LAST BIG EXPLOIT! Avoid The Soviet Civil War!
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No step back added the new reworked Soviet focus tree and with it came new alt history paths all result in a civil war. BUT what if I told you there was a exploit to go down the right right opposition path and keep Stalin incharge AND HAVE NO CIVIL WAR! Brutally broken! Not only that but it includes 0 consumer goods and a load of production bonus's. OP Russia all ready for by blood alone. Putin would be proud!
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Is this time travel?
@@CyborgCook probably released earlier for members/patreons
try to make a video about an exsploit i found. zero consumergoods as germany. you have to go imperial. under the civil war tak total mobelisacion and exstencive conscribsion. after that end the war. the rush "prepare for the next blockade" pared with 100 stab you will have zero comsumergoods
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The cursed Timeline where Stalin had a complete total meltdown and plotted against himself then couped himself and put himself back in power
the doctors were too scared to take care of his insanity, bet that could happen in any timeline
Ioseph Stalin (Schizo Form)
Red Flood has a similar storyline, just with France.
The ideal timeline
To be fair this is totally in character
you'd think the act of 'just ignore the events to see if they autofire properly' would've been QA'd fairly easily by the first guy to go afk while testing the paranoia but... oops.
I tried this, but was not able to recreate it. In my case it auto pick the top option (Bukharin) once the time runs out, and the war starts.
@@ghost28896 he only posts exploit videos after paradox fixes it
@@imthedanger557 that kinda defeats the point?
QA must click button now
@@joelthorstensson2772 Feedback explains his reasoning in his first 'infinite tank exploit' video a few months ago.
4:15 It means that the farmlands were privatley owned but heavily regulated and unionized as to ensure that the workers still had control over the land. If you want to learn more, I'd recommend reading the New Economic Policy. It was originally implemented by Lenin after the Civil war to help stimulate growth and then removed by Stalin (Trotsky supported planned economies as well) in favor of the planned economies which allowed for rapid development of heavy industry.
Market Socialism?
@@Makarosc State Capitalist actually, at least that's what Lenin called it.
More so state capitalism, like modern day China and vietnam
@@Makarosc Long Answer inbound. The TL;DR is not quite. They have differing economic and political frameworks, but similar ideas.
Long Answer:
Market Socialism still uses the capitalist framework of large private sectors with varying degrees of regulation. The NEP used by the Soviets required a much larger public sector than that of Market Socialism. It's also meant as a temporary solution. It was implemented after the civil war, because Lenin himself recognized that if capitalism is controlled by the working class, it can be used for a swifter recovery than an immediate transition into planned economies. However, Stalin moved away from the NEP and into planned economies because even though the NEP was providing a successful recovery, it was not industrializing fast enough.
"We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or they will crush us." - Stalin's 1931 speech "The Tasks of Economic Executives (marx2mao.com/Stalin/TEE31.html). The Third Reich launched Operation Barbarossa in 1941. Ten years after the prediction.
Market Socialism also does not require a the proletariat, or any subdivision of the working class, to hold a class dictatorship, whereas the NEP does. Class dictatorship in this sense means which economic class is running the government. In Marxist frameworks it's the working class, where as in capitalist and non-Marxist Socialism, it's the capitalists and "petite bourgeoise".
And they should've stuck with it. Stalin and the other tankies left a giant blemish on communist and other far left governing styles.
Stuff aside, I think you can actually prevent a civil war without exploits in the right opposition path
There's a focus where it gives you a decision that has 50% chance to assassinate Stalin (80% if you get NKVD support), in which Beria then succeeds him
After that, the coup d'etat focus would instead replace Beria with Bukharin without needing a civil war
Edit: Also, the exploit Feedback used is actually a bug where if you don't click anything on an event pop up, it won't give any effects after the pop up expires. It may work on basically any event, including those in mods, not just the vanilla Soviet Civil War.
You have to protect either Yagoda or Yezhov, whoever you manage to befriend. Beriya will never turn to your side.
Yeah, but it sucks
so ur saying that it's random if I get a civil war or not?
or is it just because he's playing ironman?
@@gabelol9987 Not the civil war part but 2 things are RNG. First is who and what Stalin will purge, though you can protect some people at the cost of PP and Stalin's paranoia increase. Purges from "Stalin's Focuses" however cannot be prevented so timer is ticking if you want to save some people (I think Zinoviev and a few others). The second RNG is the result of Stalin assassination plot. You have higher chance if you manage to finish the NKVD focus, but even then it is still RNG and has no guarantee that it will be successful.
