Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 in E-flat major, op. 55, "Eroica"

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  • I. Allegro con brio [0:00]
    II. Marcia funebre. Adagio assai [14:48]
    III. Scherzo. Allegro vivace [31:59]
    IV. Finale. Allegro molto [37:47]
    Berliner Philharmoniker
    Herbert von Karajan
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  • @NicholasBlackfire
    @NicholasBlackfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    22:05 - the reason, why I am alive.
    I remember the February 2020, when I had the worst nightmare, which lead me to complete sadness and early lockdown. After the early lockdown - suicidal thoughts. I didn't knew what to do next, because I was living in constant fear and unawareness.
    I just turned 19, and I could lose my freedom. But that didn't happen. Fortunately.
    Actually, it al began at the end of January, on my 19th birthday. One of the friends, who was there gave me the 2007 CD with that amazing symphony. It was a 1962 recording with Berliner Philharmoniker. At first, I thought that it would be on my shelves, and it would not be played, but then February begins. That brought me to the beginning of this scariest nightmare of all time. At first, I wasn't aware what to do and how, but at some point, I noticed that CD on my work table. When I put that CD in my Compact Disc Player, I started to feel more confident. And when "Adagio Assai" began to bang in my ears, I felt that kind of power, that was in all Beethoven symphonies.
    If I had a weaker heart and didn't have a goal in life, that suicide would have been happened. But I am grateful to Mr. Karajan for saving my life in times that awful. God only knows, what would have happened after the suicide.
    Now it's a middle of July, and I am OK. I am waiting for this vinyl to arrive and I would continue listening to this masterpiece over and over. Thank you for your patience.
    UPD: 17/12/2020. Today is Beethoven’s 250th birthday. I feel the best now. I feel incredible. Cause I have nothing to worry about. Vinyl records are at home, my exam session is almost over, but I still spin those records, which I have on my shelves and feel at the ultimate level of confidence in myself. Happy New Year!

    • @ludwigvanunited6114
      @ludwigvanunited6114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Welcome to the world of Beethoven. He saves us all. We are all indebted to him. He will take you from the abyss and raise to the ultimate heights that humans can ever achieve. You are blessed that you have discovered Beethoven
      I discovered him around your age, and it is by far one of the most important moments of my life. I recommend Romain Rolland's book on Beethoven. You are a lucky man my friend, we all are...He is the endless spring of greatness, majesty, and life, the miracle embodied.

    • @NicholasBlackfire
      @NicholasBlackfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LudwigvanUnited that’s true. Now the vinyl records are on my shelves, and when I feel sad I listen to them regularly.
      It’s the middle of September, and in 2 weeks I will be working on my diploma. I know, that it will be OK, and I will listen to his other symphonies to feel much better. :)

    • @EminAnimE1
      @EminAnimE1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey, that comment is very interesting because it seems to be something that happens with classical music. It reaches your deepest emotions and can quite literally save you from death. I highly recommend a composer called Gustav Mahler. His symphonies are very long but very very rewarding. If you don't wanna listen to the full symphonies I recommend Symphony No. 2 last movement, Symphony No. 3 last movement, Symphony No. 5 fourth movement, Symphony No. 9 first and last movement. These are extremely emotional and bittersweet. They helped me tremendously.

  • @ludwig4713
    @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    and this is why:
    Let's see how many climaxes does the SECOND MOVEMENT ALONE provide us, and why it is by far the greatest music EVER written:
    14:48 - The deep strings opening up the second movement, unparalleled beginning for a second movement; but then:
    20:00 to 20:25
    21:25
    22:04 - false dawn and then,
    bang, the greatest moment of musical history: 22:33 ...building up to 23:47 and there, it begins, and so sit back and ENJOY wow...but,
    we are not done of course, since this is Ludwig van, and he won't be Ludwig van without MULTIPLE climaxes - wait, still: HOW ON EARTH DID HE PULL OFF 23:16 as yet ANOTHER CLIMAX MOMENT? and, still, 23:27 ... almighty have mercy on us...
    more and more: false dawn: 25:01 ...
    only to be followed by another climax: 25:20 merciless rise into the greatest heights of a human soul only to bring it into the most unimaginable and godly tune at 26:00 that continues with a theme that sounds like tears coming down from a human soul at 26:17 ... wow, Ludwig, all of humanity indebted to you for these greatest minutes of music.
    26:48 ... are you kidding me?? are you kidding me??
    27:36 ...
    27:52 ...
    28:28 the symphony is exploding in tears
    and how does it end this movement, wow: 28:55 ...can it be any gentler? can it be more emotional? yes, at 28:48
    And we wonder why Ludwig van is the GREATEST and DEEPEST and MOST PERSONAL and PRIVATE
    THEN, 30:56 , the ending, wow. I LOVE LUDWIG VAN.
    So you see how many climaxes?? How many suprahuman themes? In fact, no need to point out where in the second movement you should listen, but just listen to it all....

