The problem with Cooper is his style of play. It is simply not sustainable in the Premier League. Anti pressing anti possession low block football apart from being horrible to watch is the reason why we dropped well over 20 points from winning positions and was also the reason why we only won 1away game in our first full season and that was against the team who finished bottom of the league. I am grateful for what Cooper achieved at us and he is a genuinely a nice bloke but his football leaves a lot to be desired. In the championship you can get away with his style of play because the quality of the league is simply nowhere near the Premier League, if you put all players behind the ball and be defensive for over 90 minutes it creates such an unnecessary amount of pressure you are almost bound to crack. You will get a few wins by the law of averages but overall it simply isn't a sustainable way of playing. I understand you can't go into the Premier League playing free-flowing attacking football, but not to press an opposition team home or away is such a strange way of playing.
His style of play was brilliant in the champ and for England, it's just when your crazy owner bought nearly 50 players of rejects and unknowns for the same money as Bournemouth spent on maybe 20, breaking every rule he can in the process , your lot are deluded pal
And I think your lot have proved that by finishing with the lowest ever points to survive in the easiest ever season and being the worst away side ever....play like city, mid table to Europe is the delusion you lot claim while only signing complete unknowns or failed prem players your clubs a joke
@@jcorona984 even though you finished 6th in play offs and then fourth the following season under him which is higher finishes than potter had with you, which he got the Brighton job from?
While i didn't want Cooper my main frustration is with our incompetent board and owner. Most Leicester fans will have a decent idea how this will end. I don't know why after getting promoted you would appoint a manager who would obviously divide the fanbase
This could be a really tough job. I think he could well if you consider the circus that might surround Leicester next season. I hope it works out for him and the supporters. The club need to keep the supporters on side for the next couple of seasons and learn their lesson
Forest fan here, I love Steve. I will forever be grateful for what he did for us, to go from where he found us to where he left us was a miracle, and I was heartbroken at his leaving, even if it was perhaps time. I wish him and Leicester all the very, very best. Our rivals are Derby, and after that I most want to see us beat Liverpool. Facing Leicester doesn't feel any different to facing any other side not one of the biggest guns, and Steve will 100% get a wonderful reception back at the City Ground. The story of his time at Forest was generally of great flowing football counter-attacking against weaker sides, but a far more pragmatic approach against anyone who might be as strong or stronger than us. In the Championship we won 2 of 12 against the rest of the top 7 in the league, and were a bit lucky to say the least in the play-offs. In Prem that pragmatism was ramped up. In that first season only 2 of our wins were by 2 goals, most of the rest were *very* tight games that were in the "could have gone either way" category, and I'm not sure there was a single game we "controlled" in the way Leicester did pretty much every match last season. Like you say though, he's always learning, and I think the Foxes will get a better manager than we had because I think he will have looked at what he got wrong and improved. I think this might just be a masterstroke appointment.
from competeting for top 4, winning the fa cup. now to appointing steve bleeding cooper and giving vestagaard a new 3 year deal :( owners should move on
DAVID HERE 50 YEARS FOREST SUPPORTER GREAT TO SEE COOPS BACK FELT HE WAS DONE OVER SOMEWHAT AT FOREST VERY INTENSE COACH WAS INCREDIBLE TO GET US BACK UP SO LET'S SEE WHAT HE CAN DO AGAIN GOOD LUCK TO HIM BRILLIANT GUY BRILLIANT COACH ♥️🌈🙏🏐🥅⚽🎸🎶
Me and the son are absolutely delighted to have the privilege of paying nearly 100 pounds per game to watch this beautiful football thats surely incoming... Hes a lovely guy too .. double bonus
BB you’ve already won the summers best mixed metaphor ‘I don’t have a horse in the fight’….. brilliant! 😂😂😂 Leicester fans get ready for some pretty negative football, Cooper will grind his way to January and if he’s in trouble…….either spend money Leicester don’t have, or be sacked….
Coops did an amazing job in the first season. Bear in mind of the play final team, Spence, Garner, Lowe and Davis were loans, Samba wanted to return to France. Grabban retired and Zinks went as well. There was always going to be a major turn over of players and that Coops was able to create a brilliant team spirit, despite us getting toned most weeks says a hell of a lot. Frankly the dippers don’t deserve him.
can't help but feel that Leicester are going backwards, from high flying and attractive football in mareseca to Cooper... its not bad but its very underwhelming
As a Leicester fan, I'm horrified by this appointment. All of that work developing a passing style wasted. Potter would have been a much better appointment. I think we're down already.
