I wish someone told me this first... | Squier Classic Vibe Mustang Bass [Review/Demo]
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the flats through the vintage amp with a pick was the tone for me. really appreciate how in depth you went for this bass.
Flats with a pick, vintage amp and tone at half 🤌🏻 pure beauty, and with fuzz 😍 goddamn
Sooo good
agree! 10:15 sold me on a Mustang
I agree 100%. Any idea if a Fender Aerodyne AJB (P/J pickup config) excels in that area as well?
LaBella makes a set of flatwounds specifically for the Mustang called 760F-MUS. Bought a set for my CV Mustang and they've been on it ever since. Only gripe I have with them is that they are only available as medium thickness (.043-.104") and I like my strings thicc.
Btw, I've also read that a lot of people have been complaining about QC issues with the CV Mustang, but mine is absolutely impeccable. Fret ends are perfect, frets are perfectly level, no problems with the pots or tuners, tight neck pocket, great action, spotless finish etc. I guess I was just lucky when I ordered mine.
Yes they do! I can't seem to find them in stock anywhere though 🥲
@@JonnyDibble Where do you live? I usually buy from Thomann as I live in Sweden, but it's probably a bit expensive buying from there if you live in America.
@@nj1255 I'm in the UK
@@JonnyDibble Thomann has them in stock if you're interested in trying them :) Unless there's some extra import fees in the UK now that you aren't an EU member, the shipping should be about £8.
Absolutely love the sound of both rounds and flats on a Mustang bass! Just a quick advice: if you’re going to restring a Mustang Bass, use medium scale strings. Although it’s a short scale, the way it’s designed requires medium scale strings
Great basses! Yeah I mention about the medium scale strings recommendation later in the video 😊 I assumed I could go through the bridge still haha
@@JonnyDibble a bass I think you should try next is: DRUM ROLL*
A Danelectro Shorthorn Bass!
@@Mat_Gomez23 Just bought a Danelectro 59 Short scale......wow, what a piece of garbage. So disappointed in the quality. The bridge was sticking up off the body by a lot! Sharp frets, warped pick guard, crappy pots, neck pocket was a mess. It's a shame, it had a nice sound. Had to go back. I think I just got a bad one, but yes, I would like to see a Dano Short horn too!
Yeah, I just discovered this about the Mustang scale length...
Both mine, which I bought within a few days of each other, needed flatwound strings at very short notice, and as the La Bella weren't available I got Fenders. They are long scale but work fine if trimmed a bit. Feel and sound is great.
Thank you for the fine review/demo. The Squier Sonic Bronco seems like a nice, solid little shortcale bass, I would love to see a review/demo, opinion of that model from you, if that could be arranged Johnny.
I really liked the DI tones the best for all the demos here. For some reason, the modern amp, to my ears, added a coloration that I wasn't quite feeling. I also did like the tone wide-open for those examples. To each their own!
I was also curious about the Mustang's tuning stability, but since you didn't bring it up I'm assuming it wasn't much of an issue.
I think this bass suits a pokey mid range and the modern amp sound is naturally a bit more scooped 😊 It's okay! No big issues, standard for this price range
@@JonnyDibble Ah, I gotcha. Thanks for clarifying :)!
its because of the string thru feature which adds a couple more inches to the string length hence the need for atleast a medium scale string for these.
i use regular long scale elixirs on mine and it tapers fine
Yep! Mad that the strings could cost 1/7 of the bass itself 😝
I've got a 1977 Fender Mustang bass , left handed with the Antigua finish. Bought it used around 1982. I had it modified with a Bass Ass bridge, a Dimarzio Jazz pickup near the bridge and and a Dimarzio "mudbucker" looking thing in the front. A split tone control was added also. Although I now had a hotter bass with more tonal versatility, I was kicking myself. From the guy who did the work, He discovers through Fender / serial number that this was a custom order one of a kind bass in 1977 AFTER he did the modifications.
It is a hot sounding little bass though, and if you're doing many sets a night, your shoulders will thank you later.
