Props for finding cases of lost media from the more "obscure" countries. They're not nearly talked about enough, and I know researching them can be hard due to language barrier but I think it's worth it.
I remember watching ''Otto-Triin'' and ''Jälle see Jäpe'' as a kid. Estonian children shows in the end of soviet time and in the 90s were all cursed because the puppets/costumes were uncanny as hell...
@sasacc322 Well, it was the norm so it wasn't creepy. When I rewatch stuff from my childhood now I find it uncanny and weird, but I remember that when I watched the same stuff as a kid it didn't feel that way - times have changed and there are way more new stuff with more pleasing aesthetics.
@@ek1889 same, here in the Netherlands we had a kids show called "Wizzy & Woppy". Used to love it as a kid, seeing it now it makes me feel uncomfortable
That and Otto-Trinn isn't a very nice guy. Like, at all. He will always be remembered as a murderer of two people and a convicted kiddie diddler and collector of kiddie no-no pictures and videos.
I actually yelled out loud "OH GOD DAMMIT" at the last part of Otto's segment. It's really really depressing knowing that alot of child entertainers seem to end up going in the route of doing unspeakable things. 😢 Edited this post since saying “most entertainers” is too harsh and not true. There’s a lot that are still good human beings.
MOST????? Seriously??? I’ve not actually heard of that many cases compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who work in the children’s entertainment industry which is gigantic and comprises everything from birthday clowns to Sesame Street
Not to mention... that light sentence?? 5 years, only four months of which are in jail? That is pitiful. Meanwhile, the child he assaulted and the children in those images will be traumatized, in their own mental prison, forever. I hope they at least have the decency to put him on a sex offenders list of some type to ensure he doesn't work with children again.
It's tragic, to be sure, but persons like that are more likely to take jobs where they can have access to children. Ronald William Brown of the former kid's show "Joy Junction" is probably one of the most popular examples.
i can’t believe this came up in my recommendations 45 minutes after it was posted. very exciting. i’m definitely subscribing, your stuff is incredible from the little i’ve already seen
I have an interest in cancelled games but this is the first I hear of Rendition Guantanamo. I honestly never heard of anyone talk about it. It looks interesting, especially the setting. If there is indeed an alpha build I hope it resurface.
I am so glad that I stumbled upon your channel recently. Such good content, you know exactly how to set a tone. Definitely an underrated creator. Can't wait to see where this goes!
honestly, i love hearing about media from estonia, one of my favorites definitely has to be the animated short film "Suur Toll"("Toll the Great"/"Big Toll" in english)
Whoa! I'm 71 years old & shut down Otto because I was afraid it would give me nightmares! I can't believe they let children watch that obscenely creepy thing!
I’ll never understand people who are sensitive about wrong pronunciations. An accent is by definition pronouncing words in a slightly different way, and even people who have been speaking a second language for years still have accents. If someone gets close enough for you to understand them you should appreciate the effort
@@MaliciousChickenAgenda I feel my bones rotting. I sense my cells splitting and dying in the billions. My life is nothing but pain and anguish Other than that, it's been alright 😁
@@dogeggsofficialoh dear that’s not so good 😮 there’s a magical chant you can say to heal - say out loud 3 times- I am the clucka bukka poultry dog egg and I float through the ether on giant puffy rug. That should help
Otto Trinn's history is somewhat like Welcome Home's. A once- popular kid's show being cancelled out of a sudden and with almost no material left of it.
@@Idonthateutoo"How dare people say Simpsons predicted something? They shouldn't compare real tragedies to a cartoon! The creators won't appreciate it."
9:40 WWHAATT?! Bro! I am SO impressed not only for your continued work on vague/rare Lost Media but also KENNETH ANGER! I can’t believe you’re covering L. Rising! So wonderful. Anger was EXCEPTIONALLY talented, never receiving the acclaim and accolades he deserves.
