Bet you think you gods chosen talking like that!!!!! You can't make this kind of hate up people. You will know them by their fruits. And the fruit from your mouth is rotten...... You have a good day. No hate here......
Ex jw here about to celebrate thanksgiving with my girlfriend and her family. Got up and cooked some food to take with us and I’m so happy to be away from this cult. Hope everyone has a wonderful thanksgiving!
How jw theology works; Every positive scripture about God's people automatically refers to jws. Every negative scripture refers to everyone else but them😂😂😂😂
Well, of course, and as my “sainted fanatically to the death jw mother “ used to declare: jehooovah ALWAYS had a faithful human representative on earth, the first one being Abel 😂… Just saying.
As you point out at about 13:15 in your podcast, jehooovah doesn’t change his standards, so how can one reconcile that with the words of Jesus when he said: in the past you were told “an eye for an eye, etc. “ but I’m giving you a NEW commandment, etc. ? Or words to that effect… Just saying.
I'd never heard him speak until youtube recommended me this channel yesterday. He has to be one of the fakest human beings I've ever seen, like some kind of prototype animatronic.
I hope you didnt cook a turkey. It's important to be out v of cults but it's important also not to harm other sentient beings. ANIMALS SUFFER, GO VEGAN. Greetings from Italy.
@@PinoEfilistwe have a entire energy based system where we have all have to kill something to sustain life. That includes killing animals or life or killing other vegetables for life . Greetings from America
@@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 bro wut, animals like us have a nervous system and a brain they can experience psychological and bodily pain, vegetables are not sentient, they don't feel any suffering
I have questioned JW elders on these sort of videos. They always justify themselves despite their own hypocrisy. They worship the Governing Body. You cannot reason with them.
Exactly. It is like asking an employee of a Nursing Home to report an abuse of an Elder. They won’t do it for fear of repercussions from the Big Corporation. They fear losing their place. So too, with JWs. The Corporation owns them. They are not paid, but their families and hopes and any advancements as a man, are all tied up to 11 men.
They get highly offended when you tell them this. If they can worship men, then we can have posters up on our walls of our favourite singers, actors, sports people etc, since they are allowed to idol worship now. I got told off in 1997 by a sister who I was studying with, for having a poster of Gary Barlow on my wall and forced my take it down and burn it in the coal fire. She said we don't worship people like him or famous people. I still love Gary Barlow
The idea that individuals killed in Sodom and the flood might get resurrected isn't new. Just in my lifetime of 5 decades it seems like I remember them flip flopping back and forth on this a few times. I said this to my Mom and she claims not to remember, but witnesses kinda get amnesia about what the GB said in the past, maybe I'm misremembering.
I was in for 5 decades too. After many flip flops I just stopped listening, caring or trying to keep up. Why bother, just gonna change it anyway. Wishing I listened to my inner voice a long time ago.
Im happy to support your channel, i cant wait to see a new video, and ive watched the others many times, thank you Wally for all the hard work and emotion you put into your videos❤
Stephen Lett disfellowshipped his nephew for being gay. Their hate drove that poor boy to kill himself. He literally killed his own kin with hate. No hate like Christian love indeed. 8:22
@ I wish it were that simple. But if we judge the tree by its fruit, yes, there is a great deal Christian about them. Christian doesn’t mean good. There’s a reason why many of the most horrific groups for continuing to perpetrate child sexual abuse are churches.
According to the Old Testament, Israelites often fought against other Israelites, especially after the split between the Kingdom of Israel (north) and the Kingdom of Judah (south).
Even that is a lie. Israelites were just Canaanites who converted to monotheism and killed as many polytheists as possible. At best "The Promised Land" refers to their anti-semetic religious cleansing of humans that simply didn't believe the new thing they had made up. Sound familiar?
There was also the time when an entire tribe was, in effect, disfellowshipped. A Benjamite gang had violated and killed the concubine (“wife of lesser value”, “Douay” marginal reading) of a Levite. The Levite cut her carcass and scattered the pieces throughout the land. In response, the rest of the nation fought the Benjamites in the Battle of Gibeah. Only 600 Benjamite men survived and, even though the rest of the nation “grieved” the near-loss of one of their tribes, even these were shunned as no one was willing to arrange marriages for them with their own daughters. The account tells the brutal way in which this was rectified. (Judges chapters 19-21) Incidentally, the account also serves to confirm Wally’s point regarding chattel slavery, both of girls from the surrounding nations and of girls even within Israel.
After 8 minutes into this video I just could not go on anymore. How was I able to watch all those videos and listen to all those lectures in our congregation? The stupidity they utter with everything they teach. How in heaven’s name could I believe all that cr*p?
You are one of the seeds that did not get a chance to grow. (Mark 4:3-7) “Listen. Look! The sower went out to sow. 4 As he was sowing, some seeds fell alongside the road, and the birds came and ate them up. 5 Others fell on rocky ground where there was not much soil, and they immediately sprang up because the soil was not deep. 6 But when the sun rose, they were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seeds fell among the thorns, and the thorns came up and choked them, and they yielded no fruit" In addition, a person needs God's spirit with a right heart to understand what God's word the bible teaches (Matthew 11:25) At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.
@ Do you remember when Stephen Lett said this: So the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we are living the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days shortly before the last day of the last days. Shortly before the last day of the last days. That was 4 years ago. You’re welcome.
@@richardcopperfield8978 Do you honestly think the true God cares about time like us humans. Time is a product of the physical world. Time does not exist in the spirit world. In fact the bible gives us an explanation we can understand by saying 1000 of our years is equal to one day with God. Based on that equation it has been about 2.5 days since Christ Jesus walked the earth. Since 1914 it has been 10 minutes. When it comes to time you need to take the laws of physics out of the spirit realm. Since the last days started in 1914, 10 minutes ago, and considering Matthew 24 and the book of Daniel we are very deep in the last days.
Do not beat yourself up Richard.......I spent 29 years in this cult serving most of the time as a ministerial servant and elder......indoctrination works in some very subtle ways.....as heinous as these are it's difficult to see the hypocrisy from the inside.....once having woken up though and however that manifests itself then I was very much like you.....and many others in fact who have wondered how we could be part of such a high control group......I hope sincerely that you are now living your best life.....because I certainly am.....all the very best to you😊
Have you considered that the reason they released a talk like this (and specifically right now) could be because its a way for them to show their true position in the Isreal / Palestine conflict? Imo, they support Isreal and believe that Jehovah is backing them and even orchestrating the events. (Just my own observations in listening to whats being said... and ultimately whats also NOT being said) 🤷♀️
The point of the 1 month delay before graping captured girls was to make sure she was not already pregnant at time of capture. Basically, make sure she get her period once.
One of my red flag before knowing CSA problem in this org was their using Deuteronomy stories in the dramas! I was like, How dare I didn’t get these stories as HORRIFIC, TERRIBLE, DISGUSTING, SORROWFUL, and INHUMANE while was jw for long time😮I started to question, How can this Jah and this org that loves showing such Bible dramas, be a God of Love and a Loving org!?😅
When Jeffery J comes back on his presumptuous white pony and asks “do you see yourself as one of Jws?” I think I’ll just give him a big smirk and give him the middle finger
I can't stand Jeffrey Jackson, whenever he does a talk, he is extremely condescending (well their all condescending). It's like they are talking to primary school kids, rather than adults. Horrible, horrible man
Russell: "I have two thoughts of which way it could go, it could go one way, or the other... but until then I will not commit." (To paraphrase his apparent claim of his plans of Volume 7 of the Finished Mystery. Which he never wrote, and Rutherford had to get commissioned instead.) He made it up back then, pretending to predict after the fact of the matter. What's the bet they filmed 2 videos? One for if there isn't war, and one for if there is, and will claim they "predicted" the hard times? ;)
Why are you beating on the finished mystery book. That book is not up to date and Bro Rutherford is dead. The book served its purpose at the time and new light has made the finished mystery book obsolete. Did you know that Canadian officials banned the book on February 12, 1918, On March 14, 1918, the U.S. Department of Justice banned The Finished Mystery. On May 7, 1918, the Department of Justice obtained arrest warrants for Giovanni DeCecca, George Fisher, Alexander Macmillan, Robert Martin, Frederick Robison, Joseph Rutherford, William Van Amburgh, and Clayton Woodworth. No doubt all this was brought about by Christendom's leaders. Sounds like the religious leaders of the 1st century who tried to wipe out Christians using the Roman government.