  • @carlopedulla874
    @carlopedulla874 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The best in the world... great Beethoven!! And Karajan!

  • @Dive2Dreams
    @Dive2Dreams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A music can change one's mind, wife, and life. In my case.

  • @TheJamesalden
    @TheJamesalden 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    There is still nothing at all in this world quite like a Beethoven symphony, and possibly more so than this one..THANK YOU!!!...

    • @ludwig4713
      @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the second movement is the greatest piece of musical composition of all time.

    • @ludwig4713
      @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and this is why:
      Let's see how many climaxes does the SECOND MOVEMENT ALONE provide us, and why it is by far the greatest music EVER written:
      14:48 - The deep strings opening up the second movement, unparalleled beginning for a second movement; but then:
      20:00 to 20:25
      21:25
      22:04 - false dawn and then,
      bang, the greatest moment of musical history: 22:33 ...building up to 23:47 and there, it begins, and so sit back and ENJOY wow...but,
      we are not done of course, since this is Ludwig van, and he won't be Ludwig van without MULTIPLE climaxes - wait, still: HOW ON EARTH DID HE PULL OFF 23:16 as yet ANOTHER CLIMAX MOMENT? and, still,
      more and more: false dawn: 25:01 ...
      only to be followed by another climax: 25:20 merciless rise into the greatest heights of a human soul only to bring it into the most unimaginable and godly tune at 26:00 that continues with a theme that sounds like tears coming down from a human soul at 26:17 ... wow, Ludwig, all of humanity indebted to you for these greatest minutes of music.
      26:48 ... are you kidding me?? are you kidding me??
      27:36 ...
      27:52 ...
      28:28 the symphony is exploding in tears
      and how does it end this movement, wow: 28:55 ...can it be any gentler? can it be more emotional? yes, at 28:48
      And we wonder why Ludwig van is the GREATEST and DEEPEST and MOST PERSONAL and PRIVATE
      THEN, 30:56 , the ending, wow. I LOVE LUDWIG VAN.
      So you see how many climaxes?? How many suprahuman themes? In fact, no need to point out where in the second movement you should listen, but just listen to it all....

    • @lionelthiebaud7081
      @lionelthiebaud7081 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Extrêmement bien pensé

  • @windy005
    @windy005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the BEST "EROICA" !

  • @foreverkarajanfan
    @foreverkarajanfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is simply the BEST "Eroica" ever recorded!!!

  • @akshaygowrishankar7440
    @akshaygowrishankar7440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Maestro conducts the works of a Maestro.

  • @agustigula4
    @agustigula4 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Historical & extraordinary stereo recording of Master Karajan!!! Thanks a lot for sharing this Musical Precious!

  • @stonefireice6058
    @stonefireice6058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a collection of Karajans cds, but today I stumbled on this set of all 9, 1963 DG at the resale store! Whoever bought the set never opened it. Their loss, my treasure for $7. Listening Karajan conducting at that time, brings me to believe, he was better, more sensitive, more agile, as conductor. No over- emphasizing, over-powering percussions. I guess, he didn’t believe he was God, yet. 😄

    • @lionelthiebaud7081
      @lionelthiebaud7081 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Très bien parlé bravo, surtout sur Dieu, il était encore malléable, plus les 20 dernières années

  • @johnvalentine4720
    @johnvalentine4720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always insist on my early morning helping of Beethoven be served up by Karajan - fortifies the soul, so to speak.

  • @montanamontana80
    @montanamontana80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ‎1-Allegro Con brio 00:01

    ‎1-Exposition:
    ‎1e Groupe thématique (Mi b majeur) zone du 1er sujet
    Les Thèmes (A-B-C)
    A1 violoncelles 00:01
    Ce thème, dont les 4 premières mesures constituent le Coeur du mouvement, présente des analogies avec ‎l’ouverture de Bastien et Bastienne, opéra composé par Mozart en 1768 à l’age de 12 ans.