Underrated channel. I know that’s overstated in your comments, but the fact you only have 30k subs is insane. The passion you have to create these videos despite this is inspiring, I wish you well :-)!!
Something told me CP was coming in that first case. I wasnt trying to jump to conclusions, but that event and his comments on said event felt weird. Threw my hands up when it came to light 😂
I thought the same thing and checked the video for a pink outline. There are a few youtubers who make content that is fake but sounds real, and they have the video outlined in pink to show that it’s fake. But this is definitely real, it’s just weird that it didn’t get ANY recognition before like many other show mascots like Ratafak Plachta, Morso, Fofao, etc. who were all popular in the lost media circuit since the 2000s.
That children's cartoon reminds me of that czechoslovakian character who's name I cant spell but translates to "Nosy blanket" Many of the episodes from that show was lost There was also another show known as Pipkins to my knowledge I think that one had lost episodes too.
Otto trin looks pretty disturbing to me even before I learned of the fates of the two producers, I wonder if people did not suspect something was off when they see this creepy dinosaur and things
The story of Otto seemed like an AI generated string of pictures/clips, that's how soulless and scary that suit is. I could not take it seriously for half of it, until it sank in that there was a person behind the suit, equally soulless. 20:46 "about" 25% done, doesn't prove there's an alpha available, not even "perhaps". When games are at 25% "done", that can mean they did all the storyboards / drew (on paper) some level design and inspirational stuff / did some promotional videos showcasing a map and character design. They don't even need to have started, basically. Picking the engine is half the work.
Great video! I was happy to see the mention of Kenneth Anger. I own a dvd set of his "Complete Magick Lantern Cycle" that has the following films: Fireworks (1947) Puce Moment (1949) Rabbit s Moon (1950, the rarely seen original 16 minute version) Eaux d Artifice (1953) Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (1954) Scorpio Rising (1964) Kustom Kar Kommandos (1965) Invocation Of My Demon Brother (1969) Rabbit s Moon (1979 version) Lucifer Rising (1981) While I'm a massive fan of Kenneth Anger, but having the last name of Hinman, I definitely have strong opinions about Bobby Beausoleil and Charles Manson(Yes, the music teacher was a relative).
07:30 This thing is creepy all around, people love this show or character? Frig the guy himself looked like a P by looking at him the fact that nobody could see this is baffling! Keep that content coming love it all.
it’s funny to imagine the keneth anger production as “haunted” when it’s really a bunch of acid heads trying to make a movie lol. i work with this kind of stuff to this day, but it’s no where near as cool.
@@rizkiramadhan9266Lost media is an umbrella term describing examples of media that are nonexistent, missing, or *unavailable to the general public.* - Wikipedia
I’d like to point out something as a music nerd that at the point in time that “Lucifer” was filmed, jimmy page was in a band called “the yardbirds”, who’s lead singer was Robert plant. (If my memory serves me well)
The media calling a game about Guantanamo bay “propaganda” after they told us everyone there was definitely a criminal, even though many were never tried or convicted of anything is terribly ironic.
That Otto case doesn't sit right. Any reason to set him up? It has the ring of a set up about it. "Oh hey guys look i just found an external hard drive that definitely wasn't placed by us" -A. Cop
I love how some guy who made a show nobody's heard of is called "the most famous child entertainer in the 1990s" & the show he created apparently was with someone else who killed 2 people, but that was never talked about & the place where it was filmed was never talked about... Is it from Cali? Dude-man's wearing a Kings sweater in the clips. This channel rules, but... I guess everyone slips up, every once in a while.
Do you live in Estonia? Have you heard of Russian or French children shows? Those things usually don't leave their country of origin you know. Not everything in the world is about English speaking counties like America, Australia, Canada, and England. Countries which don't speak the same language usually don't crosspollinate media for toddlers.