I think I can give you three possible reasons for the Society posting this Morning Worship discussion with Lett now (in no particular order): 1. Jody Jedele. 2. Jacob Rumph. It’s really no secret that Lett and Herd are part of the Morris school of emphasizing the part they expect to play during the battle of Armageddon. It would seem that Splane is not a member of the Morris school. When Morris left the Governing Body (Whether he resigned or was forced off remains officially an open question at this point.), Splane had the votes to approve of the discourse he would deliver only a few months later at the Society’s annual meeting. I suspect that a case could be made for Lett and Herd being furious at the change in understanding Splane presented. That, in addition to their health issues, may explain why we haven’t been seeing as much of them lately. Now, however, with the appointments of Jedele and Rumph, Lett and Herd would, it seem, have the votes to override what Splane said. Given their ongoing health issues, however, this may be one of their last real opportunities to exert influence over their colleagues. 3. Remember the date of last year’s annual meeting: Saturday, October 7, 2023. Most people outside of the organization will recognize that particular date for another event, to wit, the start of the current war between Israel on the one side and Palestine, Lebanon and Iran on the other. Knowing this to be an earlier Morning Worship discussion from before Lett’s health really began turning, the Society may have held it in reserve until it was thought to be relevant. What better way to make the overriding of Splane’s discourse of the same day official than by inadvertently coming out in favor of Netanyahu, thereby violating the Society’s “neutrality” policy, albeit over a year later and in such a manner that most viewers would barely-if at all-notice the latter? It’s safe to say that, since at least Rutherford’s time, the Society has been antisemitic; but, as we know now, to be antisemitic is not the same as being anti-Zionist. Granted, the Society regards itself as the true Zion, even having gone so far as to include that in the very title of its magazine, “Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence” and including such songs as “Zion’s Reason for Rejoicing” (Song No. 83 in the 1984 Song Book) and “‘Awaken, O Zion!’” (Song No. 114 in the 1966 Song Book). But, the Society, even now, maintains that Israel was the Lord’s typical people, a nation at one time in covenant with him. The rejection of typical Israel, ostensibly with Christ’s crucifixion A. D. 33, allows the Society to claim that Jehovah’s witnesses are the Lord’s antitypical people, and that from and after A. D. 1919. Consequently, the Society can claim a commonality with Israel-when it is convenient for the Society. With these facts of its own sordid history, the Society can post such a video as this and thereby, in veiled language, tacitly express support for the current postmodern government of Israel. Admittedly, Lett was referring to Israel’s ancient wars and made no mention of recent conflicts. But, he didn’t have to. We know how conservative the Society is. As such, the Society can support Netanyahu in the present war, however inadvertently, without Jehovah’s witnesses having to join the literal fray, the two-year military-service requirement in Israel notwithstanding. It is hypocritical but, knowing the Society, not surprising. This is, admittedly, quite the confluence of events. This is why I used the term “possible” in the opening paragraph. Nonetheless, it could well be the Society’s way of trying to have its metaphorical cake and eat it too.
My indoctrinated family will say this was in the PAST, Jehovah doesn’t command these anymore😮It terrifies me how people controlled by someone VISIBLE and INVISIBLE can lose their mind and heart, and will say such statement😮Says in the PAST, but telling others Please read this book for your benefit, cuz “ALL” SCRIPTURES are inspired by God and beneficial😅
My aunt would say this too, even if you did show her these kinds of videos. Deaf ears turn a blind eye.. They probably do hear some truths that exjws are saying, but are afraid to leave because they don't have anyone on the outside. But my aunt is a hardcore jw, I know she won't leave, even if she knows that her religion is hitting her with lies.
Ex-JW here: I got into a discussion with two co-workers a few years ago on this topic. I stated that all division that exists today stems from the Bible that all christians read (whatever version). 'God' created status, misogyny, racism, really every ism we see today. 'God' chose a specific people and raised them above all others (the Jewish nation), 'God' created slavery of one by another (the brothers I don't recall at this moment), the bible is nothing but division, separation, status, etc., etc., etc. The marriage of girls to old men has been justified for centuries b/c of this disgusting book. Religion is nothing but a cult and unfounded justification for monstrous behavior towards others, especially women & children. Great video!! --Tess
i agree .... man domination was always the same. men are allowed to be horrible creatures and it has always been that way and men love to dominate, its their dna.... the bible just legalises it... disgusting, time for new morals that kick men on their butt
@@trinikenshin True, from a historical standpoint, but from a religious standpoint, professed christians have historically used the bible to do more harm than good to others claiming and using the bible as their guide. Their 'God' promotes oppression, division based on status/class/wealth/power, gender (male over female), and race, to name just a few. In reality, structured religion (most of them today especially) causes harm, division in unimaginable ways. They use whatever form of religion (christian, non-christian, non-denominational, etc.) to progress their own agendas, personal views, and NO ONE can agree on what god is, who god is, why god is, or how god is, despite the fact that they all claim their god is "the true" god. Religion-organzed, structured religion is a bane to the human experience. People who claim to read and be guided by the bible claim that 'God' created everything, he is the only beginning; that being said---'God' created these the isms of the world. I am not a believer in 'God', especially the one from the bible. But from a religious standpoint, god is nothing more than, at the very least, a cold-hearted, disconnected, disassociated being; at worst, an evil being with a sick sense of morality.
I could be wrong, but I think that passage in Deuteronomy is to dissuade men from taking captive women as wives. It’s like, “You think she’s pretty and you want her as your wife? Fine, but she has to shave her head first,” which Paul said is a disgrace for a woman (1 Corinthians 11:5-6).
Or about letting go of all former life; they are to be given time to grieve and then marry; But although can divorce not allowed to treat her as a slave. But only virgins - (another reason to wait and be sure not pregnant when you marry?)
My favorite Book is Psalms. Peaceful, grateful, beautiful, sensitive. I stay in the places God guides me for rest and contemplation to renew my spirit and to labor for life. Never give away your Peace. All this OT JW antiquated bull 💩is exhausting and not worth their WT Armageddon war that THEY create.
It kills me how they can say follow the governing body no matter what. Any of them when try to tackle basic philosophical questions they are completely lost, make no sense at all. THEY DISPLAY COMPLETE IGNORANCE. I do not understand how they can keep a straight faith. Do they ever listen to themselves and speeches I would be terribly embarrassed That I would disappesr
I just noticed that Lett has clearly had his full upper arch extracted and doesn't wear dentures. That's why his lip curls up like that, and he looks so goofy when he talks. Obviously, a GB member makes a comfortable salary, so money wouldn't be the barrier. Is there something in JW docterine that makes medical/dental appliances a problem?
I'm not a Jehovah's witness. I don't know any of their theology or rules, but I do know I have several neighbors that I grew up with who are Jehovah's witness who refuse to get medical treatment of any kind.
There’s nothing in WT teachings about dental work. So many JW’s are poor and cannot afford but that wouldn’t apply to him. I did zoom in on one video and he had upper teeth. Disproportionately small for the rest of him. I couldn’t watch any longer. 🙈
They consider any improvement in appearance vanity. That is why JWs do not dress like others in more appealing fashions, do not go to doctors unless it’s getting too unbearable, and do not allow children to keep up with class mode-o-day. Vanity, they think.
@@VashtiPerry There are certainly a few of those people. Most of the JW’s I knew did go to the doctor. I knew many who had chemo, heart surgery, bariatric surgery and even an organ transplant. Myself, I have had several surgeries. There are plenty who have had cosmetic surgery too although that may be more frowned on in less progressive areas.
Nothing surprises me with the GB anymore. I can’t watch Stephen Lett, he is such a muppet. He looks exactly like one of those old guys from the muppet show who used to sit in the theatre box yelling insults and telling bad jokes. This is the visual I get, so nothing he say’s looks serious even when it is.
On the contrary, Statler and Waldorf were actually funny. The insults were the joke. They were sitting in their box each week because they really did enjoy the show. Lett is more reminiscent of Nixon and Trump, only without the expletives (as far as we’re aware): Paranoid and yet somehow powerful over his followers.
