The Plane That Was Ripped Apart | Inter-Canadien Flight 1678
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This is the story of inter canadien flight flight 1678. On the 13th of march 1994 an ATR 42 was to fly from Val D’or airport in quebec to Dorval airport also in quebec. At about 10 am the ATR 42 took off from runway 18. As the plane climbed the first officer was the one at the controls, theyd been asked to climb to 21000 feet by ATC. The plane climbed as the canadian countryside stretched out in front of them. This went on for some time, suddenly as the plane climbed through 17,000 feet an explosion rocked the ATR 42. The plane rocked from side to side in the the air in the cabin was sucked out as it depressurized in a matter of seconds. The pilots immediately stopped climbing and started a descent. It looked like the right hand engine had failed so as the plane descended down to a safer altitude the pilots started work on the the single engine failure checklist.
The first officer contacted Montreal area control and told them about their situation. they cleared flight 1678 down to 11,000 feet. In the cockpit the pilots were worried about a potential inflight fire on the right hand engine as they observed fuel leaking from the engine. The first officer pulled the fire handle and declared an emergency with ATC. 7 minutes had passed since an explosion rocked flight 1678, they were still airborne and things were under control. The first officer decided to go into the cabin and survey to see what had happened. The first officer could see a gash on the right hand side of the plane below a window seat. To their shock they noticed that the frame of the seat itself had been sliced through by something. Once back in the cockpit the pilots had some tough decisions to make. Obviously something had gone catastrophically wrong and the fuselage itself sustained a lot of damage, but they couldnt judge the full extent of the damage from inside the cabin, the damage on the outside could be a lot bigger than the tiny gash that they could see. As they didnt know how badly their plane was damaged they tried to turn as little as possible to avoid stressing the aircraft too much. If the crack grew any further well that could end very badly. Minimising further damage was of paramount importance as they were still about half an hour away from all of their diversion airports. For example mirabel was 39 minutes away, val d'or was 36 minutes away and dor val was 44 minutes away. They opted to continue on to dorval. Its not explicitly stated in the report but i think they opted to continue onto dorval because thats the flight path that required the fewest amount of turns, think about it to get back to val d’or theyd need to do a 180 and they really didn't wanna do that.
At 10:28 am the plane cautiously started a descent to 9000 feet, it stayed there till it entered the Montreal terminal zone and then after that it continued its descent, on their way down the pilots requested the airport to have emergency vehicles on standby just in case something went wrong. Fight 1678 lined up with runway 06L, I imagine that that was stressful, with them just hoping that their plane held it together for a few more minutes till they reached the runway. Thankfully it did at 11:16 am flight 1678 touched down safely and all onboard were okay.
Once on the ground the pilots got a first hand look at what had happened. The right hand propellor was missing One of the blades on the right hand propeller had broken off and the blade went right through the fuselage, it was so close that it went through the cabin and cut through a seat that was unoccupied, thank god for that. The seat isnt the only think that was spared; they found two slightly bend hydraulic lines where the blade had gone through, had the - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
"Where's the propeller now?"
"Canada"
Mathematician: "I can figure this out"
Fantastic! Road salt is prohibited from use at airports for this reason, and chlorinated chemicals in general are generally unwelcome. Even A-B-C fire extinguishers are prohibited due to corrosive effects on aluminum. Only B-C fire extinguishers are permitted in the AOA. I love videos like this because I teach many people how to operate safely in an airfield environment and references like this help me explain how small things can have an effect or why rules that may seem over-burdensome exist. It really helps when there is a rule that needs to be complied with if I have a concrete incident to point to that reinforces the importance.
I gather there are also severe restrictions on shipping gallium by air, because if it melted (I believe it melts at about 30 °C, so sitting on the tarmac on a hot day could do the job) and leaked from its container, it could alloy with the aluminum of the fuselage skin and create a weak spot.
Thanks for giving mathematicians their due. Being taken for granted can add up!
I see whatcha did there.
It's true that Safety Rules & Regulations are written in blood... But I always enjoy stories where no casualties happen.
This video title had me stressed out, glad this awesome crew got down safely!