    Episode rythmique - Cordes 00:28

    A1 Tutti 00:44
    A2 (a) Si b Majeur (Hautbois, clar., flûtes, violins) 00:55
    A2 (b) violins - 01:06
    A3 (a) l’allure de chevaux qui galoppent (cordes) 01:18
    A3 (b) 01:26

    ‎2e Groupe thématique (Si b Majeur) zone du 2e sujet
    B1 (a) bois, violins, flûte 01:40
    B1 (b) violins, clarinette 02:02
    Plus harmonique que mélodique, il apporte des harmonies de tendresse qui avaient été absentés ‎jusqu’ici.

    B2 2:13 violoncelles, violins
    B2 scandé 02:23
    Un épisode beaucoup plus vigoureux.

    B3 02:43 zone de conclusion
    Transition 02:57
    Des impressions fugitives très diverses: charme mélodique, invitation à la danse, vivacité, vigueur, douceur ‎apaisée.

    ‎2-Développement (1er Partie) travail thématique modulant sur des motifs issus de A1 et A2
    Transition (suite) 03:02
    A2 03:27
    A1 03:42 avec A3 03:52 - 04:07
    A2 04:35
    A2 Fugato 04:50

    EPISODE RYTHMIQUE 05:10 - 5:46
    Constitué d’accords puissants et dissonants quir substituent à nouveau un rythme binaire et ternaire. La ‎tension est alors a son maximum
    ‎3-Développement (2e Partie)
    C - Nouveau thème très mélodique en Mi mineur (Hautbois) 05:58
    A1 06:19
    C Mib mineur 6:46
    A1 07:08 - 07:34
    Retransition 07:50
    Cor (solo) 08:23

    Réexposition:
    ‎1e groupe thématique (Mi b majeur) zone du 1er sujet
    A1 Mi b majeur 8:29
    Cors 8:41
    Flutes 8:51
    Tutti 9:08
    A2 (a) Si b majeur 9:30
    A2 (b) 9:40
    A3 (a) 9:54
    A3 (b) 10:02

    ‎2e groupe thématique (Si b Majeur) zone du 2e sujet
    B1 (a) Mi b majeur 10:16
    B1 (b) 10:38
    B2 10:50
    B2 scandé 11:00
    B3 11:21 zone de conclusion
    Transition 11:36 - 11:49

    CODA
    Développement terminal
    A1 Re b majeur 11:41
    A1 Do majeur 12:00
    C Fa mineur 12:21
    C Transition 12:40
    Bribes de A1 - pédale de dominante 12:50

    CLIMAX:
    Gruppetto 13:16
    A1 Mi b majeur - Cors - avec arabesques A3 13:26
    C’est ensuite une admirable montée vers l’apotéose final (climax).

    A1 Trompettes - Fanfare finale 13:55 -
    La Fanfare finale qui exalte le triomphe du héros.
    ‎Finale 14:22 - 14:40 fin

  • @davidjaumot5332
    @davidjaumot5332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magnifica heroica,impresionante version sobre todo la marcha funebre

  • @leohabs642
    @leohabs642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible recording

  • @dikyfirmansyah8672
    @dikyfirmansyah8672 ปีที่แล้ว

    So wonderful..
    I very love to hear this Beautiful symphoni
    ❤❤❤👍

  • @brucewilliams8864
    @brucewilliams8864 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely wonderful! Thanks so much!

  • @noksu_krx1933
    @noksu_krx1933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Most Younger people just don't realize how amazing this type of music is.

    • @ethanpkaiser
      @ethanpkaiser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m 18 and I got all of Beethoven’s symphonies on my playlist and the works of many other composers. My college roommate does as well. There may not be a lot of us but we’re still around. :)

    • @XenophonSoulis
      @XenophonSoulis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethanpkaiser I do as well.

    • @ludwig4713
      @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the second movement is the greatest piece of musical composition of all time.

    • @NicholasBlackfire
      @NicholasBlackfire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am almost 20, and once his music literally saved my life and pulled it up to the ultimate heights and the highest level of confidence. When I started feeling better I ordered German LPs with symphonies 3 and 5, in this performance. By the way, they were pressed in February 1963, and they still sound amazing.
      Beethoven is the best composer of all time. Period.

    • @arpitatwal9791
      @arpitatwal9791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am 17 and know every bit of Beethoven. Been listening to him, Mozart, Wagner and many others. But you know what the greatest thing about Beethoven is, his music is just like him. Which makes us all dreamer and the victor like he was.

