This is why we should have a public bank for NYC & NYS, so we could use our public dollars to do these projects rather than using Wall street firms like Goldman Sachs!
Texas will not embrace this because it is the state of gas and oil. No government incentives here. Some cities have created some cost savings but the legislature is in the pocket of big oil and gas.
What kills this, is the cost of installation. I summer in Greece where the cost of the unit/materials is the same as here, but here JUST for "charging" the unit - after I install it, both the unit on the wall, and the electrical - it costs close to $1 K. In Greece, ALL the installation is $150.00. So, to install four units for the whole house (One in each room), there would cost as much as just one room here. So, right now, I am learning how to do my own "charging" installation. But most people can't do that...here in the U.S.....
@@jeffperegrina4183, yes, not kidding. I am putting another air condition next week in one of my bedrooms - I am here in Greece for the summer. The unit is a 12K BTU, costs me 400 Euros, plus the installation which is 120 Euros.
This winter we were below zero Fahrenheit most every night. We went through 4 months below 32⁰ Fahrenheit. Do these heat pumps work when it's that cold?
-40° F is what they said was the low temp at which the refrigerant no longer works. That’s *72* *degrees* BELOW freezing and *40* *degrees* BELOW 0° Fahrenheit. Unless you live in Siberia or Antarctica it probably wouldn’t be a problem.
Jaimie - you can talk to a local HVAC contractor but it is highly unlikely you can get by with a heat pump without supplemental heat. Technically heat pumps "work" at temps above -40f but the reality is the amount of heat produced at those temps is inadequate to heat a house. You would have to drastically oversize the heat pump or add supplemental heat. I looked into this for a rental condo I have. There is a huge cost saving if you just use a heat pump and no supplemental heat which is probably what the slum lord and the blocpower hustler in Detroit in this video are counting on. However if you have a cold winter you just might need to use the oven to keep yourself from freezing just like back in the day. The landlord and blocpower are going to be in a pile of trouble if one of their elderly tenants freezes to death.
I live in New Hampshire....do they "work" at low temps yes...but below 10F you'll be surprised how little heat you will get from your average sized heat pump. The real problem is a homes heat loss. You really need to insulate a home if your going to run a heat pump in cold climates. Or have a supplemental heat source.
I live in Northern New Brunswick 🇨🇦 we get -24C, but one secret to heat pumps is location in your house, but summer months works as an air conditioner. I also have a wood/electric force air furnace but mainly run the heat pump. I like the heat pumps.
This is NOT a one size fit's all problem... Heat pumps run on electrictity and where do we here in New England get the majority of our electric from, burning NG, and where do we get most of our NG from...Putin's Russia. Last year Eversource here in NH raised our rate by 112%...plus heat pumps don't work too well at -20F with a -30F wind chill. Up here it's much better to better insulate your home. Heat pumps might be great...depending on your situation and your location.
Heat Pumps run on electricity. Where do you get the electricity ? Coal power plants ? Oil Power plants ? Now if there were wind & solar power generators on the roofs .
Yes. It goes together. Efficient efforts that lower energy demands, and heating/cooling which uses the most of our buildings’ electricity. Also switch to renewables, although it is already progress to lower energy demand and that can give our grids some ease
@@Maverickgouda Heat pumps run on electrictity and where do we here in New England get the majority of our electric from, burning NG, and where do we get most of our NG from...Putin's Russia. Last year Eversource here in NH raised our rate by 112%...plus they don't work too well at -20F with a -30F wind chill. Up here it's much better to better insulate your home.
@@dertythegrower Solar and wind make you more reliant on gas, oil, coal and nuclear to be there instantaneously when they go down. That's the problem, intermittancy.
Тепловой насос эффективен только в межсезонье, в зонах с холодным климатом и низкой температурой зимой у него низкий КПД, и никто не учитывает постоянные утечки хладагентов а также высокую стоимость установки, эксплуатации и утилизации, большой вред производства такого оборудования и фреонов, так же нужна электроэнергия. Вывод: нужно придумать что то ещё или просто жить в теплом климате и не строить огромные мегаполисы в холодном климате..