@@genyakozlov1316 bruh, the wording, man. If it's an Estonian show - which, I ain't got a single clue why they'd be Kings fans - then he shoulda said "the most popular entertainer in Estonia." That's all I'm pointing out, here. How you gonna come in here like you know everything? You ain't no jigga-genius, comin' correct.
Thanks for watching! You can find Vol. 1 here th-cam.com/video/fVYNIprJaMs/w-d-xo.html : )
can you make a lost media about japanese creepypasta
Props for finding cases of lost media from the more "obscure" countries. They're not nearly talked about enough, and I know researching them can be hard due to language barrier but I think it's worth it.
I remember watching ''Otto-Triin'' and ''Jälle see Jäpe'' as a kid. Estonian children shows in the end of soviet time and in the 90s were all cursed because the puppets/costumes were uncanny as hell...
@sasacc322 Well, it was the norm so it wasn't creepy. When I rewatch stuff from my childhood now I find it uncanny and weird, but I remember that when I watched the same stuff as a kid it didn't feel that way - times have changed and there are way more new stuff with more pleasing aesthetics.
@@ek1889 same, here in the Netherlands we had a kids show called "Wizzy & Woppy". Used to love it as a kid, seeing it now it makes me feel uncomfortable
That and Otto-Trinn isn't a very nice guy. Like, at all. He will always be remembered as a murderer of two people and a convicted kiddie diddler and collector of kiddie no-no pictures and videos.
That Otto-Triin creature is creepy as hell o.O I'm glad it's gone D:
I know right, how was this a kids show, let alone a popular one? That creature is pure nightmare fuel, would’ve given me nightmares as a child.
To be fair i think barney is creepy as hell too
Reminds me of that english satirical kids mascot
@@tikimillie
Mr. Blobby?
It looks like it was made for an analog horror series.
My God, the entire backstory of the show could be a horror series.
The Otto costume is absolute nightmare fuel on top of the CP.
I actually yelled out loud "OH GOD DAMMIT" at the last part of Otto's segment. It's really really depressing knowing that alot of child entertainers seem to end up going in the route of doing unspeakable things. 😢
Edited this post since saying “most entertainers” is too harsh and not true. There’s a lot that are still good human beings.
Many. I don't know about most.
MOST????? Seriously??? I’ve not actually heard of that many cases compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who work in the children’s entertainment industry which is gigantic and comprises everything from birthday clowns to Sesame Street
Not to mention... that light sentence?? 5 years, only four months of which are in jail? That is pitiful. Meanwhile, the child he assaulted and the children in those images will be traumatized, in their own mental prison, forever. I hope they at least have the decency to put him on a sex offenders list of some type to ensure he doesn't work with children again.
It's tragic, to be sure, but persons like that are more likely to take jobs where they can have access to children. Ronald William Brown of the former kid's show "Joy Junction" is probably one of the most popular examples.
Meanwhile I yelled "I F***ING KNEW IT"
i can’t believe this came up in my recommendations 45 minutes after it was posted. very exciting. i’m definitely subscribing, your stuff is incredible from the little i’ve already seen
I have an interest in cancelled games but this is the first I hear of Rendition Guantanamo. I honestly never heard of anyone talk about it.
It looks interesting, especially the setting. If there is indeed an alpha build I hope it resurface.
I would play the heck out of that game. Sounds a bit like The Suffering but with real world horror
I am so glad that I stumbled upon your channel recently. Such good content, you know exactly how to set a tone. Definitely an underrated creator. Can't wait to see where this goes!
Thank U!
its really sad when childrens entertainers are involved in cp
Easy way for these sick fucks to get access to kids
FR WTF IS WITH CHILD ENTERTAINERS AND CP
When virtual Carbon posts, you already know it’s gonna be good! Man this channel is underrated as hell.
Luv u!
real
If you enjoy high strangeness I recommend "Where Did the Road Go?" as well.
very nexpo vibes
forreal
It's rare to watch a video like this without any entries I've heard before. Very good work! I especially wonder how you found the first one
honestly, i love hearing about media from estonia, one of my favorites definitely has to be the animated short film "Suur Toll"("Toll the Great"/"Big Toll" in english)
Whoa!