I’m a forest fan and shudder at the thought! He seemed divisive in the dressing room, very negative game plan, switches from ‘attacking’ to defensive on the back of a single goal.. championship level manager imo
Forest fans will be forever grateful to SC for getting us to the PL and the second miracle he worked in our first season by keeping us up. But in our second season his pragmatism and low block began to grate on many fans and our lack of progress. I think, for whatever reason, SC lost his way. I personally felt we played better football under Nuno without necessarily getting the results. I hope SC gets the reception he deserves when he returns to the City Ground ( if he’s still in the job by then) he is held in great esteem by the vast majority of Forest fans. Only time will tell whether Leicester is the right move for him. Plus the supposed ‘rivalry’ between us andLeicester is way overblown. There is only one ‘Derby’ for Forest and it ain’t Leicester.
A lot of people seem to think he puts out low block teams only. That was forced on him at Forest after the scattergun recruitment policy he had nothing to do with. He is like all good coaches- he adapts to circumstances.
Hi Benjamin, We love watching your take on things in all thing’s football and everything you have said is spot on. For me and my son we are over the moon it’s Steve Cooper who has got the job over Potter and one thing sticks out for us and that is he actually wants to be here and manage the foxes where as Potter we feel ummed and arrred and was stalling and would most likely of jumped ship if a bigger job became available. Obviously we are speculating and feel Cooper will play a style which will play to the strengths of the players we currently have. There is no guarantee off course of staying up and if we fo go down then he has the experience to bring us back up again. Cooper did an unbelievable job at Forest and is use to the adversity that is likely to be coming our way in the points deduction we will get. Overall it will be tough but we have the right man at the job. KFC Dad
Cooper is probably the best long term appointment for Leicester. Relegation is very likely but he's probably the best man to get them promoted again in 25/26?
Cooper got us over 2 points a game in the Championship and 1 point a game in the Premier League. I think he got undermined at Forest: others buying players and picking who plays. I suspect every manager is going to struggle at Forest.
Cooper is a decent manager, but I fear with their points deduction. It won't be enough. More importantly, for my club. Edwards signs a 4 year contract. COYH
I will always remember when LCFC were TOTL and we beat them at Home Park with their fans booing the team off at half time and at full time! I wish Cooper well but he's working for an awful, toxic club.
Very decent analyses Ben. As a LCFC supporter i await the coming season with interest. Be interesting to see what support staff he'll bring in and what player comings and goings will transpire. Onwards and upwards ( i hope).
As a Leicester fan its interesting to get other fans opinions on this. For me its a bitter pill to swallow given it looked like we were getting Potter 24 hours ago. A pragmatic manager might be what we need to stay up and I hope he does well, but I see no future in his style of play in the prem. I think it might be tricky to keep the fans on side with this one!
That might be as maybe if you're sawn off with (in my opinion very unfair) points deductions and player sales. But if the worst-case-scenareo plan is to bounce back stronger again, giving Cooper a year to start shaping things before he storms the Championship again isn't the worst idea.
I know Forest would probably consider Derby their main rivals - but it's always risky appointing a manager from a rival team as the fans will be waiting for them to slip up. I'm a Saints fan and when we appointed Redknapp after he'd left Pompey in his first spell - we were on his back from day one. Same with Benitez at Everton.
@@john_michael_white We don't really consider Bournemouth rivals so probably wouldn't care too much I guess, they even loaned us Brooks and Rothwell last season
@@battlep0t Ditto Forest with Leicester. I was pleased Leicester got promoted for the fans of theirs I know, it's not a bigger fixture for us than, say, West Brom would be.
Because he did so well with Forest lol plus a 15pt deduction which Leicester should get but the prem seem to make up these rules as they go so will probably give them +15 pts instead lol ...Leicester shoukd of been docked pts in the championship and didn't iv no faith in the rules of fair play it all depends on which club you are utter rubbish.
As a Forest fan I wish him well
The problem with Cooper is his style of play. It is simply not sustainable in the Premier League. Anti pressing anti possession low block football apart from being horrible to watch is the reason why we dropped well over 20 points from winning positions and was also the reason why we only won 1away game in our first full season and that was against the team who finished bottom of the league. I am grateful for what Cooper achieved at us and he is a genuinely a nice bloke but his football leaves a lot to be desired. In the championship you can get away with his style of play because the quality of the league is simply nowhere near the Premier League, if you put all players behind the ball and be defensive for over 90 minutes it creates such an unnecessary amount of pressure you are almost bound to crack. You will get a few wins by the law of averages but overall it simply isn't a sustainable way of playing. I understand you can't go into the Premier League playing free-flowing attacking football, but not to press an opposition team home or away is such a strange way of playing.
