To answer your question about Stolas seeming weak here. I think it’s context. The DORKS situation was an emergency and he needed to act against a hostile force. Here, he’s trying to be discrete and avoid going full demon to find Via. At least that’s my interpretation.
Yea..i imagine even with "limited powers on earth" hes still much stronger than any human. If he really wanted to THROW that bottle of water, he would have lol
Also, here he is not near the grimoire so can't pull on it's magic to manifest on Earth. Back when facing DHORKS, the grimoire was in the same location as he manifested.
i dont really get it tbh. it should be pretty obvious lol. her mother literally put a hit out on her father. if his mother had his way, stolas would be dead and his promise wouldnt have been kept all the same. its weird because it seems like she wants her dads attention, but ignores it when he gives it, and then wants him to stick around to be abused/murdered.
@jg767 Well, the first time we see him give her attention is him taking her to a place for literal kids even when she's saying no... So why would she feel loved/cared about when the parent in question is not actively listening? And I'm pretty sure Stolas has had a really hard time keeping up caring for Via due to the constant fighting between him and his wife. Therefor Octavia sees it as he'd rather spend time on fighting with his wife than care for her. And just because WE know that her mom put a hit on her father does not mean she knows... Characters aren't all-knowing.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 they both feel for each other, but neither knows how to go about it differently than their originally arranged relationship, since Stolas never had a relationship before being plunged into his arranged marriage and Blitz doesnt believe that Stolas wants him for anything more than his dick. all in all it's a sad situation, but hopefully they can find a way to make it work and then Via and Loony can be step-sisters.
"Why does he hate her more than he loves me?" That line is just so heartbreaking and any kid who goes through a messy divorce and abusive family life can completely relate to that.
That hesitation on Blitzo's "N-No" before his meltdown was so raw and heart breaking to hear, wasn't expecting to hear such a damaged voice, especially from an amazing talent like Brandon Rogers.
The flashback of Loona in the orphanage (pound? Pound-phanage?) brings tears to my eyes every time. She's scared, and the world has taught her not to trust anyone or anything, so she acts out in self-defense... and then everyone blames her for acting out and gives her more reason not to trust them. After seeing her backstory, the whole argument she had with Blitzø at the start of the episode hits harder. "If I'm so terrible, why not just grow a pair and replace me?!" Because that's all she's ever known: people responding to her "attitude" by giving her away or counting the days until they can get rid of her. She's confirmed to be 22, and she was adopted when she was almost 18, so she's been with Blitzø at least 4 years, but she's still waiting for the day he's going to get tired of her and throw her away 😢
There are posters scattered around in the episode, which say that the LA water is made of 2% sewer overflow and 98% literal acid. So that explains why the producer guy started melting as soon as the "water" came in contact with him.
My headcanon for the plothole you mentioned with Stolas' powers is that he actually possessed the D.O.R.K.S. and had them properly summon him in a ritual. So he was technically still in Hell and had his powers fully.
Eh, Stolas says his powers are limited and Blitz quips it's because he can't memorize his spells, which Stolas snaps back at. Stolas has powers in the human realm with or without his book, it's just that he can't remember all of them. Possessing and being nightmare fuel would be something he likely memorized, whereas other things like human disguises wouldn't be
@@Chokah The point of comparison what not needing to remeber phone numbers because you have a contact list in your phone for that. He doesnt need to memorize his spells, he has a book for that.
@@rakaydosdraj8405 was thinking of how he may have needed the Circle to be summoned into DHORK HQ but he could show his full Demon "form" there because Loona had the book in the room with him.
It’s also used for a child leaving the foster system, which I think is closer here, but an 18 year old who has bounced from group home to foster family does need support.
Something i've just noticed by watching this episode multiple times. Octavia just killed the real Brandon Ragers, when she opend the portal in the first place. Also "Brandon Rogers" is the voiceactor of Blitz 😀 Hellhound Pound looked like a prison, well it kinda is, when you look at some real pounds once in a time. And i'm not a dog-person but that was heartbreaking... I guess Loona holds some serious grudge against her real dad or something like that..
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Ragers ! Rogers is the voceactor. Ragers was the character with the big ears. That's why "he" was late to the set and Blitz tried to disguises as him.
Some fun things i noticed: The guy who rips his shirt off that says Brennan Ragers on his chest is the same guy from Ep3 that rips his shirt off that says Verosika on his chest The girl that screams when the studio set catches on fire is the same girl that screams during Ep3 when the monster fish splatters blood all over everyone Stolas grabs a pair of red sunglasses to put on his head because he doesnt like the feeling of not having his other pair of eyes and im sure someone else mentioned it, but ill put it here anyways. Brennan Ragers is a reference to Brandon Rogers, who is the Voice actor for Blitz
It seems butter sweet of Loona and Octavia having a sisterly bond and can relate each other once their fathers are troubling. 🥲 also it seems interesting to say that Loona seem to grow a lot throughout the series and show small smiles of her father being silly without him noticing. So I can’t wait to see your reaction to big news coming this Halloween and it might be Hazbin Hotel news coming. It might be a trailer or something bigger.
"Why does he hate her more, than he loves me?!"... that is a deep line indeed... And i've been there. I have Loonie's attitude, and i totally understand Octavia. But all this happens, when you don't listen/talk to your kids. No matter the age. Never leave them alone with there problems and emotions.
facts, Stella needs to go away and stay away so they can bond more, rather than her just causing drama. additionally instead of B I T C H, i would've spelled C U N T when referring to Stella...
I keep thinking that this might be one of my favorite episodes now cuz it's yet another one of those that have stuck in my head for a week now. There is so many interesting things I find in this. One of the biggest things I think about when I saw this the first time is how when both of your parents start to hate each other there is no way as the child of those parents that you can come out in a "un-damaged" way. I know a lot of people say that their parents divorce ruined parts of their lives, I can say from experience that the other option isn't much better. My parents straight up hate each other for the most part and when I grew up it was constant screaming matches but they decided to stay together because me and my brother already came from a broken family where our parents had split up. And the one thing I learned is that it always seemed like whatever they hated each other for at the moment teneded to trickle down onto me especially. I learned quiet quickly to stay away and hide when they were arguing. And here is one of the other things I fascinating about this episode. I personally developed a lot of anger issues and at the same time if my parents were screaming at me I would make myself as small of a target as possible, not because I thought they might hit me but because it became an instict, and those are 2 things I see in Loona during Blitz's flashback. She lashes out in anger against the other kid in her cell because it seems like the other kid is pushing her to do get angry trying to get a reaction out of her. Then she lashes out and the second after she huddles into the corner and it looks like she is trying to make herself a small of a target as possible. And now while I'm no professional that to me screams of signs that Loona might have experienced some form of abuse. So I think that Loona isn't just being cold against the others because she wants too I personally think its more likely that she feels like she can't be seen as "vulnerable" but then when she talks to Octavia at the observatory she seems to say all of the right things to make Octavia feel better and when she finally gets her lighter to work which has an IMP branding on it I think she kinda realizes that she isn't strictly talking to Octavia she is partially talking about Blitz and how she might actually feel towards him although she can't express it. It's an interesting thing that once again I have personal experience with, you tell others things to make them feel better, things that secretly you want to hear yourself although you might not be able to express it for fear of coming of as vulnerable. EDIT: About Stolas in the Dhorks episode, now I don't know for certain but the shape he takes on during Dhorks when rescuing blitz that is him showing off what happens when the people he cares about is threatened. From my understanding the demonkind Stolas is based on is mostly non-violent and taught humans about the stars. I also think that he only takes on that form when he thinks someone he cares for might be in actual danger is shown by when he enters blitz's office he is terrified at the fact that Blitz has told him that his daughter is "who the fuck knows where" which he takes as that she might be in danger. And while I can't back this up I feel like it also shows when Blitz is being attacked at the tv studio Stolas answer is to throw a water bottle rather than go full demon mode because he seems to know that Blitz isn't actually in danger.