I’m no expert, but from what I’ve read there are cold climate heat pumps (as opposed to what’s called "air source’ heat pumps) , which is what the description of those in the video sound like, that work at much colder temperatures. They’re popular and used in Norway, for example.
@@joonzville You're talking about ground source heat pumps and they require pipes buried in the ground and are expensive af for a retrofit. This video is very dishonest in regard to how low a temp an air source heat pump will work. They will work to -40 but the heat produced is so small you would have to drastically oversize them or add supplemental electric heat which is expensive if you don't have a solar array and battery setup (which is expensive again). I do feel sorry for the tenants of these slumlord hustlers in Detroit - someone is going to freeze to death.
The heat pumps they are installing won't be adequate to protect from freezing in Detroit winters. someone is going to freeze to death or burn the building down running an oven for heat.
13% of CO2 emissions in the US are from residential/commercial buildings, primarily for heating, cooling and lighting. This is the 4th largest contributor. If you add the percentage for generating the electricity used by these buildings (and all electricity production accounts for 25% of CO2), then the share for residential/commercial goes up considerably. Transportation is around 28% and industry is around 23% (and if electricity generation is added to industry, its share goes up a lot, too). We need to reduce ALL sources of CO2 if we want keep this planet half-way livable for ourselves and our children. We’re already too late to prevent some of the disaster that’s barreling down the tracks at us.
@@Keepskatin Clarifying, mostly, and pointing out the knock on effect of reducing electricity production’s 25% by improving different buildings’ 13%. BTW, where did you get the stat that military weapons are such a large contributor? The only thing I found said that all of the DOD is responsible for around 1% of emissions and if you added in the manufacturing of their ‘tools’ in the civilian sector, it brought it up to 2%.
R'ofl...nope not after the last year. I've reduced my elec bill by 70% and have no heat no a/c. Welcome to "green USA". I'm having my heat pump pulled and never again. Heat winter is @58f to keep mom, plants, fish alive...summer...all insulation and solar fans. Summer is 78f and deal with it. Thanks...my mom of 79 really appreciates the summers and the winters. No taxes no fuel. You that want to touch the fireplace...my cold dead hands...God bless
It just moves heat from the outside air to the inside air, or a reverse air conditioner to put it simply. No overall loss or gain of heat, it's just moving it.
Prophethood will remain amongst you for as long as Allah wishes. Then Allah will remove it whenever He wishes to remove it, and there will be a caliphate upon the prophetic methodology. Muhammad Qasim is Mahdi
In other countries these are called "Reverse cycle air conditioners"
Reverse cycle Climate.
This is why we should have a public bank for NYC & NYS, so we could use our public dollars to do these projects rather than using Wall street firms like Goldman Sachs!
credit union... they already exist and also have fdic safety insurance for 250,000 also...
Texas will not embrace this because it is the state of gas and oil. No government incentives here. Some cities have created some cost savings but the legislature is in the pocket of big oil and gas.
Best thing we ever added to our house.
What kills this, is the cost of installation. I summer in Greece where the cost of the unit/materials is the same as here, but here JUST for "charging" the unit - after I install it, both the unit on the wall, and the electrical - it costs close to $1 K. In Greece, ALL the installation is $150.00. So, to install four units for the whole house (One in each room), there would cost as much as just one room here. So, right now, I am learning how to do my own "charging" installation. But most people can't do that...here in the U.S.....
Our government could give rebates…
Entire installs for $150?😅
@@jeffperegrina4183, yes, not kidding. I am putting another air condition next week in one of my bedrooms - I am here in Greece for the summer. The unit is a 12K BTU, costs me 400 Euros, plus the installation which is 120 Euros.
