DCS: Mi-24P Hind | ATGM
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In this DCS: Mil-24P video, we’ll explore use of the 9M114 Shturm anti-tank guided missile, or ATGM. During the early access period, we will also add the high-explosive warhead version of the Shturm and the more powerful 9M120 Ataka ATGM.
Delivery of ATGMs in the Hind can either be done through the operator station using the Raduga, daylight, optical sight, or from the pilot seat using Patrovich AI.
The Shturm and Ataka are effective weapon systems against armored vehicles like main battle tanks, but much depends on the angle of attack, and it may take more than one shot to score a kill. Maximum engagement is range is between 4.5 to 5.5 klicks, based on launch conditions.
This Helicopter is so attractive in DCS. Well done!
Cheers Wags for keeping the Hype Train fully fueled.
Choo choo
The moment of awkward silence after taking incoming fire then playing it off like nothing happened was priceless Wags
It's a hind, it didn't even scratch the paint
DCS motivated me to learn Russian when the Mi-8 came out. Now thanks to that I can speak Russian and read the cockpit of the Mi-24 without a problem. This is why simulators are fun. It motivates you to learn useful things like aerodynamics and languages.
Or just use an English cockpit.
With switches in both cockpits required for a particular function, the need for coordinated flight and this 60/ 70's tech (which I love), this module just screams out for two humans in the cockpit.
And with the new Trial system you can get buddies to be your gunner for two weeks every 6 months for no charge on their end.
would have been better if the front gunner did something other than use the atgm like maybe have some kinda 12.7mm hose to whip around...
@@mitri5389 Agreed. Would be nice to have both variants.
I am impressed with the AI system, this is well beyond what I expected and it seems so intuitive. Well done.
Yea, I wonder how it will react to incoming missiles and such.
@@PaletoB Will Eject, like Jester. LOL
maybe this system will also be in the AH-64D
@@fridain ...and improved and refined I'm sure.
"Offer ends SOON", you know what that means brothers
It is time brother and/or comrade
Yea, two weeks - at least
Da
Don't know if it's still a placeholder but steam shows tomorrow as the release date
im gona get the apache instead. seeing how good the AI is in this it could be even better in the apache
Great work on the AI. Didn't expect it to be so user-friendly!
Such a great module.... Honestly, my favorite Helo is the Hind and my favorite Jet is the Phantom. The ability to fly both is going to be amazing.
Very well done. I am truly impressed. Can't wait to get my hands on this beast. 👍👍👍
Sting approves of this video!
Well, you got me. Wasn't that interested in the hind until you showed off Petrovitch. Guess I'm learning to fly the hind now. Good work!
Hey matt, great video! Just curious if the Pixelation of the terrain in the pericsope is something thats going to be permanent? Guessing it may be for performance optimization? Nonetheless great work on these video series and cant wait for the hind!
It is using low LODs because on the zoom. We are aware and plan to fix once we have a technical solution.
@@MattWagner Is this going to be done for TGPs too or just this sight? I often see objects pop in and out while using the TGP even when the view distance is maxed out. Might just be that the pod is too good at long range that it can see past the render distance of objects, but something should be done to fix that imo.
@@MattWagner I really hope you find a solution to this. Otherwise the Hind looks awesome.
@@MattWagner Will Picture in Picture rendering of the sight be mandatory at initial EA release?
Thats it im getting the Hind... System is great and smooth
Very clever system. Looking forward to trying it out. Outstanding as always!
The visibility inside the cockpit is amazing coming from Ka-50 which is atrocious.
Not only the Ka-50 visibility is enough for the job (you are not sight-seeing, after all), its automation level makes up for anything else.
bit late on my answer but also consider that the KA-50 has a pretty decent camera system and you can target stuff from miles away, and you have ABRIS for situational awareness and a data link with other KA50's - so all in all, visibility through eyeball mk1 may not be that great in comparison to the electronic arsenal of the 50 :D
I love it! I love it! I love it!!!
Cool stuff, @Matt Wagner! But, little advice: when you pronounce "Petrovich", please make sure that you place accent on "O" - like "PetrOvich" - that will be more accurate. ;)
Extremely happy to see the AI functionality where it is at so far. I'll gladly take a little simulation on the part to pretend we're both actually highly trained and skilled pilots and make up for my terrible eyesight and constant struggle to pixel hunt.
By the way he made that turn I think Petrovich might be on the vodka back there haha. Fun times ahead
Update: you can setup axis and curves for the aiming station separately in the Mi24P Aiming Station axis assignments. That was a bit obscure, because that section looks empty when you open it. It also automatically assigns all available axis to aiming controls, and those must be deleted for the aim control to function properly.
... I have to say, the targeting interface is a bit too clunky. What I'd like to see is the ability to set separate curves for the targeting controls. The regular joystick input is too jerky, and mouse/keyboard control breaks immersion.