In another interesting holy book called Bhagavadgita, Gods servant Arjuna, are to fight a war, only to find out that on the enemy side, are his family and friends, It can be interpreted as a powerful message about the fact that EVERY war is a war fought in the head of the fighter. We all need to look mostly at ourself when faced with something that makes us angry or scared. The governing body are doing their best to save a sinking ship, I pray that God will let the light shine into dogmatic minds and that the healthy critical mind can be opened for all. Including those guys.
Would it be weird to say that this might be a coded way to support Israel a lot of jw’s seem to be rooting for Palestine to disappear for the end time to come. This is sickening in a load of ways
I'm now sure what bringing this video up with a JW is supposed to do. They don't care, at least the JW family members that I have. Bringing this up would be a complete waste of time.
Why would God-Jehovah have to team up with the Israelites in war? Couldn't he just smote them with a thought? 😮 If I don't believe in a coming Armageddon but Lett does and it never happens, is Lett more in touch with Jehovah, or am I? Baaaa 🐑
I never understood why jehovah had to send men to do his dirty work when a single angel could do it. And I guess God couldn't keep track of the innocent ones, so he had his men kill them all, including children, women and all their animals... just to be on the safe side... i mean, come on, too many to keep track of! ...and yet he knows all the stars in heaven by name. Hmm
@@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 The principles are good to live by. The cultural context is way different than today. We can see things that were objectionalble, but in a few centuries, folks will look at our time period and easily find things to object to.
Another real question is....why was this video made years ago and held on to. How many other videos have they made in the past and held on to. How many videos were made at the same time by the same official, perhaps subtly encouraging opposite viewpoints to be held on to and released later....with the version being released meeting whatever criteria the GB at that time thought needed to be met? The specific content of this video aside, this really seems to point out the manipulative nature of the GB, that they are making videos, holding on to them for years, and then releasing them to encourage whatever viewpoint they want to encourage.
I’ve been wondering about why they used to be able to go to war but Jehovah witnesses couldn’t go to war ever since I was a kid thank you for answering a question had since I was about 12
The not joining the military is really sad. Our soldiers go into combat to protect our freedom and keep us safe, JWs included. they should be thanking those serving. What a bunch of ingrates.
@ yes it is tbh I wanted to join the navy at 14 but I knew I couldn’t although years later, I did try joining the Navy when I was like 28 but that asvabe test was a bitch if I had tried to join the military when I was in high school I think I could’ve had a lot better chance of getting in because I would’ve had the help but yet again witnesses have ruined my life
The Israelites were instructed to kill their own brothers, the Benjamites in Judges. This was because of the crime committed against the Levite in raping, mutilating and murdering his wife. I think it might be chapter 12.
Stephen Lett creeps me out so much; I've never been a witness so I don't get how you can watch him and not think of him as a deeply fake and creepy old man.
Yeah, I'm a never jw too and he's unbelievably creepy and weird lol. But he's also my fave governing body member for that reason, the meme potential is awesome. Like just show his face to anyone and they'll run away :D
Imagine being a child who drowned in the flood and is resurrected. "Why did I drown?" "You were bad" "What did I do?" "You didn't obey the true god" "But I was 4 and never met him" "Well your parents should have told you about them" "Well then it's their fault I didn't know god to serve him so why did god kill me? And why resurrect me if he decided I was bad before?" Tell everyone in your audience to let this scenario play out and practice how they will covert a drowned child from the ark. See how many people show up for the next meeting 😅
Love what you said at 4:30. This is something we all should take to heart. Would definitely improve a lot of situations, and possibly even show us solutions to some of the current crises if we all did this.
"Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the Sons of God" had a discussion of Jesus in the temple at age 12, the book tied it in with his "bar mitzvah". The bar mitzvah ceremony didn't start till about 1000 year later. In the Bethel library was a set of the Encyclopedia Judaica. No one bothered to check for historic accuracy. About 30 years ago, the WT leaned on that passage from the book, again without checking the facts. Sloppy, sloppy.
I find it fascinating that we’re literally living in a world that is exactly how it would’ve been in bible times. Israel is currently committing genocide in the name of god and that’s exactly what they did in bible times. We continue to have war for many reasons, but a big part due to the bible
The OT is history and should be treated as such just as a study of any other time period. Therein lies its richness: in Art, War strategies, Poetic license, evolution of the human race, cultures, tribes, nations. But not to regress back to. JWs are stuck in a time-warp and refuse to move forward. Why? Fear.
Don't be silly, people have always been waging wars, even people who never heard about the Bible. Intra-species aggression occurs among every social animals, not only humans, it's because how society works, not because somebody read something somewhere.
@@Trabantoslawi directly said we have war for many reasons, but war due to a group saying it’s from god and the bible is literally playing out in israel right now and we see in the middle east. So you don’t be silly
I live in trust that these videos being put out by the organisation will wake more and more up. There is so much insanity withing that talk. Thank you for sharing and opening the discussion. Also still seeing ads in it so hopefully YT see it as valuable information and it wont be demonitised ❤
The word you used in this video: anachronism. Yes, allowing a kidnapped woman time to adjust and prohibiting selling her into slavery is a loving provision in a world where kidnapping or selling brides is normal. Just like "eye for an eye, tooth for tooth" is a loving provision in a world where black eye demands extermination of the offender together with his relatives through family vendetta.
They're so disgusting, that they would shamelessly change the "word of their stupid god" and cut out a part of the verse in Numbers 31:18 about "keeping the virgin girls alive...for yourselves" I have no words to describe this...
What about the wars between the different tribes? Were they not counted as their brothers ? What about the huge casualties with the whipping out of the one their tribes in the book of judges and how they had to wipe out whole city to find new brides for the survivors
🤐 I will keep it zipped, Wally, but I gotta ask: is it just me, but when comparing pics of Lett, and you look at the one on the right, do you see what looks like someone took a brown crayon, and slapped it on his face and swiped an eyebrow, and just kept on going down to the side of his nose- looks like a big muddy “V” in the center of his face? If you see it-you can’t unsee it. The makeup chair must have found some 15 yr old Wet-n-Wild eye & brow pencil in “ brown paper bag” and used a lighter on the end of it to get that wiper blade contour.
"there's nothing complicated ever going on in Stephen Letts' head" 😅😅😅😅 Couldn't have put it better myself. As to the why of putting this video out there, I've got nothing, just seems an absurd thing to do.
My elderly jw Mother said something in October about how we have to support Israel because of their declining population. I do not know if it came from WT or the news. I generally do not ask questions when she says crazy stuff.
I couldn't make it beyond the first clip, it was too infuriating. So we're watching a show about a woman with an abusive husband. She leaves him, and we're supposed to be concerned about HER "bad course"?! Jehovah and Jesus hate adultery, but they're apparently cool with abuse, just like their homeboys the Governing Body, who looove to blame the victims.
My theory how this talk got published now: it was due according to some bureaucratic release scheme decided upon years ago, and contradicting "new light" and looking like a statement about current events ist just pure coincidence, because nobody cared to check the content. Even the idea that their content might need a critical review before releasing it is completely foreign to them.
What annoys me, is when Lett made the comment about war and not wanting to kill a fellow JW in the battlefield, I said to myself, him that makes sense. I've been inactive for 18 yrs, and with certain teachings, still creep up with just going with whatever they say. Smh. I'm so pissed at myself now. 😂 then 😢 at myself.
If you paid attention to what Trump says, he tells you exactly what he is going to do. The word salads of never knowing her policies or what she is going to do came from Kamala Harris.
I hope you didnt cook a turkey. It's important to be out v of cults but it's important also not to harm other sentient beings. ANIMALS SUFFER, GO VEGAN. Greetings from Italy.
So according to Letts - you can wage war as long as not on your own people? Since he says the difference going to war as a JW is that there might be a brother on the other side; but for Ancient Israel the hebrews were all on the same side so God could tell them to kill others as they were not their brothers? What about when Israelite tribes fought each other? Point 2 - oh triple yikes, any man, woman, child, baby on the other side of an Israelite war was judged by God? Hmm maybe it was killing children that might grow up to be bad, maybe God is judging what they are going to do in the future?? Yes - bringing home young women as 'brides', as loot, having killed everyone she ever knew.... Yep that is 'love'. The rest of the culture was already far from consensual (had virginity brutally stolen; but your abuser willing to pay for the goods he soiled then you get to be married off to him).
You were wrong about the war trophy thing. They aren't "allowed" to do it, they're actively encouraged to do it. Also, whats the head shaving and nail polishing thing all about? It's very much a slave thing in my eyes but then the line says not to be a tyrant.
