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I think the mobility question is not as clear cut than you suggest and I think in terms of air mobility Himars loses unless all you have is C130. The MLRS actually comes ahead in strategic mobility if you count the number of tubes, since MLRS has twice the number of launcher modules. Probably where MLRS falls short would be sustainment over the medium to long term. Himars probably has better operational mobility (you can drive it from one side of the AO to the other faster or toss it into a C130) , but worse tactical mobility (Himars probbly can't cross bad ground as well as MLRS). So 4 himars in your C5 Gives 24 tubes, whereas the 3 MLRS gives you 36 tubes. Or 3 Himnars in a C17 gives you 18 tubes versus 24 with 2 MLRS. Edit: I made my comment at around 3:36 - you do cover the number of tubes a bit later, but I still think the statement about strategic mobility is overly simplified.
Little error : 2:58 the symbol for himars battalion is "Wheeled multiple rocket launcher", it is different from MLRS. Do we know if an M270 can be transported by the European A400M?
Excellent video! I served as a MLRS/HIMARS artilleryman for 8 years with three operational deployments and I couldn't have done a better job explaining it.
What explanation?! There is nearly no explanation as to how its tactically and strategically used. Very bad disappointing video. I expect some good explanations how they are utilised. What their stength and weaknesses are in different scenarios, How the military makes up for those. What combinations or force multipliers are there, Et cetera so on and on. If someone is knowledgable in these tactics and such would be able to make a compelling case of how they are utilised and he could explain all those fine details I would expect from a "excellent video". But maybe I have different standards and expectations as you, I prefer more engaging and thought provoking content wich really goes into the details. This was just boring, underwhelming and disappointing to say the least. But what ever
@@Kenny-yl9pc You think you can explain it better? OP did a great job. And SkillyJ who is TRAINED on these (8 Years service) commented that he did a great job!
As someone who lives in the Denver Metro area in Colorado, those range graphs are particularly astonishing! I always thought the 40-min drive from Aurora to Golden was a looong way for my aging car, but seeing that sort of distance be small-potatoes for HIMARS munitions really puts the capabilities of these things into perspective
Fun fact, to load a HIMARS onto a C-130, not only you need to fold the rear viewing mirrors of the vehicle, you also had depressurized the tire so that HIMARS has the height clearance.
I served in 3 of the 4 batteries in 5/11, USMC. Its fun to see my job that was relatively obscure become noteworthy in the news and popular media. We did some more advanced combined arms training in Hokkaido with the JSDF and it was great to see how they train their airborne. I'm confident they will hold their own if something happens.
Also a minor note, some national guard maneuver enhancement brigades (MEB) also have some loose rocket artillery battalions, but I imagine in combat they would actually be integrated into a field artillery brigade command just MEBs are for providing rear area security to divisions.
Also note when the video was finished the Ukrainian offensive in the south was just rumors and we still don't know the extent of gains as of publishing. But if the offensive is particularly successful, HIMARS undoubtedly set the conditions for success.
Apparently the German MARS system (modified M270 platform) is designed specifically to be used to automatically fire as counter battery. The crew does nothing other then set up ready to launch and the command network engages the platform and fires it for counter battery.
Indian Pinaka MLRS system does the same when used in conjunction with the Swathi Weapons Locating Radar and the Shakti Artillery Command and Control System. Maybe this is why Armenia bought the Swathi radars earlier and have now bought Pinaka MLRS also, from India.
Holy crap! You're half Japanese? Me too, and I also had an uncle on the Japanese side fought with the 442nd Infantry. I had another uncle from the Japanese side that joined the USMC on December 4th, 1941. Yes, really. I have seen his enlistment papers. He was later on the USS Missouri during the signing of the surrender, as part of Douglas MacArthur's group. I believe he did battalion level intelligence work, probably translating captured maps or documents, or interviewing the few Japanese prisoners that were taken. Crazy times.
Historically, I think many of us feel the war in parallel. We can remember the Japanese side and the American side. We're on both sides. Obviously we remember the American side more because of Hollywood, but there are Japanese movies and anime that bring the Japanese side to life as well. I think it's much harder to think of the Germans as "us" in WW2. The Germans were definitely "them".
Thank you for your uncle's service in the 442 RCT. My Mom was a US Army RM. She took care of wounded soldiers in Italy. Said the troops from the 442 never came in with minor wounds. They ALWAYS came in "shot to pieces". Brave men, great warriors. They never complained.
The quality animations are super helpful, especially the munition illustrations and animation of the off-boresight firing. Great to see, come a long way since the early Rifle Platoon videos. Bravo!
MLRS was originally 3 / 12. In the late ‘90s we went to 3 / 9. With the advent of the focus back on LSCO we are simply going back to pre-OIF / OEF structures. There is also a great deal of debate on tactical mobility. Generally, Anywhere a HIMARS can go, an M270 can go. The inverse is not true at all. The mobility of M270 lends itself to operating in more diverse terrain. One rotation to JMRC and seeing wheeled vehicles stuck in the mud plays this out.
@@stephenpaulmccarter4160 Lol. 21 year 13M / 13Z. Thank junior. Rather have tracks for mobility than getting stuck in every shallow mud hole. Was there when the original HIMARS took a hydraulic dump at the Pentagon. Further, my comment clearly says “generally.” An M270 can get to firing and hide sites a HIMARS can not; especially during monsoon seasons and winter. When all the bridges are blown and you have to use the low water crossing you will be glad to have tracks.
@@stephenpaulmccarter4160 And for general observation, the two rocket artillery BNs in Korea (a great deal of mountainous terrain) are both, and have been for decades now, M270A1. There is a reason for that and it all has to do with mobility, survivability, and volume of fires. When the balloon goes up and the roads are filled with cars and / or debris, M270 will roll over it or can take more of a beating to move crap out of the way. You would not dare try the same in a HIMARS.
Cool video. I understand a large part of your audience is interested in the force structure but this is a more general video while still including force structure and I think it’s a nice balance. Thanks for the hard work.
So proud of the Ukrainian Warfighters and of my HIMARS and MLRS systems!!! I was a Battalion Master Gunner for a HIMARS Battalion, 22 years of service and I have fired the M270 and M142 on Three Continents and during combat operations . I wish I could tell you more about the capabilities and firepower that some of the family of munitions that these MLRS Platforms can use! But I have signed NDAs and not at liberty to say….. these systems are amazing! I have also trained Ukrainians in the past several years and I can’t tell you how proud I am of the men and women of Ukraine that are fighting! The were the smartest, most motivated, and most willing to learn that I have ever trained. So happy to see them fight the way they do!! I hope they keep giving Russia what they deserve!!! Slava Ukraini🇺🇦!!!
"Giving Russia what they deserve" They're only doing what Obama asked them to do. They invaded Ukraine to help cover up Democrat corruption in the country, and now that information is being held for ransom by the current administration in Ukraine.