There are a LOT of hidden easter eggs in this episode: First of all: THE POSTERS warning people not to drink the water as it is 2% sewage and 98% ACID! This is why the producer got burned so badly 2nd of all: Almost everyone has not paid attention to what was in Loona's cell. There is a frame where she has a drawing of her and her previous owner(?) when she was younger... most likely he abandoned her and put into theorphanage 3rd thing: Loona was counting down days. Most likely to the day she gets out of the orphanage or someone adopts her 4th thing: Randon Ragers - Brandon Rogers 5th thing: the guy Octavia landed on and killed when she teleported was the real Randon Ragers 6th thing: if you payclose attention, you can see a Verosika keychain when Moxxie was looking at the art 7th thing: horses... a lot of horses.. I think that is all of the major ones that people have spotted...
The only thing that doesn’t make sense with the water is that it’s bottled water. I guess it could still be local water, or the studio was cheap enough to just fill the bottled water with tap 😆 🤗
In the Dhorks episode, Stolas performed his own ritual to summon himself into the human world. By performing said ritual, he's bound by it to not bring harm to agents 1 and 2, so the most he could do is scare them, which is really all he did before chastising the IMP squad and leaving. Here, he's nowhere near his book, and while he can disguise itself as it seems to be a relatively simple power most non imp demons have, he can't extend that power to others.
I'd say most imps can do it, too, considering how often others have scolded the team for not using disguises. It's just our team that doesn't have any.
I mean imagine how pissed stolas was already from the call with his ex wife and shortly after blutz calls him to tell him he lost the book. Yeah i think I'd go ballistic too
Notes and thoughts in chronological order because I'm lazy to time stamp things: > Azathoth’s Tears, according to Stolas, this phenomenon was due to the tears of a “long-forgotten colossus”, we could assume that the Hazbin/Helluva Universe seems to have “Eldritch Beings” reside within. > Just a side note, checking the HP Lovecraft wiki, Azathoth is an Outer God and a supreme omnipotent being, he even has a title called “Daemon Sultan” > Octavia smiling while covered by the blanket makes her look really cute > Seeing as Octavia wakes up excited and rather happy, it shows that she is really looking forward to the event that she had marked on her calendar, granted we only saw her wake up grumpy once in ep2, but we could assume that she has been waking up grumpy after the events of the “Not Divorced Party” > Stolas seem to be more absorbed in arguing against Stella that he seemed to ignore his daughter's conundrum, although good on him to fight back against Stella after their discussion from the last episode > In the calendar in Blitzo’s office, there are words that say, “Murder Tiem”, “Observe Employeees”, “Pissing Contest”, “Commit Tax Fraud”, some iterations of killing a person, and lastly “Have The Talk” scribbled out in a number of days. We could speculate, “Observe Employeees” might have been the time when the Ozzies episode happened, so we could see a time jump happening between the aftermath of Ozzies and this episode. > Hal-9000? More like, Hel-9000 > In Blitzo’s office, bottom left we could see a certificate of some sort, a ticket to the left of it, both left and right side of the screen shows bloodied cards, bottom right shows the flyer of “The Incredible Blitzo” > In the puke, the guy throws up a condom > Octavia accidentally killing a person by landing on them > Reading the signs the protesters are waving, “Demons Walk Among Us”, “God Hates You Personally”, “To Hell” > Bitzo can seem to easily carry Loona with no problem > Stolas is so tall that he had to crouch down to exit the portal > Let’s keep note of the LA Water which is 98% literal acid > A somewhat of a magical girl transformation > The quills on Blitzo’s back move after he sees the transformation of the two, I think it’s mostly directed toward Stolas > My best thoughts on the interaction between Stolas and Blitzo, is that this is the first time they are talking to each other after Ozzie’s, and the stark difference in the way that they talk, being blunt and snarky, in contrast to S1E2 and S1E5, I think this is character development in some sort, I’m not sure > Haha, cartoon Brandon Rogers > Das a lot of furry art > Stolas being manhandled by a human and saying “Oh~ You are Stong~” > If we look back, the person that Octavia kills accidentally by falling on top of them was the actual Brennon Ragers, that’s why the producers said that he was missing for a long while > In the shop that Octavia looks at, at the right looks like a doll in a mix of the IT and Chucky, an Ouija board but for weed, and trinkets above that > Blitzo having performance issues along with anxiety about doing them, this links to his somewhat troubled past as seen in ep1 The Circus > Stolas seems to like watching Blitzo perform, even enjoying his joke even if others don’t, just like what happened in the previous episode when they Stolas first saw Blizo > Hellhounds are, again, at the bottom of Hell’s social hierarchy, even to the point that in an adoption center, this is their current living conditions > We could see in Loona’s cell, that there are child drawings of, presumably her, doing various things > This scene really shows how much Blitzo cares about Loona even if she doesn’t show it > My best guess as to why Blitzo chose Loona, even though he was looking for a family-friendly Hellhound, was because he sees himself in her, growing up unloved, alone, and never amounting to anything. Just like how Blitzo is never amounting in his circus career in an early age as shown in episode 1 of season 2 >The small ”Eh” of Stolas > Family Guy death pose > Stolas fell in love again, and Blitzo seems to have a six pack > Stolas seems to be blinded by the freedom of being separated from Stella > It’s implied, but Loona, even if she doesn’t show it, loves Blitzo as her dad > Sisters > I do think this is probably the first time both of them had met > Loona doesn’t know what fireworks are apparently > Here is a call back to the Pilot Episode, Moxie is indeed NOT easy to manage Final thoughts: > My best guess as to why there isn’t any mention of the incident in Ozzie’s is because it really isn’t the best time, Stolas is, right now, more worried about his daughter, the discussion of him and Blitzo’s conundrum could be placed upon a later date as now is not the time or place to do a thorough discussion > It’s also quite amazing that Stolas could chug 98% acid > It’s weird that some people ship Loona and Octavia, I mean, I see them having a platonic sisterly relationship, but any more than that is a nah. People really have to keep in mind that Octavia is still canonically 17 and Loona is somewhere in her early to mid 20s [correction, apparently Loona is 22 as said by Vivziepop] > Blitzo and Stolas are being the dads they never had > Might have missed a couple or even a lot of stuff….. Eh oh well
Yeah, I also get weirded out when people ship Octavia and Loona. Them becoming sisters feels like the natural progression of the show, especially with Blitzo and Stolas being likely to end up together by the end of the series (hopefully after at least a few more seasons)
Sisters from Loving Misters! 😂 This was genuinely a touching episode. It also showed the heart felt love Blitz actually had for Loona and his friends…he’s not a bad guy, just a fuck up lol.
At 17:22 when Octavia asked about that I had a personal opinion about this response “we can’t change of who we are in life it is hard for everyone to deal with. sometimes the people you love have to do things more important than the things they love to do with their kids.”
The animation in this episode is rather different from the animation we've seen in everything previous. It is much more emotive and... I don't know how to describe it, but I guess sweeping? Many transitions are handled by an arm wave, a sudden camera pan, jumps between characters often being done through those two characters making similar body movements despite being in different situations. There is also a great deal of emphasis on dynamic posing, even when it really isn't necessary. One scene that comes to mind is at 11:24, when Stolas looks like he goes from spread legs and leaning back like a Jojo character in one moment to standing upright and normal as you think he would be in that situation. It really draws the eye, where even if the characters are static your line of sight isn't typically staying at one point, it is constantly moving and taking in the scene you are being shown only just long enough before the camera moves and you have a new scene to digest. I'm not an artist, but that's my take on it. Animation is buttery smooth, though. Fast and frenetic in places, almost Disney levels of flowing in more emotional scenes. Loona's animation in particular during and after the Octavia talk comes to mind. Also this show is *really* good at hiding things in plain sight and using that line of sight mentality in the animation to draw your eye away from important details. For example, when we are shown the teleprompter at 11:31, the little girl that Blitzo claims was snorting drugs before the scene? There she is, bottom right corner, doing exactly that. On first viewing, our eyes are drawn to the crazy electrical surge that might have killed that poor guy. The show has done this in the past, but never to this level of detail where things like that are peppered throughout the entire episode with pretty much flawless precision. One last fun fact: Loona's lighter is obviously old and worn down, it barely works no matter how much she fights it. So why does she keep it? Because it has the IMP logo on it, meaning it was likely given to her by Blitzo a long time ago. She talks about fathers screwing up, but trying their best out of genuine love for their children. As she talks so warmly about this, that faulty lighter clicks on, and she smiles at the fire. Blitzo screws up so often with Loona, but everything he does is out of love for her and even someone as faulty as that lighter can do something right from time to time, making those moments all the more precious. That's the kind of subtle visuals that I adore in storytelling.
