Ruckus In The Casino - Gamble So You Can Gamble
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- The latest monetization attempt by WG is so scummy it makes Casino's blush. Gamble on loot boxes so you can get a token you can use to gamble on other loot boxes. How are mobile games more ethical than this?
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The double lootbox approach is certainly a new one, let's see how it works out for them.
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A new low.
I think that may be worth only if you have cool reword first ... but that is 100% impossible ... I think players should make class act/plea to EU to just regulate that crap !!!
What as us gamers can do to have this Bullshit shenanigans stop from WG and not happen in future? Bitching about it on Twitch for the past few years isn't really working out here now!!!
you also said you would like to give something away. most of your viewers play games you could give away gaming equipment like mouse pads mice headset controller stuff like that
too big money to not cheat.
Interestingly, even when selling virtual items, they still have to show you the middle finger.
do you remember the beginnings when they handed out ships left and right? now is harvest time.
The most amusing part of gamba in gaming is that in a casino you're doing it for a chance that the casino has to pay you, in gaming you're doing it do decide how much you'll have to ultimately pay the house.
yeah it really is just super predatory and scummy. at least in actual casinos in theory the player can win something and walk away being up but not here.
hey there are people who pay for it. Despite it being clearly a scam
The moment most of us saw this in the armoury, I think we all knew inside that it was just another money grabbing ploy...
is there even any other kind of ploy wargaming uses?
@@jussi8111 ploys that give you anger, cancer, bankruptcy (oh wait we already said that)...
Kinda reminds me of the creepshow segment where the woman won but lost of her fingers doing so....
Didn't think my favourite Kiara clipper would be here
People shouldn't ever expect anything else from WG.... if you did, you're just stupid
They must have a to-do list which includes "Surpassing last year's worst dumpster fire in WoWs"
lmaoo
Gotta do something to make people forget the CV rework... and submarines... and super ships... and the Puerto Rico Dockyard... and...
Yes in most U.S states it's also illegal to falsify a sale if the item was never sold at the original price. But I imagine it would take the federal government to step in, similarly to Belgium's.
As a Belgian I can confirm this Ruckus event is not available at all. But saying that my country shows the good example is a bit naive because the one and only reason for the lootbox ban is that our national lottery monopolizes all the gambling.
@@stefaanlambrecht9490 Is that the actual reason? Man, I was almost proud of our country...
WG is really messing up with this "Sale" stuff, not only is it Illegal in EU I'm fairly sure it falls into price gouging laws in the US and is Illegal here too.
I’m still wondering if one of these days WG is going to face the wrath of US Court will all of the stuff they’ve pulled. It’s certainly quite a track record.
@@ScallywagBeowulf what wrath in a US court? Lol. The US is a corpratocracy, teh courts will ways side with a business.
@@ScallywagBeowulf The way things are going in world afairs just because they moved to where ever , they should be sued In court, Just because It states I'm 18 to buy too many kids are buying when they should not and are not 18 and clicking on this gambling game ,and can easy be proven In court.Me and thousands would sue because they change your ships after you buy them like Thunderer, Massachusetts just to name a few after years In game. , but now Its stated on everything you buy now. Now they change ships just to make there newest ships look better.And nothing random about drop rates all a bunch of bullshit, even in game, even shell dispersion from your ships against other ships are different Is changed. Reply WG will will be better at gambling than ever before. Every year this games does this crap give you less for your money , and you stupid people go ahead and buy even now. WG wants you to spend money on xp, free xp, credits, elite commander xp just a money sink. That does nothing for you really and don't get you any ships, with 230 dollars you could buy a three to six ships.A premium account you do need when you start the grind the grind is a real painfull and long with out it. , But you do not need It when you have almost all ships in port.
Yeah be realistic, they have a small chance to get stung through EU, US won’t do shit so long as they give money
I think they meant -20% in relation to 1 token for 250 dubs.
This is one of those videos which gets a Thumbs Up from me with absolutely no criticism. *VERY INFORMATIVE,* TYVM.
If my money is not good enough to buy a ship in an online game straight up, that game is clearly too prestigious for my money.
I started getting into making model kits. After buying all the equipment for building a model, it's at the point where buying a model ship irl, painting, and glueing it together is many times cheaper than acquiring the ship in the game, with a lot less headache. I don't have to wait 5 years for them to offer to sell that ship again or gamble for it. Plus I get something physical to own.