His style of play was brilliant in the champ and for England, it's just when your crazy owner bought nearly 50 players of rejects and unknowns for the same money as Bournemouth spent on maybe 20, breaking every rule he can in the process , your lot are deluded pal
And I think your lot have proved that by finishing with the lowest ever points to survive in the easiest ever season and being the worst away side ever....play like city, mid table to Europe is the delusion you lot claim while only signing complete unknowns or failed prem players your clubs a joke
Cooper was the same way with Swansea. On top of that, he seemed allergic to using substitutions with Swansea.
@@jcorona984 even though you finished 6th in play offs and then fourth the following season under him which is higher finishes than potter had with you, which he got the Brighton job from?
@@jcorona984 and that's the best you e been since lol...well there's no pleasing some haha
Ben your hair looks way better like this in the samurai bun!! i know important info you were waiting to hear!
While i didn't want Cooper my main frustration is with our incompetent board and owner. Most Leicester fans will have a decent idea how this will end. I don't know why after getting promoted you would appoint a manager who would obviously divide the fanbase
This could be a really tough job. I think he could well if you consider the circus that might surround Leicester next season.
I hope it works out for him and the supporters.
The club need to keep the supporters on side for the next couple of seasons and learn their lesson
Forest fan here, I love Steve. I will forever be grateful for what he did for us, to go from where he found us to where he left us was a miracle, and I was heartbroken at his leaving, even if it was perhaps time. I wish him and Leicester all the very, very best. Our rivals are Derby, and after that I most want to see us beat Liverpool. Facing Leicester doesn't feel any different to facing any other side not one of the biggest guns, and Steve will 100% get a wonderful reception back at the City Ground.
The story of his time at Forest was generally of great flowing football counter-attacking against weaker sides, but a far more pragmatic approach against anyone who might be as strong or stronger than us. In the Championship we won 2 of 12 against the rest of the top 7 in the league, and were a bit lucky to say the least in the play-offs. In Prem that pragmatism was ramped up. In that first season only 2 of our wins were by 2 goals, most of the rest were *very* tight games that were in the "could have gone either way" category, and I'm not sure there was a single game we "controlled" in the way Leicester did pretty much every match last season.
Like you say though, he's always learning, and I think the Foxes will get a better manager than we had because I think he will have looked at what he got wrong and improved. I think this might just be a masterstroke appointment.
from competeting for top 4, winning the fa cup. now to appointing steve bleeding cooper and giving vestagaard a new 3 year deal :(
owners should move on
DAVID HERE 50 YEARS FOREST SUPPORTER GREAT TO SEE COOPS BACK FELT HE WAS DONE OVER SOMEWHAT AT FOREST VERY INTENSE COACH WAS INCREDIBLE TO GET US BACK UP SO LET'S SEE WHAT HE CAN DO AGAIN GOOD LUCK TO HIM BRILLIANT GUY BRILLIANT COACH ♥️🌈🙏🏐🥅⚽🎸🎶
Me and the son are absolutely delighted to have the privilege of paying nearly 100 pounds per game to watch this beautiful football thats surely incoming... Hes a lovely guy too .. double bonus
BB you’ve already won the summers best mixed metaphor ‘I don’t have a horse in the fight’….. brilliant! 😂😂😂 Leicester fans get ready for some pretty negative football, Cooper will grind his way to January and if he’s in trouble…….either spend money Leicester don’t have, or be sacked….
Coops did an amazing job in the first season. Bear in mind of the play final team, Spence, Garner, Lowe and Davis were loans, Samba wanted to return to France. Grabban retired and Zinks went as well. There was always going to be a major turn over of players and that Coops was able to create a brilliant team spirit, despite us getting toned most weeks says a hell of a lot. Frankly the dippers don’t deserve him.
cooper out
can't help but feel that Leicester are going backwards, from high flying and attractive football in mareseca to Cooper... its not bad but its very underwhelming
Great manager and really hope it works!
I think the same as you Ben, Cooper is very adaptable. Can also make a team exceed expectations.
As a Leicester fan, I'm horrified by this appointment. All of that work developing a passing style wasted. Potter would have been a much better appointment. I think we're down already.
I share your sentiments
Yeh - we were a decent passing side in that cup match a couple of years ago.
I’m a forest fan and shudder at the thought! He seemed divisive in the dressing room, very negative game plan, switches from ‘attacking’ to defensive on the back of a single goal.. championship level manager imo
Good manager, seemingly a nice guy. I really hope he succeeds. COYG!