I love how Russia has spent the last decade bragging about how this or that weapon system they've developed is on par or superior to western equivalents, yet they often take a massive beating whenever they face American tech. That's a big reason why China doesn't want to sell Russia anything major. When it comes to rocket/missile artillery Russia and China have long claimed to have superior artillery but Russia is repeatedly getting their day ruined by counter battery fire and getting high value targets hit by things like HIMARS
Guided ground to ground missiles have always been seen as secondary importance because their missions are mostly carried out by air strikes. It’s good that the conflict in Ukraine has woken NATO up to the possibility of fighting under contested airspace, and guided missiles have proven to be useful under those combat conditions.
Missiles are better for time sensitive targets, you can launch a missile in under a minute and it flies at 1900 miles per hour with no requirement for ATO scheduling, SEAD, etc. It just flies to the target and kills it. Having been in MLRS and helicopter AV units there is no comparison to the speed involved.
Ukraine has been a brutal wake up call. Our intelligence proved competent, but our political calculus was an objective failure. We knew when the Russians were coming, we did not know they would be until it was too late to do anything about it... We assumed Air Power and SEAD would define the war, but modern SAM is simply too good. It's likely the losses even from a competent SEAD like the US method would be unsustainable and inevitably work back down to the low activity state we see in Ukraine, where you take opportunities created by ground forces. Artillery is king again. NATO doctrine did not emphasize multi-layer infantry and informal militias. These proved VASTLY superior in terms of efficiency in Ukraine. With ancient weapons, Minimal supplies, and basic intel they managed to essentially fully stop a Russian offensive. NATO would have formed a defensive line which may not have been able to fight so sustainably, and definitely would have taken MASSIVE casualties. Our method is that SpecForce does all that kind of stuff, but to be blunt, they're not really cheap or efficient. Losing a squad of TDF is negligible in terms of replacement... Losing a Seal Team is a disaster. As the war goes on we will see more things like this. Hopefully NATO stays on it's toes and never repeats the tragedies of the world wars, where ignorance created untold death and failure.
@@RobinTheBot special forces trains militias and local defense units of random civilians with cheap weapons, thats basically the whole point, those units are just not officially part of natos force structure. if we were fighting in eastern europe you can bet 10th group would be having a field day
@@RobinTheBot The U.S. has been training the Ukrainians since 2014 for this exact war.. They are using textbook NATO tactics in many cases.. the U.S. has units especially trained in guerilla warfare with local resistance. You are completely ignorant on how much influence U.S. training and intelligence has influenced this war. And Russias failure to establish air superiority is an indication of their lack of training and poor doctrine, not a complete indictment of all air tactics especially not the U.S. which use completely different methods and technology. Your whole comment is an ignorant surface level view of the conflict from someone clearly uniformed on actual U.S. tactics and capabilities.
This. I see the HIMARS as a near-replacement for strategic bombing. The range is so good that you can send a few HIMARS out and destroy high-value targets using a low-trained crew. Extremely versatile, meaning strategic bombing need only be done for very distant targets. Cheaper, faster deployment in-theater, with a crew that can be trained in no time. Once in theater, a bomber would be faster for hitting long-range targets. There is a lot of dynamic trade space here. The Venn diagram for HIMARS vs bombers is something the generals can't ignore.
I served as a 13M M270A1 gunner with the 75th FA under 2-18. Launchers have been such a niche and unsung fighting force, it's good to get some exposure. A lot of people don't even know we exist!
I was MLRS in the 80s and 90's and NO ONE knew what MLRS was lol. I actually helped to field 1-77 at Ft Sill, the last brand new battalion straight off the assembly line, only newer than 2-18!
Ukraine is really bringing these gems into the spotlight. Normally the US military would use bombers or Wild Weasel attacks to strike strategic targets further in, but Ukraine doesn't have that option so much. HIMARS, time to shine. You're up! I haven't heard too much about MLRS in Ukraine because the HIMARS is hogging up all the limelight. They're probably there too, doing the job.
I discovered your channel during the Pandemic...and as a Disabled Marine (93-2002), I spend LOT of time on the minutia of a Battle Order or 5 paragraph order. In the ever changing environment of Technology and Military Application there of, it is incredibly difficult to stay on top of, not only TO&E's and munitions, but Tactics and practical employment. Thank you for helping me get my Death Nerd ON and stay on top of this ever changing scene of the world!!! YUT!!! KILL!!! Semper Fi
There was new footage this morning of more strikes in the Antonovsky Bridge, the pontoon bridge and the ferry. I can only assume such accurate strikes came from the HIMARS
@@baneofbanes This video is a few weeks old. There was some lag time between deploying HIMARS and territorial gains. A couple long-distance strikes on an ammo depot or a train junction really messes with Russian logistics. The Russians can't fight back. Spite bombing Kiev doesn't count. As Ukraine gobbles up huge chunks of land, that puts more deep Russian logistics within range. The HIMARS range is so great it's almost like having a strategic bomber. Kinda close enough if you're willing to wait a week or two.
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I appreciate that ad for MyHeritage since you mentioned your family's connection to the 442nd (GO FOR BROKE!). My mom's family is from northern Japan but immigrated here in the 80s so I don't have a grandparent who was here during the war. Also, HIMARS is a fascinating tech,
Thanks for the videos! Very educational love the range metrics displayed directly on a real world map for comparison - it's mind boggling! I also wanna thank for the service to all former and/or current US, UK or Commonwealth servicemen and women. Respect from your humble NATO ally - Bulgaria (my father served in the artillery back in his days)
Excellent video. The stats for the weapons themselves are easy to find online, but the details you provide regarding tactics and logistics are very valuable. Also, I wasn't aware of the off-axis capability of the GMLRS. This certainly provides an extra degree of survivability compared to self-propelled howitzers. Subscribed.
The Germans also still use MLRS (in the 'MARS' (Mittleres Artillerie-Raketensystem=Medium Rocket Artillery System) configuration) and the French and Norwegians used to employ them as well and have their old systems in storage.
The Russians have their "precision rocket artillery" but it's very low precision compared to HIMARS. They wasted a bunch of them blowing up apartment buildings and hospitals, showing off I suppose. An expensive waste of time that only solidified NATO against them for attacking civilian targets.
Denmark sold it's 12 M270 to Finland in 2013, never been fired and they got them for less than 10% of the price to buy them, only 15 years old systems.
I enjoyed the hell out of this video, and I love that you so thoroughly explored their capabilities and uses in different countries, touching on the situation in Ukraine, as well as their limitations. While I agree that Ukraine could certainly use more close-fire support, their big issue for a while was that Russia easily had a massive advantage by sheer quantity. I don't know if we could ever find enough tube artillery and the like to help them go blow-for-blow in that kind of engagement. But that's where HIMARS and MLRS have really shined imo. With them, Ukraine doesn't at all have to engage with all that scary Russian artillery if they don't want to, because they're busy killing command centers and ammunition depots and making moving heavy equipment anywhere from a big pain in the rear to damn near impossible in a timely manner. Of course they're picking off enemy artillery whenever they can, but that's not their main purpose.