This winter we were below zero Fahrenheit most every night. We went through 4 months below 32⁰ Fahrenheit. Do these heat pumps work when it's that cold?
-40° F is what they said was the low temp at which the refrigerant no longer works. That’s *72* *degrees* BELOW freezing and *40* *degrees* BELOW 0° Fahrenheit. Unless you live in Siberia or Antarctica it probably wouldn’t be a problem.
No, remember propaganda builds profits truth would not. Shame on PBS for not showing the entire truth.
Jaimie - you can talk to a local HVAC contractor but it is highly unlikely you can get by with a heat pump without supplemental heat. Technically heat pumps "work" at temps above -40f but the reality is the amount of heat produced at those temps is inadequate to heat a house. You would have to drastically oversize the heat pump or add supplemental heat. I looked into this for a rental condo I have.
There is a huge cost saving if you just use a heat pump and no supplemental heat which is probably what the slum lord and the blocpower hustler in Detroit in this video are counting on. However if you have a cold winter you just might need to use the oven to keep yourself from freezing just like back in the day. The landlord and blocpower are going to be in a pile of trouble if one of their elderly tenants freezes to death.
I live in New Hampshire....do they "work" at low temps yes...but below 10F you'll be surprised how little heat you will get from your average sized heat pump. The real problem is a homes heat loss. You really need to insulate a home if your going to run a heat pump in cold climates. Or have a supplemental heat source.
I live in Northern New Brunswick 🇨🇦 we get -24C, but one secret to heat pumps is location in your house, but summer months works as an air conditioner. I also have a wood/electric force air furnace but mainly run the heat pump. I like the heat pumps.
Good work
This is NOT a one size fit's all problem...
Heat pumps run on electrictity and where do we here in New England get the majority of our electric from, burning NG, and where do we get most of our NG from...Putin's Russia. Last year Eversource here in NH raised our rate by 112%...plus heat pumps don't work too well at -20F with a -30F wind chill. Up here it's much better to better insulate your home.
Heat pumps might be great...depending on your situation and your location.
nice. i'm getting 30k BTUs of Mitsubishi hyper heats installed in my house tomorrow.
Heat Pumps run on electricity. Where do you get the electricity ? Coal power plants ? Oil Power plants ? Now if there were wind & solar power generators on the roofs .
Yes. It goes together. Efficient efforts that lower energy demands, and heating/cooling which uses the most of our buildings’ electricity. Also switch to renewables, although it is already progress to lower energy demand and that can give our grids some ease
How come we don’t just shovel coal into a fire pit anymore to run things? Oh, it’s about efficiency.
@@Maverickgouda Heat pumps run on electrictity and where do we here in New England get the majority of our electric from, burning NG, and where do we get most of our NG from...Putin's Russia. Last year Eversource here in NH raised our rate by 112%...plus they don't work too well at -20F with a -30F wind chill. Up here it's much better to better insulate your home.
so build more solar.. seems obvious with how cheap and getting better yearly
@@dertythegrower Solar and wind make you more reliant on gas, oil, coal and nuclear to be there instantaneously when they go down. That's the problem, intermittancy.
Тепловой насос эффективен только в межсезонье, в зонах с холодным климатом и низкой температурой зимой у него низкий КПД, и никто не учитывает постоянные утечки хладагентов а также высокую стоимость установки, эксплуатации и утилизации, большой вред производства такого оборудования и фреонов, так же нужна электроэнергия. Вывод: нужно придумать что то ещё или просто жить в теплом климате и не строить огромные мегаполисы в холодном климате..
Heat pumps start petering out at 32 F , at -40 you’d freeze to death.
I’m no expert, but from what I’ve read there are cold climate heat pumps (as opposed to what’s called "air source’ heat pumps) , which is what the description of those in the video sound like, that work at much colder temperatures. They’re popular and used in Norway, for example.