Appreciate your presentation.......All the best 👍
I always liked the ATR, I guess it epitomizes the regional aircraft to me. But til now, I didn’t realize how small the wing is relative to the fuselage. This is the 2nd incident I’ve learned about where the cork in the propeller was the nugget.
Very well put together! Keep up the great work!
Great presentation. Your pronunciation of Val D'Or does need improvement.
Your best video yet!
If a slight imperfection can grow into catastrophic disintegration, then , from an engineering point of view, there can be NO acceptance of the term "slight imperfection”, because it is not "slight" after all. Right?
The park is open from dawn to dusk
Great as usual. One note: It's pronounced "door-VAL". 👍
United 232 is also a good (or rather bad) example of how metal fatigue can lead to disaster although I think in that case the fatigue should have been detectable during maintenance
Aloha 243...
What a great video. Why don't they just replace the propeller blades every several thousand hours? That would be the best solution of all.
Kudos to those mathematicians who figured out the precise location of the fractured metal pieces in both the scenarios. And let's take a moment to appreciate this flight crew for their commendable action in bringing the airplane safely to the ground.
I'm a math guy and the technique they use to find stuff is really cool. They basically treat it like a scientific profess where they incorporate new information as it's acquired to improve their probabilistic model and narrow down the search area as they go. It's relatively simple mathematically but the fact that it works so often blows my mind.
Just wanted to say what a great job you do on these investigations. Your knowledge and emotional involvement shine through while you avoid the classic pitfalls of the videos becoming dry or overly-dramatic.
Well done and thanks for the great content!
Thank you!
Indeed a very good presentation. Just a minor correction: The dent hydraulic lines have nothing to do with the controllability of the aircraft. The primary flight controls of the ATR are manual. The hydraulic lines are for the landing gear, the the landing gear extension system has a manual backup.
Good catch! My bad!
English please
@@Jfjcjfjfjf even if the hydraulic line were cut by the propellor, the pilots would still be able to control the plane.
@@tabittheha But belly landing the plane with compromised structure would not be a pleasant experience...
@@090giver090 oh, sorry I’m not trying to make my own point! I’m just saying what the other poster said in shorter terms bc Simplex said “English please”
WOW. Just WOW. You are definitely a storyteller. Words can not describe the accuracy of the mathematicians. I am really happy with the way they handled everything. Absolutely blown away by this story.
Bruh he can't even spell Canadian correctly...
@@jaggerdfletcher1618He made a typo. Is that so much trouble for you?
@@dimitarivanov3817 Very well said Sir. Easier to find faults than to create something like this wonderful analysis
@@suresh1957 Indeed. "Pay no attention to what the critics say. A statue has never been erected in honor of a critic." -- Finnish composer Jean Sibelius
Dude the airline is literally called inter canadien That’s how they chose to spell their name what can I do? 🤷♂️
I love flying in those ATR72's, but I always make a point of NOT sitting in the row in-line with the props or the one in front 😉
Don't fly on them in cold weather, their driving systems suck.
And don't order wine during the flight.
The prop arc is one thing . Sitting two seats back and being in line with the compressor wheels is just as if not more dangerous than the prop.
@@kdrapertrucker _"Don't fly on them in cold weather, their driving systems suck."_
Did you mean their *deicing* systems? If so, that's true. Their deicing systems are notoriously -- fatally -- ineffective.
@@shreddder999 Unless it's got a synthetic cork or screw-top.
Mini Air Crash: "Guys, I can't find my wallet. Can you help?"
Mathematicians: "We're mathematicians...not miracle workers."
Mathematicians: at what location, altitude and direction did you throw your wallet?
Statisticians:
"There's a 30% probability of it being within a mile of your present location, a 15% probability of it being in your pants pocket in the dirty laundry basket, and a 65% probability of it being between the couch cushions where you took a nap yesterday afternoon" ;*p
@@stevengill1736 "73.6% of all statistics are made up."
@@josephmassaro LOL
I have this little card called a tile, it's the size of a credit card, if you lose your wallet you can use your phone to make an alarm go off. It's pretty cool. Also, if you lose your phone theres a button on the tile you press and your phones sounds off even if its turned off.
