Jay-Z and Dame Dash Break Up Explained: "Jay-Z saw Dame’s ceiling." - Steve Stoute | CLUB SHAY SHAY
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- Jay-Z and Dame Dash Break Up Explained:
“Jay-Z saw Dame’s ceiling… Jimmy Iovine had this line, ‘When the sh*t gets bigger than the cat, you have to get rid of the cat.” - Steve Stoute
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Shannon is absolutely killing in 2024. Getting pushed out of Undisputed has transformed him. Inspiring
💯💯💯
I just hope he works on his interviewing skills. It feels like the platform blew up to quick for his skills to mature with it
give it time or this might be good it feels like a natural conversation @CMoore-fw2it
I agree the guests feel more relaxed and give more@@Lnemo77
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“Who helping you with these questions“
No bigger compliment to your staff
Agreed...Aha. On has assembled a solid team an I'm so proud of him.
Doesn't take a genius to ask a good question... especially to someone who has so much information to offer
💯. All around great job
Dame is about to go on Shannon's show and do a Katt William level response.
That would be epic
you know that!!!!!!!!! JAY Z time is up allegedly watch Sloane Bella!
😅😅 it's definitely coming (Dame Dash voice...PAUSE)
Dame will go on IIWII before club shay shay
Yes cause this is Guy is not it.
Love hearing about a local legend from Bedstuy making moves like Jayz and Biggie. Two iconic legends.
JAY has always beem in my playlist and is universal.
you wont once him dating under gae girls like riri sat 15
Jayz took the game by storm after Biggie passed away and never dropped the torch 🔥. Just like what Jay predicted on his single "The City Is Mine". 💪😎
He wishes Ye just kept making beats for him too
Cuz he cut down others careers. He a hater but he hated to that bag.
@@nelsonbermudez8273shut up white boy
Jay got there because he put in the work like Biggie, who was unfortunately taken down in his prime.
Bingo
you Think he had a big work ethic ???
Jay has become a legend in his own right and his legacy continues after all these years since Biggie passed away 27 years ago.
Could he had done it if biggie didn't die??
So many people c9mplain about change, but Jay made positive changes and gave us more to appreciate in this culture created by us for all.
Whos helping with this questions. Respect you Shannon for all of your hard work
@ckidd8681 Stoute wrote that question... Shannon looks good for asking it...
You really think he recalls what he did 20+ years ago in this much depth, and answers immediately?
@@MuhammadImHardBruceLeeyes I remember important things from 20 years ago
Shannon be doing his homework💯
There is no way you can discredit Jayz since he ventured on his own, like Biggie to be a conglomerate.
Jay is the GOAT, no question. He checks off on all the requirements and more.
😂😂😂😂
😂😅😂
FACTSSSS
It's good to hear this side of the stories. Hope the best for Dame and Jay.
Club Shay Shay has the podcast game on lock!!!!! The car interview is so dope!!!!!
Jay has created a strong legacy and it shows all the work he put in after all these years.
Exactly. From Roc A Fella, Roc A Wear, 40/40 Club, Roc Nation, D’usse and the countless artists he’s put on? Can’t knock down Jay’s hustle. That’s why I’m a huge fan 🙌🏾
Great conversation. Shay Shay needs that 50 cent convo💯
that would be fire! ♋️+♋️
Jayz contributions to hip hop can never be questioned.
Dame’s contribution roc-a -fella roc a wear paid in full will go down in history
Jayz held is down long enough, not only is the city is his, so is the game.
And Dame has been mad ever since
Lol. Right .
Yes Dame is still mad
I remember buying those singles and tapes From Biggie Jay and Nas back in the day.
Legendary
Legendary days, my first two albums purchased was BIG ready to die and Jay Vol 2 and that was 4 years apart.
The most dangerous person in room is the person that doesn’t realize that he’s that he’s the problem
In short, Jay Z was more likeable, agreeable, easier to work with. That is all it came down to. Nothing more nothing less. One works better in a corporate setting and one doesn’t.
Jay Z is the TALENT and Businessman, Dame has to rely on others.
If ppl knew & simply understood that Dame was actually a textbook classic unevolved Taurus male. They have some good qualities yet the bad ones such as Egoistical + closed minded & inflexible + stubborn & resistant to change + prone to Narcissism & tyrannical control freakish issues. Sadly outweigh the F out of the good qualities
And now he's apart of the evil ssa Elite doing effed up ish and people are on here praising him like he's some accomplished god smdh. In order to get to the top you've sacrifice and do something strange for a piece of change. Just look at Puff Daddy, Jay's NEXT just watch and see.