I was part of the 1/39 in Iraq with bravo from Oklahoma. The part he says about being in front is true. We didn't have any protection other then a 10s and helicopters. There were times we had to stop for the tanks and inf to show show bc we were getting Hit from every side.
That’s so cool about ur heritage! My grandpa’s family was interned by the us government during wwii because of their Japanese ancestry, but my grandfather served with the military intelligence service (MIS) as a Japanese linguist
Currently serving in the one of the mentioned NG FABs. We’re a mixed brigade; 1 battalion tube and 1 battalion HIMARS. The HIMARS guys get all the funding, equipment, supply priority etc etc while the tube battalion will sit on deadlined vehicles for over year because HIMARS have priority. I’m on the tube side if it wasn’t clear. It’s really frustrating and I think that’s never talked about in circles above battery level.
Sometimes you're the pigeon, sometimes the statue. Before GLMRS they had the huge logistical requirement, now they seal off the battlefield for your grunts. At some point with cheaper precision ammo you will get your fair share again, ibwouldbassune it's always a bit cyclical.
First time viewer comments. Brilliant. Subscribed, liked, commenting. Graphics are fabulous and the material looks well-researched. I look forward to viewing others in your uploaded episodes. Thanks for the extra effort!
Your videos are great. This is the kind of info that you normally only get from research or from working with these systems personally. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this great video! Which good to know the MTLS is not retried I thought it was... And the inclusion of what they can't do was nice... Which I find it odd that the Rocket/Missile artillery is the one with the tubes. But the Howitzer/Artillery is nicked named Tube artillery as it's the one with the barrels and in small arms at least there is a big difference.
Love this. 2 things: 1, is there somewhere I can see a breakdown ofnthe map shown at 17:05? I know this is battlefield organization basically, but would like more info on how to read it/what assets are where. 2, a comparisons on how the Russians uses their MLRS systems would be interesting. They have a wider variety of them (From smerch trucks all the way to TOS) so I assume they fundamentally use them differently in some ways. Thanks again for the amazing content :)
www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/Hot-Spots/docs/NEBF/AFC-Pam-71-20-1.pdf This pdf has some neat graphics putting it in the "Multi-Domain 2028" context. Mainly about how distances are increasing
This was great. One of my closest friends served with one of the first HIMARS Battalions in the Army. So he was able to serve on both platforms. Do you think you could do a video on the organization of a Naval Mobile Construction Battalion (NMCB/SEABEEs)?
Excellent video, probably the best I've found on youtube explaining HIMARS in detail. However, I'd like to see an update version of this video regarding the conflict in Ukraine because of this part -> "This hasn'd led to massive ukrainian territorial gains". Since september (after this video was published) Ukraine gained lots of territory, both in the Kharkyv and Kherson area, and I imagine HIMARS and MLRS had contributed greatly for this.
Great video; Boy, I’m sure glad there wasn’t a test at the end, lots of information in 21 minutes.😮 The biggest eye opener for an old student of WW2 land warfare tactics is the amount of rocket artillery vs. tube artillery on the modern battlefield. Hang in there Ukraine.
Looking at the organization things have definitely changed since I was in(2000-2006). Another comment says MLRS was originally 3/12 and went to 3/9 but my unit was 3/18(we may have been an aberration like everything else at Ft. Sill), three line batteries, each with two platoons of three launchers. We could never decide if we wanted a dedicated ammo platoon or if the firing platoons had ammo sections, but we had 2 trucks and trailers for each launcher, so we had a ton of ammo guys. My brigade got disbanded shortly after I got out and the battalion was folded into 75th Fires BDE and transitioned to HIMARS shortly after that. At the strategic level(again, at the time I was in), Ft. Sill had 4 brigades of artillery, each with three battalions(usually a mix of guns and MLRS except for 214 BDE which was the only MLRS pure brigade in the Army). Each brigade would support a division (214 BDE[can you guess what unit I was in?] supported 4 ID), each battalion would support a Brigade Combat Team in that division and each battery would support one of their battalions. The War on Terror flipped all of that on its head since we weren't practicing for large-scale cold war-style fights anymore. After the initial invasion of Iraq it seemed like there wasn't much of a role for MLRS, at least not for my battalion. They started training us as truck drivers and then as firefinder radar operators (with deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan as radar operators) before the reorganization mentioned above. It's neat to see how the platform and the organization are continually evolving to meet the Army's future needs.
japan have type 75 and type 99 155mm self-propelled howitzers in their artillery no? They have also started procuring type 19 truck howitzer. Are they somehow not in either hokkaido or kyushu?
Yeah but Type 99 and 75ss are direct support artillery in the divisional and brigade artillery regiments in Hokkaido, rather than the high level artillery brigade. Type 19 will probably be the SPG option for the rest of Japan where everyone is riding wheelies
In the Bundeswehr, there are no separate MLRS bataillons. Instead, there are four mixed artillery bataillons which each include 2 or 3 PzH2000 howitzer batteries as well as one MLRS rocket artillery battery. In total, there are 41 MLRS launchers which are currently being upgraded to the MARS 2 standard, allowing them to fire M31 missiles. The Bundeswehr doesn‘t have a more longer-ranged missile right now, but the armed forces are looking at either a ground-to-ground variant of the Taurus KEPD-350 cruise missile or a completely new launcher capable of firing up to 8(!) 300+ km range ballistic missiles at once. Overall, the Bundeswehr in theory has some high-quality artillery pieces, but quantity is the major issue. In the 1980s, there were over 1100 howitzers and 400 MLRS in service ... and now we are down to 120 PzH2000 and 41 MLRS.
One interesting thing to point out in Ukraine context, is Ukrainian tactics of firing HIMARS alongside Grad dumb rockets, to fool Russian anti-missile systems and hope they're will target less valuable dumb rockets, instead of HIMARS missiles
6:12 Because OF COURSE TFG would do that fuckshit. He thought reversing this order would curry favor from the military, giving them permission to be a cruel and brutal as they want, Geneva Convention be damned. But it's hilarious to know that his little move had minimal to no effect as the particular munition was pretty much discontined.
The first part is weird, it talks about how MLRS consumes more and fewer can be airlift in the same cargo, but later it tells that these carry double the payload so MLRS is actually more mobile compact/efficient/etc
" Comrade commissar, why are we using Smerch instead of real MLRS?" "BECAUSE REAL MLRS ARE VALUABLE, IN FACT, THEYRE WORTH A LOT MORE THAN YOU ARE!" "O-of course, comrade commissar, m-my mistake."