2 explanations: 1. I actually didn't get this on my first watch, but Blitzo is mistaken for "Brennan Ragers," which is a parody of Brendan Rogers, Blitzo's VA. 2. I did catch this one on my first watch, but I didn't connect the dots; The reason the water Stolas threw at the producer burned him so badly is because the water is 98% acid, as seen on many posters and newspapers throughout the episode. Edit: Was only 24 minutes into the video when I typed that, so now I know the first explanation was pointless. Hooray for gun-jumping!
I live the notion that L.A. water is just that bad it straight up melts a guy. Although time wise it wasn’t that long a guy that Blitz and Stolas had that fight that ended with Blitz crying himself to sleep and Stolas drinking until he passed out in the garden, it’s just kinda weird to me that that doesn’t get a mention. Other than that stellar episode.
Stolas recognized in S2E1 that Blitz didnt return his feelings. And in this episode, there was not one playful "blitzy!" remark. The closest we got was "If your acting on stage is HALF as good as (your acting) in bed," which was more in the nature of a pep talk AND acknowledged that "in bed" WAS "acting." But this isnt a healthy relationship. Blitz cant just break it off with Stolas because his whole business is dependent on Stolas's patronage. he "couldn't do it tonight" after having his previous relationship failures rubbed in his face, but he'll show up next full moon to fulfill his carnal duties. (which will probably be when Stolas brings the issue to a head.)
I feel like another thing that needs to be mentioned about the power ‘discrepancy’ is that if I remember correctly despite being powerful and capable of who knows what as we haven’t even seen the full capabilities of his power just a glimpse, he is actually a pacifist so he would much rather use intimidation and the like rather than actual physical force as he did with the D.O.R.K.S.
I really loved this episode and while it was good overall, I really think that the conversation between Loona and Octavia is the highlight of it: it gives us insight on Loona on a level we never had before and put the basis for a very strong sisterly bond that I have no doubt we'll see more of in future episodes. For the "Stolas power level" thing I think that this is a different occasion that has to do with how Stolas gains access to the human world: in this episode he had to create a portal and step through by his own means, while in "Thruth seekers" he manipulated the corpses of the dead agents into drowing his summoning circle, "inviting him" into the realm of the living. Of course this is only a theory, but we are talking about demons and this kind of "magic galateo" is everywhere in anything related to mythical beings (think about how vampire cannot enter a home if not invited first, or how the tikbalang cannot affect you if you wear your clothes insideout).
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Absolutely! Did you catch the fact that the guy that pukes and dies in front of Octavia when she arrives in the living world is the one that Blitz(o) ends up impersonating? Or the fact that there are numerous posters in the background of the episode stating that L.A. water is something like 98% pure acid, leading to what happens to the director guy? Gotta love Viv and this level of detail.
Dont take this as absolute fact but I BELIEVE the reason Stolas was able to be so powerful in the DORKS episode is because if you watch the episode he makes the humans create a summoning circle and summon him DIRECTLY into the human world which I suspect is different than entering the human world un-invited or without the grimoire. Also as always another highly enjoyable reaction to a fantastic series! I'll always enjoy your content so keep up the good work you two!!
I would say with Stolas's power, he was summoned through a ritual to probably have his powers. He possessed someone to do the ritual. This one he came in without his book or the ritual which contains a lot of his powers.
Stolas is a gentle soul, even in the DORKS episode he didn't even harm any of them. But I trully believe that, if Octavia would have been in actual danger... he would have torn L.A asunder ^^
I'm going with my headcanon, that the whole 'melting producer' scene was a shoutout to a Sons of Butcher song/episode, no matter what anyone else says. Also, that out of a sense of empathy, or atleast, appreciation for a beautiful moment, needing no other context, God in this setting, decided to do Octavia something of a favor after she & Loona had their talk. I'm getting major 'im just gonna HOPE they come to the right conclusion SOMEHOW' vibes from how he's been implied to be, between this show & Hazbin Hotel.. but something like parting the clouds for a moment? That wouldn't _hurt_ anything.
That doesn't sound like something God would do, considering the only thing we know about God in this universe was a sign in heaven during the CHERUB episode which quoted God as saying something like "ditch your loser friends".
@@IceMetalPunk like I said, I feel like he's been totally hands off. Heaven might be corrupt, but not him in this instance. But yeah I'm right there with you otherwise.
Don't know if you noticed but at 10:52 the dead guy cut in half is the same one from the Cherub song at the part where it says sit right back and let us bless a soul for you.
I feel it is a little jarring that the show left the rift between Blitz and Stolas from the finale of the previous untouched. Not only untouched, but entirely leapfrogged over. I really, really, really hope we get at least SOME closure to those events and soon!! In my opinion it should've been addressed on this episode, or on the first episode. I feel they need to pull something special to justify not touching on it sooner if they do (They have to, right??!) finally address the issue on the next episode. I do love Octavia and Loona teaming up. I think they make a great team up. This episode really did highlight how the way hellhounds are treated is kinda messed up. They are fully sentient, but still treated like animals. They are technically even lower than imps on the hell's caste system, but still... sheesh. I suppose that makes Octavias friendship with Loona quite poignant in a way. She is after all royalty and a safety backup heir for the throne while Loona is just a hellhound. Quite similar in a way with Stolas and Blitz, just... platonic. For now at least. As for Stolas taking a more timid approach; there is a logical explanation. The hell beings aren't supposed to be messing around in the mortal world. In the summer break beach episode and in the DHORKS episode it was emphasized how Stolas would get in trouble if it was found out that he's letting Blitz use the grimoire, so this would naturally limit Stolas' powers as if he did, he'd get in real trouble with Satan.
The not addressing the issue directly didn’t bother us. Blitz clearly was scared to call Stolas for multiple reasons and both of them are emotionally repressed so it would make sense for them to not want to address it and just act like everything is back to “normal” Plus there was supposed to be a part 2 to that season finale where we imagine they make up or at least address it. Hoping that is still coming 🤗😊
in this case there was something more important on Stolas' mind, the only thing that matters more to him than Blitz i might add. also they both F'd up and caused the rift in the first place, neither one knows who should be addressing it first, either way now wasnt the time for that.
A couple of things no one has said so far: a 17 year old human being dumped down in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard probably would feel very disoriented, unless they came from another big city, and even then. Also, you’ll notice both Stolas and Octavia panting with their mouths open when they’re angry? Owls do that.
Concerning Stolas and his power levels on Earth: I think there are several factors here. It's a common factor in tales of demons and eldritch horrors that their power is more powerful when they are physically in their home dimension. Often this is explained that the being draws on the energies of their home reality and since Earth is so different. Another common factor is for demons to be tied to an object, a statue, amulet or statue are most popular items. The item would be needed for them to either(or both) manifest their powers on Earth while they are physically in hell (or other dimension) or to physically manifest on Earth. Another way for demons to manifest is with a summoning circle. In episode with DHORKS, at first Stolas was still in Hell and he manifested his power in the same room the grimoire was to possess the dead agents to make them write/draw a summoning circle. It was that circle that allowed him to physically manifest on Earth. Do note that the biggest show of his power (flying TV screens, animated dead agents and possession) were when he was physically still in Hell and was just manifesting his powers on Earth. Once the dead agents finished the circle and Stolas physically manifested (Agent 2 "vomited" the darkness that he formed from) then Stolas did NOT show those awesome powers.