Jay has contributed so much to the culture. That's definitely a given truth.
Jayz brought change into the game and made it fun to be a businessman and icon. Thank sir.
Jay was able to grow because he was a business man and a hustler who wanted to grow. Great story!
Great point
I believe that Beyoncé played a role in Jay-s success as well.
Having the right partner in life is key!
Jay z got a boss, he ain't no hustler 😅
Wrong Whyte Jews doing the same thing. Dame was doing
From Marcy Projects to being worth over a billion. He's the definition of a hustler.
Jayz got tired of splitting that money up and realized he didn't need Dame anymore
I personally didn’t think it was about money, more about Dame’s shallow ego. Jay and Dame can’t be in the same room, I am broke compare to Jay and wouldn’t want Dame around me.
@eetv7840 Dame cool but I feel like me and him would bump heads too often to be friends or business partners. Personally I would do something that would jeopardize my freedom if he talked me down like did to Kevin Lyles and others. I seen people here in the D get smoked for less
@@elbowgang9715 100% life sentence pending.
Period
That wasn't it it was nobody wanted to deal with Dame in cooperate world
Dame wasn't supposed to eat off hov forever
He's still trying to. Just on a negative tip.
As long as he owns a % of Reasonable Doubt he will
Its not so much eating off of someone it's working with someone. Dame cant do it. In his mind he's everyone's boss.
But the White Man Did
Well said.
Jay has been on his business grind since the 80s, and just like his boy Biggie, he took hip hop to new levels.
How you know he been grinding since the 80s do you know him🤷
“I’m focused man, tell stoute to holla at me man”
Yes ya jigga man be ballin…
lol alotta ppl had NO clue what bro was sayin right there.
Great too see Jayz story being explained by Steve. Jay has contributed to the music medium on so many levels, its uncanny. Thank you for this interview!
Yoooo. I was not expecting this from club shay shay. So dope!
Jay is considered a wise man because he never gave into the tactics that dame was into. Great episode!
You will have a boss till the end of time. Some people aren't built to boss up.
Curious to know what tactics those were..
@@MarcusLeonard307doing whatever & losing your morals for money
Jay is considered a wiseman because he is a billionaire. Dame isn't considered a wiseman because he appears to be a bitter man that clearly stands on principle and ''lost out on a bag.'' There is a saying that ''not all money is good money.'' These two men are very different. Jay clearly snaked Dame and regardless to ''how big or small Dame's ego is'' or how ''he talks to people'' Jay-Z knows that he owes his old friend an apology. Steve is choosing his words wisely to explain the situation, and trying to chop it up to ''It's just business'' mindset, but there still should be a level of integrity in a person, business or not. When I hear Dame speak, I don't hear someone that believes in ceilings. I guarantee you that Dame taught Jay-Z everything he knows about business, and Jay crossed Dame out of deals, and this is why Dame is upset.... it became about power and greed.
Nobody snaked Dame. Dame's ego and tactics along with not wanting to evolve cost Dame
Many will record history showing that Jayz is the greatest.
Jayz has contributed just like Biggie to the culture and artist like these are considered GOATs 🐐 for a reason. Thank you.
Jay jas been consistently getting so much attention since he is a smart businessman like Biggie.
Jay's story is part of true American dream which continues inspire millions.
Yup self serving , gotta be outchea
Jay took the game to higher levels kust like what Biggie was doing over 30 years ago.
UNC pushing the culture forward. This is amazing. Dude killing it.
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U might want to build a bigger better higher barrel for Unc because the crabs are out to drag him into the barrel if possible 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
Yeah he's pushing the culture forward
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What culture? Lol
Jay is credited for being a smart man and a good man for changing his life after all these years growing up in Brooklyn, Ny like the late Biggie Smalls.
Jayz has made an indelible mark to hip hop and to the culture.
One thing you can agree, Jayz definitely has done a lot of great things, and he has allowed hip hop grow into a larger medium since he has been in his position. BIGGIE would be proud of him as well.
Amazing to hear Jay's story by dame, thank you!