Building something yourself give you a sense of accompishment too. Buying loot boxes just mounts disappointment and depression with every click.
@@AdamtheRed- Agreed.
what do you use for your glue? super glue? or do you use that stuff that bonds the plastic on a molecular level, or some wizardry like that?
@@Officer_Boat depends on the situation. If at all possible, I'll try to stick with normal drying model cement because it's easier to clean up, allows more mistakes, can bond to many types of materials, and is possible to remove with the right dissolving solution.
If I'm having problems getting the normal cement to hold without using tons of it and the pieces I'm trying to bind are the same material (plastic X plastic), I'll bust out the liquid cement that you mentioned, but it's drawbacks are that it fuses the plastic, so I have to make sure whatever I use it on is held securely and RIGHT where I want it because there is no going back. Also if you use too much of it and don't clean it up fast, it will dissolve the plastic it drips to and you will lose details on the model and be left with an ugly melted mark.
If liquid binding cement is the big guns, super glue is one too, because that's what you'd use if you want to be able to almost drop your kit on the ground and have the model hold together. Once it's dry, it's THERE unless you use a dissolving solution for the glue. Try to take it apart any other way and you'll break your model before you break the glue.
Sounds like a lot of info, but it's just what I got a feel for as I started messing around with building models. There is no correct binding agent; you build and paint your model how you want it.
@@b-spiral8314 oh man, it's been so long since i've built models. i remember using the cement, but i ALWAYS used way too much and it's just a sloppy mess. dried glue all over the place.
honestly, i have forgotten there was a difference between the modeling cement and super glue. i've been wanting to get back into it, but haven't pulled the trigger just yet. i really want to find a nice, yet affordable, air brush and give that a go since i've always left my models naked, plastic gray.
I was actually considering coming back to WoWs. Thanks, WG, for reminding us all that you are still the same greedy, lootbox-obsessed company that you were back in 2021.
And thanks for calling them out, Flamu. I really appreciate it.
Something not mentioned, but that is indicative of how scummy this is, is that they only provide enough tokens for direct purchase to even get one of the best bundles. If you want to get one of the bundles with the chance for a Tier IX ship you have to gamble for the remaining 10 Tokens to make up the cost of that bundle since you only get 90 tokens via direct purchase.
they said "We will reduce the gambling things in our game"
now in 2022
WG : *Pour the greatest RNG bundles in the game XD
indeed where was that article hmm
Is it now that I mention that WG lowered the PEGI rating back down to 7 ? 🙄
so much for those changes WG talked so much about last year, still just as money hungry as ever and shameless about it
nothin speshul typical ex wanna change but remains shit
I find the token system broken anyway.
It says you have a maximum of 300 Storekeepers Packages.
18 of those contain 30 tokens, so that's 18 * 30 =540 Tokens.
A further 60 contain 10 tokens, so that's 60 * 10 = 600 Tokens.
All remaining bundles contain 1 token, so that's 300-18-60= 222 Tokens.
Now then the premium shop token bundles give you 65 + 25 = 90 Tokens.
So in total you get 540 + 600 + 222 + 90 = 1452 Tokens.
In short, they don't even give you nearly enough tokens to actually get all the ships, let alone everything.
and from that they gain millions
@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 It disgusting behavior and the only honest and decent cause would be for them to give back everybody‘s money
@@limeddasch382 nope the best way is to not spend money at all
Just disgusting event dreamt up by the marketing department. I told my kids that that I would pay for their university tuition. Unless they went into marketing, in that case I would kick them out of the house.
No no, if they're marketing stuff for wargaming, disown them formally.
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 no, this is why the gullotine was invented.
The moment i noticed Flamu have 404 days of premium made me think there is error 404 in the gambling event where you get nothing
The early access ship lines started on Legends.
Since it was starting from bare bones they had a shit ton of lines to hold behind loot boxes.
What’s even more disgusting is while this casino event is going on they are also selling the black early but it costs like 40k dubs . Talk about having 2 cash grabs running at the same time
you cannot buy the tokens in Canada at all I just checked. WOW, making it even worse. I also agree with you @Flamu, Warthunder does need to redesign their game to make the game a bit easier to play like World of Warships. Otherwise, this is the only game out there in this genre.