I'm 71 years old & shut down Otto because I was afraid it would give me nightmares!
I can't believe they let children watch that obscenely creepy thing!
Bro, your videos are like films, everytime I'm about to watch one of your videos i prepare some snacks and drinks, keep up the good work 🖤
You know its a good day when there is a new Virtual Carbon video to watch
Otto is scary as hell.....and this was popular???
there is something magical about ur voice that is resonating with me , love ur new video bro
Your content is easily S tier. Keep it up man!
That Otto show looks absolutely unhinged.
Did not expect the first entry to be about a thing from my home country, your pronounciations were a bit funny but good enough. Great video!
People have accents, don’t make fun of it lol
i really like that you include social context for each of lost medias. it sets your videos apart from most others I've seen
I just discovered your channel. I like it. I've never heard of these cases. So, it's refreshing to hear some new cases. Nicely done. 👍🏾
Thank you!!! Perfect timing for lunch! I love your videos! They need more views.
I’ll never understand people who are sensitive about wrong pronunciations. An accent is by definition pronouncing words in a slightly different way, and even people who have been speaking a second language for years still have accents. If someone gets close enough for you to understand them you should appreciate the effort
I love your channel so much! It's been a while since I've seen this kind of talent! Keep it up :D
Also, love your voice man ;3
Ah now I know what happened to that unusual egg I laid! You evolved into a funny wee dog 🐶 I hope you’re enjoying life as a canine egg 😊
@@MaliciousChickenAgenda I feel my bones rotting. I sense my cells splitting and dying in the billions. My life is nothing but pain and anguish
Other than that, it's been alright 😁
@@dogeggsofficialoh dear that’s not so good 😮 there’s a magical chant you can say to heal - say out loud 3 times- I am the clucka bukka poultry dog egg and I float through the ether on giant puffy rug. That should help
Otto Trinn's history is somewhat like Welcome Home's. A once- popular kid's show being cancelled out of a sudden and with almost no material left of it.
welcome home wasnt a real show though, its someones art project that got thrust into the spotlight by youtubers thinking its an ARG
@@monstrous1656I first thought it was just a weird TH-cam show from the early 2000s
@@monstrous1656 I know it's not real, but Otto Trinn was, and both of their histories are similar, barring the creators being murderers and abusers.
Pls dont compare real life tradiges to an arg i dont think the creator would appreciate it
@@Idonthateutoo"How dare people say Simpsons predicted something? They shouldn't compare real tragedies to a cartoon! The creators won't appreciate it."
9:40 WWHAATT?! Bro! I am SO impressed not only for your continued work on vague/rare Lost Media but also KENNETH ANGER! I can’t believe you’re covering L. Rising! So wonderful. Anger was EXCEPTIONALLY talented, never receiving the acclaim and accolades he deserves.
Agreed! I'm a huge Kenneth Anger fan.
It is probably for the best that Otto-Triin remains lost
Virtual carbon, Nexpo, Lazy Masquerade, 4 Plus, and Nick Crowley should do a collab, they are very good horror youtubers
And (don’t forget) scare theatre
@@halfcabsyt yessirrr
@@FabrizioCorrea-z8ylemmino too
And blameitonjorge
Throw Mr Nightmare in the mix as well. ☺️☺️
Another great upload, VC!
Yes VirtualCarbon, yes thank you so much, thank you. That may be just what I need to sub.
Im okay with that childhood mascot disappearing
Great, GREAT episode. Love this series so far.
I can already confirm this is going to be another Virtual Carbon banger
Amazing content my friend. Absolutely loved this video.