Nicknaming Petrovich as Sting
if petrovich flies like that, then we are going to see a lot of pukers in VR :)
bring it on, I'm immune to motion sickness!
Using the shturm for shploding shtuff.
It's a purchase.
I feel like this was just as much a video on the Petrovitch AI as the ATGM. I do like the implementation, though it does almost feel like you manage the AI like another aircraft system. I would imagine the AH-64D will use a similar implementation, though looking at the Apache's cyclic and collective grips, I don't know how we'd be able to dedicate yet another hat switch to the AI.
definitely going to be modifier intensive modules that's for sure!
@@SmallishBear020 I use Vaicom Pro with Voice Attack with Jester, so I'm hoping these are implemented in a way that they can be similarly hooked into, voice comms are just more immersive
It's mentioned in the quick start guide they dropped today (or, yesterday, depending on your time zone) that Petrovich commands can be bound to controls already used for other things in the cockpit, and once you press the button to open the Petrovich command UI, it will use those controls for Petrovich rather than whatever they were bound for otherwise (i.e. binding a trim hat to trim, but when you press another button, the trim hat functions as the Petrovich directional commands), so it shouldn't be that bad honestly.
@@poiu477 Looks like VA should work pretty well here. The only one that might be a bit tricky is commanding a heading for the pilot when you're in the front seat, since you need to hold the left-right command to move the heading bug. I guess well have to make do with a few preset commands with the buttons held for different durations ("Turn 10 degrees right", "turn 30 degrees left", etc).
DCS AH-64D: I think that a company will gladly sell us a 2000$ HOCAS that we can't live without !!!
THE LORD HATH RETURNED!!!!
Amazing work again ED!
Thank you for the tutorial videos.
Another great aircraft! Well done! My wife is leaving me.
Do you have to put on the red light, or are those days over? This is quite a neat system for the AI pilot and operator. Very impressive detail in the cockpit and Cyprus is looking good too. I think we're all ready to have a fly, Wags!
Perhaps, but you don't care if it is wrong or if it is right?
i love your vids
Tomorrow's the 16th, maybe we'll get the Hind next week.
This really made my mouth water. Although I must say, Petrovich's flying is a little wonky at times.
I feel tears in my eyes...
Omg !! a lot to learn in this new flying tank ... love everthing so far . and how to search for ground target automatic haha
ROOOOOOOOXAAAANE
Hey Matt, great tutorial! I noticed sometimes when attempting to target with Petrovich, he won't look further left than the center of the sight, and vertical aiming must be done by the pilot (If the aircraft pitches up, the aiming reticle goes down, and vice versa. I find myself having to perfectly align the aircraft pitch and slight tremors will throw the ATGM wayyy off course). I'm not sure if I switched something by accident, or if that's a bug.
Amazing job !
Matt, when are you guys of DCS going to make it possible to get out of the module? When is it possible for me to get out of the airplane or helicopter and walk around these airplanes and helicopters? Would be awesome to go in to buildings for briefings (or as startingpoint of the mission should someone choose so) or airplanes or helicopter flown by other people online too. Imagine getting shot down and your friends come pick you up. while running and hiding from enemy troops. Please make it possible to walk with WSDA buttons and mouse like a first person game. Easier. It would make it mutch more immersive.
Hi Wags, will we be able to have an english cockpit but have Petrovich talk Russian to us? Edit: after EA release ofcourse
Will the sight render be improved? Currently it is extremely low quality and breaks immersion quite strongly.
Floggit: haha wags is a sussy boomer
Hoggit: *frantically searches translated manuals to find the Roxan red light ATGM system*
Funny because it’s true. Oh, Reddit.
I will be your Petrovich anytime!
"Offer ends SOON" does that mean we actually can download this beast tomorrow?? Hack yeah!
How do i remove the mirrors totally? When i unticked 'Mirrors' in the options menu, i still get a pair of mirrors in the cockpit with the surface "greyed out" which just looks off. I remember another aircraft i had where the mirrors are totally removed when mirrors are unticked in the options menu.
“Set the red lite for Roxanne” 😂😂
Light*
Is petrovich like the Russian version of Jester but more competent? Can't wait to fly thr hind along side Mi8s!!
Very different for very different aircraft.
WOOOOOOOOOOO LET'S FUCKING GO ED!
How the sight will work in vr?
Can I switch pilot / wso in multiplayer? If yes, why I can't in the F14?
Sorry for my ignorance but I do not know real aircraft system. Does the Hind only have manual targeting weapons or also automatic/laser one where it is not needed for the operator to continuously point at the target? I am not speaking EA features but capabilities when complete.
Please see the unguided weapons video in which this is explained.