WT naval is completely neglected by the devs and when they do touch it they only add a new flagship to advertise about. IMO, WT naval is only there so they can claim they have famous ships in game and that a naval game mode exists, it's practically unplayable at the minute and the grind is horrendous. The differences are deliberate though, all the smaller naval combat games are arcade-y just like WoWS, WT naval is more "realistic" to try and pick up the demographic of people who don't want an arcade game. Despite this there are both "Arcade" and "Realistic" modes but the differences are pretty negligible. I wouldn't recommend WoWS nor WT naval but I'd say WT naval is better in terms of quality of life, its just harder to pick up and the grind is terrible
Honestly, war thunder naval is getting really good. The aiming’s better, they started adding a bunch of new ships (battleships,..), you can now startoff directly from destroyers (tho it stills only gets fun once you get to the late destroyers)
Really? I'd have to check it out again. But is there still a player shortage?
@@doublepower5937 idk. Most of the time i get in games almost instantly, but occasionally it takes a few minutes
It's quite compressed and can be difficult to get into, but it is somewhat getting some lift off the ground?
The really sad part was when I saw this for myself, I barely reacted. No outrage, no condemnation for this blatant cash crab.
Just silent acceptance of yet another level of "monetisation".
I thought you could buy the 300 for 230 dollars, and each stage had ten tokens i miss read it ,I was all on board until my brother set me strait. Piece of #$%^ WG.
I think most of the top players(who have been playing a long time) just ignore most of the seasonal stuff WG puts out.
I was the same as you, I didn't even bother checking out this armory tab when i saw it.
I did not understand why this "event" was not announced beforehand. And I understood why. This has to be the scummiest of all the events made by WG as of now... These people have lost their minds.
A casino that also hides the prices you can win.
Unless you go to an external site to actually check which ships you can win, you have no clue that the pool is very limited to begin with.
World of casinos and it has a build in minigame where ships fight and go pew pew.
I think some crackhead at wg saw 2-step identity comfirmation on bank account logging screen and thought: „hmm maybe i could do something similar and make even more money on gambling in our store”
I got 2 Diablo Immortal ads while watching this. Maybe the algorithm does have a sense of humor.
Wargaming be like: "Hey if you tired of bad aiming, bad matchmaking, bad team, we got a casino that you can throw your money for a ship" 😂
wc war casino
The interesting part is that Wargaming deliberately concealed the ships available in the tier 9 crates. That information was not included anywhere in the "Rukus" pages in the armory during the first few days, not even a link. It wasn't until several days after the "Ruckus" event launched that WG released the "news" announcement that included the information that the tier 9 ship crates only included 6 ship already available for in game resources, and excluded all other tier 9 ships, including all of the rare or highly desirable tier 9 premium ships. There is still no link to the crate contents in the Ruckus armory page for the 100 token crates, the link only appears on the 30 token and 10 token crate pages. Just Wargaming being Wargaming, lying and deceiving the players at every turn.
My God, what a horrendous rip-off! Much worse than was immediately obvious.
You can literally buy any three T9 premiums for the price of getting a chance to gamble for a random T9 (and possibly not getting it)
Sure put way more thoughts into the gambling than in the actual mechanics of the game.
Oh and the fake discount thing is illegal in the EU btw.
This is just...beautiful. You have to pay money to buy the tokens to take your chances. You'd think with all the ruckus made last year when WG was doing this, that they'd stay away from this. But I think WG knows the Truth. Though the player base has made/is making a big stink about this sort of thing, the company hasn't been losing money on its various loot boxes.
Sounds like a communication problem honestly…surely.
"We failed to communicate within our departments that we should have been reasonable and fair towards our playerbase"
"We failed to communicate within our departments that we should have been reasonable and fair towards our playerbase"
Whats dumb is even if you super whale and buy all the bundles to give you the gambling tokens, you only get less then half of the possible super bundles so you cant even garuntee youd get the one you want. Super scummy scam
super ultra scummy uber gamble scam
this video should be #1 trending in gaming just so it pulls the wool off the eyes of all gamers to realize our wallets are being raped by major gaming devs who add in game gambling mechanics to games.
if we got 10$ for every time WG made scums we gonna have many elon musks
Can't wait for those people who will some how find a way to defend this, and then we wait for WG to make something much worse.
there was a misscommunication etc blah blah
@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 "We failed to properly communicate, we are sorry. We will improve our communication and texts in the next gambling event with the feedback you have provided us."
This whole ruckus thing is nothing more than a massive "I heard you like gambling, so..." -meme.
It really is a shame Wargaming has no real competition for the niche games they specialize in
Belgium 🇧🇪 is amazing, huge respect.