  • @FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930
    @FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HERMOSA MUSICA

  • @amrrady1
    @amrrady1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:00 is Amazing, specially when the tone goes down 5:50 using cello

  • @ljiljanastanic9076
    @ljiljanastanic9076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Karajan is above all!!💜💜💜

    • @ludwig4713
      @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the second movement is the greatest piece of musical composition of all time. And Karajan makes it the greatest to us modern listeners. Bless them both.

    • @ljiljanastanic9076
      @ljiljanastanic9076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ludwig4713 Oh yes!!!Karajan's Adagio assai is the top,unsurpassed!I love the most it sublime part !!Outstanding!!

    • @ludwig4713
      @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ljiljanastanic9076 Definitely! Especially when he begins this extraordinary musical climb to the Heavens: 22:42

    • @ljiljanastanic9076
      @ljiljanastanic9076 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ludwig4713 22:47...!!!!

  • @joseluiscastellanosramirez8068
    @joseluiscastellanosramirez8068 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Para el hombre ideal , inexistente,Eterna sinfonía Heroica.

  • @josephmathmusic
    @josephmathmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Consecutive opus: Heroica, Triple concerto, Appassionata, Piano Concerto 4, Razumowsky quartets, 4th symphony, violin concerto, Coriolan.

  • @stevymaradona2838
    @stevymaradona2838 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    terima kasih banyak! greetings from indonesia :D

  • @OohnPiagetianNoch523
    @OohnPiagetianNoch523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oboe Solo & Difficult Passage
    Allegro con brio
    0:53
    3:10 / 3:25 / 4:35 / 4:50
    5:53 / 12:20
    Marcia funebre
    (Adagio assai)
    15:20
    17:26
    (Maggiore)
    19:42
    20:26
    30:28
    SCHERZO
    (Allegro vivace)
    32:38 (33:48)
    32:58 (34:08)
    (TRIO)
    34:55 (35:33)
    FINALE
    (Allegro molto)
    39:44 / 39:59 / 41:57
    (Poco andante)
    44:14

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      @user-co8is1pi7r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @user-co8is1pi7r
      @user-co8is1pi7r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @percyharrisonfawcett9755
    @percyharrisonfawcett9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    la mejor versión de todos los tiempos. Atemporal

  • @montanamontana80
    @montanamontana80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ‎1-Allegro Con brio 00:01
    ‎1-Exhibition:
    ‎1st Thematic group (E b major) area of the 1st topic
    Themes (A-B-C)
    A1 cellos 00:01
    This theme, whose first 4 bars constitute the Heart of the movement, has analogies with the overture of ‎Bastien et Bastienne, an opera composed by Mozart in 1768 at the age of 12.‎
    Rhythmic Episode-Strings 00:28
    ‎A1 Tutti 00:44
    A2 (a) B Major (Oboe, clar., flutes, strings) 00:55
    A2 (b) strings-01:06
    A3 (a) the pace of galloping horses (ropes) 01:18
    A3 (b) 01:26

    ‎2nd Thematic group (B Major) area of the 2nd topic
    B1 (a) wood, strings, flute 01:40
    B1 (b) strings, clarinet 02:02
    More harmonic than melodic, it brings harmonies of tenderness that had been absent until now.‎
    ‎B2 2:13 cellos, strings
    B2 chanted 02:23
    A much more vigorous episode.‎
    ‎B3 02:43 conclusion area
    Transition 02:57
    Very diverse fleeting impressions: melodic charm, invitation to dance, vivacity, vigor, calm sweetness.‎

