what makes fighting games fun and I feel like it's probably the most overlooked aspect of teaching beginners.
Been trying to get into SF6 lately as someone new to fighting games and I’ve been so lost trying to form my game plan, so this came at the perfect time :’)
Banger 🤘🏿
My zangief gameplan is just kinda walk em down and overwhelm them with pressure and fear.
Adding in those anti airs and spacing for different characters with pokes is gonna make all the difference 👌🏿
Love this! Great advice as always
Thanks for this! I’m new to SF6, and I appreciate how this advice gives a solid starting point for making a game plan. 👍🏻
I send any fighting game beginner to Matt Sciar's Beyond Technical beginner guide for USF4 from 2013. The concepts can be applied to any FG and are identical to Sajam's advice.
I’m still an fgc infant making my way through low plat but I’m a decade long StarCraft player and this video really speaks to me.
The striking similarity between StarCraft and Street fighter is that when you boil it down the gameplan really is incredibly simple. You make workers, you expand, you make units and you keep your resources low. That’s it. That’s all you need to react diamond/low masters. And yeah you learn how to scout and react to cheese along the way, but you can get so far with just the fundamentals and people always try to over complicate.
I’m gonna head back onto Ryu ranked and try the right spot to hit HP over and over.
This is super helpful, thanks brother.
Can i ask what i can do when Ken is throw looping me in the corner? It feel like everything I do is wrong and they can easier kill me with the mix up. I am using Zangief.
A decent first layer of defense against throw loops is delay teching. That protects you against both meaty strikes and meaty throw.
Demonstrate to your opponent that you're capable of this, and they'll have to change up their pressure on your wakeup, and you'll have a lot more room to breathe. They might adjust by attempting to shimmy you, but you can adjust in turn by blocking, parrying, or just jumping out, etc.
Great video!
how should i apply the idea of mirroring movement and maintaining a certain spacing in a game like guilty gear where most characters have a really fast and safe forward run? should i just react to dashes with a poke and apply pressure from there?
Sajam, quick question: in diamond, many people won't just walk back and forth, they will do the most random shit most of the time. DR into anything or in Jamie's case, an OD rekka out of nowhere. Am I just supposed to block? Does that factor in your gameplan or nah? And thanks for the class!
The part around 6 minutes and 25 seconds where you mention moving backwards if they walk forward or moving forwards if they walk backwards applies in Overwatch and MMA as well. I listen to other TH-camrs like Awkward in overwatch or Mighty Mouse Demetrius Johnson in MMA, and they both say the same thing .
incoming classic sajam vid
Hell yeah new Sajam vid
My problem is that in a complete lack of strategy i always want to attack right away like a idiot.
I need to learn to wait and defend sometime.
I think my biggest problem is playing as the defender even when I’m not in a given match up.
Yo when is Sajam joining a tournament - The commentator getting commentated
do ground slides like Dhalsim's count as pokes for determining where you should stand in a match?
I wouldnt say so. A poke is a move that you use to keep away the oponent that is approaching on ground, for sin id say his crouch MP is a good poke since its special cancellable. His slide is kind of a way to start his offense, like dealing with fire ball characters
That being said, Sin is a defense character, of course he can start pressure and be offensive but most of the time you will be the one controling space and keeping away
Is it strange that I easily hit a DP input on reaction than a simple anti air? Every time I actively try to do it on reaction I choke real hard.
I can learn characters quickly and compete at the Diamond 1 or 2 level with more than half the cast. My problem is my main is stuck in Diamond 4 and 5. My win rate is dropping closer to 50 percent.
learn new stuff, change you’re game. if your win rate is evening out that means you’ve plateaued and need to level up your game
sajam, I know it's not related to the video content, but can you please make a video about all the communication errors that occur while searching for ranked matches? The ranked mode is mostly unplayable right now. I feel it happens because Capcom insists on finding you a match that is near to you, and that limits the pool of players, so we get those errors.tnx bro.
I really couldn't get into SF6 and I'm still mainly a Strive player, so it's nice to see a Sajam video that isn't exclusively about or applicable to SF6. It's been a while.
as someone who couldn’t really get into strive but is also kind of burned out on sf6, this video is really refreshing.
taking a step back from the game and thinking about concepts holistically helps me to remember what i find appealing about these games in the first place.
While I agree that forming a basic gameplan is one of the most helpful things a beginner can do, I think framing matchups as an "attacker" and "defender" might be harmful to beginners. Or at least, it was harmful to me. Not so much if they are the defender, but a beginner player thinking they are supposed to be the attacker. I know that when I was a beginner, being the attacker meant getting to the zoner by any means necessary. Can't get close on the ground? Jump. Have them near the corner? Get close and hit them...and then get jumped over and chase them to the other side.
It's not that the advice is wrong, I just think beginner players will have some have false connotations with the term "attacker."
I am a new player to fighting games and after 10 months of playing Strive (and a bit of sf6) I still struggle so much with everything, still a floor 6 newbie. People have told me I need to have a game plan and I think they’re right. This video came out just at the right time, however I hope this can translate from sf6 to Strive since I don’t know nothing about these games :l
I think check your basic tools is true to every game to make some plan. Walking near danger zone to be ready to wiff punish is basic concept to almost all fighting games. But corner pressure in Strive(and every GG game in series) is different from SF. GG is more dynamic, it's hard to not let opponent fly away if you don't really stand close of course and pressure him with your attacks. Burst also exist. SF6 have very strict and unsafe jumps, so it's more predictable and punishable
Don't play the game as if it's a single player game. Constantly ask yourself what your opponent is going to do next and how to stop it
Thanks for the replies and help!
cancelable moves? alright. *[loads zangief into training mode]* let's see what turns red or blue. okay he's got a few red moves. they indeed cancel into DI, but i noticed something else. although you can indeed cancel from some moves into SPD or russian suplex (not express bc you're too close), it seems to always whiff. even the level 3 whiffs! also, for double lariat, the only blue move i can find (cancelable into "certain" specials/supers) i can't figure out what it can cancel into. oh wait i got his level 3 to go off during double lariat... but it whiffs 🤣
upon further testing, siberian express works out of most cancelable moves as long as you aren't too close. and the cancelable moves can at least go into a double lariat. so there's that too
my game plan was always "win", but somehow i always lose
Offensive is the best defense
Cobra Kai doesn't die
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bro was so excited he couldn’t spell
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2 minutes in and I’m already reminded what I dislike about SF6. DI is super centralizing so my pokes and pressure game need to be organized around being able to cancel in case they DI me. It’s super restricting in a not fun way.
Why did you feel the need to comment this.
It just punishes mindless flowchart players that poke with the same long range poke/unsafe gimmick over and over.
most characters have good pokes that can cancel into DI also people don’t DI mid screen cuz you can just counter easily unless you’re like in copper, then people will DI mid screen
@@hesh1491I'm in like Diamond 2 and still see people hit random DI in neutral midscreen all the time
@@brad_soupthey still do it in 1400s master too don't worry.