If you find a squire with a great neck its allways a good place to start for a modding project.
Yes! Often fantastic foundations for modding 🙂
Squier is a great foundation. Aim for Indonesian models as well for a VERY good neck, and rosewoods that look up to par woth American and often better than that as well. Very dark, choice rosewood boards, and exact Modern C shaped necks, so lightning fast and easy to setup.
@@caiusmadison2996 dude, i have a 2020 Bronco made in indonesia, gigged with it, play it everyday it is awesome, i cannot even justify buying another bass.
Love the Bronco bass
@Linden Butler I did something similar last week, but put in a Dimarzio Dp127 haha.
Nordstrand makes a mustang pickup in the nm4 surprisingly I got an mm4 in my Ray4 and it’s incredible
DR Shortscale strings work perfect with Mustangs, they run longer than typical short scale strings which works perfect for the through body bridge
I have had good success with the daddario short scales but I will probably try those for my next set
Yeah, I'd noticed the thread-wound part of the flatwound strings reaching into the fretboard already before that issue was being addressed and had first suspected that this must actually be a _medium_ scale bass. By the way, there's also some good Mustang Bass content on Philip Conrad's channel, who's in a band together with Rhett Shull 🙂
A strange Mustang quirk I wasnt aware of before 🤪 Thanks for the recommendation!
@@JonnyDibble - Surely it wouldn't be too hard to drill those extra holes for top-loading the strings, though?! 🤔 And you're welcome! 😀 Philip's basically the 'Jonny Dibble of the US'! 😉😄
I have a string through body and have used Ernie ball short scale strings and I find the string is a lower gauge on two of the strings just where it passes over the saddle. Leads to the A string popping out of the saddle. (may need a saddle replacement too) but definitely needs the medium scale strings.
I love Mustang basses. I own an American Performer Mustang and it's been my #1 bass since buying it lol
I've tried a couple of the Squier ones and they seem really decent for the money.
Awesome! I've got a real mustang soft spot
I have a Squier CV (in Olympic White, looks great) as well as a Fender Player series and love both of them.
I've got a Squire Classic Vibe Mustang (in surf green!) and I couldn't be more happy with it. The tone control is a slight issue and can be a bit harsh but once you find your sweet spot it's a fantastic sounding instrument that plays very well.
Agreed on the sound, just ordered a pair of La Bella Deep Talkin' Bass medium flats to go with my blue competition mustang bass. Using an Ampeg Micro VR mini stack, which I will be replacing the always-on fan in. Plugging that into the matching Ampeg SVT-210 cab; which I think this bass won't overload with overly deep sub frequencies. On your demo, Iiked the flats, with the vintage amp, whether the tone was quite open, or maybe mid-way; though not closed on the vintage amp. The opposite on the modern amp, preferred it closed down, maybe 25-33% open would be ideal. Have a KMA Machines Queequeg 2 Octave pedal on the way, to use with my MXR Timmy Boost, Darkglass Hyperliminal Comp and EHX Green Russian Fuzz; which I think should make a sound synth bass funky. I think these mid-focused short-scale bases work very well with pedals - will be cool to try something like a Darkglass Microtubes X with it too. Dry neck is an issue on my Mustang 6-string electric guitar too, but once treated, it's good. And like you said, they benefit from a bit of work, a professional setup. The pickups honestly I think sound good. With a boost in front helps them kick (b)ass, at better volume. The Squier CV guitars, like the Jazzmaster, or better yet the Squier J Mascis are generally better than the Fender Players series too. I've heard lots of people say the Player Stratocaster is good though.
I just got a Fender Mustang Bass, with flatwounds on it. Monstrous tone!
I use and really like tapewounds on my Mustang bass. And correct - short scale strings aren’t long enough…
Thanks for the tip on the flat-wound string length.
I think I like the rounds with the vintage amp, tone at 100%.