Good question....from what I've seen, the answer is not at all clear-cut. There is some evidence that the Palestinians are actual descendants from the Israelites from the Bible. Over thousands of years and lots of intermarriage, I'd wager that some in both Israel and the palestine areas are descended from the Israel of the Bible....and that there are a lot on both sides that aren't direct descendants. But I'm no historian, just from the little I've read about it, it seems that historians really aren't sure either.
@thelogicaldanger Can I add to this. The place in Scotland in the Western Isles, are named the Hebrides, and the outer Hebrides. Hebrides is the land of the Hebrews. This is where the Celtic people settled along with Ireland, Cornwall, Brittany in France. There are peoples all over Western Europe and later the US that are the original Hebrews.
What you’re touching on here, is Zionism, the concept pushed in the bible where one ethnic culture believed it was divinely superior to all others and consequently justified in murdering anyone who didn’t have the same value system or cultural traditions History has been full of spasmodic human civility Archeologists and historians in the last 100 years or more, have shown that ancient times were very very volitile, mercy seemed to be a virtue for some rulers, while human sacrifice of captives seemed to be a justified virtue of other rulers. Unpredictably hostile times. There was a pit dug up last century near an ancient temple in Egypt, where there were many skeletons of human hands discovered and no other bones, just hands, supporting historical text about eg cutting of enemy swordsman’s and archers hands as a public form of hindrance to discourage surrounding nations invasions and also internal uprisings and revolt. The more gruesome your neighbour was, the more gruesome you had to be Even king Solomon’s solution was power-mongering and violence eg when he told 2 squabbling women to cut a baby in half and give a half to each woman claiming to be mother. At that time, Solomon was considered to be the wisest man, but not wise enough to eventually be outsmarted by his 1000 wives who got him to abandon the Israelite god’s ceremonial practice and instead undertake religious practice of other gods of the women in his harem - of which polygamy was sanctified by the Israelite god We all know the stories, of the incredible paradoxical about-face twists of what constitutes holy and the shifting regulations/ rules in the tome of the Old Testament --- What I gather though from the leaders of the JW, is total inconsistency in interpretation - cherry picking It all seems to be one rule for this situation, and another rule for the same situation at a different time due to a “technicality” [ example: someone died from touching the holy instruments/ a bearer holding up the arch of the covenant. Meanwhile, when Jerusalem was destroyed a couple of times by the Babylonians and the Roman’s, the arch and all Jewish nations principle gold temple regalia was carted off to Rome or Babylon involving people touching it and no one is reported as immediately expiring. So, was it the physical regalia itself that had “paranormal” powers, or was it imbuing “entities” that came and went and came and went 🤷🏿♂️ ] ******** I didn’t see the whole lot of supporting research from the JW leadership that went into the statements captured in this montage upload, but what JW leaders do state, is that when the Christ came along now over 2000 years ago, he was the completement of the complex Jewish law, of which the Pharisees and Sadducees had added extra regulations of eg not just washing your hands before eating, but scrubbing up to your elbows etc etc, just burdening the people. The JW leaders reason that the Jesus’s admonishment was love, Christian love, as demonstrated by the parable of turning the other cheek to be slapped while maintaining passive peaceableness. Meaning no more contradictory Old Testament mumbo jumbo …but in a complete twist of the concept of Christian’s being peaceable footstep followers of the Christ, verses in the New Testament describe the Christ as being a mighty warrior and slayer, so, hypothetically, that should mean Christian’s should be human killers too Just one rule for the minute, and another for in 10 minutes time
It is possible that this is an older video that they did not release until now, or it could be a new video and they used AI to brush up Lett's appearance. Honestly, I do not think it would be out of character for them to do that. The timing of the talk does seem to coincide with current world events (esp. the Russia / Ukraine situation, and how the European countries respond to it; there is a lot of interesting rhetoric in the media these days). I think it has less to do with hate crimes and anti-semitism, and more with the doctrine that JW must avoid military service. PS: Of course, the giveaway that this MUST be an older video is the fact that he does not wear a beard ;)
Well, after all that said. there really is good news afterall.. The good news is.....all that jewish mythology didnt happen. There is np such thing as magic. No flood, no rivers of blood, no resurrection, no prophecy, no slaveey in Egypt the jews were never in Egypt. See the exibit at the natuonal jewish muzeum, Pharoah in csnaan, the untold story. if the jees dont believe it, why shud we ?
You are busy critizing Jw. You are an idiot, animal, demon,goat, hater, anuohia, ekwensu odi ogologo,thunder fire You,
Type in proper English first, then we'll talk.
A Nigerian JW, 🤣🤣🤣🤣💔💔💔💔.....Why so bitter???? I pray that God would release you from the bondage of your cult and give you the free gift of salvation.
this is the most schizo thing i have ever read.
Bet you think you gods chosen talking like that!!!!! You can't make this kind of hate up people. You will know them by their fruits. And the fruit from your mouth is rotten...... You have a good day. No hate here......
Thank you for leaving your comment, for new people who need a demonstration of how much this cult can rot someone's brains
Ex jw here about to celebrate thanksgiving with my girlfriend and her family. Got up and cooked some food to take with us and I’m so happy to be away from this cult. Hope everyone has a wonderful thanksgiving!
Thanks from Brazil ❤
@@kratosbecrazy3437 Happy Thanksgiving! Allways så nice to thank and be greatful!
Happy Thanksgiving 🍂🍁✨
Happy turkey day same here I have never had any regrets about leaving the jws
Ex JW here happy thanksgiving 🦃
How jw theology works;
Every positive scripture about God's people automatically refers to jws.
Every negative scripture refers to everyone else but them😂😂😂😂
Well, of course, and as my “sainted fanatically to the death jw mother “ used to declare: jehooovah ALWAYS had a faithful human representative on earth, the first one being Abel 😂…
Just saying.
As you point out at about 13:15 in your podcast, jehooovah doesn’t change his standards, so how can one reconcile that with the words of Jesus when he said: in the past you were told “an eye for an eye, etc. “ but I’m giving you a NEW commandment, etc. ? Or words to that effect…
Just saying.
@@greyberet1ask her, who represents jehovah bovore rutherfurth !
@@greyberet1bevore Russel?
@@greyberet1I know that tone and emphasis on “Jehovah” all to well🤣😩🤦♀️
I still feel sick in my stomach every time I see this face ..Stephen Lett
How does anyone take him seriously? When he got appointed he wasn't like this iirc.
I'd never heard him speak until youtube recommended me this channel yesterday. He has to be one of the fakest human beings I've ever seen, like some kind of prototype animatronic.
@@cygnustsp Well ..he woke me up...and the rest of these teleevangelists.
Thank you for that Steven Lett. ( Such a CLOWN!)
So it’s not just me feeling ill cause of Lett???!!!…
As a fan of zombie films he's the gift that keeps on giving.
YES 🙌 LET US CELEBRATE 🎉 that we found out that this was really a cult and we were saved!
Saved? From what? We escaped from a high control group. But no one saved us from them. That was all our own doing.
I hope you didnt cook a turkey. It's important to be out v
of cults but it's important also not to harm other sentient beings. ANIMALS SUFFER, GO VEGAN. Greetings from Italy.
@@PinoEfilistwe have a entire energy based system where we have all have to kill something to sustain life. That includes killing animals or life or killing other vegetables for life . Greetings from America
@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 bro vegetables are not sentient, they don't have a nervous system they don't feel psychological and bodily pain wut
@@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 bro wut, animals like us have a nervous system and a brain they can experience psychological and bodily pain, vegetables are not sentient, they don't feel any suffering
I have questioned JW elders on these sort of videos. They always justify themselves despite their own hypocrisy. They worship the Governing Body. You cannot reason with them.
Exactly. It is like asking an employee of a Nursing Home to report an abuse of an Elder. They won’t do it for fear of repercussions from the Big Corporation. They fear losing their place. So too, with JWs. The Corporation owns them. They are not paid, but their families and hopes and any advancements as a man, are all tied up to 11 men.