If you are successful in assassination of Stalin, it doesn't save you from civil war just yet. Beriya still have the paranoia level increase if you do certain things and focuses. However once Stalin is gone, finishing the Coup d'etat focus will result in Beriya getting arrested instead of the civil war and you can get whoever you want (Bukharin, Rykov, or Zinoviev) in power.
When I first saw this I thought "They can't be serious". How could they miss such enormous exploit. This just shows that devs don't test their game and let you do it.
i actually wonder how tf does it break. It should click the topmost option if the timer runs out, and it doesnt look like a news event (they dont do that), so what tf happens even
Apparently some hoi4 events when they aren't clicked just kind of.... expire.
Which is weird bc I'm pretty sure eu4 and vicky2 just auto click the top option instead.
@@x999uuu1 Well, other options in Russian civil war, like tsarists and i think trotskyists don't work the same way. They expire and shit hits the fan.
@@x999uuu1 ye but i wonder why is that
@@benismann There's a few way it breaks, but in this case there's no 'default' option, and since no option is triggered, the flag doesn't get set.
It'd actually make more sense to build mils inside a puppet that you are planing to keep as a puppet, as they'll give 75% of their mills and only 25% of their civs.
the more that you know.
00:00 - beggining
18:37 - end
so helpful
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Me: asking a month ago for Dave to complete Trotsky path without causing 25 world tension, with autonomous soviet republics, comecon and being able to Puppet evryone around you also Japan.
Dave: *ask and you shall recieve!*
Actually it doesnt work as far as i m aware. In order to go Long live the workers focus or Permanent revolution you need ciwil war to be over.
Yep. Hense why I didn't do Trotsky. TRUST ME I tried
@@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx wouldn’t you just end the civil war then? If you get loads of military support you can end it by 1938 and then prepare for Barbarossa.
I've tried this 4 times now and it looks like the Dev's have fixed it.
Ok FeedBack, ok
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wait how?
Bukharin was a proponent of the New Economic Policy, which was a carefully crafted injection of capitalism and markets into the Soviet Union. Something that Deng would adopt for China later on. Stalin would adopt the collectivization of the farmers instead. Bukharin was considered on the right (within the party) because of this and some of his other thoughts. Also was considered the heir to Lenin until Stalin used him to win support away from Trotsky and Bukharin himself.
For context about the right opposition, yes, Bukharin supported giving more autonomy to the farmers. During the Russian Civil War, Lenin implemented the "New Economic Policy", which implemented some limited forms of capitalism for farmers. This was because the civil war devastated Russia and agricultural production had plummeted. It actually stuck around until 1928 when Stalin eliminated it. There were powerful figures like Bukharin who thought it should have stayed, until Stalin eliminated them as well.
Stalin Permanent revolution confirmed ? Stir proletariat uprising in neighbouring countries ? Dave you are genius.
He becomes the thing he ought to destroy.
"Infinite number of frances" As if one wasn't too much...
Im pretty sure FBG is actually secretly working with Paradox trying to find exploits.
There's always a part 2.....
In our hearts
If I remember correctly, Bukharin wanted to bring back the NEP, and essentially wanted to do what Deng did to China, so to being in limited free market reforms, there prob some differences between them, but I aint interested in doing a deep dive of studying either.
This is quite a supreme exploit I must say.
4:05 "We just take the civil war and push it somewhere else."
"We are in the lonely, cold part of the world"
*Looks precisely on my hometown*
Dont think I didn't hear that NOD "flame tank" audio from C&C lol
You could remove some of the malus by doin focuses and not rushing the Civil war. "Seek support from the party" unlocks the focus to get rid of trotskyite plot. And factionlism pp gain can be removed entirely.
I came here for cheese I found BIG exploit that changes game. FeedBackGaming you never change :)
I heard the kaer morhen theme from the witcher during the sponsor section and i felt so happy
Basically the Right Opposition was an anti stalinist movement to return to both the NEP and stop collectivisation, think of modern day chinese economics or yugoslav economics where the state controls a small important aspect but leaves the rest to the market. In Hoi4 this translates to less consumer goods, because state resources are no longer being used for all of management
From what I understand anyways, the Right Opposition was a particular subset of soviet leadership after lenin died. It was represented, as it is in game, by Bukharin and Rykov. It was called that as it was the more "right wing" (still very communist) side of Marxist leninist thought.