I think we should take the time to thank the hard-working engineers and guys on the assembly line who built a plane so tough that it could survive a propeller blade slicing into it at 19,000 feet. A lot of guys and their factory really took the time to do the job right, and thanks to that, nobody had to die in this freak accident
This is why the guys who put stuff together like this need to be well trained, healthy, and well compensated. Part somebody messes up because they are tired or sick or hungry could turn something like this into a mass casualty event.
So true. Great point
Given all the quality control issues that Boeing has been having lately, they'd do well to heed your excellent and timeless advice! 🤔
@@daviddunsmore103 Naaahhh, profits are more important to the suits. Cover up any shortcomings.
@@daviddunsmore103 Honestly, i'd ask SpaceX to build your plane at this point...
@@higueraft571 Yes, SpaceX has a culture of actively seeking out potential problems and fixing them. Any employee can go straight to the COO or CEO if they think their problem isn't being addressed. They also have a " no ahole" clause written into their employee contract. I think that would be a great addition to any company's employment contract. Yes I am a fan-boy don't sue me. :)
Metal fatigue on my Cessna 172 prop caused an inflight loss of a tip. The fracture was probably the result of a small stone ding about 3 inches inboard of the tip when the prior owner hit a snow bank under power. It felt like the engine was about to rip off the mounts. Quickly shut down and dead sticked it into a small airport that happened to be close by. Very “exciting” experience.
Metal fatigue is a major issue in all machinery. Keep vigilant!
Yikes! Glad it wasn't more serious.
hopefully you got all the gears or whatever other internal components thoroughly checked too... nasty issues from such overstress events can tend to crop up hundreds of hours later.
Nothing like the threat of death to make us sit up straight and take notice!
I'm glad you're okay too. 👍
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 True. Did a tear down and some inspection but ended up getting a new engine. LYC-360
I bet that beer tasted pretty good after you got her down safely.
Good call replacing the engine. Wouldn't want to have it seize and need to do another dead-stick landing. Better safe than sorry eh, especially with aircraft.
Those mathematicians were better detectives than Reddit and 4Chan combined.
I dunno.... 4chan does superpermutations better than mathematicians...
No shit Sherlock
I'm amazed, for sure. Corrosion is no fun on an aircraft, definitely!
@@Relkond I award you the best comment award 🏆 👏
This video is a prime example of all the things you do right. Length, style, insight! The information on what improvements were made based on the incident and investigation really sets you above the pack.
Got a future story for you. ZZ333. RAF Voyager KC2 that suddenly pitched down sharply. For once not a computer failure and actually it was the FBW that saved the plane
I’ll look into it thanks!
and theres a video out now about that!
I had an old pickup throw a fan blade straight up through the hood on the freeway. That was scary. This is like ×1000 and in the air. Eeek!
As a Canadian, Val d'or is pronounced "Val door". while Dorval is pronounced “Dor-val" (as in valley).
As a a French Canadian, from Abitibi, Val D'Or is just pronounced Val dor. And Dorval is pronounced exactly the same but backward. Which is kinda funny. valdorvaldorval.
@@felixar90 Abitibi? I've got a great song for you. Wait, you've heard it already. Mouches noires la chanson de Wade Hemsworth.
@@amazing7633 Yes. Although Little Abitibi River is in North Ontario-i-o. I live in the Abitibi region of Quebec. Near the Abitibi Lake which flows into the Abitibi River.
>as a canadian
It's a french name
Great detective story on so many levels. really enjoy your sense of humor, too!
I love that your videos appear on Wednesday mornings, my time, at about 5 hours. This was really interesting and the fact that investigators were able to find that lost propeller is just another example of the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics (math rules!). Mini Aircraft Investigation and Mentour are the only two channels about air crashes that I watch. BTW, one of your viewers turned me on to Mentour. These channels compliment each other in some sense. Both of you are gifted investigators and commentators, each with your own unique talents. Mentour satisfies my retired engineer's craving for technical details. You have the gift of breaking down complex scenarios in such a way that we non-pilot mortals can understand.