Forest fans will be forever grateful to SC for getting us to the PL and the second miracle he worked in our first season by keeping us up. But in our second season his pragmatism and low block began to grate on many fans and our lack of progress. I think, for whatever reason, SC lost his way. I personally felt we played better football under Nuno without necessarily getting the results. I hope SC gets the reception he deserves when he returns to the City Ground ( if he’s still in the job by then) he is held in great esteem by the vast majority of Forest fans. Only time will tell whether Leicester is the right move for him. Plus the supposed ‘rivalry’ between us andLeicester is way overblown. There is only one ‘Derby’ for Forest and it ain’t Leicester.
A lot of people seem to think he puts out low block teams only. That was forced on him at Forest after the scattergun recruitment policy he had nothing to do with. He is like all good coaches- he adapts to circumstances.
he’s not exactly my choice.all I can say is good luck to Leicester I think they’ll going to need it
From sarri to potter to.......shrek?
Hi Benjamin,
We love watching your take on things in all thing’s football and everything you have said is spot on. For me and my son we are over the moon it’s Steve Cooper who has got the job over Potter and one thing sticks out for us and that is he actually wants to be here and manage the foxes where as Potter we feel ummed and arrred and was stalling and would most likely of jumped ship if a bigger job became available. Obviously we are speculating and feel Cooper will play a style which will play to the strengths of the players we currently have. There is no guarantee off course of staying up and if we fo go down then he has the experience to bring us back up again. Cooper did an unbelievable job at Forest and is use to the adversity that is likely to be coming our way in the points deduction we will get. Overall it will be tough but we have the right man at the job.
KFC Dad
Too kind fella 😊😊
Cooper is probably the best long term appointment for Leicester. Relegation is very likely but he's probably the best man to get them promoted again in 25/26?
Cooper got us over 2 points a game in the Championship and 1 point a game in the Premier League. I think he got undermined at Forest: others buying players and picking who plays. I suspect every manager is going to struggle at Forest.
Say that again .... lol
Hope he does a Clough after being sacked by Derby.... Tough task but worth a fiver bet with Leicesters magic dust.....
Great review with actual facts
Cooper is a decent manager, but I fear with their points deduction. It won't be enough. More importantly, for my club. Edwards signs a 4 year contract. COYH
I will always remember when LCFC were TOTL and we beat them at Home Park with their fans booing the team off at half time and at full time! I wish Cooper well but he's working for an awful, toxic club.
One win over us and you think you are champions.
Give it another season and you'll be in League 1 where you belong.😂😂
Very decent analyses Ben. As a LCFC supporter i await the coming season with interest. Be interesting to see what support staff he'll bring in and what player comings and goings will transpire. Onwards and upwards ( i hope).
As a Leicester fan its interesting to get other fans opinions on this.
For me its a bitter pill to swallow given it looked like we were getting Potter 24 hours ago. A pragmatic manager might be what we need to stay up and I hope he does well, but I see no future in his style of play in the prem.
I think it might be tricky to keep the fans on side with this one!
I wish Steve Cooper all the best just as long as his current team finish well below mine. Steve Cooper is a red.
Tbh I wanted potter charge for application as Leicester but it turned out to be cooper #cooper out #topout and #rudkinout
Apparently Potter totally balls'd up the interview
Were down already
That might be as maybe if you're sawn off with (in my opinion very unfair) points deductions and player sales. But if the worst-case-scenareo plan is to bounce back stronger again, giving Cooper a year to start shaping things before he storms the Championship again isn't the worst idea.
Whatever you can say about Stevie C he is a handsome devil ❤ and he gets his teams playing beautiful football 🤗
Lol. Been to spec savers lately, more Quasi Modo than Brad Pitt😂😂😂😂 Get a points deduction then no chance of staying up.
It's a step down from Forest but I wish him well.
lollllll
How many trophies you won in the last 25 years? Twat
😂😂😂😂😂 funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know Forest would probably consider Derby their main rivals - but it's always risky appointing a manager from a rival team as the fans will be waiting for them to slip up.
I'm a Saints fan and when we appointed Redknapp after he'd left Pompey in his first spell - we were on his back from day one. Same with Benitez at Everton.
What if you got Iraola from Bournemouth?
@@john_michael_white We don't really consider Bournemouth rivals so probably wouldn't care too much I guess, they even loaned us Brooks and Rothwell last season
@@battlep0t Ditto Forest with Leicester. I was pleased Leicester got promoted for the fans of theirs I know, it's not a bigger fixture for us than, say, West Brom would be.
Because he did so well with Forest lol plus a 15pt deduction which Leicester should get but the prem seem to make up these rules as they go so will probably give them +15 pts instead lol ...Leicester shoukd of been docked pts in the championship and didn't iv no faith in the rules of fair play it all depends on which club you are utter rubbish.
Not that you are bitter by another playoff loss.
15 points deduction but we will still stay in the premiere league
Leeds talking about cheating 😂😂😂😂