The Right Opposition wanted a continuation of the NEP established in 1921 under Lenin and taken away by Stalin in 1927. They believed that the soviet union was too agrarian and the industrial proletariat too small to actually achieve socialism, so allowing small scale private enterprise back as opposed to a top down centrally planned economy would help kickstart industrial development and eventually "grow into" socialism. Keep in mind, when the NEP was first introduced, it was a compromise the bolsheviks did to restart the absolutely devastated soviet economy after the civil war. The Rights just saw it as the true way forward instead of a bandage.
This is in opposition to the collectivization and five year plans the rest of the party wanted.
If all of this sounds familiar, it's because China would end up doing something similar under Deng Xiaoping in the 1970s. Which is to say that the obstensively communist nation of China is clearly a state capitalist one nowadays. (This is why stalin and the rest of the party didn't like the NEP btw, with Trotsky fearing it would just lead down to capitalism)
I think if this happened to the USSR in real life then they would have ended up something like modern China today. Definitely a higher quality of life than the actual USSR gave to its citizens anyways.
Also yes haha le funni TNO man
But i wonder what would happen when the great depression hit though..
Soviet economy by the 1927 was demonstrating small growth rate (especially in heavy industry) and this rate was decreasing even more. So USSR would have ended up as lebensraum, and its citizens as ash.
Huh that's actually a good point.
the NEP, unlike dengism, had stuff like trade unions, worker co-op bussinesses, and soviets (which are also trade unions but not really) so it is doubtable the soviets would end up as authoritarian as China.
Manchuria and Inner Mongolia are different enough for it to make since to be releasable
perfect timing for the sponsor to be fishing related
What, thehunter sponsored a hoi4 youtuber. This it the greatest colab in history.
So, I requested this from Antasil and I saw this here STATISFIED!
The fact that you can actually skip the civil war.....
Nice. I love that exploit but I think it can be use even more.
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You should play Lithuania. They're focus tree ia actually really decent. You get to annex the entirety of Poland and get all the cores with one easy 70 day focus. Plus you get lots of civs and mills from factories, and avoid war against Germany. It's actually decent.
Yeah im sure he didn't know that.
In this episode of Feedback Breaks Hoi, Stalin allows political discussion, everyone is unexpectedly happy.
the most historical game of hoi4
Stalin ignored his paranoia for one minute and got overthrown by himself, and then chairs
Chair world conquest
Napoleon didn't use divide and conquer, he used defeat in detail
errrr those are the same thing
@@FeedbackGaming No, no they aren't: defeat in detail is a military tactic; divide and conquer is a diplomatic and military strategy
@@FeedbackGaming Although, it's worth mentioning that Napoleon tried (unsuccessfully) to divide and conquer
Keep going guys just 99k to go
Germany needs a Dlc to buff it I thought maybe a dlc called mittel Europa (central europe) where germany like the soviets gets buffed and gets more decisions and you can upgrade adolf and so on , Austria will be like Poland you have many paths you can choose and you can become very strong and at last Scandinavia will be treated like the Baltics all of them have something in common but also their owen ways
Whats so great about setting up collaboration governments? You always use them, I dont use them personally.
Nations capitulate quickly and get free compliance
@@FeedbackGaming
Im sorry I wasnt clear enough, i mean that one mechanic where the compliance gets high enough you can set up a little puppet state in occupied territory.
Btw u cant send eq to anybody anymore not even to Spain so no eq sending and stopping the sending to get it again
True Dave feedback gaming moment
Isn't an event still supposed to go through a defult option, if no button was pressed?
Not this time
Default option is WORLD PEACE!
I demand part II...
Do it...
If a country is making no consumer goods for years does everyone run out of trousers?
Yes
But a part two for this one would be fun.
4:24 worker cooperative rather than state enterprise. Similar to Yugoslavia under tito.
2:25 USSR had the largest navy in the world.