Forgive me, if I'm being cheeky in saying this, but I'd love to watch a collaboration between the two of you discussing some major event.
May I give you a tip for another channel that, judging by your comment I think may be "up your street"?
Have a look at the "Blancolirio" channel presented by Juan Browne. Factual aviation stories, well presented by a well qualified pilot. It's a great channel to learn from, too. All the best, safe travels 👍 ✈
@@restojon1 Thanks! I'll check it out.
And one more channel to check out if you wish: 74 Gear. From his 'about' page: "74 Gear / Pilot Kelsey, Boeing 747 Airline Pilot , All about aviation from passengers to pilots." And, yes, I, too, follow MAI and Mentour.
I still don't know why they don't put cameras on planes that let the pilots see the engines. If SpaceX can live stream during launches, cameras can work on a plane.
It’s quite easy
Cost and workload for pilots.
Cameras means more displays, more displays mean extra training. Extra training is expensive. Taking care of displays and cameras is expensive. Buying them in the first place is expensive
On top of what the other commenters said, the number of crashes that could have been avoided by having cameras all over is negligible, and you wouldn’t be able to view every part of the plane anyway. It’s just not worth doing.
@@Sashazur It might be worth doing, since planes already cost $10M-$100M. :) Even if a camera system costs $10,000, and 5 hours of training, that is nothing in comparison to the cost of the aircraft. Plus also, onboard AI could monitor the camera data on such a future aircraft design. That is just my opinion. Anyways, merry Christmas/happy holidays. 🎄🕎
Have you tried a ballistic trajectory calculator for finding your wallet?
Excellent narration as always!
One minor quibble: "Quebec" ought to be pronounced either as "kuh-BECK", "kay-BECK" (which is the French-Canadian pronunciation), or "kwa-BECK", rather than "kyu".
Also, as @MarcDennis and @dmav522 noted, "Val d'Or" (literally Golden Valley) is pronounced like "Val Door".
"Kwa-beck" is NewYorker/NewEnglander pronunciation
We need those mathematicians to find MH370!
They tried but the lack of data on their position before they disappeared has complicated the search. Basically if you can't get a good guess on where to start you can't use the math to find it.
The premium quality of your presentations is unequalled anywhere. Fine work!
Finding that prop blade is like finding a needle in a haystack that's in a massive field full of haystacks. Amazing stuff, great video once again!
Mind I make a suggestion? I recommend looking into Avianca flight 011, it’s an interesting crash which resulted in a large loss of life but yet is never really mentioned. Also interesting circumstances surrounding it. Even a book was made about it a few years back too
There many videos on Avianca 011 that I have watched on Mayday and Air Disaster Investigation.
"I can't even find my wallet," haha 🤣. Good one, but yeah, using math to find a prop blade that was only a few ft long?!? They should be working @NASA, ha.
I'm annoyed at the programmer who made the meteorologically inaccurate double layer of flat-bottomed cumulus clouds. Many other clouds can form layers, but not those.
Good video though. Such tiny details are sometimes the downfall of our most brilliant machines. I can't imagine the effort that goes into such investigations.
That's an MSFS 2020 error, the multiple cumulus cloud layers. :) But yeah, this turn of events definitely shows that the Swiss Cheese Model can have direct consequences to aviation starting from one issue, leading to other issues in the future.
What an insane chain of events!! Great storytelling, you summed up everything very well and kept it quite interesting.
There is actually a term that I learned a few days ago* for a chain of events that leads to a disaster: The Swiss Cheese Model of Accident Causation :) Whew, that's a long one.
*From another comment made by a viewer on a different vid by Mini Air Crash Investigations. :) It is a theory that was discovered in the 1990s. It states that for a chain of events, where some go minor problems unnoticed, and lead to higher probabilities for problems to arise down the line (series of events lead to accident).
I think you give Mathematicians too much Kudos, it was the Physics that enabled the numbers to be crunched so successfully. In particular: Sir Isaac Newton. On a tangent however, this pitting, due to electrickery, is a constant problem even today. Carbon Composites are becoming increasingly common and yet Aluminium is still being used in close proximity ... an absolute disaster in the making. Only a fool puts Carbon Composites and Aluminium together for they are doomed to destroy each other on quite a noble scale! Boeing take heed. :-)
I have degrees in both math and physics. This was definitely applied physics with some unremarkable university level math. Newton laid much of the ground work for both the physics and the math involved.