@@tomvobbe9538 ну вообще-то российские смерчи очень точные и стоят даже выше хайрмаса да и бьют они дальше чем хаймарс. В жилых домах, больницах и школах сидят ВСУ которые смерчи как раз и уничтожают. Если вы слушаете украинскую пропаганду это ваши проблемы да и про мирняк не вам говорить. ВСУ хаймарсами уничтожили СИЗО в Еленовке где сидели пленные ВСУ. (Кстати смерчи и ураган это разные РСЗО)
You don't seem like someone who has seen the kind of rocket artillery the Chinese field. We might be the only ones worried about it given we actually share a land border with the Chinese. Our own Army is about to go on a massive MLRS expansion right now, all domestically built.
@@WynnofThule Really dude? You don't follow why I wrote that in reply to your comment that talks about a Chinese historical figure lamenting about HIMARS? I am alluding to the fact that Chinese are in the exact reverse position to what you described and maybe you don't know about it because only those that share a land border or others like Taiwan who are close to the Chinese mainland would be worried about them. . I mean I get you wrote a joke, but I was simply highlighting the irony of it.
I was part of the BN S-6 for 1-38FA Bn, 210FA Bde in Korea. We always joked about how our guys wouldn’t have time for reloads anyway due to the amount of NK arty. When NK got ICBM’s we were set up in our position and they flew a fucking drone over us!
It would be very cool if you could give a break down on combat aviation brigades and the large amount of supporting units and logistics needed to keep even a single assault helicopter battalion functioning
True, knowing about how its done in US forces would give a great insight into what kind of expansion would be needed in Indian Army to support the ongoing expansion of the Army Aviation Corps.
The one thing allot of people don't realise when pointing out the lack of carrying capacity of the HIMARS when comparing it to more traditional MLRS systems is that its ammunition is so accurate, there is no need to launch shed loads of it to ensure target destruction, so why carry around 20 rockets when 1 will do the job.
Man i would love to see the Organisation of the german light infantry called "Jäger" to the medium infantry in the future. And Especially from the Fox and Dingo to the boxer. First attempt
Damn op/sec, TH-camrs need content (sarcasm). Thanks for telling potential enemies where the support crews are is by telling the world where the 2nd firing position is going to be. Counter batteries cannot react fast enough to the HIMARS but they can pepper the likely fire positions before the HIMARS gets reloaded.
yeah, worryingly accurate in a couple parts. i think it'd be neat if no times for firing/reacting or distance of reload points/etc were included because Russian intelligence might do a worse job articulating such things than a well produced youtube video in the public domain.
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Will u do a video on Panzerkeil?
I think the mobility question is not as clear cut than you suggest and I think in terms of air mobility Himars loses unless all you have is C130.
The MLRS actually comes ahead in strategic mobility if you count the number of tubes, since MLRS has twice the number of launcher modules. Probably where MLRS falls short would be sustainment over the medium to long term. Himars probably has better operational mobility (you can drive it from one side of the AO to the other faster or toss it into a C130) , but worse tactical mobility (Himars probbly can't cross bad ground as well as MLRS).
So 4 himars in your C5 Gives 24 tubes, whereas the 3 MLRS gives you 36 tubes. Or 3 Himnars in a C17 gives you 18 tubes versus 24 with 2 MLRS.
Edit: I made my comment at around 3:36 - you do cover the number of tubes a bit later, but I still think the statement about strategic mobility is overly simplified.
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Little error : 2:58 the symbol for himars battalion is "Wheeled multiple rocket launcher", it is different from MLRS. Do we know if an M270 can be transported by the European A400M?
Excellent video! I served as a MLRS/HIMARS artilleryman for 8 years with three operational deployments and I couldn't have done a better job explaining it.
Right on!
What explanation?! There is nearly no explanation as to how its tactically and strategically used. Very bad disappointing video. I expect some good explanations how they are utilised. What their stength and weaknesses are in different scenarios, How the military makes up for those. What combinations or force multipliers are there, Et cetera so on and on. If someone is knowledgable in these tactics and such would be able to make a compelling case of how they are utilised and he could explain all those fine details I would expect from a "excellent video". But maybe I have different standards and expectations as you, I prefer more engaging and thought provoking content wich really goes into the details. This was just boring, underwhelming and disappointing to say the least. But what ever
@@Kenny-yl9pc thats literally the last quarter of the video my man
@@Kenny-yl9pc You think you can explain it better? OP did a great job. And SkillyJ who is TRAINED on these (8 Years service) commented that he did a great job!
@@tbrowniscool, Kenny didn’t understand the video.
In British service the M270 MLRS used to be known as the General Support Rocket System, or colloquially, Grid Square Removal System.
I love it.
"Dear Grid Coordinates, ...
Sincerely, MLRS"
As someone who lives in the Denver Metro area in Colorado, those range graphs are particularly astonishing! I always thought the 40-min drive from Aurora to Golden was a looong way for my aging car, but seeing that sort of distance be small-potatoes for HIMARS munitions really puts the capabilities of these things into perspective
Fun fact, to load a HIMARS onto a C-130, not only you need to fold the rear viewing mirrors of the vehicle, you also had depressurized the tire so that HIMARS has the height clearance.
and remove 201 Antennas
That makes sense I was angry when I saw a deflated tire in the video 😀
So you're saying it's a pain in the butt. Not ideal, but certainly doable.
@@protorhinocerator142 yeah, C-17s are the preferred way of transport, you just have to tie down the antennas so the load master doesn't get cranky
You can see how flat the tires are in the clip used in the video
I served in 3 of the 4 batteries in 5/11, USMC. Its fun to see my job that was relatively obscure become noteworthy in the news and popular media. We did some more advanced combined arms training in Hokkaido with the JSDF and it was great to see how they train their airborne. I'm confident they will hold their own if something happens.
Thankyou for ur service and protecting the United States of America#Boston Mass
Denver will never know peace in the Battle Order universe.
Btw the Antonovskiy Bridge in Kherson is 25 meters wide, well within HIMARS's accuracy (
Also a minor note, some national guard maneuver enhancement brigades (MEB) also have some loose rocket artillery battalions, but I imagine in combat they would actually be integrated into a field artillery brigade command just MEBs are for providing rear area security to divisions.
Also note when the video was finished the Ukrainian offensive in the south was just rumors and we still don't know the extent of gains as of publishing. But if the offensive is particularly successful, HIMARS undoubtedly set the conditions for success.
@@BattleOrder Do you have a video about the difference between tactical, strategic and operational?
@@ayumalani5631 Not atm but I've been thinking about it.
@@BattleOrder ok
"Incoming fire has the right of way." - Artillery saying
There is two kinds of people. Artillerists and targets.
@@timmteller871 Kind of like the saying there are two types of ships, submarines and targets.