Feedback Gaming after playing the newest patch for 5 seconds:
In very simple terms, the split in the CPSU was the three camps shown in game, the right opposition led by Bukharin believed that the USSR was not ready to move towards socialism because of its relatively undeveloped industry so the USSR should continue the NEP. The Left opposition led by Trotsky argued that Stalin and the current leadership were not moving fast enough towards socialism and should speed up programmes such as Collectivisation and mass industrialisation. The centre led by Stalin argued for, well, a middle ground between the two collectivisation and industrialisation should continue at the current moderate pace. The purge was triggered by a few factors, one being that within a leninist party these factions should have basically shut up after the party voted for Stalins view, there is also arguably trustable documents from leading right and left opposition members showing that they were conspiring against the party, there was also evidence of industrial sabotage supposedly conducted by Trotskists and Bukharinite. But one of the most major triggers was the assasination of Sergei Kirov
Could you do this going down Trotskys path too?
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Not sure If I’m being presumptuous but my condolences
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You could play her in hoi4 😞
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this doesnt work? how do you just avoid the civil war it just automatically fires?
It doesn't automatically fire. You have to click a button on the event to make it fire
@@FeedbackGaming it does for me every time. Is there any other factors or steps that i have missed?
Hey feed back I found a glitch… if you spam shift click on forts you get more than 10
Multiplayer?
I tried do this today and not worked, the civil war began (even dont doing nothing in the event) and I only had 17 divisions and Bukharin as leader, so I think that this bug was fixed
It worked for me. Just did it now.
whats the name of the mod?
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Amazing i hope i can try it before they fix it, i always go right oppo but this seems faster and saves some advisors
100k Likes? You hear that everyone? Why not?
ye Dave the right opposition was about returning to NEP so it was kinda lessez faire version of cummunism
damn dave. you broke it again
F for Queen
Should have said:
"100 000 likes of 100 000 mines"
;)
Part 2 when, FeedBackGaming?
55 BILLION LIKES!
@@FeedbackGaming on it!
the new focus trees are supper trigger happy with consumer goods. USSR and lithuania have so many of these consumer goods modifiers.
i remember when a friend of mine said that "in the communisn under stalin, they where a true democracy"
good times of everybody in the room unconfortably looking at him.
Technically correct. One man, one vote. That man was stalin.
He vote you to gulag.
@@owlsayssouth true, the thing is, he said it was democracy because people vote for whoever they feeled like in their district and the distric voted for whoever they feeled like in the zones, so in the regions so in the "provincies" so in the whole union, if someone was corrupted, the people, as in democracy should, throw that corrupted one in prision and voted for a new one.
So i simply said : "so, until his natural death, the famous for gulags, killing millions of hunger and the super famous and efficient soviet doctrine of killing your own people (226) was elected yearly by the people?" he answered, no jokes "people wanted him to be the leader, he was not a dictator" since i'm a very entusiastic (probably badly written) about all this history things, other of my friends in the group jumped in with the mithycal "no politics or history while D&D" and i'm still asking myself how the hell are people this indoctrinated with communism in this era? and most importantly, in countries that have historically fighted against communism or have never been nerby the ideology. i. don't. understand.
Thanks for assisting to my TED talk.
What "de-stalinization" does to mf
It was a democracy, and that’s why it was terrible. Democracy is just the dictatorship of the majority.
@@artyom3277 democracy has nothing to do with voting. America and Britain aren’t democracies. they’re both a republic and a constitutional monarchy respectively, but still have voting.
what about the exploit where you can use console commands in ironman mode?
NO IM IRONMAN!
It's been patches
About the curtailment of the farms and the debates inside the bolchevik party which are actually fascinating ; Boukahrin's stance was that Russia was too backward and rural to directly implement a full collectivized economy. The workers and the peasants had to work together and hence the worker's party should'nt impose a collectivized economy to a peasantry that just had gained the owned ownership of the land (1917 you know) nor impose drastic quotas on the farmers and use the capital to develop the industry (which is actually how the USSR industrialized so quickly IRL).
Basicaly it meant that the soviet economy was meant to grow at a slower yet more human pace. It also meant securing democracy inside and outside the party, even thought that depends which member of the right opposition you are talking about. Tomski for instance was more prone towards independant trades union even thought he played its part in muzzling them.
In contrast Trosky's platform was one of general regimentation of the workers and the peasantry, fast industrialisation and development to make Russia an active beacon of socialism that might spure and support the revolution throughout the world. He got wierldy allied with what used to be called the "worker's opposition" (because some of its members were actually real wokers such as Chiaplakov in contrast with the many journalist, lawyers, and other petit bourgeois ascent that ruled the party) that denounced the bolchevik's bureaucratics manners, the fadding of the soviets and trade union powers, but that was merely tactic.
If I had to choose back then i would have went with Boukarhin tbh.