Your videos are amazing!!!
babe wake up, a new Virtual Carbon video just released
This account is criminally underrated
Underrated channel. I know that’s overstated in your comments, but the fact you only have 30k subs is insane. The passion you have to create these videos despite this is inspiring, I wish you well :-)!!
oh my god i love this channel already im binging everything you’ve uploaded in anticipation of the next
That fucken thing from the Estonian kids' show is the stuff of hellish nightmares. A real monster was always in the suit.
Your channel is such a hidden gem. Very interesting and well narrated.
Something told me CP was coming in that first case. I wasnt trying to jump to conclusions, but that event and his comments on said event felt weird. Threw my hands up when it came to light 😂
Nice video, Virtual Carbon!
Amazing content as always, love your videos!!! ♥️
“you watchin nexpo?”
NAH IM WATCHING VIRTUAL CARBON‼️‼️
every single photo of that otto furry looks AI generated to me. its so weird
Yeah I genuinely had to look up if this was a real thing, and yeah it is. Something about it just feels so unreal haha
I was thinking the same thing!
Exactly, I thought it was made up for a minute.
Same here. First show was wild. I would have noped out of watching that as a kid
I thought the same thing and checked the video for a pink outline. There are a few youtubers who make content that is fake but sounds real, and they have the video outlined in pink to show that it’s fake. But this is definitely real, it’s just weird that it didn’t get ANY recognition before like many other show mascots like Ratafak Plachta, Morso, Fofao, etc. who were all popular in the lost media circuit since the 2000s.
That mascot is horrifying
That children's cartoon reminds me of that czechoslovakian character who's name I cant spell but translates to "Nosy blanket" Many of the episodes from that show was lost There was also another show known as Pipkins to my knowledge I think that one had lost episodes too.
Ratafak plachta
@@marianasobrenome3316 Watafak pasta?
@@theRPGmaster😐
Otto trin looks pretty disturbing to me even before I learned of the fates of the two producers, I wonder if people did not suspect something was off when they see this creepy dinosaur and things
The film bout satan and demons took a _dark turn_
Otto looks like Stitch and Angel's kid
The story of Otto seemed like an AI generated string of pictures/clips, that's how soulless and scary that suit is. I could not take it seriously for half of it, until it sank in that there was a person behind the suit, equally soulless.
20:46 "about" 25% done, doesn't prove there's an alpha available, not even "perhaps". When games are at 25% "done", that can mean they did all the storyboards / drew (on paper) some level design and inspirational stuff / did some promotional videos showcasing a map and character design. They don't even need to have started, basically. Picking the engine is half the work.
Otto looks like one of Jumba's experiments
It's weird how the Satan movie was plagued by insane murderers and r*pists...
Not weird or surprising at all. Murder and r*pe are satanists’ favorite pastimes.
Finally!! I been waiting
I wonder how many of the lost media shows can be found on pirated sites
AYO ANOTHER ONE LETS GOOOOO
Great video! I was happy to see the mention of Kenneth Anger. I own a dvd set of his "Complete Magick Lantern Cycle" that has the following films: Fireworks (1947)
Puce Moment (1949)
Rabbit s Moon (1950, the rarely seen
original 16 minute version)
Eaux d Artifice (1953)
Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome (1954)
Scorpio Rising (1964)
Kustom Kar Kommandos (1965)
Invocation Of My Demon Brother (1969)
Rabbit s Moon (1979 version)
Lucifer Rising (1981)
While I'm a massive fan of Kenneth Anger, but having the last name of Hinman, I definitely have strong opinions about Bobby Beausoleil and Charles Manson(Yes, the music teacher was a relative).
That fuckin’ Otto-Trinn is TERRIFYING looking.
07:30 This thing is creepy all around, people love this show or character? Frig the guy himself looked like a P by looking at him the fact that nobody could see this is baffling! Keep that content coming love it all.
it’s funny to imagine the keneth anger production as “haunted” when it’s really a bunch of acid heads trying to make a movie lol. i work with this kind of stuff to this day, but it’s no where near as cool.
The bit where Anger accused the actress of importing drugs made me laugh. Like dude, you expect me to believe you all weren’t on drugs?