I thought Dhorks will be in the episode and thought once they see Octavia, they will try to go after her also, i hope agent 2 gets a fear of Octavia and other owls due what Stolas did to her. What I like the episode is seeing Octavia again and bonding with Loona. Hope they continue to bond. LA is terrible. IMP feels right at home.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Moxxie got into LA too well and buying cheap stuff. Moxxie was enjoying seeing Blitz get beat up by Loona and Blitz giving her the talk. Loona had to clean up the mess since it was her fault for not telling IMP that Octavia was in the building before she took the book.
Seeing Loona in that cell curling into a ball hit me the most. I can relate more to Octavia but that adoption scene was too much. It's why she's so vulgar and tough. She had to be.
Ye the Demon form that Stolas had before is a bit of a plot hole but this was still a good episode. I'm loving how Stolas focused this season is, and based on what's been teased from the team, we're gonna get a lot more about him
Yeah we are glad Stolas is a bigger focus now as well. Enjoyed his character. Just feels like they need to close some storylines. The Dhorks, cherubs, assassination plot. Lots of things cooking 😀
I think Stolas's powers in addition to needing the book for somethings, are limited on earth by law, of some kind. He's constantly mentioned not wanting to get in trouble, and 'lending the grimoire less than legally' line in episode 1, so even in the DHORKS episode, you'll notice the woman who's neck should have been broken was alive at the end, and he didn't kill or hurt any one himself.
Going back through season 1, as far as I can tell, it seems like the producer is Stolas' first human kill. At least, that we have seen. So will, "Eh!" be Stolas' war cry? 🤭
When seeing first episode i thought for a sec this season will keep the "full lore" wea atleast a couple episodes more talking about origins and that. Still it's haha to see the classic back again, even if i'd tend to skip the first episode, i'll get part of the messages
Lovebirds.....forget not that in this universe, although he might be a prince of hell (one of the 72 princes). He is still limited in power when on earth, especially when summoned....(remember the Key of Solomon) Therefore without the book, his power is rather restrained That is.....unless you’re a fallen angel of course like the Morningstar
Oke oke, gotta admit that despite the re-used weas i loved seeing how boludowood from Helluva has no differences at all with the irl hollywood. I relate so much to Moxxie, i always want to yoink atleast one souvenir (if it weren't for the fact, that i have no stonks to spend in cachivaches)
definitely, they really need to get on a better foot, Blitz thinks that Stolas only wants sex and Stolas thinks that Blitz doesnt have any feelings for him.
Loona is so lucky blitzo is so forgiving, I mean he adopted her despite her attitude and even puts up with her abuse like kicking him in the groin and hitting him with a book. Also he let her get away with her attitude to clients and ignored her attacking him for bringing it up. Anyone else would have abandoned her.
real talk, as someone who used to follow the official insta of the helluva broustons seeing Loona tracking Via thanks to the scooby doo like montage scrolling through her ig. i totally forgot #eartshit was an actual thing xD
You're not the only one to express this sentiment, so I'm pasting my responce to each one... Stolas recognized in S2E1 that Blitz didnt return his feelings. And in this episode, there was not one playful "blitzy!" remark. The closest we got was "If your acting on stage is HALF as good as (your acting) in bed," which was more in the nature of a pep talk AND acknowledged that "in bed" WAS "acting." But this isnt a healthy relationship. Blitz cant just break it off with Stolas because his whole business is dependent on Stolas's patronage. he "couldn't do it tonight" after having his previous relationship failures rubbed in his face, but he'll show up next full moon to fulfill his carnal duties. (which will probably be when Stolas brings the issue to a head.)
@@rakaydosdraj8405 Yeah that makes sense. I did notice he wasn't afraid to call Blitz out on not remembering things. I do hope they actually talk about it
there was supposed to be another episode in season 1 that they had copyright trouble with and seems like they still want to try and get it out but aren’t waiting so things might get cleared up there as well 🤗
On the stolas and dhorks episode. I don't quite agree with him being weak, but what got me was that in episode 6 stolas did not have book, and wanted to go to the human world, why didn't he just open a portal by himself and just do it that way. As we saw in this episode he can open portals without the grimoire, so the question is was that a continuity mistake, or was he just showing off in episode 6 to make them scared .
18:00 Hate knowing which kind of analogy was coming after seeing Loona try to lit an imp's zippo. Just hope everyone could have that conversation with a friend. in my case was a deep talk with a random dude i met in the bathroom, He noticed my sigh and for a reason decided to chit-chat, seconds later we both shaked hands wishing us luck reciprocately (it may be gross shaking a dude's hand after legiterally peeing to his side, but jojokes aside i till reflex about that day and try to follow his saying)
To answer your question about Stolas seeming weak here. I think it’s context. The DORKS situation was an emergency and he needed to act against a hostile force. Here, he’s trying to be discrete and avoid going full demon to find Via. At least that’s my interpretation.
Plus, most of what he pulled on the agents was done while he was still in hell before the summoning went through
@@Cabur_Skirata not to mention they were in a closed setting and not in public with many people
Yea..i imagine even with "limited powers on earth" hes still much stronger than any human. If he really wanted to THROW that bottle of water, he would have lol
Also, here he is not near the grimoire so can't pull on it's magic to manifest on Earth. Back when facing DHORKS, the grimoire was in the same location as he manifested.
that and he grew up with a silver spoon in his craw, so he couldnt physically fight his way out of a paper bag without using his demon powers,
"Why does he hate her more than he loves me." is just heart-breaking, I legit tear up from the delivery, every time.
Deep line. And just imagine..when she finds out what her Mother is about to do to Stolas...(Striker)
Indeed a powerful line 😢
i dont really get it tbh. it should be pretty obvious lol. her mother literally put a hit out on her father. if his mother had his way, stolas would be dead and his promise wouldnt have been kept all the same. its weird because it seems like she wants her dads attention, but ignores it when he gives it, and then wants him to stick around to be abused/murdered.
@@nullakjg767 pretty sure Octavia doesnt know about the hitman (Striker) her mom hired to kill her dad
@jg767 Well, the first time we see him give her attention is him taking her to a place for literal kids even when she's saying no... So why would she feel loved/cared about when the parent in question is not actively listening?
And I'm pretty sure Stolas has had a really hard time keeping up caring for Via due to the constant fighting between him and his wife. Therefor Octavia sees it as he'd rather spend time on fighting with his wife than care for her.
And just because WE know that her mom put a hit on her father does not mean she knows... Characters aren't all-knowing.
Its cute how Stolas still laughs at Blitz's jokes
He really loves Blitz 🥰
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 they both feel for each other, but neither knows how to go about it differently than their originally arranged relationship, since Stolas never had a relationship before being plunged into his arranged marriage and Blitz doesnt believe that Stolas wants him for anything more than his dick.
all in all it's a sad situation, but hopefully they can find a way to make it work and then Via and Loony can be step-sisters.
Stolas is adorable when he blushes
"Why does he hate her more than he loves me?"
That line is just so heartbreaking and any kid who goes through a messy divorce and abusive family life can completely relate to that.
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As a kid of a messy divorce who turned out emo and depressed, I can confirm that Octavia is my absolute favorite
The line “why does he hate her more than he loves me” really hit me deep in my core
That hesitation on Blitzo's "N-No" before his meltdown was so raw and heart breaking to hear, wasn't expecting to hear such a damaged voice, especially from an amazing talent like Brandon Rogers.
just shows that there are Actors and then there are ACTORS, which Brandon obviously is on the latter end of the spectrum.
The joke behind the Brandon Ragers is that the person that plays blitz is named Brandon Rogers and he’s an actor so I thought that was funny
The flashback of Loona in the orphanage (pound? Pound-phanage?) brings tears to my eyes every time. She's scared, and the world has taught her not to trust anyone or anything, so she acts out in self-defense... and then everyone blames her for acting out and gives her more reason not to trust them. After seeing her backstory, the whole argument she had with Blitzø at the start of the episode hits harder. "If I'm so terrible, why not just grow a pair and replace me?!" Because that's all she's ever known: people responding to her "attitude" by giving her away or counting the days until they can get rid of her. She's confirmed to be 22, and she was adopted when she was almost 18, so she's been with Blitzø at least 4 years, but she's still waiting for the day he's going to get tired of her and throw her away 😢
There are posters scattered around in the episode, which say that the LA water is made of 2% sewer overflow and 98% literal acid. So that explains why the producer guy started melting as soon as the "water" came in contact with him.