There's no substitute for quality - General view
Quantity is a substitute for quality - Artillery saying
@@jamesr8473 but not to much otherwise the rounds will blow up in our face- artillerist all over the world
Artillery does not know friends or foes, just targets.
Never give your coordinates away, especially to the arty. 😉
Apparently the German MARS system (modified M270 platform) is designed specifically to be used to automatically fire as counter battery. The crew does nothing other then set up ready to launch and the command network engages the platform and fires it for counter battery.
Sounds like they should operate in pairs 1 shoots and scoots the other lurks
@@jamiam23 himars and mars adventures of shield and sword
Indian Pinaka MLRS system does the same when used in conjunction with the Swathi Weapons Locating Radar and the Shakti Artillery Command and Control System. Maybe this is why Armenia bought the Swathi radars earlier and have now bought Pinaka MLRS also, from India.
Holy crap! You're half Japanese? Me too, and I also had an uncle on the Japanese side fought with the 442nd Infantry. I had another uncle from the Japanese side that joined the USMC on December 4th, 1941. Yes, really. I have seen his enlistment papers. He was later on the USS Missouri during the signing of the surrender, as part of Douglas MacArthur's group. I believe he did battalion level intelligence work, probably translating captured maps or documents, or interviewing the few Japanese prisoners that were taken. Crazy times.
Historically, I think many of us feel the war in parallel. We can remember the Japanese side and the American side. We're on both sides.
Obviously we remember the American side more because of Hollywood, but there are Japanese movies and anime that bring the Japanese side to life as well.
I think it's much harder to think of the Germans as "us" in WW2. The Germans were definitely "them".
oh no… what… what did the uncle do?
@@protorhinocerator142especially interesting anime Barefoot Gen
Thank you for your uncle's service in the 442 RCT. My Mom was a US Army RM. She took care of wounded soldiers in Italy. Said the troops from the 442 never came in with minor wounds. They ALWAYS came in "shot to pieces". Brave men, great warriors. They never complained.
Ah,the cigarette bud dispenser causing all the "fire" in Russian airfields and ammo depo
The quality animations are super helpful, especially the munition illustrations and animation of the off-boresight firing.
Great to see, come a long way since the early Rifle Platoon videos. Bravo!
Improvise adapt overcome
HIMARS tactics:
Step 1: geolocate the ammo depot
Step 2: commence trollege
Alternate step 1: have your MIC sugar daddy geolocate it for you and give you the coordinates
@@jacobdewey2053 even better
@@jacobdewey2053 it's called outsourcing work and we've been doing that for a few decades now lmao
DEPOT SPOTTED
HIMARS *GO!*
or, better yet, prison facility
MLRS was originally 3 / 12. In the late ‘90s we went to 3 / 9. With the advent of the focus back on LSCO we are simply going back to pre-OIF / OEF structures.
There is also a great deal of debate on tactical mobility. Generally, Anywhere a HIMARS can go, an M270 can go. The inverse is not true at all. The mobility of M270 lends itself to operating in more diverse terrain. One rotation to JMRC and seeing wheeled vehicles stuck in the mud plays this out.
Wrong a 270 is not great for mountainous regions and himars are more mobile than 270s
@@stephenpaulmccarter4160 Lol. 21 year 13M / 13Z. Thank junior. Rather have tracks for mobility than getting stuck in every shallow mud hole. Was there when the original HIMARS took a hydraulic dump at the Pentagon. Further, my comment clearly says “generally.” An M270 can get to firing and hide sites a HIMARS can not; especially during monsoon seasons and winter. When all the bridges are blown and you have to use the low water crossing you will be glad to have tracks.
@@stephenpaulmccarter4160 And you will get there with twice as much payload.
@@stephenpaulmccarter4160 And for general observation, the two rocket artillery BNs in Korea (a great deal of mountainous terrain) are both, and have been for decades now, M270A1. There is a reason for that and it all has to do with mobility, survivability, and volume of fires. When the balloon goes up and the roads are filled with cars and / or debris, M270 will roll over it or can take more of a beating to move crap out of the way. You would not dare try the same in a HIMARS.
@@stephenpaulmccarter4160 Don’t be a troll. Tracked vehicles always have greater mobility than wheeled ones.
Cool video. I understand a large part of your audience is interested in the force structure but this is a more general video while still including force structure and I think it’s a nice balance. Thanks for the hard work.
So proud of the Ukrainian Warfighters and of my HIMARS and MLRS systems!!! I was a Battalion Master Gunner for a HIMARS Battalion, 22 years of service and I have fired the M270 and M142 on Three Continents and during combat operations . I wish I could tell you more about the capabilities and firepower that some of the family of munitions that these MLRS Platforms can use! But I have signed NDAs and not at liberty to say….. these systems are amazing! I have also trained Ukrainians in the past several years and I can’t tell you how proud I am of the men and women of Ukraine that are fighting! The were the smartest, most motivated, and most willing to learn that I have ever trained. So happy to see them fight the way they do!! I hope they keep giving Russia what they deserve!!! Slava Ukraini🇺🇦!!!
"Giving Russia what they deserve"
They're only doing what Obama asked them to do. They invaded Ukraine to help cover up Democrat corruption in the country, and now that information is being held for ransom by the current administration in Ukraine.
Thank you for your service!🦅🇺🇲 Heroyam slava!
Were you ARNG?
I love how Russia has spent the last decade bragging about how this or that weapon system they've developed is on par or superior to western equivalents, yet they often take a massive beating whenever they face American tech. That's a big reason why China doesn't want to sell Russia anything major.
When it comes to rocket/missile artillery Russia and China have long claimed to have superior artillery but Russia is repeatedly getting their day ruined by counter battery fire and getting high value targets hit by things like HIMARS
I also believe that some of these Himars are from the USMC
Guided ground to ground missiles have always been seen as secondary importance because their missions are mostly carried out by air strikes. It’s good that the conflict in Ukraine has woken NATO up to the possibility of fighting under contested airspace, and guided missiles have proven to be useful under those combat conditions.
Missiles are better for time sensitive targets, you can launch a missile in under a minute and it flies at 1900 miles per hour with no requirement for ATO scheduling, SEAD, etc. It just flies to the target and kills it. Having been in MLRS and helicopter AV units there is no comparison to the speed involved.
Ukraine has been a brutal wake up call. Our intelligence proved competent, but our political calculus was an objective failure. We knew when the Russians were coming, we did not know they would be until it was too late to do anything about it...
We assumed Air Power and SEAD would define the war, but modern SAM is simply too good. It's likely the losses even from a competent SEAD like the US method would be unsustainable and inevitably work back down to the low activity state we see in Ukraine, where you take opportunities created by ground forces. Artillery is king again.