Lol, the only reason this is banned in belgium is because the national lottery has a Monopoly on gambling
I logged into this game after a 2 year break yesterday. I felt like 90% of the buttons now lead to buying something with doubloons. Ridiculous. It's now a gambling game first featuring boats. This game would now be right at home in any casino near the poker/slot machines.
Flamu: "but is that legal sir?" WG: "I will make it legal"
'Yo, I heard you like gambling, so I put some gambling in your gambling'
@Flamu not sure if this has been mentioned before, but in addition to the stuff you told about casinos: they are legally bound to actually inform their customers about their chances of winning anything in a detail and also are bound to inform the customers to inform them about compulsive gambling and similar health issues.
I got a tier 9 container as a welcome back gift some weeks ago...it had gronningen in it.
This is straight up Saturday morning cartoon level evil at this point.
"You're getting ads? You know, you guys should really be subscribing to your favorite streamer." 🤣🤣🤣
I remember when WoWs had a fair way of obtaining money, with premium, signals cammo and ships sold directly. And they were not needed to perform well in the game, you were showered with free stuff.
I would be perfectly ok with an alternative ships game being a pay to play, plus DLC content as the game progresses over time. With zero micro-pay of course.
Looks like from the depths and ultimate admiral are your only real choices then as far as I’m aware :/
I'm early, let's make a joke:
Whoregaming is a well respected company for it's transparency and care for the playerbase.
29:09 I can assure that even mobile gacha games have CLEAR and STRAIGHTFOWARD rates of what are you gambling.
Most of them also give you the path of the F2P Player... for instance, in Girls Frontline you can go ALL THE WAY as F2P and still have access to most characters on the game.
ladies and gentlemen we present to you META GAMBLING!
Thanks for the update, Flamu. Scummy tactics indeed.
Grats on 6 years Flamu!
I have stopped playing 2 years ago, but the scammy ways of WG still intrigue me from time to time.
Dont care didnt ask
@@KalinoursEU But you get it for free anyway :-) No need to tank me.
Gonna be honest with ya.... I stopped playing for over 12 months, until Submarines. And I know, they aren't perfect and they're broken besides, but at least WG addressed something I actually wanted. But yeah; the consequences are now other players hate on the crazies like me rather than focusing on WG's messed up ideas of Balance, let alone economics, let alone the scummy scams.
@@jamespfp You're part of the problem if you 'wanted' submarines in the game.
Go away.
After the PR shitshow, this company hasnt seen a penny from me
Someone at wargaming snorted some really outdated paracetamol.
I've seen a lot of monetization in video games but this probably bites the cake for me. They're not even trying to hide it anymore
I can see the IX container as the 1st one. Since I could accidentally get a Z-44 this holds no interest whatsoever.
The only time i spend money here is to get the Anime collabs. Like I just did as soon as the AL bundles came out i've bought the ones i need to complete my collection. I buy these because I want more of these collabs in the future. If you where to giveaway something from WoWs nowdays I would just give away the AL skin, ships, commanders for your anniversary. Congrats on that btw.
I've been playing this game since beta and it's sad to see the monetization schem is going in this direction, wich is why I don't buy anything else than Anime collabs these days from WG.
Keep up with these entertaining videos and good luck with keeping the sanity through these times in WoWs.
my favorite is the camo, its literally cartographic, which theyve handed out for free in the recent past with a new name
The "Extended Car Warranties" are more legitimate than Wargamings schemes.
7:26 WG already admitted to that being illegal under EU law and many other places and claimed it under 'mistranslation' a few years back if anyone can remember the details
That incredible QQ about adds, it's almost like there isn't a way to get rid of them all together.
as you said this is illegal in Finland as well as probably most of the EU. Having said that is there a place we can report this to? is there anything we can do about this? I'm done with WG's bullshit
Yes, but it's not going to do anything because WG its foreign company.
@@Vanha21 The game could get banned from the EU completely. But then the gambling would have to be seriously illegal
WG is one bad pitch meeting away from an in game pyramid scheme.
The talking moose from The Simpsons suddenly sounds reasonable.
The one who will buy the bundle is one who doesn't pass "Statistic and Probability" in his/her class.
The moment I see the probabilities, I can even roughly calculated thr chance that the chance to get T9 container is less than 0.1%.
We will see how WG handles this one I wish our goverment would do something about this. Gambling In this game Is really bad and really no way from keeping teens from doing It...