We missed those posters 😯 but also, wasn’t it bottled water 🤔🤗 That water is supposed to be direct from Fiji 😜
I do love that Stolas still laughs at Blitz's terrible jokes.
My headcanon for the plothole you mentioned with Stolas' powers is that he actually possessed the D.O.R.K.S. and had them properly summon him in a ritual. So he was technically still in Hell and had his powers fully.
Eh, Stolas says his powers are limited and Blitz quips it's because he can't memorize his spells, which Stolas snaps back at. Stolas has powers in the human realm with or without his book, it's just that he can't remember all of them. Possessing and being nightmare fuel would be something he likely memorized, whereas other things like human disguises wouldn't be
That and the book was IN the room with him once he was summoned. So he had access to it's power. Unlike here where it wasn't near him.
@@Chokah The point of comparison what not needing to remeber phone numbers because you have a contact list in your phone for that. He doesnt need to memorize his spells, he has a book for that.
@@rakaydosdraj8405 was thinking of how he may have needed the Circle to be summoned into DHORK HQ but he could show his full Demon "form" there because Loona had the book in the room with him.
@@Chokah I'm pretty sure he can do that anywhere he wants and he didi t in the human form to petrify the agents.
Aging out is a euphemism for being put down for a dog who has been in the shelter too long. So Blitz saved Loona's life.
It’s also used for a child leaving the foster system, which I think is closer here, but an 18 year old who has bounced from group home to foster family does need support.
Stella's "WHuuUUUT!" gets me every time.
indeed, it's quite british how she says it.
I like how she just makes pure bird noises in anger. Lol
Something i've just noticed by watching this episode multiple times. Octavia just killed the real Brandon Ragers, when she opend the portal in the first place.
Also "Brandon Rogers" is the voiceactor of Blitz 😀
Hellhound Pound looked like a prison, well it kinda is, when you look at some real pounds once in a time. And i'm not a dog-person but that was heartbreaking... I guess Loona holds some serious grudge against her real dad or something like that..
Didn’t notice that Octavia killed the real Brandon Rogers 😂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Ragers ! Rogers is the voceactor. Ragers was the character with the big ears. That's why "he" was late to the set and Blitz tried to disguises as him.
Some fun things i noticed:
The guy who rips his shirt off that says Brennan Ragers on his chest is the same guy from Ep3 that rips his shirt off that says Verosika on his chest
The girl that screams when the studio set catches on fire is the same girl that screams during Ep3 when the monster fish splatters blood all over everyone
Stolas grabs a pair of red sunglasses to put on his head because he doesnt like the feeling of not having his other pair of eyes
and im sure someone else mentioned it, but ill put it here anyways. Brennan Ragers is a reference to Brandon Rogers, who is the Voice actor for Blitz
Nice spotting the guy and girl being the same from episode 3
It seems butter sweet of Loona and Octavia having a sisterly bond and can relate each other once their fathers are troubling. 🥲 also it seems interesting to say that Loona seem to grow a lot throughout the series and show small smiles of her father being silly without him noticing.
So I can’t wait to see your reaction to big news coming this Halloween and it might be Hazbin Hotel news coming. It might be a trailer or something bigger.
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bone apple tea!
Looking forward to the Halloween news! Been waiting for Hazbin to officially begin 😁🤩
"Why does he hate her more, than he loves me?!"... that is a deep line indeed... And i've been there. I have Loonie's attitude, and i totally understand Octavia. But all this happens, when you don't listen/talk to your kids. No matter the age. Never leave them alone with there problems and emotions.
Very true. Communication is key in any relationship 😊
facts, Stella needs to go away and stay away so they can bond more, rather than her just causing drama. additionally instead of B I T C H, i would've spelled C U N T when referring to Stella...
"I will kill for you..until the day we die..." ... Awww 🥰 (Hope that is not foreshadowing for a big upcoming fight/war)
Blitz and Stolas are such great dads
L.A Water is 92% acid and 2% sewer waters. That's fact ! 😅
4:06 Luna like “I’m a hell hound I knew you was here before you hit the door. But you know what idc.”
My favorite joke on this was stolas holding the phone in one hand and Pringles in the other as Pringles holds the phone base
I keep thinking that this might be one of my favorite episodes now cuz it's yet another one of those that have stuck in my head for a week now. There is so many interesting things I find in this. One of the biggest things I think about when I saw this the first time is how when both of your parents start to hate each other there is no way as the child of those parents that you can come out in a "un-damaged" way. I know a lot of people say that their parents divorce ruined parts of their lives, I can say from experience that the other option isn't much better. My parents straight up hate each other for the most part and when I grew up it was constant screaming matches but they decided to stay together because me and my brother already came from a broken family where our parents had split up. And the one thing I learned is that it always seemed like whatever they hated each other for at the moment teneded to trickle down onto me especially. I learned quiet quickly to stay away and hide when they were arguing. And here is one of the other things I fascinating about this episode. I personally developed a lot of anger issues and at the same time if my parents were screaming at me I would make myself as small of a target as possible, not because I thought they might hit me but because it became an instict, and those are 2 things I see in Loona during Blitz's flashback. She lashes out in anger against the other kid in her cell because it seems like the other kid is pushing her to do get angry trying to get a reaction out of her. Then she lashes out and the second after she huddles into the corner and it looks like she is trying to make herself a small of a target as possible. And now while I'm no professional that to me screams of signs that Loona might have experienced some form of abuse. So I think that Loona isn't just being cold against the others because she wants too I personally think its more likely that she feels like she can't be seen as "vulnerable" but then when she talks to Octavia at the observatory she seems to say all of the right things to make Octavia feel better and when she finally gets her lighter to work which has an IMP branding on it I think she kinda realizes that she isn't strictly talking to Octavia she is partially talking about Blitz and how she might actually feel towards him although she can't express it. It's an interesting thing that once again I have personal experience with, you tell others things to make them feel better, things that secretly you want to hear yourself although you might not be able to express it for fear of coming of as vulnerable.
EDIT: About Stolas in the Dhorks episode, now I don't know for certain but the shape he takes on during Dhorks when rescuing blitz that is him showing off what happens when the people he cares about is threatened. From my understanding the demonkind Stolas is based on is mostly non-violent and taught humans about the stars. I also think that he only takes on that form when he thinks someone he cares for might be in actual danger is shown by when he enters blitz's office he is terrified at the fact that Blitz has told him that his daughter is "who the fuck knows where" which he takes as that she might be in danger. And while I can't back this up I feel like it also shows when Blitz is being attacked at the tv studio Stolas answer is to throw a water bottle rather than go full demon mode because he seems to know that Blitz isn't actually in danger.
Yeah there seems to be lot more to Loonas story before she reached the pound. 😢
There are a LOT of hidden easter eggs in this episode:
First of all: THE POSTERS warning people not to drink the water as it is 2% sewage and 98% ACID! This is why the producer got burned so badly
2nd of all: Almost everyone has not paid attention to what was in Loona's cell. There is a frame where she has a drawing of her and her previous owner(?) when she was younger... most likely he abandoned her and put into theorphanage
3rd thing: Loona was counting down days. Most likely to the day she gets out of the orphanage or someone adopts her
4th thing: Randon Ragers - Brandon Rogers
5th thing: the guy Octavia landed on and killed when she teleported was the real Randon Ragers
6th thing: if you payclose attention, you can see a Verosika keychain when Moxxie was looking at the art
7th thing: horses... a lot of horses..
I think that is all of the major ones that people have spotted...