Thank you for telling the true story behind the breakup
He didn’t say exactly what broke Roc-A-Fella Records up but I’ll tell y’all the straw that broke the camel’s back. The Armsdale Vodka deal that Dame and Big Burk didn’t include Jay in is what broke them up. They were supposed to split everything 3 ways but left Jay out of that deal and when Jay found out he was decided to break away from them. Dame felt away bcuz Jay was getting money for writing for other artists (Dr Dre) and Dame wasn’t getting none of that publishing money so it was all kind of a misunderstanding with ego mixed in
You make a lot of sense
That’s why Dame slapped tf out him being a chatty patty 😂
Dame paid for that also!!!!!!
Right now he is given up so much information and he don’t even realize it🤣🤣🤣
@@chardin1900 explain?
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Diddy bust his head too! Lol
Now, this is cool. The car interview!!! Awesome
Man’s using every trick in the book and it’s working lol
They’re driving slow as s***
@@dwaynestokes9518they actually not plus they in NYC
Taxstone started this
Finally, someone said it.
We gotta stop using Hov as a scapegoat to Dame failing in business.
That’s unfair to JayZ and we just have to admit that Dame Dash is not a great businessman.
facts
Jay Z seen the big picture Dame seen the crayon book
Jay become more business focus and driven which is why he basically rise to the top like cake mix and Biggie.
Thank you for posting this interview. Jay is a businessman.
FINALLY, someone sharing a side of the story we didn’t know about. I’ve heard Dame’s side for decades without hearing from anyone else that was around. Jay Z pays Dame no mind and never speaks on things that happened over 20 years ago (I can’t say I blame him).
8:06 I was impressed at that question. Shannon out here really doing his homework in journalism asking the right questions
Interview while the car driving is first class genius, has a different feel
Yeah but It's been done quite a few times already.... I've even seen it in a yellow taxi in NYC.
Why is Steve stoute talking to a tight end
It was an entire game show in a car based in NY not too long ago this is nothing new
Jayz actually helped to change the laws to help people get a second chance in life.
Some people don’t see it . And just wait and see cuz he has something big for his community in the near future
That man don’t have nothing for us😂 stop praising these celebrities
I can’t wait to hear Dame’s rebuttal to Steve about this story! Should be interesting! Updated News flash! Dame Dash has already responded on his instagram page
Two sides to every story
Dame dash will respond soon
He responded already... told SS to basically stop speakin on other men biz... thus the reason DD slapped him not too long ago ...called him a culture vulture # 🤭
Yeah he gone respond like a lil bit like he has been doing for years!
his rebuttal will disappear into the ether without notice
Great point. Also Jay is where he at because he was thinking like Biggie and becoming a conglomerate.
These interview drops outta nowhere is LEGIT. The range of guests is just insane. Unc gonna eclipse Rogan.
He has to get some Asian and Hispanics on here first then he will have the entire ethnic audience
@@RedForemanhe doesn't have to do that at all. Get your 🤡 azz on somewhere
He already has
Unc's interview range is in the "urban" section.
Joe Rogan interviews politicians, astronomers, spies, etc.
He has a long way to go but it can DEFINITELY happen
The way Dame is on other shows is exactly how SS is explaining it. Dame’s narcissism was his downfall and he still lacks that self awareness to this day. We all know people like this, Dame’s a famous example of those people.
Club Shay Shay dropping reality bombs on a daily basis
Absolutely!
Reality? He hasn't touched on inner city struggles yet!
Right!
Unc. Is official & putting in work. People don't understand what our culture needs and they are along for the ride! Community Work vs Talk. Great work Unc. FBA 🇺🇸✊🏾. B1
His guests are. Not him
Stoute said what we all knew: Dame blew the bag. Dame is now regretting his perpetual petulance and dissing Jay every 5 minutes. He burned bridges when he didn't realize Jay was a Hustler and kept his future moves in silence
So making deals for the company which you have a partner with behind his back is being a hustler no that’s a snake because if there wasn’t for Dame, there would be no j.
@@MagicEmpireTVdame brought Camron to label behind jay back so from there anything goes
@@MagicEmpireTVthat’s false. Jay was the foundation for everything. Yeah in the beginning Dame did a lot of the grunt work but once they became famous and successful Dame became redundant.