In Poland u can make "discount" lets say -10%, but when u were in that shop like day earlier, the price would be lower than discount price
*large nosed man rubbing hands together*
Comparing this to Diablo Immortal is apt. WG is seeing what Activision Blizzard are doing, and getting away with, in that game and they are feeling emboldened by it. We are going to see more and more of these predatory tactics to absolutely fleece their install base.
Uninstalled my WeeGee games. Probably about to do the same with War Thunder for the poor balancing and just lack of enjoyment in the game
Well if we analyze it logically, there MUST be a reason for WG to keep doing this.
Players CLEARLY buy these crates and like to gamble money, and it’s their (stupid) choice. There is no other explanation. I already have 70-80% of tech tree ship lines unlocked, I have many great premium ships including steel and coal ships. I have more ships I can realistically play. I’m waiting for my premium days to finish and have stopped buying doubloons and premium 1 year ago.
The game is great as it is free to play for me, no need to spend any more in it ;)
when i first saw it, i thought that there would be some free way to get the tokens, which would have been FANTASTIC and redeemed this... what they've done is ludicrous.
Maybe the epic 20% discount is limitied to 1 pruchase and you can buy unlimited ones for the full price?
Yes, it is. Not rooting for WG as I stopped playing prior to CV rework, but this video is a complete miss.
Imagine they rigg the loots in order to get what you wanted in the very last box or a fail and they launch a 2nd event weeks later.
"you always get something random".... I get that every day in that game :o without paying for it
Wargambling is at it again!
Tell me you're a gold digger without telling me you're a gold digger, Wargaming. (Sees the Ruckus event). Confirmed.
So i have the 360 days premium in my first drop and can buy only 90 out of the needed 100 depot tokens directly? Even with a "maybe" jackpot on the first box iam still forced into gambling. Wonder why its only 90. Pure coincidence, right?
35:39 I came back to this game with the same idea, I'm waiting for the credit system cammo rework before I pass judgement.
Expected value of one token is almost 55 dubloons, so the price for full 32 rolls would be over over 175000 dubloons. WTF.
And it it doesnt guarantee the possibility of getting either a premium year or a tier ix, as maximum you can buy only 1362/3200 needed.
Wow, this is extra scummy
And all this for a ship that's going to end up available for coal?
Well to be fair, this is quite a ruckus.
I can't help but note that the option to just buy the tokens is hidden all the way at the bottom of the page.
The amount of garbage crates you’d have to buy to get 100 tokens is astronomical.
This is a new level of scumbag behaviour from WG, the amount of gambling involved to sink a hell of a lot of cash into and you can't even get enough tokens to get all the bundles, shocking absolutely shocking.
I've had the argument about false discounts with WG before. Illegal in Aus also.
only point to take this - if you has grand prize in first box and you know that you take.
So... you gamble to get tokens, then you gamble to get t9 prem container, then you gamble to get a t9 ship you want. gambling cubed, didnt think WG had it in em but here we are.
Is there a limit to how many tokens you can buy with credits?
*Diablo Immortal releases with the one of the most disgusting Pay2Win Schemes ever.*
Gamer: "At least it can't get any worse...."
WG: *hold my beer*
So how are these offers given to residents to Belgium? Are they just ass out on the rewards for these kind of things?
Sad to see the game going this direction...
The steam gift cards thing is a great idea Flamu honestly
Plus Steam always has really good seasonal sales.
Just use your 25% dub coupon and buy the premium ship you want straight away and for a cheaper price.
Now that WG now gives you a chance to buy unlimited tokens , you will need 1,400 more, 20 times 18,00 dollars, will cost you 360,00 dollars more and add the first 230 dollars you spent for a grand total of just 600 dollars to get all containers unlocked, In signals for a special occasion only.
The sad part is the player base has degenerated to the point that WG knows there are thousands of morons that will whale this and not blink an eye.
I agree, steam keys sounds like a great idea.
At this moment game has almost the same activities in Russia and the rest world. So, for now there’s now difference between WG and Lesta.
There's a way to level up the WG scam stockpile: when all things done according to system of how you buy these stocks, image WG will flip your screen and show you 3 crates, which you have to choose one and it might not be the prize you were gambling for. 😂😂😂😂
Welcome in the WG Universum where you can make money out of shit, they fullfilling the dreams of medieval alchemists
already ran into a few people who dropped the 50k+ dubs to get all the bundles to only be able to get half of the other bundles
so if i set my VPN to Belgium..... i won't get bombarded by this stupid tab???