The only thing that doesn’t make sense with the water is that it’s bottled water. I guess it could still be local water, or the studio was cheap enough to just fill the bottled water with tap 😆 🤗
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 The posters say "LA Water" is 98% acid. The bottled water is labeled LA Water brand. It's the same water from the warning.
Its sweet that Loona was rally trying to find Octavia. I guess cause she can sympathesize with her
In the Dhorks episode, Stolas performed his own ritual to summon himself into the human world. By performing said ritual, he's bound by it to not bring harm to agents 1 and 2, so the most he could do is scare them, which is really all he did before chastising the IMP squad and leaving. Here, he's nowhere near his book, and while he can disguise itself as it seems to be a relatively simple power most non imp demons have, he can't extend that power to others.
I'd say most imps can do it, too, considering how often others have scolded the team for not using disguises. It's just our team that doesn't have any.
I mean imagine how pissed stolas was already from the call with his ex wife and shortly after blutz calls him to tell him he lost the book. Yeah i think I'd go ballistic too
Notes and thoughts in chronological order because I'm lazy to time stamp things:
> Azathoth’s Tears, according to Stolas, this phenomenon was due to the tears of a “long-forgotten colossus”, we could assume that the Hazbin/Helluva Universe seems to have “Eldritch Beings” reside within.
> Just a side note, checking the HP Lovecraft wiki, Azathoth is an Outer God and a supreme omnipotent being, he even has a title called “Daemon Sultan”
> Octavia smiling while covered by the blanket makes her look really cute
> Seeing as Octavia wakes up excited and rather happy, it shows that she is really looking forward to the event that she had marked on her calendar, granted we only saw her wake up grumpy once in ep2, but we could assume that she has been waking up grumpy after the events of the “Not Divorced Party”
> Stolas seem to be more absorbed in arguing against Stella that he seemed to ignore his daughter's conundrum, although good on him to fight back against Stella after their discussion from the last episode
> In the calendar in Blitzo’s office, there are words that say, “Murder Tiem”, “Observe Employeees”, “Pissing Contest”, “Commit Tax Fraud”, some iterations of killing a person, and lastly “Have The Talk” scribbled out in a number of days. We could speculate, “Observe Employeees” might have been the time when the Ozzies episode happened, so we could see a time jump happening between the aftermath of Ozzies and this episode.
> Hal-9000? More like, Hel-9000
> In Blitzo’s office, bottom left we could see a certificate of some sort, a ticket to the left of it, both left and right side of the screen shows bloodied cards, bottom right shows the flyer of “The Incredible Blitzo”
> In the puke, the guy throws up a condom
> Octavia accidentally killing a person by landing on them
> Reading the signs the protesters are waving, “Demons Walk Among Us”, “God Hates You Personally”, “To Hell”
> Bitzo can seem to easily carry Loona with no problem
> Stolas is so tall that he had to crouch down to exit the portal
> Let’s keep note of the LA Water which is 98% literal acid
> A somewhat of a magical girl transformation
> The quills on Blitzo’s back move after he sees the transformation of the two, I think it’s mostly directed toward Stolas
> My best thoughts on the interaction between Stolas and Blitzo, is that this is the first time they are talking to each other after Ozzie’s, and the stark difference in the way that they talk, being blunt and snarky, in contrast to S1E2 and S1E5, I think this is character development in some sort, I’m not sure
> Haha, cartoon Brandon Rogers
> Das a lot of furry art
> Stolas being manhandled by a human and saying “Oh~ You are Stong~”
> If we look back, the person that Octavia kills accidentally by falling on top of them was the actual Brennon Ragers, that’s why the producers said that he was missing for a long while
> In the shop that Octavia looks at, at the right looks like a doll in a mix of the IT and Chucky, an Ouija board but for weed, and trinkets above that
> Blitzo having performance issues along with anxiety about doing them, this links to his somewhat troubled past as seen in ep1 The Circus
> Stolas seems to like watching Blitzo perform, even enjoying his joke even if others don’t, just like what happened in the previous episode when they Stolas first saw Blizo
> Hellhounds are, again, at the bottom of Hell’s social hierarchy, even to the point that in an adoption center, this is their current living conditions
> We could see in Loona’s cell, that there are child drawings of, presumably her, doing various things
> This scene really shows how much Blitzo cares about Loona even if she doesn’t show it
> My best guess as to why Blitzo chose Loona, even though he was looking for a family-friendly Hellhound, was because he sees himself in her, growing up unloved, alone, and never amounting to anything. Just like how Blitzo is never amounting in his circus career in an early age as shown in episode 1 of season 2
>The small ”Eh” of Stolas
> Family Guy death pose
> Stolas fell in love again, and Blitzo seems to have a six pack
> Stolas seems to be blinded by the freedom of being separated from Stella
> It’s implied, but Loona, even if she doesn’t show it, loves Blitzo as her dad
> Sisters
> I do think this is probably the first time both of them had met
> Loona doesn’t know what fireworks are apparently
> Here is a call back to the Pilot Episode, Moxie is indeed NOT easy to manage
Final thoughts:
> My best guess as to why there isn’t any mention of the incident in Ozzie’s is because it really isn’t the best time, Stolas is, right now, more worried about his daughter, the discussion of him and Blitzo’s conundrum could be placed upon a later date as now is not the time or place to do a thorough discussion
> It’s also quite amazing that Stolas could chug 98% acid
> It’s weird that some people ship Loona and Octavia, I mean, I see them having a platonic sisterly relationship, but any more than that is a nah. People really have to keep in mind that Octavia is still canonically 17 and Loona is somewhere in her early to mid 20s [correction, apparently Loona is 22 as said by Vivziepop]
> Blitzo and Stolas are being the dads they never had
> Might have missed a couple or even a lot of stuff….. Eh oh well
@@acrab6527 In an adoption center, and in poor conditions? I don't really think so
Yeah, I also get weirded out when people ship Octavia and Loona. Them becoming sisters feels like the natural progression of the show, especially with Blitzo and Stolas being likely to end up together by the end of the series (hopefully after at least a few more seasons)
Why does everyone think this is after ozzies???
@@GianniLantigua It's more like days after Ozzies
Great Analysis. Good work
Blitz seemed to care that Stolas was upset. Probably cause he's a dad too
both dads and Blitz DOES care aboit him, that was made clear when what was supposed to be a quickie turned into an all nighter.
6:16 I just noticed the imps are shaking scared at Stolas HAHAHA
Its rather ironic that that Hell has more wholesome messages than we do in this universe.......what a thought
Ah, Hollywood. One of the few places in the mortal realm our "heroes" can walk around in their full demon glory and be totally unnoticed.
Blitz seemed turned on by Stolas bringing up their times in bed. It was also cute how he winked at Stolas and pulled him away to find their daughters
Loona and Octavia make a good duo
Sisters from Loving Misters! 😂 This was genuinely a touching episode. It also showed the heart felt love Blitz actually had for Loona and his friends…he’s not a bad guy, just a fuck up lol.
At 17:22 when Octavia asked about that I had a personal opinion about this response “we can’t change of who we are in life it is hard for everyone to deal with. sometimes the people you love have to do things more important than the things they love to do with their kids.”
Stolas is good looking as a human and a bird
The animation in this episode is rather different from the animation we've seen in everything previous. It is much more emotive and... I don't know how to describe it, but I guess sweeping? Many transitions are handled by an arm wave, a sudden camera pan, jumps between characters often being done through those two characters making similar body movements despite being in different situations. There is also a great deal of emphasis on dynamic posing, even when it really isn't necessary.
One scene that comes to mind is at 11:24, when Stolas looks like he goes from spread legs and leaning back like a Jojo character in one moment to standing upright and normal as you think he would be in that situation. It really draws the eye, where even if the characters are static your line of sight isn't typically staying at one point, it is constantly moving and taking in the scene you are being shown only just long enough before the camera moves and you have a new scene to digest.
I'm not an artist, but that's my take on it. Animation is buttery smooth, though. Fast and frenetic in places, almost Disney levels of flowing in more emotional scenes. Loona's animation in particular during and after the Octavia talk comes to mind. Also this show is *really* good at hiding things in plain sight and using that line of sight mentality in the animation to draw your eye away from important details.