Does it work with the left opposition to? ( the civil war part)
Yes however if you go Trotsky you can't progress down the focus tree
Just fixed my comment. I meant the left opposition but still got the answer. Anyways, thx
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Seems to be fixed :( tried it four times, doesn't work anymore
Let's hope paradox will never patch ot
I've tested it in a singleplayer game and it doesnt seem to work? Does anyone know what I might have done wrong
dosent work for me either im not sure why
Don't click
@@FeedbackGaming I dont click anything 😭
Flame tank under flaaaAaame boy. 10:23
check it yourself
What I'm wondering is why you always convert to cavallery as the ussr
2:13 with one
Right or wrong?
Brilliant
would this strategy work if you go the path of romanovs?
Wait does that mean that you can keep ALL of your generals? O.o
If so i hope they don't patch it anytime soon >.>
RIP Queen Lizzy😔😔
Why are your subs still on "mine laying"? The button is disabled, but they are still on the mission?
You should try the Vatican mod
instead of central planned economy system of distribution its a market style system of distribution
With the state being the final say in every matter?
@@bno6156 as in state you mean a centralized council of people that are in one of the government branches i guess but not in every matter
just distribution not production
@@NotKnafo deciding the value of the individuals labour rather than having the individual decide it. It’s not just the means of production, it’s every single aspect of the economy.
@@bno6156 but in a market system the individual dont have too much control on the value of his labor power either since the prices are influenced by supply and demand the part where he does have influence is when there is a monopoly price like art
@@bno6156 also its seems you mixing the terms of markets and capitalism and while they almost always go together they are not the same thing
The Rightists I believe stood for complete self-organization to agricultural affairs, meaning farmers manage their own situation. The leftists and to some-extent the centrists wanted complete agricultural centralization.
So it is just like kaiserredux
The Right Opposition basically wanted to take the Soviet Union back to the "New Economic Policy", a policy enacted by Lenin as an emergency measure to allow the Bolsheviks to fight against the Whites and to create the economic conditions for a "proper" economic revolution. The NEP was more or less capitalism for smaller industries, but with a lot of oversight and active support for trade unions. Farms were privately owned by peasants, who were asked to pay a portion of their harvests as taxes (it wasn't an insane amount, though - the farms kept a reasonable amount for themselves to do with as they pleased, and they knew ahead of time how much they'd need to surrender to the government). You almost could say the Right Opposition weren't even really communists, much in the same way you'd say the PRC isn't really a communist country (which is funny because Deng Xiaoping was reported as having praised the NEP as "probably" the "most correct form of socialism").
The NEP was enacted by Lenin after the civil war to allow the country to recover before starting the collectivization, its not an emergency war measure. The war policies were actually seen as quite brutal by the farmers, hence the need for the NEP, the farmers needed some breathing room.
Paradox, pls don't fix it, it's like an easter egg how to make soft Stalin.
The timeline where stalin get´s too nervous to do anything bad
doesnt work sadly, tried it 3 times this afternoon and it would auto-pick a random option for the civil war for me after about 15 days
Running all DLC and latest patch no mods?
Same for me. Auto-selects, then I’m at war.
Same for me, didn't work
@@FeedbackGaming yeah
It's a big mistake not to build infrastructure. So it would be possible to significantly accelerate the construction of factories, resource extraction, mobility and supply of troops. But who is interested in this in such a broken game?
Did they really forget to put a timer on that? lul
i tried to do the same as he did in the video but the war still fire idk why ?
Is it working with 1.11.13 ?
Avoiding the civil war is neat, but Your economy is not as good as you think it is. 12:13 In Jan 1940 you have 186 factories? that's nothing- With the centre path you can reach 282 factories by Febuary of 1940 (I loaded some saves of my game to compare) The key is to rush collectivization process for the 5% construction bonus, then while doing the purges move towards the foreign experts designer focus. A fully upgraded Gosproyektstroy gives 10% extra efficeiency cap, -5% consumer goods, +5% military factory construction speed, and +10% civilian factory speed. Combine those with the Captain of industry advisor, and building civs in max infrastructure states makes you Truly massive. much bigger then the right opposition. By the time the germans declared war on me in that save, I had 386 factories to Germany's 344.
civil war tosent fire becouse you got rid of nkvd>kgb so no security forces to catch you
way no mountainers in etiopia dave
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN. RIP
Nope, it does not work.