Really suits a bit of drive 👌
I got one last year. I’ve recently become a flatwounds fan, and the most difficult thing for me with the new Mustang was the incredibly bright, zingy strings. I have had roundwounds on every bass I’ve owned until very recently, and I always liked them, and still do, but I realized that it’s been years since I had *new* roundwounds on a bass (I don’t change strings, pretty much ever), so it’s actually only the sound of old roundwounds that I like. So anyway, with the new bass, I figured I’d swap flats onto it at some point, but in the mean time I thought I’d try an experiment by “artificially aging” the stock roundwounds it came with. I rubbed a bit of hemp hand cream into them to simulate the kind of oil and dirt that strings get exposed to over time that mellows the brightness. I honestly didn’t really expect it to work, but it didn’t matter, because if it was a big fail, I’d just go ahead and put flats on. But, to my surprise and utter satisfaction, it worked better than I ever would have believed. It’s sounds like I have a new set of flats on it now, and I saved myself about $60.
I really love flats. Check out the great bass playing and tone on Crosby Stills and Nash's "Suite Judy Blue Eyes." Stephen Stills said he rubbed all sorts of grease on his strings, hoping to get that dull Paul McCartney tone.
DR Sunbeams are excellent on these basses
This bass/pickup practically requires flatwounds for optimum tone. Does classic Geezer and McCartney tones dang near flawlessly. Also, string thru shorties take reg long scale strings just fine. Might have to trim a bit, but no biggy!
No problem with using Fender long scale flats on my CV Mustang, and they sound and feel great.
For shortscale basses, a review on the Hagstrom line of basses would be cool.
Oooh yes. I really want to get a Guild Starfire, so that could be a cool comparison!
If Harley Benton wasn't a thing, I would've started with a Squier most likely. When I compare the two brands at below 300€, the Bentons always have flashier finishes and tend to come with more features. From what I've seen.
They're better value overall, but on the heavy side (depending on the model) - I think they're amazing!
@@JonnyDibble Yee. And I think that the necks might be thicker on bentons.
The new Harley Benton mustang-ish has a slight problem (from my point of view) in that you can't select the pickups so you're only getting both pickups on. That way it's dificult to get that Mustang tone since you'd need an isolated neck pickup sound for that. Obviously, you can mod it to solve that but the basic design doesn't offer that.
I have heard they can be good/decent to sucky and now they will not accept returns by just saying that is how the instrument is supposed to sound in most of the designs. Then in the active series they need work due to no grounding on the inside as they painted over the metal spray on coating and could kill somebody if used in an old amp pre 1972 that is missing the safety parts a modern amp has if there is an electrical surge.
@ not the Mustang Bass, that is like a P bass using the older body design of the version one P bass and has a single pickup like the P Bass. We are talking about the Mustang Bass that is basically a short scale bass made in the original P Bass design just with short scales to it.
I like the Mustang bass! There’s a bass I think needs a review: the Epiphone Embassy bass. Very curious about it! Regardz!
I've already reviewed it 😁
Mustangs are solid and punchy sounding!
Top tip for oiling the laurel fingerboard - use, sparingly, some boiled linseed oil. I did my son's Squier FSR Bullet Mustang guitar fingerboard and now it looks beautiful. Dark like rosewood.
I got this tip off Roger Sadowsky from one of his posts on Talkbass years ago. It's what he uses on the rosewood of his USA builds. Just a dab from the BLO bottle onto a piece of clean kitchen roll, rub it in, they wipe off immediately with a fresh piece. A little goes a long way.
Rosewood only needs this doing once as it's already a rather oily wood, with the laurel it took me 3 passes using the above method with 10 mins between passes.
Also, boiled linseed oil is inexpensive and you can buy it in any hardware shop.
Great review Johnny! I've just ordered this exact bass because of it.
Boiled linseed oil and flatwounds ready and waiting...👊
I love this colour and the racing stripe soooo much, I just can't find this colour in any shop or website in my country
Bought this bass recently from Gear4Music, no quality issues whatsoever. Also made the mistake of buying short Rotosound nylon wound strings for it - had to buy a set of mediums and they're not cheap! However, I've got a regular Bronco that the shorts will fit. Nice instrument, good value and I love the Capri Orange.