@@MattWagner Thanks for the answer, I will take a look a it.
Can Mi-24 use a missile R-60 in DCS? And what about their ability to use against ground heat emitted targets as well.
Please see product description: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/hind/
Hi Matt, why it is still not available?
It is in Open Beta version.
Can we hide that red arrow from center of the crosshair?
PetrOvich, not PEtrovich. Thanks Matt =)
Pet-ruh-vitch
@@FlavourlessLife If we say pEtrovich, then a Russian-speaking person immediately recognizes a foreigner) The pronunciation is correct, the emphasis only needs to be on O.
The same is for radUga (you need a rAduga), etc. Nevertheless, Matt is trying very hard. Thanks to him!
@@alexgraphene Interesting. I always thought the O emphasis sounded really Americanized, but looks like you're right. Is the "e" sound more of a "ye" sound also?
@@FlavourlessLife You can try to write Петрович in google translator and include pronunciation in Russian. It is difficult to explain) I would say that hard E is more Ukrainian, and soft is more Russian. But Pe should not sound Pyetrovich, but something like Pe in People. It is even allowed to say through the English E like a bee.
Pee trovich, but short E. Not Peeeeetrovich) Something like that.
P. S. I also watched the video again and Matt speaks correctly almost all the time
Lubba dub a dub dub! Bravo Zulu! Will you show the functions with a human co-pilot? or should we wait for independent content providers?
Matt, you're probably asked 1000's of times, but how does one become an early access tester before actual early access release - a la Jabbers, GrimReapers, etc? Presuming it is: large following on TH-cam only?
I think there will be a release in two weeks :/
If it were now, we would already know
@@bolo7854 its coming out today. about an hour left
will this have an Indian Airforce livery?
not at launch. at EA start is russia, syria, ukraine, iraq, and georgia iirc
En francais ,c’est possible?
Trailer New Mi-24P
When I hit long Petro down to break off, he pulls a crazy hairpin turn, catches the VRS and kills us both. Am I doing something wrong or is Petro drinking on the job?
Sounds like you were probably too slow.
@@MattWagner thanks, I'm going to try going faster. I'll take this opportunity and thank you and the whole team for bringing us this module.
You are very welcome.
Can you change seats in multiplayer?
Unclear, but I'm going for a "no", considering the F14.
This looks *very cool*. Definitely going to have some good multicrew fun here.
How do you use the sight in VR?
Excuse me for being so blunt, but will you also create some tutorials for the Hind? Loved your series on the Hip.
@@HerrW0lf All modules come with tutorials and manuals. You can also use the official manual for the aircraft just like you can use the NATOPS for the Hornet and Tomcat. That is if you can find it online, which I'm 100% positive is simple to find by doing a simple google search, and plenty of pilots will also contribute to training via videos over time.
@@HerrW0lf Yes, I definitely plan to create Hind tutorials! No promises on timeline, I'm pretty slow in general with this stuff.
@@sheekm227 One of the nice things about the Hind is that DCS is a much more popular game now than it was when the Hip came out, and the Hind is a very popular helicopter. There will be *many* different people creating tutorials for it and I think that's great. Most of us have very different styles and focus on different things, so people who don't want to sit through my long-ass videos won't have to if that's not their thing.
@@vsTerminus your long ass tutorials are amazing! Keep up the good work.
Seeing how well Petrovich works from the pilots seat made me pre-order just now
Yeah I am very impressed as well
Super easy to use.
the ai is actually more convenient than I expected
@@theeltea we'll see, maybe they will code petro so that low visibility actually affects the precision
@1:24 "Lets turn on the red light for Roxanne" love the reference to the police
And now that song is stuck in my head
Context?
I still cannot believe that I will fly the Hind in VR. What a dream come true.
"red light for Roxanne" - giving away your age lol
Eh. The radio plays that song 6x a day, every day, since it was released.
PUT ON A RED LIGHT
"eh.. it looks about right" - directly out of my personal manual.
"Offer ends SOON." in the description neat lol
I knew staying up till 4 am would pay off
Well earned comrade
@@angrycat3183 I serve the Soviet Union
@@TheSkipjack95 You are accepted to serve in the KGB. Сongratulations, comrade
I didnt stay up but my cat woke me up wigh a living mice that runs atround my apartment now…
@@phoenixsui Be glad, she puts some food up on the table.
The only imperfection seems to be the AI suffering from some pitch oscillations? Otherwise... this looks brilliant! Especially once the audio interactions are in.
Think it might be because the speed for the attack run was only about 200IAS so when he commanded Petrovich pilot-commander to do the hook turn, 180 the aircraft didn't like that very much
@@crazygmanssimstuff Pretty sure the ai does that because of the wing design, I believe it was warned earlier to try not to bank too hard or else you’ll find yourself into a spiral dive.