@@HweolRidda Yes ... Both! :-)
congrats on 100 k
Thank you!
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation cant wait to see that silver play button keep it up well hit 1million soon
ATR has mechanical controls and hydraulics are used for landing gear(can be extended manually), flaps, braking, etc. It would have been a tough day nevertheless if the hydraulics were lost.
Well done to the crew for safely landing the plane.
Val D'or is pronounced Val Door
I can find my wallet usually but mostly fail to locate the cash inside.
Your narration makes watching these mini investigations a pleasure, and the content is always first class. Thank you
And yet a yet later on Atlantic Southeast Airlines Flight 529, a nearly identical blade corrosion issue happened with much more serious consequences. :(
Correct, but the blade that failed on the ASA flight had issues passing the original Ultra Sound inspection from the first two failures. It is possible that some of the corrosion pitting on the blade caused it to fail about 17 months after this in August 1995.
You make great videos man!
Thank you!
Brilliant post. I didn't know about this one. And I really like the appreciation for mathematicians. I have a brother who is a mathematician, a nephew who has a degree in math, my son has a degree in math, as do I. I watched an MIT Open Course (?) earlier today on math. I couldn't quite follow it all although it was undergrad!
There was another accident involving prop disintegration on a similar aircraft that related to actual prop examination techniques. That accident had fatalities sadly. I don't have the link handy. You may be happy about this.
4:08 Just short information about the ATR controlles. The ATR is a cable controlled plane. The hydraulic is just used to work the flaps and landing gear.
8:53 Turbo prop animation on left side of video is playing behind the plane wing, meaning it looks weird. I don't know what animation software this is but that would be a rather odd glitch to fly around with in real life! 😅😊👍
It's the power of math, people.
Who says you don’t need to know math? The mathematicians in this video are heroes. If the missing parts of the propellers weren’t found other propellers in service on other planes could have failed and led to crashes.
5:27
"Link on your screen right now"
Perfect timing.
I wonder if these mathematical models were developed following United 232 in 1989.
My brain shut off for a second and I read the thumbnail as "How a bit of chlorine ripped a fart"
So you're saying, the prop came off because the pilot couldn't find his wallet?
Val-d'Or?
Sounds like an ancient dwarf fortress, lol.
Val D'Or is french meaning valley of gold . There is gold mining there (obviously)
@@ydro11 Dwarves mining gold, got it.
A piece of the propeller penetrating the fuselage is another night-mare scenario. But much more srvivable than having a wing torn off.
It really helps me to feel better about flying because I know the extent to which they investigate these crashes. "There is no such thing as 100% reliability.". Truth! But, thanks to investigations into incidents, we keep moving the march of 9's further every year.
Near miss MACI videos! The pilots' crisis management was great. Wild story.
As always, an informative vid. It's always a good thing when the passengers walk away.
What a pleasure to listen to a video where the “speaker“ is a human being with mastery of English - the bots And ESL speakers need editors
Another interesting episode, sweet
good story (frightening for those in the plane I'll bet). Just a slight pronunciation note - the airport (now called Pierre Elliot Trudeau airport) would be pronounced "Dor - val" not "Drvl".
Keep up the good work!
Yes ,I thought it was funny to realise they were flying from Val d'or going to Dorval. I was FSS in Quebec province for years without realising the look alike sounding of Val d or and Dorval.
also, Val D'Or is pronounced "Val-door", and not Val-Dee-Or
"Looking for a needle... when you don't even know where the haystack is!"
This same problem also happened to Reeve Aleutian Airways Flight 8
My parents are mathematicians but I screw math up because I sometimes switch the order of the individual digits in a number. In any case, I have a hint for being able to always know where your pocket things (like your wallet) are. I always put all of mine into a plastic container and put it near the door. When I leave, I simply put all the stuff in the container into my pockets and can rest assured that I'm not forgetting anything. Then, when I come home, I take those pocket things out of my pockets again and put them back into the plastic container. There are lots of things that can be done through checklists or by having everything that has to be done in a short amount of time together. Might as well save the real thinking for problems you hadn't anticipated because there's no way to be alive without having quite a number of those kinds of problems.