NATO doctrine did not emphasize multi-layer infantry and informal militias. These proved VASTLY superior in terms of efficiency in Ukraine. With ancient weapons, Minimal supplies, and basic intel they managed to essentially fully stop a Russian offensive. NATO would have formed a defensive line which may not have been able to fight so sustainably, and definitely would have taken MASSIVE casualties. Our method is that SpecForce does all that kind of stuff, but to be blunt, they're not really cheap or efficient. Losing a squad of TDF is negligible in terms of replacement... Losing a Seal Team is a disaster.
As the war goes on we will see more things like this. Hopefully NATO stays on it's toes and never repeats the tragedies of the world wars, where ignorance created untold death and failure.
@@RobinTheBot special forces trains militias and local defense units of random civilians with cheap weapons, thats basically the whole point, those units are just not officially part of natos force structure. if we were fighting in eastern europe you can bet 10th group would be having a field day
@@RobinTheBot The U.S. has been training the Ukrainians since 2014 for this exact war.. They are using textbook NATO tactics in many cases.. the U.S. has units especially trained in guerilla warfare with local resistance. You are completely ignorant on how much influence U.S. training and intelligence has influenced this war. And Russias failure to establish air superiority is an indication of their lack of training and poor doctrine, not a complete indictment of all air tactics especially not the U.S. which use completely different methods and technology. Your whole comment is an ignorant surface level view of the conflict from someone clearly uniformed on actual U.S. tactics and capabilities.
This.
I see the HIMARS as a near-replacement for strategic bombing. The range is so good that you can send a few HIMARS out and destroy high-value targets using a low-trained crew.
Extremely versatile, meaning strategic bombing need only be done for very distant targets.
Cheaper, faster deployment in-theater, with a crew that can be trained in no time. Once in theater, a bomber would be faster for hitting long-range targets.
There is a lot of dynamic trade space here. The Venn diagram for HIMARS vs bombers is something the generals can't ignore.
I served as a 13M M270A1 gunner with the 75th FA under 2-18. Launchers have been such a niche and unsung fighting force, it's good to get some exposure. A lot of people don't even know we exist!
I was MLRS in the 80s and 90's and NO ONE knew what MLRS was lol. I actually helped to field 1-77 at Ft Sill, the last brand new battalion straight off the assembly line, only newer than 2-18!
Ukraine is really bringing these gems into the spotlight. Normally the US military would use bombers or Wild Weasel attacks to strike strategic targets further in, but Ukraine doesn't have that option so much.
HIMARS, time to shine. You're up!
I haven't heard too much about MLRS in Ukraine because the HIMARS is hogging up all the limelight. They're probably there too, doing the job.
@@primoxxl71 Our paths may have crossed at one point.
On the Minute!
Tough as diamonds!!!
@@jamiegillispie3414 mis you bb
I discovered your channel during the Pandemic...and as a Disabled Marine (93-2002), I spend LOT of time on the minutia of a Battle Order or 5 paragraph order. In the ever changing environment of Technology and Military Application there of, it is incredibly difficult to stay on top of, not only TO&E's and munitions, but Tactics and practical employment. Thank you for helping me get my Death Nerd ON and stay on top of this ever changing scene of the world!!! YUT!!! KILL!!!
Semper Fi
St Himars blesses the rain down in Kherson.
What did the astronaut say to the big red planet? “HIMARS”
There was new footage this morning of more strikes in the Antonovsky Bridge, the pontoon bridge and the ferry. I can only assume such accurate strikes came from the HIMARS
"This hasn't led to massive Ukrainian territorial gains..."
Ukraine: "Hold my beer."
Still waiting on that territorial gain
@@bryananderson3772 hope this is a joke
@@bryananderson3772 you live under a rock or something?
@@baneofbanes This video is a few weeks old. There was some lag time between deploying HIMARS and territorial gains.
A couple long-distance strikes on an ammo depot or a train junction really messes with Russian logistics. The Russians can't fight back. Spite bombing Kiev doesn't count.
As Ukraine gobbles up huge chunks of land, that puts more deep Russian logistics within range. The HIMARS range is so great it's almost like having a strategic bomber.
Kinda close enough if you're willing to wait a week or two.
@@protorhinocerator142 thing is the Ukrainian liberation of Izium was over a month ago now.
Im so ********* addicted to Battle Order. Thank you for continuing to produce this quality content.
Are you considering doing a video on the US Marine's Force Design 2030?
Possibly a video on Marine Littoral Regiments because a lot of pundits get it wrong
Praise be with Raytheon and Lockmart
Praise be.... praise be....
@@saltymonke3682 amen
This is honestly probably one of my favorite videos by you so far!
Really great video!
I'd love to see an episode going over the USMC 2030 force design
Same
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Again an well crafted and useful video. You channel is setting the standard from which all other military channels will be judged!
I appreciate that ad for MyHeritage since you mentioned your family's connection to the 442nd (GO FOR BROKE!). My mom's family is from northern Japan but immigrated here in the 80s so I don't have a grandparent who was here during the war. Also, HIMARS is a fascinating tech,
Thanks for the videos! Very educational love the range metrics displayed directly on a real world map for comparison - it's mind boggling! I also wanna thank for the service to all former and/or current US, UK or Commonwealth servicemen and women. Respect from your humble NATO ally - Bulgaria (my father served in the artillery back in his days)
Excellent video.
The stats for the weapons themselves are easy to find online, but the details you provide regarding tactics and logistics are very valuable.
Also, I wasn't aware of the off-axis capability of the GMLRS. This certainly provides an extra degree of survivability compared to self-propelled howitzers.
Subscribed.
The Germans also still use MLRS (in the 'MARS' (Mittleres Artillerie-Raketensystem=Medium Rocket Artillery System) configuration) and the French and Norwegians used to employ them as well and have their old systems in storage.
The Russians have their "precision rocket artillery" but it's very low precision compared to HIMARS. They wasted a bunch of them blowing up apartment buildings and hospitals, showing off I suppose. An expensive waste of time that only solidified NATO against them for attacking civilian targets.
plus the Romanians had 1 battalion in 2022, now we have two battalions and are waiting for the third somewhere in 2025.
Blessed be the saint HIMARS
Denmark sold it's 12 M270 to Finland in 2013, never been fired and they got them for less than 10% of the price to buy them, only 15 years old systems.
I enjoyed the hell out of this video, and I love that you so thoroughly explored their capabilities and uses in different countries, touching on the situation in Ukraine, as well as their limitations.
While I agree that Ukraine could certainly use more close-fire support, their big issue for a while was that Russia easily had a massive advantage by sheer quantity. I don't know if we could ever find enough tube artillery and the like to help them go blow-for-blow in that kind of engagement.
But that's where HIMARS and MLRS have really shined imo. With them, Ukraine doesn't at all have to engage with all that scary Russian artillery if they don't want to, because they're busy killing command centers and ammunition depots and making moving heavy equipment anywhere from a big pain in the rear to damn near impossible in a timely manner. Of course they're picking off enemy artillery whenever they can, but that's not their main purpose.