Yeah, they think they worship God but they're actually worshipping the Governing Body. Voluntary slavery 🤦🏻♀️
They get highly offended when you tell them this. If they can worship men, then we can have posters up on our walls of our favourite singers, actors, sports people etc, since they are allowed to idol worship now. I got told off in 1997 by a sister who I was studying with, for having a poster of Gary Barlow on my wall and forced my take it down and burn it in the coal fire. She said we don't worship people like him or famous people. I still love Gary Barlow
Who let the Lett out? Who, who, who, who who?
It is said that Stephen Lett cuts right to the heart. What does that make him? -- a CUTLETT ! 😂
Go Lett those dogs out! Get him, get that cutlett !! Woof woof woof woof woof! Bah Bah, Lett ! 😳😂
@@christinesotelo7655 you funny lady...cultlett
The idea that individuals killed in Sodom and the flood might get resurrected isn't new. Just in my lifetime of 5 decades it seems like I remember them flip flopping back and forth on this a few times. I said this to my Mom and she claims not to remember, but witnesses kinda get amnesia about what the GB said in the past, maybe I'm misremembering.
They did.
I was in for 5 decades too. After many flip flops I just stopped listening, caring or trying to keep up. Why bother, just gonna change it anyway. Wishing I listened to my inner voice a long time ago.
@@choosewisely616same
Im happy to support your channel, i cant wait to see a new video, and ive watched the others many times, thank you Wally for all the hard work and emotion you put into your videos❤
Stephen Lett disfellowshipped his nephew for being gay. Their hate drove that poor boy to kill himself. He literally killed his own kin with hate. No hate like Christian love indeed. 8:22
That’s so true shame on lett 😢
Exactly. True. Look at him. Even when he smiles that toothless grin, it’s a hate-filled grimace.
@@LilithLiberated
There's nothing Christian about JWs.
@ I wish it were that simple. But if we judge the tree by its fruit, yes, there is a great deal Christian about them. Christian doesn’t mean good. There’s a reason why many of the most horrific groups for continuing to perpetrate child sexual abuse are churches.
All of you ate ekwensu
According to the Old Testament, Israelites often fought against other Israelites, especially after the split between the Kingdom of Israel (north) and the Kingdom of Judah (south).
Even that is a lie. Israelites were just Canaanites who converted to monotheism and killed as many polytheists as possible. At best "The Promised Land" refers to their anti-semetic religious cleansing of humans that simply didn't believe the new thing they had made up. Sound familiar?
There was also the time when an entire tribe was, in effect, disfellowshipped. A Benjamite gang had violated and killed the concubine (“wife of lesser value”, “Douay” marginal reading) of a Levite. The Levite cut her carcass and scattered the pieces throughout the land. In response, the rest of the nation fought the Benjamites in the Battle of Gibeah. Only 600 Benjamite men survived and, even though the rest of the nation “grieved” the near-loss of one of their tribes, even these were shunned as no one was willing to arrange marriages for them with their own daughters. The account tells the brutal way in which this was rectified. (Judges chapters 19-21) Incidentally, the account also serves to confirm Wally’s point regarding chattel slavery, both of girls from the surrounding nations and of girls even within Israel.
After 8 minutes into this video I just could not go on anymore. How was I able to watch all those videos and listen to all those lectures in our congregation? The stupidity they utter with everything they teach. How in heaven’s name could I believe all that cr*p?
You are one of the seeds that did not get a chance to grow. (Mark 4:3-7) “Listen. Look! The sower went out to sow. 4 As he was sowing, some seeds fell alongside the road, and the birds came and ate them up. 5 Others fell on rocky ground where there was not much soil, and they immediately sprang up because the soil was not deep. 6 But when the sun rose, they were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seeds fell among the thorns, and the thorns came up and choked them, and they yielded no fruit"
In addition, a person needs God's spirit with a right heart to understand what God's word the bible teaches
(Matthew 11:25) At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.
@ Do you remember when Stephen Lett said this: So the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we are living the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days shortly before the last day of the last days. Shortly before the last day of the last days.
That was 4 years ago.
You’re welcome.
@@richardcopperfield8978 Do you honestly think the true God cares about time like us humans. Time is a product of the physical world. Time does not exist in the spirit world. In fact the bible gives us an explanation we can understand by saying 1000 of our years is equal to one day with God. Based on that equation it has been about 2.5 days since Christ Jesus walked the earth. Since 1914 it has been 10 minutes. When it comes to time you need to take the laws of physics out of the spirit realm. Since the last days started in 1914, 10 minutes ago, and considering Matthew 24 and the book of Daniel we are very deep in the last days.
Do not beat yourself up Richard.......I spent 29 years in this cult serving most of the time as a ministerial servant and elder......indoctrination works in some very subtle ways.....as heinous as these are it's difficult to see the hypocrisy from the inside.....once having woken up though and however that manifests itself then I was very much like you.....and many others in fact who have wondered how we could be part of such a high control group......I hope sincerely that you are now living your best life.....because I certainly am.....all the very best to you😊
@ why 1914? What happened in 1914?
Have you considered that the reason they released a talk like this (and specifically right now) could be because its a way for them to show their true position in the Isreal / Palestine conflict? Imo, they support Isreal and believe that Jehovah is backing them and even orchestrating the events. (Just my own observations in listening to whats being said... and ultimately whats also NOT being said) 🤷♀️
My thoughts exactly.
I think you're right. It's a big thing in the US politics, and Watchtower IS an American cult, though they don't want to admit that.
I pioneered here in 🇬🇧 and have actually had people bring up this a few times. Good video
You're a damn legend in this community, sir. Great and informative videos, as always 👍
The point of the 1 month delay before graping captured girls was to make sure she was not already pregnant at time of capture. Basically, make sure she get her period once.
Probably a way to get rid of him from the governing body.
Hadn't thought about it! 😮
One of my red flag before knowing CSA problem in this org was their using Deuteronomy stories in the dramas! I was like, How dare I didn’t get these stories as HORRIFIC, TERRIBLE, DISGUSTING, SORROWFUL, and INHUMANE while was jw for long time😮I started to question, How can this Jah and this org that loves showing such Bible dramas, be a God of Love and a Loving org!?😅
Hello Wally😊!
Sincerely good to see/hear you today! Make it Wonderful!
Thank You!😅😂
Are so many wars amongst the watch tower families but they hide them from outside world 😮😮😮
i bet the power struggles make them hate each other
When Jeffery J comes back on his presumptuous white pony and asks “do you see yourself as one of Jws?” I think I’ll just give him a big smirk and give him the middle finger
Honestly, I'm right there with you.
Sounds good to me, I'd be more than happy to give him the bird as well. 😂
I can't stand Jeffrey Jackson, whenever he does a talk, he is extremely condescending (well their all condescending). It's like they are talking to primary school kids, rather than adults. Horrible, horrible man
Russell: "I have two thoughts of which way it could go, it could go one way, or the other... but until then I will not commit." (To paraphrase his apparent claim of his plans of Volume 7 of the Finished Mystery. Which he never wrote, and Rutherford had to get commissioned instead.) He made it up back then, pretending to predict after the fact of the matter. What's the bet they filmed 2 videos? One for if there isn't war, and one for if there is, and will claim they "predicted" the hard times? ;)
Good point!
Why are you beating on the finished mystery book. That book is not up to date and Bro Rutherford is dead. The book served its purpose at the time and new light has made the finished mystery book obsolete.
Did you know that Canadian officials banned the book on February 12, 1918, On March 14, 1918, the U.S. Department of Justice banned The Finished Mystery. On May 7, 1918, the Department of Justice obtained arrest warrants for Giovanni DeCecca, George Fisher, Alexander Macmillan, Robert Martin, Frederick Robison, Joseph Rutherford, William Van Amburgh, and Clayton Woodworth. No doubt all this was brought about by Christendom's leaders. Sounds like the religious leaders of the 1st century who tried to wipe out Christians using the Roman government.
I think I can give you three possible reasons for the Society posting this Morning Worship discussion with Lett now (in no particular order):
1. Jody Jedele.
2. Jacob Rumph.
It’s really no secret that Lett and Herd are part of the Morris school of emphasizing the part they expect to play during the battle of Armageddon. It would seem that Splane is not a member of the Morris school. When Morris left the Governing Body (Whether he resigned or was forced off remains officially an open question at this point.), Splane had the votes to approve of the discourse he would deliver only a few months later at the Society’s annual meeting. I suspect that a case could be made for Lett and Herd being furious at the change in understanding Splane presented. That, in addition to their health issues, may explain why we haven’t been seeing as much of them lately.