This video is fantastic. Well done!👏
Is it known how many props were found in the inspections that had the same problem?
Great presentation. While flying in helicopters in Hawaii a soldier in my unit had is M16 rifle fall out. A very serious issue for a fully automatic rifle that must be accounted for and secured. About 1500 soldiers were walking all over a very difficult part of the North Shore. One of the Lieutenants who was a math major got all the parameters and told us where to look in a 100 meter area. And yup, that’s where we found it. Gotta love math in a practical application. 👍
Interesting way to balance things. Typically with balancing, they will remove material, usually by drilling/milling or with a laser, from points where the balancing machine determines. But I suppose it was designed this way for a reason.
Any material removed from the prop blade will change its shape thus aerodynamic characteristics (and stiffness, vibration resonances and so on). So other means had to be developed. Dynamic balance is also dependent on the mass distribution throughout the blade (where the material is removed). Consider balancing a car wheel. Mass is added, not subtracted.
Love your channel, man. Thank you for adding a little bit of sunshine into my day. 👏👍❤️
Legend mathematicians!
I agree!
Wow this ATR 72 has King air cockpit
Imagine being in the seat next to the one that got sliced in half by the propeller blade...
I worked in the aluminum industry a while ago. One time there had been rumors, that we would get contracts by the aero industry. As someone with privat pilot background and somewhat being an aircraft nerd, I was excited and shocked at the same time. Excited for obvious reasons, but shocked because I knew about the high safety responibilitys and my doubts about if my direct superiours would know aswell. Anyways, the contract never came, so there is that.
this is one of the less known
ATR crashes..
this video reminds me of reeve aleutian airways flight 8, only that plane was more crippled than this one but luckily they made it down
That crew was top notch.
they sure were, great team work always helps safe a plane
I was eating pea-soup, watching this story.
The spoon were held in position in front of my mouth, mustache and beard (poor spoon), for a rather long time, as you told about the ordeal, from the bang, down to :..... And thankfully it did (held together until they landed). I did not eat the soup in that spoon, before that plane touched down!
I'm deeply impressed by your storytelling, the way you use your voice, it's just an awesome channel, where you present us for the fruits of your investigations! Love it :)
And what's the story about the 15 "nope" folks????
An incredible level of detail. And thank you for praising mathematicians. I only have a bachelor's degree in mathematics and it made my brain hurt.
Mini Air Crash Investigation, thank you for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper.
Looks like the cork soaker screwed up.
I don’t think you understand this failure at all. You are clearly not familiar with the construction of the ATR’s propeller blade. The metal part which failed here is at the core of the blade. It is the basis around which foam makes up most of the blade’s volume. The whole thing is contained inside a protective and structural envelope of reinforced plastics. The corrosion failure of the internal aluminum core was indeed the start of the blade failure. But, unlike you seem to think, this wasn’t a matter of a continuous outward ‘growth of the crack’ until the blade failed.
Once the aluminum core breaks, the outer prop volume simply has insufficient strength to withstand the centrifugal forces asociated with normal operation and snaps of. It is well possible that no crack would have been visible from the outside, one second before the blade section snapped off.
I once grounded an aircraft, to the great annoyance of the passengers who were going to miss their connecting flights out of Atlanta, because I did see a slight crack on a blade and was not sure about the inside of the blade. I was the first officer and the captain left the decision to me. He would have flown with it. I didn’t want to. A few months later another one of the airline’s airplanes suffered a blade failure (much more disastrous than the aircraft in this video) and crashed, killing a number of passengers and its captain. More than likely, no crack had been visible when my colleague inspected that particular blade.
I love the detail and the focus here. We owe a debt to Neville Shute and his story No Highway in the Sky (made into a film) for raising the awareness of the public about metal fatigue back in the 1950s. There was a lot of scepticism at first. Famously the breakup of early Comet aircraft confirmed it.