Heat pumps should be illegal in northern states. They can't keep up they run continuously and whoever says this is a good option is a liar
@@joonzville You're talking about ground source heat pumps and they require pipes buried in the ground and are expensive af for a retrofit. This video is very dishonest in regard to how low a temp an air source heat pump will work. They will work to -40 but the heat produced is so small you would have to drastically oversize them or add supplemental electric heat which is expensive if you don't have a solar array and battery setup (which is expensive again). I do feel sorry for the tenants of these slumlord hustlers in Detroit - someone is going to freeze to death.
Wow... interesting...
Still need outside electricity to run.
We need fuel, gas or oil to run the electric grid which is overloaded now. Bad idea to add more stress with EVs and Heat pumps.
Think of the rackets....gas theives....repair/protection rackets....over taxing/regulating/pro-gas legislation
Heat pumps are powered by electricity, what happens when there’s a were cut in winter?
Hmmm.. NOVA failed to mention that most of the electricity that powers the heat pumps comes from.....fossil fuels. 🤫
Lol yikes
True, but large-scale fossil plants are way more efficient than small residential heating boilers.
@@Tmanaz480 true. But NOVAs failure to mention this is disingenuous as best, willful omission at worst.
THE ONLY 'GREEN' ELECTRIC IS NUCLEAR. HOW DO YOU LEAVE THIS OUT.
Gross. Landlords being treated like some sort of community service - they're leeches.
Thieves
The heat pumps they are installing won't be adequate to protect from freezing in Detroit winters. someone is going to freeze to death or burn the building down running an oven for heat.
I hate all banks
IT helps, but transportation, manufacturing and military weapons cause the vast majority of pollution.
13% of CO2 emissions in the US are from residential/commercial buildings, primarily for heating, cooling and lighting. This is the 4th largest contributor. If you add the percentage for generating the electricity used by these buildings (and all electricity production accounts for 25% of CO2), then the share for residential/commercial goes up considerably. Transportation is around 28% and industry is around 23% (and if electricity generation is added to industry, its share goes up a lot, too).
We need to reduce ALL sources of CO2 if we want keep this planet half-way livable for ourselves and our children. We’re already too late to prevent some of the disaster that’s barreling down the tracks at us.
@@joonzville Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me, seems like both
@@Keepskatin Clarifying, mostly, and pointing out the knock on effect of reducing electricity production’s 25% by improving different buildings’ 13%.
BTW, where did you get the stat that military weapons are such a large contributor? The only thing I found said that all of the DOD is responsible for around 1% of emissions and if you added in the manufacturing of their ‘tools’ in the civilian sector, it brought it up to 2%.
@@joonzville Nuclear testing
@@Keepskatin What nuclear testing? I thought the last done was in the 90s.
So, now we have to worry about refrigerate? 🤔🙄
R'ofl...nope not after the last year. I've reduced my elec bill by 70% and have no heat no a/c. Welcome to "green USA". I'm having my heat pump pulled and never again. Heat winter is @58f to keep mom, plants, fish alive...summer...all insulation and solar fans. Summer is 78f and deal with it. Thanks...my mom of 79 really appreciates the summers and the winters. No taxes no fuel. You that want to touch the fireplace...my cold dead hands...God bless
58F? for plants..
ha, nope. What are you even typing.. 🙈
BS its just a ac runing in revers its STILL useing eletricty to run
Pump it to where? Lol
It just moves heat from the outside air to the inside air, or a reverse air conditioner to put it simply. No overall loss or gain of heat, it's just moving it.
My gas never goes out and the gov cant turn it off.
Where does your gas come from?
Gas powered cell phone?
Prophethood will remain amongst you for as long as Allah wishes. Then Allah will remove it whenever He wishes to remove it, and there will be a caliphate upon the prophetic methodology. Muhammad Qasim is Mahdi
Why do save money by spending what you don’t have? 🤔😆🙄
How keeping very effective and economical natural gas appliances can help struggling citizens to not pay massive sums of money for heat pumps.
BS