Lucifer Rising sounds like the inspiration for Night Film by Marisha Pessl
I haven't heard of any o'these =0 thanks!
Damn the Otto one is so interesting to hear! (Not morbid!)
Especially what happened after.
That show gave me the creeps
Damn watched a lot of your videos yet forgot to subscribe
Great video as always,I wanna ask what video editing software do you use?
Premiere Pro
I've never heard of any of these. Interesting.
Another hood classic
How the hell did that Otto thing entertain kids?
If a piece of media still exists in an archive, it's not lost.
To some of these lost media evangelists, if it’s not available to watch on TH-cam they consider it lost 😂
If its in a private collection(not viewable by the public) it's as good as lost
@@maddieb.4282 ikr, it's stupid
@@realDonald-trump "lost media" refers to media that no longer exist
@@rizkiramadhan9266Lost media is an umbrella term describing examples of media that are nonexistent, missing, or *unavailable to the general public.*
- Wikipedia
The Otto-Triin episode on TV3 website is up again (at least when viewed in Finland). So it might have just been geoblocked.
Oh boi here we go
I hope someday can remake a new game about Rendition Guantanamo, the idea sounds interesting. With a good public, can be released well!
I thought he was going to talk about the original “6 days in Fallujah” I didn’t even know about the game he talked about lmao
Whenever you hear the name Bobby Beausoleil, something awful is sure to happen.
Its a good day.
At five years old I would clown on Barnie the purple dinosaur because of how he looked. He has nothing on Otto-triin.
Otto Triin looks very similar to a specific Jazmin Bean makeup look, I wonder if they were inspired by the suit
Boy does the disappearance of Otto-Triin despite being so massive remind me of Welcome Home.
"remaining remnants" irked me
I’d like to point out something as a music nerd that at the point in time that “Lucifer” was filmed, jimmy page was in a band called “the yardbirds”, who’s lead singer was Robert plant. (If my memory serves me well)
Plant was never in the yardbirds
@@fidelio9301 oh man you’re right. Wonder where I got that info from
Part 3 please!!
The media calling a game about Guantanamo bay “propaganda” after they told us everyone there was definitely a criminal, even though many were never tried or convicted of anything is terribly ironic.
Seems like Estonia had its own Jimmy Saville, ugh. So sad and disturbing.
That Otto case doesn't sit right. Any reason to set him up? It has the ring of a set up about it.
"Oh hey guys look i just found an external hard drive that definitely wasn't placed by us"
-A. Cop
Heyy, I’m from Estonia
Say whatever you want about his friendships, Bobby Beausoleil's music is great.
Internet archivers do the lord’s work.
Nexpo. You got killed bro
I’ve never heard of this character. Otto triin Sure is creepy looking though.
0:00 Deltarune music!!
Old estonian cartoons really were something else.
Oh, it's ARG stuff.
It’s not but ok
"No video exists" while showing tons of video from different sources.....
I love how some guy who made a show nobody's heard of is called "the most famous child entertainer in the 1990s" & the show he created apparently was with someone else who killed 2 people, but that was never talked about & the place where it was filmed was never talked about... Is it from Cali? Dude-man's wearing a Kings sweater in the clips. This channel rules, but... I guess everyone slips up, every once in a while.
Do you live in Estonia? Have you heard of Russian or French children shows? Those things usually don't leave their country of origin you know. Not everything in the world is about English speaking counties like America, Australia, Canada, and England. Countries which don't speak the same language usually don't crosspollinate media for toddlers.
@@genyakozlov1316 bruh, the wording, man. If it's an Estonian show - which, I ain't got a single clue why they'd be Kings fans - then he shoulda said "the most popular entertainer in Estonia." That's all I'm pointing out, here. How you gonna come in here like you know everything? You ain't no jigga-genius, comin' correct.
spookies
Otto is giving Mr Tumble vibes… 👀