Dame didn’t blow the bag Jay Z used him til he couldn’t use him no more & moved on like he did countless ppl but yall blind to it bc yall think money over everything right lol
@@Ayyeeeooo Jay can’t use a dude that never accomplished anything for himself. It doesn’t make sense. What businesses did Dame build before Jay? What successful artists did he put on before Jay? All Dame did was bring street money to the table along with Jay and Biggs. Hov’s talent and drive is what made everything happen.
Jay and Dame whole beef is/was about Aaliyah. They’ll never admit it but it’s clear as day. That’s dame has so much animosity towards him
Oh man, this was fantastic. Can't wait to listen to the full interview. Unc you are killing it.
Who else saw the Toy's R Us in the background...i thought those were extinct 😂
Love the way he spoke about Nas
He only said what everyone who's really emersed in the culture already knew to be true, those who see the yoke and not just the white or the shell.
Club Shay Shay has the podcast game on lock right now 🔥
Biggie Jayz and Nas is still the holy trinity
In New York😅
I really hope we get a Lauryn Hill interview outta this
She'll probably be late⌛️💀
YESSSSSS
I NEED IT!!
😂😂😂 she definitely will! I will never wait for her to show up again!@@o.gparamount3099
She don’t like interviews
She can tell the truth, Steve has credits on "Miseducation", and he wasn't in the studio half the time. He's as big a thief as Puffy.
Glad to hear this story. Jay become bigger because he had a better business mindset like Biggie. Great show shay !
Biggie was still living at his mom’s apt in Brooklyn when he died, what are you talking about?
@@damienwyche2105 Biggie lived in NJ, in his own crib. lol
@@dgogablic7992 lol, riiiiiiiiight. So his mother lied then, huh
Like Biggie😂😂 come on now, what are you on about😅 What good business did Biggie do?
@@damienwyche2105😂😂😂 you a hater
Jay was one of the many powerful driving forces behind the scene creating jobs and opportunities for the youth to excel.
NAS IS THE REAL KING OF 90s NY. (My opinion Please Respect it)
Nope Jay the king
@tony4534 Nope Is the Nas King Ask Jay Z even he will tell you its Nas
Jayz triumphed over his competition because he was thinking on a higher level for the culture and as an icon like Biggie.
Dame’s downfall was how he treated ppl. Hov knew that wouldn’t last long and he wasn’t gonna be apart of Dame’s demise. Hov made the best decision of his life.
This is a great interview. I can hear Dame throwing a fit about Steve's statement.
Can Dame lose anymore hair follicle.
I lost my Job in 2023 and Started this TH-cam channel to move forward in life. Hope I will Make it and Wish me good luck brothers ❤️
Good luck my guy, all the best👍🏽
You will make it....all u had to do was star
God got you brother belive in yourself!
Good luck. May God bless you
Stay Blessed Fam 🙏🏿
For better or for worse, Steve Stoute is the guy that Dame Dash COULD'VE become; a guy from the streets who learned to navigate the boardroom.
Facts both educated and articulate except Dame has no self control
@@francisikwueme1688none and it’s a shame cause he’s very smart. Just in his own way
Why would dame want to become a worker? 😅
@brandonburns5365 TF are you talking about? You know Stoute owns companies separately with Nas and Jay Z right?
@@jayjuggrnaut dig deeper goofball he doesn't own them, just like jayz don't own any. You goofballs love to talk about business but know nothing about it.
Steve was spitting. Dame never grew up.
Exactly and that's why he's still talking about Rocafella 28 years later
Naw dame wasn't selling out like Jay z and dame treated them people how they treat us as minority
@deshaunsmith5520 That part, however, you got progress forward in life
@@deshaunsmith5520okay. Dame must make his Billie, he can but he doesn't believe it.b
@@deshaunsmith5520On sellout? How do you make your money? Are you working or you have your own business.
Jaybis a mastrr of his craft.
Thank you Shannon for the amazing interviews that you have been conducting lately
I like learning the stories of my era of music… Nas & Jay are my fav rap artists..salute to Mr Steve..
How does Shannon get these people to come on his show and just spill their guts?🤔
Because ppl like to gossip and the attention
Yup I’ve always said “you being liked will get you further than you being talented and or qualified”. When ppl don’t wanna be around you…they won’t 🤷🏽♀️
Dame thought corporate run like the streets. Dame thought he was the smartest man in the room. Dame was getting played on all ends
“Lauryn Hill is…Lauryn Hill.” 😂😂😂😂
Nas being the ONLY ONE who can get her is a magnificent feat. Says ALOT
Steve stout just gave them jay lyrics on Lost Ones a little more clarity for me.