Now, however, with the appointments of Jedele and Rumph, Lett and Herd would, it seem, have the votes to override what Splane said. Given their ongoing health issues, however, this may be one of their last real opportunities to exert influence over their colleagues.
3. Remember the date of last year’s annual meeting: Saturday, October 7, 2023.
Most people outside of the organization will recognize that particular date for another event, to wit, the start of the current war between Israel on the one side and Palestine, Lebanon and Iran on the other. Knowing this to be an earlier Morning Worship discussion from before Lett’s health really began turning, the Society may have held it in reserve until it was thought to be relevant. What better way to make the overriding of Splane’s discourse of the same day official than by inadvertently coming out in favor of Netanyahu, thereby violating the Society’s “neutrality” policy, albeit over a year later and in such a manner that most viewers would barely-if at all-notice the latter?
It’s safe to say that, since at least Rutherford’s time, the Society has been antisemitic; but, as we know now, to be antisemitic is not the same as being anti-Zionist. Granted, the Society regards itself as the true Zion, even having gone so far as to include that in the very title of its magazine, “Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence” and including such songs as “Zion’s Reason for Rejoicing” (Song No. 83 in the 1984 Song Book) and “‘Awaken, O Zion!’” (Song No. 114 in the 1966 Song Book). But, the Society, even now, maintains that Israel was the Lord’s typical people, a nation at one time in covenant with him. The rejection of typical Israel, ostensibly with Christ’s crucifixion A. D. 33, allows the Society to claim that Jehovah’s witnesses are the Lord’s antitypical people, and that from and after A. D. 1919. Consequently, the Society can claim a commonality with Israel-when it is convenient for the Society. With these facts of its own sordid history, the Society can post such a video as this and thereby, in veiled language, tacitly express support for the current postmodern government of Israel.
Admittedly, Lett was referring to Israel’s ancient wars and made no mention of recent conflicts. But, he didn’t have to. We know how conservative the Society is. As such, the Society can support Netanyahu in the present war, however inadvertently, without Jehovah’s witnesses having to join the literal fray, the two-year military-service requirement in Israel notwithstanding. It is hypocritical but, knowing the Society, not surprising.
This is, admittedly, quite the confluence of events. This is why I used the term “possible” in the opening paragraph. Nonetheless, it could well be the Society’s way of trying to have its metaphorical cake and eat it too.
well thought out
Best response I've seen in the comments. I can't imagine any other scenario on why they would have released this video now.
My indoctrinated family will say this was in the PAST, Jehovah doesn’t command these anymore😮It terrifies me how people controlled by someone VISIBLE and INVISIBLE can lose their mind and heart, and will say such statement😮Says in the PAST, but telling others Please read this book for your benefit, cuz “ALL” SCRIPTURES are inspired by God and beneficial😅
Right. They are admitting their god is changeable.
thats like 2 conflicting statements, need to ask your family to explain as i do with my family and i get that 'far away stare'
My aunt would say this too, even if you did show her these kinds of videos. Deaf ears turn a blind eye.. They probably do hear some truths that exjws are saying, but are afraid to leave because they don't have anyone on the outside. But my aunt is a hardcore jw, I know she won't leave, even if she knows that her religion is hitting her with lies.
Ex-JW here: I got into a discussion with two co-workers a few years ago on this topic. I stated that all division that exists today stems from the Bible that all christians read (whatever version). 'God' created status, misogyny, racism, really every ism we see today. 'God' chose a specific people and raised them above all others (the Jewish nation), 'God' created slavery of one by another (the brothers I don't recall at this moment), the bible is nothing but division, separation, status, etc., etc., etc. The marriage of girls to old men has been justified for centuries b/c of this disgusting book. Religion is nothing but a cult and unfounded justification for monstrous behavior towards others, especially women & children. Great video!! --Tess
@@tessuntangled3505 all of these things predate the Bible. Your theory is incorrect
i agree .... man domination was always the same. men are allowed to be horrible creatures and it has always been that way and men love to dominate, its their dna.... the bible just legalises it... disgusting, time for new morals that kick men on their butt
@@trinikenshin True, from a historical standpoint, but from a religious standpoint, professed christians have historically used the bible to do more harm than good to others claiming and using the bible as their guide. Their 'God' promotes oppression, division based on status/class/wealth/power, gender (male over female), and race, to name just a few. In reality, structured religion (most of them today especially) causes harm, division in unimaginable ways. They use whatever form of religion (christian, non-christian, non-denominational, etc.) to progress their own agendas, personal views, and NO ONE can agree on what god is, who god is, why god is, or how god is, despite the fact that they all claim their god is "the true" god. Religion-organzed, structured religion is a bane to the human experience. People who claim to read and be guided by the bible claim that 'God' created everything, he is the only beginning; that being said---'God' created these the isms of the world. I am not a believer in 'God', especially the one from the bible. But from a religious standpoint, god is nothing more than, at the very least, a cold-hearted, disconnected, disassociated being; at worst, an evil being with a sick sense of morality.
@@tessuntangled3505thank you, I agree 💯
I could be wrong, but I think that passage in Deuteronomy is to dissuade men from taking captive women as wives. It’s like, “You think she’s pretty and you want her as your wife? Fine, but she has to shave her head first,” which Paul said is a disgrace for a woman (1 Corinthians 11:5-6).
I don’t think that would dissuade anyone. Never underestimate a horny soldier.
Or about letting go of all former life; they are to be given time to grieve and then marry; But although can divorce not allowed to treat her as a slave.
But only virgins - (another reason to wait and be sure not pregnant when you marry?)
My favorite Book is Psalms. Peaceful, grateful, beautiful, sensitive. I stay in the places God guides me for rest and contemplation to renew my spirit and to labor for life. Never give away your Peace. All this OT JW antiquated bull 💩is exhausting and not worth their WT Armageddon war that THEY create.
@@christinesotelo7655 lovely words expressed dear
Can't wait for Christmas it's the big one in Jamaica ex jw here
It kills me how they can say follow the governing body no matter what. Any of them when try to tackle basic philosophical questions they are completely lost, make no sense at all. THEY DISPLAY COMPLETE IGNORANCE.
I do not understand how they can keep a straight faith.
Do they ever listen to themselves and speeches
I would be terribly embarrassed
That I would disappesr
It is an embarrassing group.
i often stop my elderly mother when i take her shopping as she has to witness to everyone, its me that gets red faced
I’d love to actually see Steven Lett debating someone. Until I see that his Mormon story is just more lies.
Really weird an adult man. More so spiritual leader going saying baaaaa on live broadcast. Really Weird 🙂↕️
Nice release on turkey day! Happy thanksgiving, Wally
Happy thanksgiving Wally🍁🦃
Their love has not killed off the eternal War with Apostates. I seek vengeance and Jehovah will be made to pay.
I just noticed that Lett has clearly had his full upper arch extracted and doesn't wear dentures. That's why his lip curls up like that, and he looks so goofy when he talks. Obviously, a GB member makes a comfortable salary, so money wouldn't be the barrier. Is there something in JW docterine that makes medical/dental appliances a problem?
I'm not a Jehovah's witness. I don't know any of their theology or rules, but I do know I have several neighbors that I grew up with who are Jehovah's witness who refuse to get medical treatment of any kind.
There’s nothing in WT teachings about dental work. So many JW’s are poor and cannot afford but that wouldn’t apply to him.
I did zoom in on one video and he had upper teeth. Disproportionately small for the rest of him. I couldn’t watch any longer. 🙈
Vanity.
They consider any improvement in appearance vanity. That is why JWs do not dress like others in more appealing fashions, do not go to doctors unless it’s getting too unbearable, and do not allow children to keep up with class mode-o-day. Vanity, they think.
@@VashtiPerry There are certainly a few of those people. Most of the JW’s I knew did go to the doctor. I knew many who had chemo, heart surgery, bariatric surgery and even an organ transplant. Myself, I have had several surgeries. There are plenty who have had cosmetic surgery too although that may be more frowned on in less progressive areas.
Nothing surprises me with the GB anymore. I can’t watch Stephen Lett, he is such a muppet. He looks exactly like one of those old guys from the muppet show who used to sit in the theatre box yelling insults and telling bad jokes. This is the visual I get, so nothing he say’s looks serious even when it is.