Amazing! Glad you’re enjoying 😄
Thank you so much Jonny for reviewing this bass. Good info. I am still on the search for the right (for me) short scale.
Cheers! Apparently the Sire U5 is meant to be stellar. I'd recommend the Gretsch G2220 too
@@JonnyDibble The U5 seems heavy and neck divey according to some. Will check out the Gretsch though! Thanks
for the Mustangs you should use the medium scale length strings, not the short scale! They are stringed through the body, so need conciderably longer strings...
Great review Jonny, added this to the collection, (due next week)
Great video johnny! would love to see you try some actual medium scale basses and see your thoughts. I have an ibanez srmd (basically a medium scale sr bass with a pickguard), and while i find the electronics leave something to be desired, the medium scale neck is just so comfy, literally the perfect middle-ground between short scale and regular. bought that bass in 2019 as i was transitioning from mainly playing guitar before but i always found that 30" scale basses have a bit too much of a toy-like feel, the strings are always too floppy for me, and i was honestly just a little scared of the full 34" scale. Now i have 2 full scale Jazz basses that I use mainly with bands, but my little medium scale still lives at home and is just so fun to play and come up with ideas. I think it was also easier transition to a full scale after using the medium, compared to going form 30" to 34" right away
Thanks! I've only played 1 medium scale it it was cool! Should definitely try more 😊
Nice video Jonny. Nice change of approach as well.
Thanks Dave!
I like the review and personally for me, I don’t think I’d be putting flats on mine. Rounds sound much better to my ears.
Thing w bass demo's; soft finger, turkey-neck playing tells me nothing abt the instrument. Playing a bass w pick reveals way more, incl player isn't stuck in the past. Thank you for considering both worlds w this very interesting bass - Great bang for buck on these imo!
Thanks for the tip about medium scale strings. I already bought the wrong ones ... :)
It would be awesome of you compare this to the Ibanez TMB30.
Good comparison!
Flats sound great with the tone rolled open 👍🏼
Check out the Ernie Ball and Sterling short scale Stingrays
That would be cool!
I got mustang p90 it have bad control i can select only one pickup but feeling and sound great to play now im playing bass that stripe brought me here😗
Racing stripe hype 😍
This thing sounds great with overdrive/fuzz!
My Squier c/v Mustang is amazingly well finished, better than some fenders iv'e played!
Excellent video. Where you using differnt Amps or the same Amp that can produce the differnt sounds. I like the vintage too. Thanks!
? I love how confident you are for a beginner...
@@nephilim4259 thank u x
I also made the error of buying short scale strings, when I first brought flats for my pawnshop Mustang! Expensive mistake. One I will not make again
I put La Bella flats on mine. It sounds fantastic.
Lemon oil is probably the worst thing to apply... it's for cleaning and dries the neck out further. Monty's wax is perfect and will nourish the wood for much longer.
FINGERS
ROUNDS
DI 3:06
Aguilar amp 3:39
GK amp 4:13
FLATS
DI 4:46
Aguilar amp 5:19
GK amp 5:53
SLAP
ROUNDS
DI 16:33
Aguilar amp 17:02
GK amp 17:30
FLATS
DI 17:58
Aguilar amp 18:26
GK amp 18:54
to me the best combo is flats + GK, but I suggest to use Thomastik flats to have more brilliant high end
All the camera shots at the beginning of the video except no camera shot of the back area of the bass to reveal if it has a contoured back or not, as I recall the Vibe series ll has a contoured back.
No contorting to my memory!
I've got the Player Series PJ Mustang Bass version.
I'm hoping to get the Fender Japan Junior Collection Short-scale Jazz Bass, later this year.
I've heard those short scale Jazz basses are great!
@@JonnyDibble I just got one, the 3 tone sunburst! It sounds and plays as good as it looks! High quality from Japan.