I was part of the 1/39 in Iraq with bravo from Oklahoma. The part he says about being in front is true. We didn't have any protection other then a 10s and helicopters. There were times we had to stop for the tanks and inf to show show bc we were getting Hit from every side.
This is a great video. Comprehensive, clear explanation of the topic. I learned a lot. Thanks!
That’s so cool about ur heritage! My grandpa’s family was interned by the us government during wwii because of their Japanese ancestry, but my grandfather served with the military intelligence service (MIS) as a Japanese linguist
15:52 Russian MoD: "Write that down! Write that down!"
Extremely informative, with details not found elsewhere.
Currently serving in the one of the mentioned NG FABs. We’re a mixed brigade; 1 battalion tube and 1 battalion HIMARS. The HIMARS guys get all the funding, equipment, supply priority etc etc while the tube battalion will sit on deadlined vehicles for over year because HIMARS have priority. I’m on the tube side if it wasn’t clear. It’s really frustrating and I think that’s never talked about in circles above battery level.
Sometimes you're the pigeon, sometimes the statue. Before GLMRS they had the huge logistical requirement, now they seal off the battlefield for your grunts. At some point with cheaper precision ammo you will get your fair share again, ibwouldbassune it's always a bit cyclical.
“There two types of people in this world, artillerymen, and targets”
Very well presented, it gives just enough of an overview to go deeper on specific aspects.
Crazy how humanity made something so hi-tec just to put another person 6 feet under lol
Those video clips of cluster munitions impacting was truly fearsome.
We can now see how the HIMARS definitely allowed them to launch these counter offensives.
Ngl the room reference at the start caught me off guard lmao
First time viewer comments. Brilliant. Subscribed, liked, commenting.
Graphics are fabulous and the material looks well-researched.
I look forward to viewing others in your uploaded episodes. Thanks for the extra effort!
Very good. Research was excellent and presentation was smooth.
Attention, this video is contraindicated for Russian state media users. Other than that it's an excellent video for any normal person.
Your videos are great. This is the kind of info that you normally only get from research or from working with these systems personally. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this great video! Which good to know the MTLS is not retried I thought it was... And the inclusion of what they can't do was nice... Which I find it odd that the Rocket/Missile artillery is the one with the tubes. But the Howitzer/Artillery is nicked named Tube artillery as it's the one with the barrels and in small arms at least there is a big difference.
Denver: Ah shit here we go aga-
Britain wants to double their Mlrs units from 42 to 84 units.
Nice video bro, I currently serve in the IDF artillery corps and I think a video about the IDF would be very interesting. Love your content 🫡
Love this. 2 things:
1, is there somewhere I can see a breakdown ofnthe map shown at 17:05? I know this is battlefield organization basically, but would like more info on how to read it/what assets are where.
2, a comparisons on how the Russians uses their MLRS systems would be interesting. They have a wider variety of them (From smerch trucks all the way to TOS) so I assume they fundamentally use them differently in some ways.
Thanks again for the amazing content :)
www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/Hot-Spots/docs/NEBF/AFC-Pam-71-20-1.pdf This pdf has some neat graphics putting it in the "Multi-Domain 2028" context. Mainly about how distances are increasing
You can also google "division support area", "brigade support area" and "maneuver enhancement brigade" to see how rear areas are structured
@@BattleOrder awesome thanks for both replies.
This was great. One of my closest friends served with one of the first HIMARS Battalions in the Army. So he was able to serve on both platforms.
Do you think you could do a video on the organization of a Naval Mobile Construction Battalion (NMCB/SEABEEs)?
The fact that one of the munitions is literally called "ATTACK 'EMS" is so aggressively American I love it
actually it is "A" TACK-EMS, not like ''ATTACK EM" ...does sound cute though.
That's like the "Ketchum" grenades used during the Civil War, named after Ketchum Kentucky where they were manufactured.
Loading HIMARS: warning, do not drop.
I lost a rib.
Have you seen what is written behind a Claymore?
"Do not eat"
No kidding.
Excellent video, probably the best I've found on youtube explaining HIMARS in detail. However, I'd like to see an update version of this video regarding the conflict in Ukraine because of this part -> "This hasn'd led to massive ukrainian territorial gains". Since september (after this video was published) Ukraine gained lots of territory, both in the Kharkyv and Kherson area, and I imagine HIMARS and MLRS had contributed greatly for this.
Are you ever considering a Video on the Australian military in any way?
Might cover their re-organization
@@BattleOrder maybe you should wait until Land 400 Phase 3 final decision announcement. Probably Q4 of 2022.
Great video; Boy, I’m sure glad there wasn’t a test at the end, lots of information in 21 minutes.😮
The biggest eye opener for an old student of WW2 land warfare tactics is the amount of rocket artillery vs. tube artillery on the modern battlefield. Hang in there Ukraine.
Very informative video. Excellent job done. Please keep up the great work. Thanks 💯
Dude with the radio throwing up deuces as Himars fires is definitely an iconic moment. ✌🏾
Looking at the organization things have definitely changed since I was in(2000-2006). Another comment says MLRS was originally 3/12 and went to 3/9 but my unit was 3/18(we may have been an aberration like everything else at Ft. Sill), three line batteries, each with two platoons of three launchers. We could never decide if we wanted a dedicated ammo platoon or if the firing platoons had ammo sections, but we had 2 trucks and trailers for each launcher, so we had a ton of ammo guys. My brigade got disbanded shortly after I got out and the battalion was folded into 75th Fires BDE and transitioned to HIMARS shortly after that.
At the strategic level(again, at the time I was in), Ft. Sill had 4 brigades of artillery, each with three battalions(usually a mix of guns and MLRS except for 214 BDE which was the only MLRS pure brigade in the Army). Each brigade would support a division (214 BDE[can you guess what unit I was in?] supported 4 ID), each battalion would support a Brigade Combat Team in that division and each battery would support one of their battalions. The War on Terror flipped all of that on its head since we weren't practicing for large-scale cold war-style fights anymore. After the initial invasion of Iraq it seemed like there wasn't much of a role for MLRS, at least not for my battalion. They started training us as truck drivers and then as firefinder radar operators (with deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan as radar operators) before the reorganization mentioned above.
It's neat to see how the platform and the organization are continually evolving to meet the Army's future needs.
japan have type 75 and type 99 155mm self-propelled howitzers in their artillery no? They have also started procuring type 19 truck howitzer. Are they somehow not in either hokkaido or kyushu?
Yeah but Type 99 and 75ss are direct support artillery in the divisional and brigade artillery regiments in Hokkaido, rather than the high level artillery brigade. Type 19 will probably be the SPG option for the rest of Japan where everyone is riding wheelies
6:38 - Please tell us about this "Interial Navigation". I'm sure we'd all love to hear about it.