Waldorf and Statler . He does remind you of a muppet
On the contrary, Statler and Waldorf were actually funny. The insults were the joke. They were sitting in their box each week because they really did enjoy the show.
Lett is more reminiscent of Nixon and Trump, only without the expletives (as far as we’re aware): Paranoid and yet somehow powerful over his followers.
In another interesting holy book called Bhagavadgita, Gods servant Arjuna, are to fight a war, only to find out that on the enemy side, are his family and friends, It can be interpreted as a powerful message about the fact that EVERY war is a war fought in the head of the fighter. We all need to look mostly at ourself when faced with something that makes us angry or scared.
The governing body are doing their best to save a sinking ship, I pray that God will let the light shine into dogmatic minds and that the healthy critical mind can be opened for all. Including those guys.
The flood lights are beaming😂😂😂😂
Would it be weird to say that this might be a coded way to support Israel a lot of jw’s seem to be rooting for Palestine to disappear for the end time to come. This is sickening in a load of ways
I'm now sure what bringing this video up with a JW is supposed to do. They don't care, at least the JW family members that I have. Bringing this up would be a complete waste of time.
they wouldn't get it anyways
Why would God-Jehovah have to team up with the Israelites in war? Couldn't he just smote them with a thought? 😮
If I don't believe in a coming Armageddon but Lett does and it never happens, is Lett more in touch with Jehovah, or am I?
Baaaa 🐑
I never understood why jehovah had to send men to do his dirty work when a single angel could do it. And I guess God couldn't keep track of the innocent ones, so he had his men kill them all, including children, women and all their animals... just to be on the safe side... i mean, come on, too many to keep track of! ...and yet he knows all the stars in heaven by name. Hmm
And every hair on everyone’s head🤔
The Mosaic Law was given at a different time, different culture. It's like watching Klingons....
same thought
Doesn't make it right...
@@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 The principles are good to live by. The cultural context is way different than today. We can see things that were objectionalble, but in a few centuries, folks will look at our time period and easily find things to object to.
This came at a perfect time because I’m working on a Stephen Lett video
Another real question is....why was this video made years ago and held on to. How many other videos have they made in the past and held on to. How many videos were made at the same time by the same official, perhaps subtly encouraging opposite viewpoints to be held on to and released later....with the version being released meeting whatever criteria the GB at that time thought needed to be met?
The specific content of this video aside, this really seems to point out the manipulative nature of the GB, that they are making videos, holding on to them for years, and then releasing them to encourage whatever viewpoint they want to encourage.
I’ve been wondering about why they used to be able to go to war but Jehovah witnesses couldn’t go to war ever since I was a kid thank you for answering a question had since I was about 12
The not joining the military is really sad. Our soldiers go into combat to protect our freedom and keep us safe, JWs included. they should be thanking those serving. What a bunch of ingrates.
@ yes it is tbh I wanted to join the navy at 14 but I knew I couldn’t although years later, I did try joining the Navy when I was like 28 but that asvabe test was a bitch if I had tried to join the military when I was in high school I think I could’ve had a lot better chance of getting in because I would’ve had the help but yet again witnesses have ruined my life
Lett have a rubber face. His eyebrows and mouth movement remind me of an old children's show character, Bear in the Big Blue House.
There was a famous painter who had a solution for this problem. He called it the final solution.
Hitler indeed.
The Israelites were instructed to kill their own brothers, the Benjamites in Judges. This was because of the crime committed against the Levite in raping, mutilating and murdering his wife. I think it might be chapter 12.
Stephen Lett creeps me out so much; I've never been a witness so I don't get how you can watch him and not think of him as a deeply fake and creepy old man.
Yeah, I'm a never jw too and he's unbelievably creepy and weird lol. But he's also my fave governing body member for that reason, the meme potential is awesome. Like just show his face to anyone and they'll run away :D
Imagine being a child who drowned in the flood and is resurrected.
"Why did I drown?"
"You were bad"
"What did I do?"
"You didn't obey the true god"
"But I was 4 and never met him"
"Well your parents should have told you about them"
"Well then it's their fault I didn't know god to serve him so why did god kill me? And why resurrect me if he decided I was bad before?"
Tell everyone in your audience to let this scenario play out and practice how they will covert a drowned child from the ark. See how many people show up for the next meeting 😅
11:57 oh god were getting a jw x mormon crossover
Exactly. The 11 men control the clothing so now we wait for them to announce the proper underwear to wear, like the Mormons.
Thanks Wally, I certainly agree. Jahovia god was horrible allowing horrible things to happen to people.
Happy thanksgiving, best wishes for the holidays🫶🏽
Love what you said at 4:30. This is something we all should take to heart. Would definitely improve a lot of situations, and possibly even show us solutions to some of the current crises if we all did this.
"Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the Sons of God" had a discussion of Jesus in the temple at age 12, the book tied it in with his "bar mitzvah". The bar mitzvah ceremony didn't start till about 1000 year later. In the Bethel library was a set of the Encyclopedia Judaica. No one bothered to check for historic accuracy. About 30 years ago, the WT leaned on that passage from the book, again without checking the facts. Sloppy, sloppy.
Oh mah gad this napoleon dynamite background music. I love your channel.
The words “Israel” and “war” equals Google ranking/clicks right now? Keywords.
I find it fascinating that we’re literally living in a world that is exactly how it would’ve been in bible times. Israel is currently committing genocide in the name of god and that’s exactly what they did in bible times. We continue to have war for many reasons, but a big part due to the bible
They aren't committing genocide . The Palestinians are the ones committing genocide against the Jews
The OT is history and should be treated as such just as a study of any other time period. Therein lies its richness: in Art, War strategies, Poetic license, evolution of the human race, cultures, tribes, nations. But not to regress back to. JWs are stuck in a time-warp and refuse to move forward. Why? Fear.
Don't be silly, people have always been waging wars, even people who never heard about the Bible. Intra-species aggression occurs among every social animals, not only humans, it's because how society works, not because somebody read something somewhere.
@@Trabantoslawi directly said we have war for many reasons, but war due to a group saying it’s from god and the bible is literally playing out in israel right now and we see in the middle east. So you don’t be silly
@@Guitatertot As if the modern "Israel" had anything in common with the state that existed 2500 years ago in Palestine. Zionists are anti-religious.
No more “beautiful disasters of talks” from Lett. Elegant turn of phrase, Wally.
I live in trust that these videos being put out by the organisation will wake more and more up. There is so much insanity withing that talk. Thank you for sharing and opening the discussion.
Also still seeing ads in it so hopefully YT see it as valuable information and it wont be demonitised ❤
The word you used in this video: anachronism. Yes, allowing a kidnapped woman time to adjust and prohibiting selling her into slavery is a loving provision in a world where kidnapping or selling brides is normal. Just like "eye for an eye, tooth for tooth" is a loving provision in a world where black eye demands extermination of the offender together with his relatives through family vendetta.
I just laughed . Stephen lett is a nut lol
THANK YOU!
Happy Thanksgiving! 🍁
Fuck thanksgiving
It's crazy how all JWs look the same.
I just can't stomach Stephen Lett anymore.
They're so disgusting, that they would shamelessly change the "word of their stupid god" and cut out a part of the verse in Numbers 31:18 about "keeping the virgin girls alive...for yourselves"
I have no words to describe this...
i have more than a few to share
the way he talks is almost as creepy as the cult he promulgates
What about the wars between the different tribes? Were they not counted as their brothers ? What about the huge casualties with the whipping out of the one their tribes in the book of judges and how they had to wipe out whole city to find new brides for the survivors
This was the first time in a while that anything JW actually had me gape in chock
🤐 I will keep it zipped, Wally, but I gotta ask: is it just me, but when comparing pics of Lett, and you look at the one on the right, do you see what looks like someone took a brown crayon, and slapped it on his face and swiped an eyebrow, and just kept on going down to the side of his nose- looks like a big muddy “V” in the center of his face? If you see it-you can’t unsee it. The makeup chair must have found some 15 yr old Wet-n-Wild eye & brow pencil in “ brown paper bag” and used a lighter on the end of it to get that wiper blade contour.
That JW elder guy straight up looks like he's wearing an Edgar suit. Coincident or incident? 🙃
"there's nothing complicated ever going on in Stephen Letts' head" 😅😅😅😅 Couldn't have put it better myself.