For example, when we are shown the teleprompter at 11:31, the little girl that Blitzo claims was snorting drugs before the scene? There she is, bottom right corner, doing exactly that. On first viewing, our eyes are drawn to the crazy electrical surge that might have killed that poor guy. The show has done this in the past, but never to this level of detail where things like that are peppered throughout the entire episode with pretty much flawless precision.
One last fun fact: Loona's lighter is obviously old and worn down, it barely works no matter how much she fights it. So why does she keep it? Because it has the IMP logo on it, meaning it was likely given to her by Blitzo a long time ago. She talks about fathers screwing up, but trying their best out of genuine love for their children. As she talks so warmly about this, that faulty lighter clicks on, and she smiles at the fire. Blitzo screws up so often with Loona, but everything he does is out of love for her and even someone as faulty as that lighter can do something right from time to time, making those moments all the more precious. That's the kind of subtle visuals that I adore in storytelling.
That’s a nice point on the lighter 😊 good spot
2 explanations:
1. I actually didn't get this on my first watch, but Blitzo is mistaken for "Brennan Ragers," which is a parody of Brendan Rogers, Blitzo's VA.
2. I did catch this one on my first watch, but I didn't connect the dots; The reason the water Stolas threw at the producer burned him so badly is because the water is 98% acid, as seen on many posters and newspapers throughout the episode.
Edit: Was only 24 minutes into the video when I typed that, so now I know the first explanation was pointless. Hooray for gun-jumping!
Haha, it’s all good. 🤗 At least you watched the discussion afterwards 😀🥳🥰
I do like how they are showing that Luna does like that blitzs actually likes and cares even though he messes it up alot
I live the notion that L.A. water is just that bad it straight up melts a guy. Although time wise it wasn’t that long a guy that Blitz and Stolas had that fight that ended with Blitz crying himself to sleep and Stolas drinking until he passed out in the garden, it’s just kinda weird to me that that doesn’t get a mention. Other than that stellar episode.
Stolas recognized in S2E1 that Blitz didnt return his feelings. And in this episode, there was not one playful "blitzy!" remark. The closest we got was "If your acting on stage is HALF as good as (your acting) in bed," which was more in the nature of a pep talk AND acknowledged that "in bed" WAS "acting."
But this isnt a healthy relationship. Blitz cant just break it off with Stolas because his whole business is dependent on Stolas's patronage. he "couldn't do it tonight" after having his previous relationship failures rubbed in his face, but he'll show up next full moon to fulfill his carnal duties. (which will probably be when Stolas brings the issue to a head.)
It’s an emergency. Everything gets put aside while Stolas finds his daughter.
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I feel like another thing that needs to be mentioned about the power ‘discrepancy’ is that if I remember correctly despite being powerful and capable of who knows what as we haven’t even seen the full capabilities of his power just a glimpse, he is actually a pacifist so he would much rather use intimidation and the like rather than actual physical force as he did with the D.O.R.K.S.
😎👍🙂 makes sense
I really loved this episode and while it was good overall, I really think that the conversation between Loona and Octavia is the highlight of it: it gives us insight on Loona on a level we never had before and put the basis for a very strong sisterly bond that I have no doubt we'll see more of in future episodes.
For the "Stolas power level" thing I think that this is a different occasion that has to do with how Stolas gains access to the human world: in this episode he had to create a portal and step through by his own means, while in "Thruth seekers" he manipulated the corpses of the dead agents into drowing his summoning circle, "inviting him" into the realm of the living.
Of course this is only a theory, but we are talking about demons and this kind of "magic galateo" is everywhere in anything related to mythical beings (think about how vampire cannot enter a home if not invited first, or how the tikbalang cannot affect you if you wear your clothes insideout).
Agreed the Loona and Octavia part were the best. Also probably one of those episodes that the more you watch the more you catch humor wise 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Absolutely! Did you catch the fact that the guy that pukes and dies in front of Octavia when she arrives in the living world is the one that Blitz(o) ends up impersonating? Or the fact that there are numerous posters in the background of the episode stating that L.A. water is something like 98% pure acid, leading to what happens to the director guy?
Gotta love Viv and this level of detail.
Dont take this as absolute fact but I BELIEVE the reason Stolas was able to be so powerful in the DORKS episode is because if you watch the episode he makes the humans create a summoning circle and summon him DIRECTLY into the human world which I suspect is different than entering the human world un-invited or without the grimoire.
Also as always another highly enjoyable reaction to a fantastic series! I'll always enjoy your content so keep up the good work you two!!
Thanks for helping explain it. We’re sure there is a reason, it just had been awhile since seeing that episode 🤗
Ya know
I haven't seen anyone mention Octavia turning her head a full freaking 180 to look at the picture in Blitzo's office.
I would say with Stolas's power, he was summoned through a ritual to probably have his powers. He possessed someone to do the ritual. This one he came in without his book or the ritual which contains a lot of his powers.
Stolas is a gentle soul, even in the DORKS episode he didn't even harm any of them.
But I trully believe that, if Octavia would have been in actual danger... he would have torn L.A asunder ^^
Also.. nobody was talking about it.. but can we please admire the suffering that poor Butler of Stolas' ? He get's abused since Season 1 Ep. 2
he gets paid enough to go to Ozzies, thou...
@@rakaydosdraj8405 And your point is?
@@GirlofCulture I mean, he hasn't quit yet. Something's keeping him here...
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Oh nice, been waiting for a reaction of this and it was definitely good. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
I've been waiting for this!
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10:38 the surreal optimism of Blitzkriego is so wholesomeness
I'm going with my headcanon, that the whole 'melting producer' scene was a shoutout to a Sons of Butcher song/episode, no matter what anyone else says.
Also, that out of a sense of empathy, or atleast, appreciation for a beautiful moment, needing no other context, God in this setting, decided to do Octavia something of a favor after she & Loona had their talk. I'm getting major 'im just gonna HOPE they come to the right conclusion SOMEHOW' vibes from how he's been implied to be, between this show & Hazbin Hotel.. but something like parting the clouds for a moment? That wouldn't _hurt_ anything.
That doesn't sound like something God would do, considering the only thing we know about God in this universe was a sign in heaven during the CHERUB episode which quoted God as saying something like "ditch your loser friends".
@@IceMetalPunk like I said, I feel like he's been totally hands off. Heaven might be corrupt, but not him in this instance. But yeah I'm right there with you otherwise.
The shipping between Loona and Octavia is real of course, but i see her much more as a big sister for Via. Wish i had as a teen. 😊
Yup. Big sister dynamic for sure 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 definitely, the shippers are reading too much into who will likely be step-sisters by the end of this series.
I thought that was rude of Moxxie to say that Loona doesn't do anything right considering she knew that Octavia went to LA
It's a call back to the pilot episode about their interactions.
@@BloodyWinterwolf Makes sense plus the don't always get along anyway
Don't know if you noticed but at 10:52 the dead guy cut in half is the same one from the Cherub song at the part where it says sit right back and let us bless a soul for you.
Blitz is a good person that he adopted Loona who was close to 17. Most peopple don't adopt people that old
Loona claimed she was nearly 18 in Ep.3 during her argument with Blitz.
I feel it is a little jarring that the show left the rift between Blitz and Stolas from the finale of the previous untouched.
Not only untouched, but entirely leapfrogged over.
I really, really, really hope we get at least SOME closure to those events and soon!! In my opinion it should've been addressed on this episode, or on the first episode.
I feel they need to pull something special to justify not touching on it sooner if they do (They have to, right??!) finally address the issue on the next episode.
I do love Octavia and Loona teaming up. I think they make a great team up.
This episode really did highlight how the way hellhounds are treated is kinda messed up. They are fully sentient, but still treated like animals.
They are technically even lower than imps on the hell's caste system, but still... sheesh.