This channel is likely shown in at least some kind of military classroom somewhere
@Max seems to be working out great for the Ukrainians
Aren’t the Polish military looking to field several battery’s of these things in the near future?
Dude....OUTSTANDING!!!!!
Ngl I heard the music you used in this video and it took me back to my childhood playing Conflict Desert Storm, great times. Great video
Great Video! But i have a question, why didn't you include the German Structure for their M270? Are there no sources? Just out of curiosity.
Limited time. I kind of only threw the Japanese in there because I knew what it was beforehand and it didn't take that long
And thanks!
Ah okay understandable. Thank you for your answer!
In the Bundeswehr, there are no separate MLRS bataillons. Instead, there are four mixed artillery bataillons which each include 2 or 3 PzH2000 howitzer batteries as well as one MLRS rocket artillery battery. In total, there are 41 MLRS launchers which are currently being upgraded to the MARS 2 standard, allowing them to fire M31 missiles. The Bundeswehr doesn‘t have a more longer-ranged missile right now, but the armed forces are looking at either a ground-to-ground variant of the Taurus KEPD-350 cruise missile or a completely new launcher capable of firing up to 8(!) 300+ km range ballistic missiles at once.
Overall, the Bundeswehr in theory has some high-quality artillery pieces, but quantity is the major issue. In the 1980s, there were over 1100 howitzers and 400 MLRS in service ... and now we are down to 120 PzH2000 and 41 MLRS.
@@nichtpeter9589 time to pump those numbers up Hanz! Russians r coming 🤧
Wow this was amazing. If NATO ever fought Russia it would be over in days.
One interesting thing to point out in Ukraine context, is Ukrainian tactics of firing HIMARS alongside Grad dumb rockets, to fool Russian anti-missile systems and hope they're will target less valuable dumb rockets, instead of HIMARS missiles
Also to keep them from finding the HIMARS via Ground radar, fools them into thinking its just GRADS
Great video! Never really thought about how important military structure is. Glad that HIMARS and MLRS are in Ukraine
6:12 Because OF COURSE TFG would do that fuckshit. He thought reversing this order would curry favor from the military, giving them permission to be a cruel and brutal as they want, Geneva Convention be damned. But it's hilarious to know that his little move had minimal to no effect as the particular munition was pretty much discontined.
The first part is weird, it talks about how MLRS consumes more and fewer can be airlift in the same cargo, but later it tells that these carry double the payload so MLRS is actually more mobile compact/efficient/etc
That m26 explosion footage is wild seeing all the bomblets go off. Talk about area denial, and that’s the “weak” one lol
Everyone shook in their boots a little upon seeing the unit flash for the eighth army.
Oh my that “Hi Mars” had me rolling. Hope that catches on.
" Comrade commissar, why are we using Smerch instead of real MLRS?"
"BECAUSE REAL MLRS ARE VALUABLE, IN FACT, THEYRE WORTH A LOT MORE THAN YOU ARE!"
"O-of course, comrade commissar, m-my mistake."
А чем смерч не РСЗО? Он так-то намного лучше хаймарсов. Да и Искандер с калибром никто не отменял
@@Глюп_Глюпов Tornado has no accuracy. At best it blows up some civilian infrastructure. In fact, Russia would be better off using actual tornadoes.
@@tomvobbe9538 ну вообще-то российские смерчи очень точные и стоят даже выше хайрмаса да и бьют они дальше чем хаймарс. В жилых домах, больницах и школах сидят ВСУ которые смерчи как раз и уничтожают. Если вы слушаете украинскую пропаганду это ваши проблемы да и про мирняк не вам говорить. ВСУ хаймарсами уничтожили СИЗО в Еленовке где сидели пленные ВСУ. (Кстати смерчи и ураган это разные РСЗО)
Can't stop them HIMARS man
-Sun Tzu
You don't seem like someone who has seen the kind of rocket artillery the Chinese field. We might be the only ones worried about it given we actually share a land border with the Chinese. Our own Army is about to go on a massive MLRS expansion right now, all domestically built.
@@death_parade what kind of a non sequitur is that?
@@WynnofThule Really dude? You don't follow why I wrote that in reply to your comment that talks about a Chinese historical figure lamenting about HIMARS? I am alluding to the fact that Chinese are in the exact reverse position to what you described and maybe you don't know about it because only those that share a land border or others like Taiwan who are close to the Chinese mainland would be worried about them.
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I mean I get you wrote a joke, but I was simply highlighting the irony of it.
Codex Astartes calls this maneuver Steel Rain.
Damn it, you beat me to it!
We will descend upon the foe. We will overwhelm them, we will leave none alive!
I was part of the BN S-6 for 1-38FA Bn, 210FA Bde in Korea. We always joked about how our guys wouldn’t have time for reloads anyway due to the amount of NK arty. When NK got ICBM’s we were set up in our position and they flew a fucking drone over us!
Shut it airsofter
It would be very cool if you could give a break down on combat aviation brigades and the large amount of supporting units and logistics needed to keep even a single assault helicopter battalion functioning
Could be something for the future!
True, knowing about how its done in US forces would give a great insight into what kind of expansion would be needed in Indian Army to support the ongoing expansion of the Army Aviation Corps.
you had my 'like and subscribe' at the unnecessary "oh hi Mark" a few secs in. respect
Another great video, fantastic work!
The one thing allot of people don't realise when pointing out the lack of carrying capacity of the HIMARS when comparing it to more traditional MLRS systems is that its ammunition is so accurate, there is no need to launch shed loads of it to ensure target destruction, so why carry around 20 rockets when 1 will do the job.
”Oh, HIMARK” veeery funny 😝😂
Man i would love to see the Organisation of the german light infantry called "Jäger" to the medium infantry in the future. And Especially from the Fox and Dingo to the boxer. First attempt
Field Artillery - King of Battle!
I like the low key Tommy Wisseau reference "Oh hi, MARS."
0:13 you really caught me off guard
Damn op/sec, TH-camrs need content (sarcasm). Thanks for telling potential enemies where the support crews are is by telling the world where the 2nd firing position is going to be. Counter batteries cannot react fast enough to the HIMARS but they can pepper the likely fire positions before the HIMARS gets reloaded.
yeah, worryingly accurate in a couple parts. i think it'd be neat if no times for firing/reacting or distance of reload points/etc were included because Russian intelligence might do a worse job articulating such things than a well produced youtube video in the public domain.
"God is on the side with the most artillery"
- Neapolitan Bonaparte
And as of Ukraine right now, God is with Ukraine
🇺🇦🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲
Should be "best artillery" because for all their numerous guns Russia can't establish superiority.
Thanks for this interesting video. Good afternoon from Perú.
Always love to see a new video from you :)
I love the do not drop label on a himars load….you reckon?
If you don't put up the wet floor sign it's your fault when it happens