    2-Development (Part 1) thematic work modulating on motifs from A1 and A2
    Transition (continued) 03:02
    A2 03:27
    A1 03:42 with A3 03:52 - 04:07
    A2 04:35
    A2 Fugato 04:50
    ‎RHYTHMIC EPISODE 05:10 - 5:46
    Consists of powerful and dissonant chords that again substitute a binary and ternary rhythm. The ‎voltage is then at its maximum
    ‎3-Development (Part 2)
    ‎ C-New very melodic theme in E minor (Oboe) 05:58
    A1 06:19
    C Mib minor 6:46
    A1 07:08 - 07:34
    Retransition 07:50
    Horn (solo) 08:23
    ‎Re-Exposure:
    ‎1st thematic group (Eb major) area of the 1st topic
    A1 E b major 8: 29
    Corns 8:41
    Flutes 8:51
    Tutti 9:08
    A2 (a) Si b major 9:30
    A2 (b) 9:40
    A3 (a) 9:54
    A3 (b) 10:02
    ‎2nd thematic group (B Major) area of the 2nd topic
    B1 (a) Eb major 10:16
    B1 (b) 10:38
    B2 10:50
    B2 chanted 11:00
    B3 11:21 conclusion area
    Transition 11:36-11:49
    ‎CODA
    Terminal development
    A1 Re b major 11:41
    A1 C major 12:00
    C F minor 12:21
    C Transition 12:40
    Snippets of A1-faggot dominate 12:50
    ‎CLIMAX:
    Gruppetto 13:16
    A1 Eb major-Horns - with arabesques A3 13:26
    It is then an admirable climb towards the final apoteosis (climax).
    A1 Trumpets - Final fanfare 13:55
    The final Fanfare that exalts the hero's triumph.‎
    Final - 14:22 - 14:40 end

  • @gigistout-uh3vf
    @gigistout-uh3vf ปีที่แล้ว

    Amén karajañ

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Comentario de esta integral en: th-cam.com/video/k1gYPx--dCk/w-d-xo.html

  • @vassilistsagkas6849
    @vassilistsagkas6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    41:58

    • @ludwigvanunited6114
      @ludwigvanunited6114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes when the gates of heaven are forced wide open

  • @thehollyrocker69
    @thehollyrocker69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:42

    • @ludwigvanunited6114
      @ludwigvanunited6114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yes the beginning of the greatest musical journey of ALL time...Ludwig van, what would the world be without him

  • @benfriel954
    @benfriel954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:35

  • @patrckhh20
    @patrckhh20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    46:18

    • @neilf6782
      @neilf6782 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      kinda need the lead up from the hymn section

    • @neilf6782
      @neilf6782 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      44.14

    • @ludwig4713
      @ludwig4713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the second movement is the greatest piece of musical composition of all time. Can't believe how he manages to make music sound like and feel like genuine tears falling down a tormented soul's cheeks. From the 5th symphony theme to the THREE CLIMAXES, yes, THREE CLIMAXES, only the Lord can tell how was this composed, this second movement...

  • @geraldnorman9437
    @geraldnorman9437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oo

  • @norbertflorianschuck9300
    @norbertflorianschuck9300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try Hans Rosbaud!

  • @johnswindle6081
    @johnswindle6081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I chose Jesus Christ. I pray I must never choose between no 3 and No 9 BPO Karajan 1963

    • @XenophonSoulis
      @XenophonSoulis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, but I also love the 4th and rhe 7th mvt. 2.

    • @ludwigvanunited6114
      @ludwigvanunited6114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha! Don'tforget 7th second mvt or 5th second mvt or or or

    • @samroth4118
      @samroth4118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ludwigvanunited6114 The 5th second mvt is fantastic but the less successful part of that great symphony...

    • @JDH_MUSIC
      @JDH_MUSIC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samroth4118 Its amazing how good the whole 5th symphony is when you consider how most people just think of the start

  • @texwiller4029
    @texwiller4029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eroica is both classical and neo-classical in the sense that Prokofjev or Stravisnky were not able to write anything even close to it hundred years after Beethoven.

  • @AAS-ut3qm
    @AAS-ut3qm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Karajan has always seemed to be an enigma to me. Superb technical control, beauty of sound, consistency in approach, he has it all. But in the end what do his interpretations actually mean? Klemperer, Furtwangler and others told us what Beethoven was really trying to communicate.

    • @Opoczynski
      @Opoczynski 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Reiner? You're missing something.

    • @ChristophSauerTV
      @ChristophSauerTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should watch some videos here on TH-cam of Karajan rehearsing with his orchestras. And thereby you will see that Karajan didn't only care about perfection in sound but also (and not least) about bringing tones to life.

    • @timpani1950
      @timpani1950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      er, why don't you just do a negative Yelp review?

    • @matthewweflen
      @matthewweflen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they meant "how to fall asleep to Beethoven," then sure.

    • @Alix777.
      @Alix777. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking about the exact same thing just before reading this comment.

  • @1ktomonori
    @1ktomonori 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Furtwängler:深い
    Toscanini:カッコイイ!
    Karajan:どうでもいい

  • @brorsen-metcalf
    @brorsen-metcalf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    49:09

  • @danieledabovich1520
    @danieledabovich1520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    41:45

  • @yh3212
    @yh3212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    50:04