As to the why of putting this video out there, I've got nothing, just seems an absurd thing to do.
I'm not even 40 seconds in and I'm already very confused. Has Stephen Lett been watching made-for-TV movies?
My elderly jw Mother said something in October about how we have to support Israel because of their declining population. I do not know if it came from WT or the news. I generally do not ask questions when she says crazy stuff.
Every industrialized county has a declining population. So that statement makes no sense.
JWs aren’t supposed to support anyone. They can’t even support their own.
Should have asked her how much the Palestinian population is declining with all of them getting murdered...
I couldn't make it beyond the first clip, it was too infuriating. So we're watching a show about a woman with an abusive husband. She leaves him, and we're supposed to be concerned about HER "bad course"?! Jehovah and Jesus hate adultery, but they're apparently cool with abuse, just like their homeboys the Governing Body, who looove to blame the victims.
My theory how this talk got published now: it was due according to some bureaucratic release scheme decided upon years ago, and contradicting "new light" and looking like a statement about current events ist just pure coincidence, because nobody cared to check the content. Even the idea that their content might need a critical review before releasing it is completely foreign to them.
Ugggghhhhh Stevie……the Bible actually commanded the Israelite armies to take every woman and daughter for themselves…..
It’s AI…. The GB will now live forever 😂
Who is AI?
@@keineahnung74 artificial intelligence
What annoys me, is when Lett made the comment about war and not wanting to kill a fellow JW in the battlefield, I said to myself, him that makes sense. I've been inactive for 18 yrs, and with certain teachings, still creep up with just going with whatever they say. Smh. I'm so pissed at myself now. 😂 then 😢 at myself.
This dude facial expression is priceless 😂
Stephen Lett resorts to platitudes and clichés to substantiate Watchtowers banal doctrines: A=B, B=C, A=C.
If you paid attention to what Trump says, he tells you exactly what he is going to do. The word salads of never knowing her policies or what she is going to do came from Kamala Harris.
Happy thanksgiving 🦃🍁
I hope you didnt cook a turkey. It's important to be out v
of cults but it's important also not to harm other sentient beings. ANIMALS SUFFER, GO VEGAN. Greetings from Italy.
So according to Letts - you can wage war as long as not on your own people? Since he says the difference going to war as a JW is that there might be a brother on the other side; but for Ancient Israel the hebrews were all on the same side so God could tell them to kill others as they were not their brothers? What about when Israelite tribes fought each other?
Point 2 - oh triple yikes, any man, woman, child, baby on the other side of an Israelite war was judged by God? Hmm maybe it was killing children that might grow up to be bad, maybe God is judging what they are going to do in the future??
Yes - bringing home young women as 'brides', as loot, having killed everyone she ever knew.... Yep that is 'love'. The rest of the culture was already far from consensual (had virginity brutally stolen; but your abuser willing to pay for the goods he soiled then you get to be married off to him).
18:28 Know many families that they don't have peace amongst them selfs st Let is Munster of hypocrisy 😮😮😮
Watchtower a Cult
You were wrong about the war trophy thing. They aren't "allowed" to do it, they're actively encouraged to do it.
Also, whats the head shaving and nail polishing thing all about? It's very much a slave thing in my eyes but then the line says not to be a tyrant.
Can it be said that the Israelites from the bible, are the same people that live in Israel today?
Good question....from what I've seen, the answer is not at all clear-cut. There is some evidence that the Palestinians are actual descendants from the Israelites from the Bible. Over thousands of years and lots of intermarriage, I'd wager that some in both Israel and the palestine areas are descended from the Israel of the Bible....and that there are a lot on both sides that aren't direct descendants. But I'm no historian, just from the little I've read about it, it seems that historians really aren't sure either.
@thelogicaldanger Can I add to this. The place in Scotland in the Western Isles, are named the Hebrides, and the outer Hebrides. Hebrides is the land of the Hebrews. This is where the Celtic people settled along with Ireland, Cornwall, Brittany in France. There are peoples all over Western Europe and later the US that are the original Hebrews.
bahhh 😢 goodbye little sheep 🐑
"Going to" Good catch. I do that all the time
24:00 this is a fairy tale version of what islam prescribes 😢 kudos to you for speaking openly about this ❤
What you’re touching on here, is Zionism, the concept pushed in the bible where one ethnic culture believed it was divinely superior to all others and consequently justified in murdering anyone who didn’t have the same value system or cultural traditions
History has been full of spasmodic human civility
Archeologists and historians in the last 100 years or more, have shown that ancient times were very very volitile, mercy seemed to be a virtue for some rulers, while human sacrifice of captives seemed to be a justified virtue of other rulers. Unpredictably hostile times. There was a pit dug up last century near an ancient temple in Egypt, where there were many skeletons of human hands discovered and no other bones, just hands, supporting historical text about eg cutting of enemy swordsman’s and archers hands as a public form of hindrance to discourage surrounding nations invasions and also internal uprisings and revolt. The more gruesome your neighbour was, the more gruesome you had to be
Even king Solomon’s solution was power-mongering and violence eg when he told 2 squabbling women to cut a baby in half and give a half to each woman claiming to be mother. At that time, Solomon was considered to be the wisest man, but not wise enough to eventually be outsmarted by his 1000 wives who got him to abandon the Israelite god’s ceremonial practice and instead undertake religious practice of other gods of the women in his harem - of which polygamy was sanctified by the Israelite god
We all know the stories, of the incredible paradoxical about-face twists of what constitutes holy and the shifting regulations/ rules in the tome of the Old Testament
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What I gather though from the leaders of the JW, is total inconsistency in interpretation - cherry picking
It all seems to be one rule for this situation, and another rule for the same situation at a different time due to a “technicality”
[ example: someone died from touching the holy instruments/ a bearer holding up the arch of the covenant. Meanwhile, when Jerusalem was destroyed a couple of times by the Babylonians and the Roman’s, the arch and all Jewish nations principle gold temple regalia was carted off to Rome or Babylon involving people touching it and no one is reported as immediately expiring. So, was it the physical regalia itself that had “paranormal” powers, or was it imbuing “entities” that came and went and came and went 🤷🏿♂️ ]
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I didn’t see the whole lot of supporting research from the JW leadership that went into the statements captured in this montage upload, but what JW leaders do state, is that when the Christ came along now over 2000 years ago, he was the completement of the complex Jewish law, of which the Pharisees and Sadducees had added extra regulations of eg not just washing your hands before eating, but scrubbing up to your elbows etc etc, just burdening the people. The JW leaders reason that the Jesus’s admonishment was love, Christian love, as demonstrated by the parable of turning the other cheek to be slapped while maintaining passive peaceableness. Meaning no more contradictory Old Testament mumbo jumbo
…but in a complete twist of the concept of Christian’s being peaceable footstep followers of the Christ, verses in the New Testament describe the Christ as being a mighty warrior and slayer, so, hypothetically, that should mean Christian’s should be human killers too
Just one rule for the minute, and another for in 10 minutes time
Maybe they release this because Lett is not able to giv talk anymore , because he is too weak?
Had to like to get it to 667. You’re welcome 😉
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666 isn't a bad number. It's only seen as bad because Christians/the Bible say it is.
Thou shall not kill
I'm willing to bet Wally's channel that Lett's conversation with that mormon was totally made up.😂
I find the watchtower hypocritical. Their elders do not so good things to people.
Maybe a PIMO Bethelite released it to show the contradictions or constant changes the Organization has!!??
It is possible that this is an older video that they did not release until now, or it could be a new video and they used AI to brush up Lett's appearance. Honestly, I do not think it would be out of character for them to do that. The timing of the talk does seem to coincide with current world events (esp. the Russia / Ukraine situation, and how the European countries respond to it; there is a lot of interesting rhetoric in the media these days). I think it has less to do with hate crimes and anti-semitism, and more with the doctrine that JW must avoid military service.
PS: Of course, the giveaway that this MUST be an older video is the fact that he does not wear a beard ;)
Quelle drôle de bouche il a quand même stephen lett !???
Well, after all that said. there really is good news afterall.. The good news is.....all that jewish mythology didnt happen. There is np such thing as magic. No flood, no rivers of blood, no resurrection, no prophecy, no slaveey in Egypt
the jews were never in Egypt. See the exibit at the natuonal jewish muzeum, Pharoah in csnaan, the untold story. if the jees dont believe it, why shud we
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