Though Shute was actually right for the wrong reasons; he imagined fatigue happening from a nuclear reaction in the aluminum atoms IIRC.
the power of math!
Nice video my friend!
Considering this is practically the same sort of failure experienced in two turboprops in the US by ASA, the manufacturer must have been Hamilton Standard. Regardless of the manufacturer, this just goes to show that hollow metallic propeller/fan blades are really not the best - hollow fan blades have disintegrated spontaneously in flight several times, whereas carbon fiber composite fan blades have never, ever spontaneously disintegrated.
Always happy to hear that everyone survived.
what a story & so beautifully narrated!!
Our mothers are also mathematician cause they are also able to tell were we have kept our stuff with pin point accuracy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
0:10 - Americans/some Canucks say "KWA-Beck" and proper Quebecois is "KEH-Beck" but I don't think anyone pronounces it "CUE-Beck"....
Seat sliced and gash in fuselage?? Sounds like a propeller blade broke off at just the wrong time, just like the C130 over Mississippi… yikes
(I really need to start watching the whole video before commenting… but I’m glad it wasn’t EXACTLY like the c130)
The subject of metal fatigue was the subject of 1948 book by Nevil Shute called No Highway In The Sky later made into a film starring Jimmy Stewart as an aeronautical engineer convinced that metal fatigue was going to cause catastrophic failure of an airframe during flight. Its an old relic of a movie that every aviation buff should see. Note that the late Mr. Stewart was a WW2 B17 pilot with 20 missions to his credit. He was eventually promoted to Lt General of the USAF Reserve. I hope all the channels viewers are wearing their red poppy's in recognition of Armistice/Remembrance day on Nov 11. Good video, well done!
I lost A Long Family Friend Due To Corrosion In His Single Engine Plane . . . .
Flap Controls Were The Problem . . .
New Rules Were Implemented After The Investigation...
0:19 You are showing and ATR 72-600. I happen to like the ATRs ... Flew on them around Romania where they make up part of Tamron. Don't get seats directly behind the engines if you can help it. Because of one flight I learned to fly EVERYWHERE with earmuff noise suppression.
This accident is eerily familiar. The USMC C-130 tanker that crashed in Mississippi (?) recently was brought down by a thrown #2 propeller (metal corrosion) that went thorough the fuselage, consequently the skin started coming off, then a gearbox failed on #3 due to vibration and prop #3 came off causing the cockpit area to break off the fuselage.
Great vid! As a quebecker, I had no idea this had happened. You may not see this but your pronunciation is a little off it’s Val d’or (the best way you could say it in English is val door) and not Val Dior. Similarly dorval would be door-val but dorval airport was renamed to Pierre Elliot Trudeau airport, Trudeau for short. Doesn’t stop people from calling it dorval still. Still, great job regardless! French pronunciation is pretty wonky lol
Oh my goodness. Another one of those crappy ATR 42/72s crashes. Who designed these horrible aircraft in France? What a joke they were! Aerospatiale was a joke. Like the Yugo of planes in the 80s. Thank goodness they’re gone now!
FYI, it's spelled 'CanadiAn' not 'CanadiEn,' ha. No worries, honest mistake...still enjoyed the video. 😉👍✌️
The title of your video makes it sound like a major disaster. Few aircraft that are "ripped apart" are repaired and returned to service like this ATR-42. Also, your video animation appears to be an ATR-72, not an ATR-42, and the livery is not Inter-Canadien.
This incident reminds of a similar one with a Embraer I think in the US. Not sure anymore. But can remember the same cork and chlorine stuff. It’s not an ATR fail, it’s Hamilton Standard, the prop manufacturer.
Vap57 addressed my first Frustration. Val door not val dior. And Dorval. Secondly, although you correctly state at the outset that it was an ATR42, your graphic shows an ATR 72. And how come the right prop is still turning even upon landing after they shut it down? One thing I agree on, as I worked around this aircraft at the time, I have never sat in a seat beside the props either on an ATR or on any dash 8’s since then. Seeing that was a real learning moment for me.