@@crazygmanssimstuff so youre saying that the AI is using the actual flightmodel?
Oh, boy i wished the AI would do in other aircrafts. Especially when doing dogfighting against AI.
@@Jockesse mig 21 et al.
Will Voice Attack be able to hook into Petrovich, like it can Jester?
@@Lovi07 I’m pretty sure when used in combination with VAICOM Pro it’s integration is a little deeper
I note the Petrovich AI has a delay built in for finding targets - well done.
Q1. Is the Petrovich AI susceptible to normal battlefield obscuration from smoke, trees terrain etc? If so, does this apply to both before and after missile launch?
Q2. What is the search area that Petrovich will look around from the point you designate? How wide/ far from there will he search? is their a pattern to it?
Q3. What happens if the Petrovich can't find a target in the search area? Does he tell you in some way?
To answer the first one, in early access I imagine that the ai won’t be super advanced. So they won’t necessarily be obscured by smoke, but terrain for sure. Note that pretty sure the optical device used to guide the ATGMs is laser guidance so any kind of terrain will obscure the laser for the missile.
@Andre As stated by Matt, if you put petrovich into an Auto mode for the ATGM, he will fire on the selected target once he is in range. This mode is indicated by the reticle being in Green.
@@darkest_eclipse8271 the shturm is radio guided, so it can be guided through smoke/clouds. However it’s pretty hard targeting something the gunner cant see
@@teun0het huh didn’t know it was radio guided. That’s interesting to know
Nice work wags
Damn, I'm going to be spending my money again
What? you didn't preorder yet?
Comrade! Don't be left beind!
"Offer ends SOON". Imma take that as a "within the next week" and just be happy. Time to fire up the Mi-8 again. Oof this looks good.
Quick request: can you make it so that we can bind encoder wheels to speed, altitude and course select for petrovich, as well as having some of his function individually bindable. I've got a radio/button panel that I want to design in mind for other civ sims and it'd be great to be able to repurpose it for this.
Stepping away from F1-F12 command lists and making the UI way more intuitive with the directional commands is so nice to see, and the target acquisition was impressive. Gives me hope AI is approaching the point where we can have seamless multicrew. Thats the kind of tech people will pay $60+ for.
In a few years might even get voice commands working, that'd be sick.
Wow, This is going to be really fun to use with Petovitch, Looking forward to Cypress as well.
New album by Cyprus Hill
How will the ATGM periscope sight work in VR?
I’m guessing they’ll implement something similar to the viggen eventually (or I hope)
This beast is just outstanding ! So glad to have the Mi-24 soon in DCS. It was my dream since more than 12 years! I am already impressed by the job done...Thx Matt, thx Alexander and thx to the team who has already done so much for this module.
Is Petrovish able to distinguish between friend and foe?
I would think so, wouldn't make sense for that to not be implemented
@@tiny4363 Agreed, although there should also be a small chance build in for him making a mistake, like in real life.
Hmmm. Didn't prime a next subject video. Interesting.
We definitely need some kinda render system for the sight, it looks extremely blurry and un-aa'd when zoomed in
They've used a mirror system with the in-built dcs mirrors, which is not great.
yes, very bad sight picture
@@theonefrancis696 It's cool they did it like that but it really does look terrible lol
Daddy waggy
I know this will sound ridiculous but the Petrovich AI is so well engineered that I'd prefer it to stay mute, this isn't a MiG-31 after all, there's not as much information that the pilot needs to know right away
Everything I was hoping for with regard to ATGM employment. Total home run, ED! Can't wait!!!
I love everything about this! And the Petrovich AI interface is amazing!
ED pls make Petrovich say CHEEKI BREEKI when a target is destroyed
If ED doesn't, some modder will do
yea i'm gonna have some fun learning this
Man, this looks awesome. Tell us Wags, how SOON does that pre-order offer end? :)
Tomorrow
On steam it sais tomorrow, idk if that’s a prediction but
This is groundbreaking stuff. Pre-ordering now.
What is the best attack angle? Because when I approach the target I also press long up for the last alignment but then suddenly the beeping stops because the helicopter is in the wrong angle of attack I guess.
How to provide this?
@08:41: Anyone else notice the RAINBOW debris from the tank? Was it a unicorn tank, maybe 😂
I‘m curious how well the sight will work in VR - but seems Petrovic will be very nice to use, nice work! Can’t wait !
this tutorial felt slightly rushed and it says offer ends SOON there so that makes me think this is going to be out very soon
Mr Wagner, I have gained much respect for your flying ability of the hind.
Thank you mr. Wagner for inducing that feeling of anticipation I had as a child before Christmas.
Such a good work with the copilot AI. I can only imagine what you will be able to do with the Apache AI. Just wow.
This is just so amazing! What an amazing module.