Would love to see you review one.
@johnnydibble have you reviewed the American performer mustang yet?
I have not
Good review thanks. I’d welcome your thoughts on the Fender JMJ Mustang if you come across one.
Thanks! Only played one once in a shop - it was lovely!
It's a great sounding bass.
I didn't find the link of your sponsor... anyway, it's amazing how opinions can differ: I can't see any use of this bass without the tone full open :))
I've added it again - must not have saved correctly! Thanks
Don't love the gloss neck finish though...
When I got my first short scale I had to learn that it sounds best when your attack is soft. The strings seem to react better.
I would agree!
I don’t know guys. My fender mustang mij has a great raspy thing when you hit the shit out of it.
Especially that low E.. I do whack it but too much makes it go sharp.
Hi. Whats the brand of strings that you are using? Thanks
Hey Johnny
How often do you change strings on your short scales?
Asking as a Roundwound user
Had the same mistakes with the shortscale strings :(
If you're going to keep it try out the Curtis Novak Mustang Fat pickup, it's a lovely thing
Ooooh. Thanks for the rec!
@@JonnyDibbleYeah, I think these are imminently fixable, new pots, even the Seymour Duncan pickup would be a bump up, and low tension flats, like the La Bella's in the green package. But regarding pickups, if I'm going to spend $100 I might as well spend $150 on handwounds. (But not dad-rock handwounds...)
I enjoyed the PJ Mustangs I’ve tried, but the original Mustang pickup is a big NO for me.
Different tastes is what makes music so diverse after all!
Would you recommend one!!I'm tempted with flats!
Yes I would recommend overall ☺️
@@JonnyDibble thanx Johnny👍
How does it compare to the Squier Bronco?
You look like the lovechild of Guy Pierce and Michael Fassbender...
Thats a compliment btw.
I’m really GASsing for a mustang for a while. This or the Rascal? Tough decision.
The Rascal would be my choice!
@@JonnyDibble thanks, mate!
Interesting review. When you mention that one must use medium scale strings, does that apply to all Mustang basses, including the US and MIM models? Thanks.
I believe so
No worries. I'll never make the mistake of buying a Squire 😁
I've generally had fantastic experiences 😁 (with some exceptions)
@Jonny Dibble Yeah you've been able to make some of them sound good with your hard picking I just personally haven't... mainly going back to when I played guitar. 2-3 strum's and the whole damn thing was outta tune. I did see those newer ones with the good looking pickups in a store and I came close to trying one out but after seeing your disastrous adventures with those things I'll stick to my script. I'm not a fan of fender basses in general though. They're not my style. That stingray you got, THAT'S my style!
@@JAYZIGGY5Style of bass is purely personal choice but nothing wrong with the Fender classics :) Squiers are good budget option for sure but I guess I’d always have that feeling - damn it’s a good bass but it’s not Fender ;) I’m a bit biased because I only use Fenders though ha ha
@@ArturBFPV squier is only good part of fender atm (with the dogshit golden shower bass fender released)
also fender japan
the Sire U5 is the only short scale worth buying
I've heard great things!
Gretsch Junior Jet II 😎
Some Squier Bronco basses are good. 2011 made.
They've just re-released it!
Fantástico !
Raise the action and you won't sound like crap. And lose the dirt pedal.
Dirty boy for life
D'Addario Chromes aren't real flats and do not sound like real flats. Bad comparison. Go with La Bella Deep Talkin' flats next time, a world of difference!
This is a bass that needs flatwound strings
Made the mistake of buying a squier classic vibe 70s jazz bass new lil over a year ago as a spare. It’s not playable. Frets cut your hand, multiple high and lose frets. Terrible experience. Fender is no help even though it has a 2yr warranty. Seller said sorry it’s past the 45day return mark. Save yourself the headache and pass on these toy instruments. By the time you modify this toy you could have bought a much better instrument to begin with. I’ll stick with my 16yr old Ibanez and continue to look for more exactly like it.
These basses sound really dull.