‘Ninjas wasn’t playing they day role, so we parted ways like Ben and J.Lo.
I shoulda been did it but I been in a daze though
I put friends over business end of the day though
But when friends, business interests as dayglo'
Ain't nothin' left to say though
I guess we forgot what we came fo'
You been waiting to say that forever
@@vinnydeville4675 if that’s what you want to believe and it makes you feel a bit better about yourself, then I guess I did.
Anything of substance you want to add?
@@bptboy2 that post wasn’t of substance that’s why I cared to offer nothing. Seemed like a waste of typing
@@vinnydeville4675 yet you wasted your time typing out a reply anyway? That seems counter productive to the point you’re trying to make but whatever do you🤣🤣
It definitely was of substance and a great reference
Dame slapped you Steve...and in the mouth 🤣💀
People expected Jay to let Dame just leech off him forever and that’s insane
Jay-z’s best music was with Dame, when he separated Jay fell off.
That LV ROBE/Jacket/Coat is hard asab
I was about to say the same. That LV overcoat is tough.
If you think about, Jay created his own niche.
Truth is jayz coat tailed various artists, borrowed n stole their styles & songs & beats, many things- but u can’t take away his high IQ to take himself to the top .. genius level
@@theunpopulartruth7668nah it's only one jay
@@johnwest5008 *there's only one Jay
If you wanna call stealing bits and pieces of everyone else style creative then I guess.
Dame dash did
Yall dont like Dame's straight forward talk meanwhile Lior Cohen get to talk ish to yo face with no consequences haaaaa.
Even lior wasn't arrogant/obnoxious like dame
@@o.gparamount3099
Self assured and Confidence = arrogance let y'all tell it.
Jay is arrogant
Bigg was arrogant
Mike Jordan arrogant
Hebrew Israelites and Muslims arrogant...I'm all for it
@@o.gparamount3099😂💯👈🏿dame was going to hard!!!!! Not in a good way for business either.
@@chardin1900exactly 💯
Dame was basically Jay's big brother who made sure Jay got what he was supposed to, and when Jay got it he used a bunch of underhanded tactics to cut Dame & Biggs off. Jay is using those same underhanded tactics right now to get Dame's portion of Roc-a-fella Inc. which holds the masters to Reasonable Doubt. In my opinion Dame should own that third of Reasonable Doubt
Dame has it
@@morganhill2586 yeah but a judge ordered him to auction his shares off & just guess who’s going to scoop them up. It’s the same exact thing he did with Roc-A Fella LLC.
Little brother. Dame Dash is two years younger than Jay Z
@@BigWilt2000 what does age have to do with anything?
Your show gets better and better.
Dame going to be punching the air talking about his ceiling😂😂😂
Steve was right. Dame had a ego. U couldnt tell him nothing. Pride wil kill u.
Dame has always been super annoying.
I love how this interview was edited. It kept me interested the whole time.
That’s the best realest explanation I heard. Dame is too much of a hot head
Dame treated ppl as if he would never needem in the future
This sounds like the most accurate take about their fall out I’ve heard. Usually it’s always some other foolishness. He was immature and Hov was tryna get to the bags. That’s it.
Jay is the goat
It aint what you do, its how you do it. Jay-Z weaseled his way from Dame instead of just amicably parting ways.
Just like Dame weaseled Cam into rocafella without talking to Biggs or Jay and spending money left n right
@@sc84_ what ? That was a genius move imagine Cam not being on the Roc. If Jay n Biggs wasnt on board then they was buggin.
@@TheJudgeJuryExecutioner How is it genius to appoint people in a company without consulting your partners? Look where his arrogant genius moves got him. Crying all over youtube while Jay and Biggs still doing business together.
Jay was like Biggie if he would have survived.
Not even a lil bit
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
Christopher wanted to party too much.
Mos Def and Nas came out around the same time.
I’ll never understand why Nas isnt mentioned more … 👑
Mos Def actually came out around 1998. He was around but musically he came out in 98. Nas always been in the king of NY conversations along with Jay, Big, Busta, Lox and others since the 90s. Mos is not in the conversation. Him and Nas are different from each other.
Off topic put on y’all seatbelts!!!