I suppose that makes Octavias friendship with Loona quite poignant in a way. She is after all royalty and a safety backup heir for the throne while Loona is just a hellhound. Quite similar in a way with Stolas and Blitz, just... platonic. For now at least.
As for Stolas taking a more timid approach; there is a logical explanation. The hell beings aren't supposed to be messing around in the mortal world. In the summer break beach episode and in the DHORKS episode it was emphasized how Stolas would get in trouble if it was found out that he's letting Blitz use the grimoire, so this would naturally limit Stolas' powers as if he did, he'd get in real trouble with Satan.
The not addressing the issue directly didn’t bother us. Blitz clearly was scared to call Stolas for multiple reasons and both of them are emotionally repressed so it would make sense for them to not want to address it and just act like everything is back to “normal”
Plus there was supposed to be a part 2 to that season finale where we imagine they make up or at least address it. Hoping that is still coming 🤗😊
in this case there was something more important on Stolas' mind, the only thing that matters more to him than Blitz i might add. also they both F'd up and caused the rift in the first place, neither one knows who should be addressing it first, either way now wasnt the time for that.
Loona needs to smile more, she's got an amazing smile.
Blitz did think that Stolas looks hot as a human
Maybe because Stolas doesn't want Every Humans seeing his True Demon Form??
Hehe I've been waiting for this :D
Nice 😁🤗
Blitzo's stuf.. do nut steel it - Code 1234... Nooo why wasn't it 12345. It could be a Spaceball reference then 😆
That’s the same combination on my luggage! 😝
A couple of things no one has said so far: a 17 year old human being dumped down in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard probably would feel very disoriented, unless they came from another big city, and even then.
Also, you’ll notice both Stolas and Octavia panting with their mouths open when they’re angry? Owls do that.
Do you think Loona just smokes when she's upset and anxious?
Could definitely be a trigger 🤔
I love the Episode 💜
I love the conversation between Octavia & Loona so much 💜
Concerning Stolas and his power levels on Earth: I think there are several factors here.
It's a common factor in tales of demons and eldritch horrors that their power is more powerful when they are physically in their home dimension. Often this is explained that the being draws on the energies of their home reality and since Earth is so different.
Another common factor is for demons to be tied to an object, a statue, amulet or statue are most popular items. The item would be needed for them to either(or both) manifest their powers on Earth while they are physically in hell (or other dimension) or to physically manifest on Earth. Another way for demons to manifest is with a summoning circle.
In episode with DHORKS, at first Stolas was still in Hell and he manifested his power in the same room the grimoire was to possess the dead agents to make them write/draw a summoning circle. It was that circle that allowed him to physically manifest on Earth.
Do note that the biggest show of his power (flying TV screens, animated dead agents and possession) were when he was physically still in Hell and was just manifesting his powers on Earth. Once the dead agents finished the circle and Stolas physically manifested (Agent 2 "vomited" the darkness that he formed from) then Stolas did NOT show those awesome powers.
I thought Dhorks will be in the episode and thought once they see Octavia, they will try to go after her also, i hope agent 2 gets a fear of Octavia and other owls due what Stolas did to her.
What I like the episode is seeing Octavia again and bonding with Loona. Hope they continue to bond.
LA is terrible. IMP feels right at home.
Yeah Octavia and Loona scene was highlight 😊
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Moxxie got into LA too well and buying cheap stuff. Moxxie was enjoying seeing Blitz get beat up by Loona and Blitz giving her the talk. Loona had to clean up the mess since it was her fault for not telling IMP that Octavia was in the building before she took the book.
I always love your reactions, def. worth the wait :D
Thanks! 😊🤗
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Yw 😊
Seeing Loona in that cell curling into a ball hit me the most. I can relate more to Octavia but that adoption scene was too much. It's why she's so vulgar and tough. She had to be.
stolas would make a great documentary narrator😄
Agreed 🤩
Ye the Demon form that Stolas had before is a bit of a plot hole but this was still a good episode. I'm loving how Stolas focused this season is, and based on what's been teased from the team, we're gonna get a lot more about him
The animation got better for sure. But also some re-used animation. But thats okay.
Yeah we are glad Stolas is a bigger focus now as well. Enjoyed his character. Just feels like they need to close some storylines. The Dhorks, cherubs, assassination plot. Lots of things cooking 😀
I think Stolas's powers in addition to needing the book for somethings, are limited on earth by law, of some kind. He's constantly mentioned not wanting to get in trouble, and 'lending the grimoire less than legally' line in episode 1, so even in the DHORKS episode, you'll notice the woman who's neck should have been broken was alive at the end, and he didn't kill or hurt any one himself.
The water in LA is unsanitary so that's why that guy burned to death
I thought Octavia taking the book would strain Blitz and Stolas' relationship
if anything it brought them closer, especially after the Ozzie's incident...
Very good reaction
Glad you enjoyed it 🤗
Going back through season 1, as far as I can tell, it seems like the producer is Stolas' first human kill. At least, that we have seen. So will, "Eh!" be Stolas' war cry? 🤭
and now we play the waiting game again lol
Yup. It was so nice when we could watch it weekly to catch up. Now we must wait with everyone else 🤗
When seeing first episode i thought for a sec this season will keep the "full lore" wea atleast a couple episodes more talking about origins and that. Still it's haha to see the classic back again, even if i'd tend to skip the first episode, i'll get part of the messages
I recommend checking out the Fuelled Short Film at some point, it’s quite impressive.
Lovebirds.....forget not that in this universe, although he might be a prince of hell (one of the 72 princes).
He is still limited in power when on earth, especially when summoned....(remember the Key of Solomon)
Therefore without the book, his power is rather restrained
That is.....unless you’re a fallen angel of course like the Morningstar
😎👍🙂 Thanks for reminder 😀
If you couldn't tell, the "Brennon Ragers" thing was a joke about Stolas' voice actor who's named Brandon Rogers
you mean blitz's voice actor because stolas's voice actor it's bryce pinkham
Oke oke, gotta admit that despite the re-used weas i loved seeing how boludowood from Helluva has no differences at all with the irl hollywood. I relate so much to Moxxie, i always want to yoink atleast one souvenir (if it weren't for the fact, that i have no stonks to spend in cachivaches)
Maybe now that Stella is kicked out, Blitz and Stolas can work at having a better relationship
definitely, they really need to get on a better foot, Blitz thinks that Stolas only wants sex and Stolas thinks that Blitz doesnt have any feelings for him.
Damn I did not know Kanye was that desperate😂😂
Loona is so lucky blitzo is so forgiving, I mean he adopted her despite her attitude and even puts up with her abuse like kicking him in the groin and hitting him with a book. Also he let her get away with her attitude to clients and ignored her attacking him for bringing it up. Anyone else would have abandoned her.
he knows what it's what it's like to be given up on and not being loved.
@@UltimateGamerCC true but still eventually she’ll push him to much
@@bleachfan2.029 nope, disagree with that 1000%, this episode is proof of that.
@@UltimateGamerCC hope your right, loona is my favorite character and her bond with blizo is a good father daughter bond
@@bleachfan2.029 i know i'm right, i mean if he'll take the beatings AND the nutshot, he's not gonna give her up at all.
Honestly, I don't think I've ever empathized with a character as much as I have with Octavia.
real talk, as someone who used to follow the official insta of the helluva broustons seeing Loona tracking Via thanks to the scooby doo like montage scrolling through her ig.
i totally forgot #eartshit was an actual thing xD
“Brennon Ragers”…..Blitz voice is “Brandon Rodgers”
I'm surprised Blitz and Stolas aren't on the rocks considering 2z1 ad 1x7
You're not the only one to express this sentiment, so I'm pasting my responce to each one...
Stolas recognized in S2E1 that Blitz didnt return his feelings. And in this episode, there was not one playful "blitzy!" remark. The closest we got was "If your acting on stage is HALF as good as (your acting) in bed," which was more in the nature of a pep talk AND acknowledged that "in bed" WAS "acting."
But this isnt a healthy relationship. Blitz cant just break it off with Stolas because his whole business is dependent on Stolas's patronage. he "couldn't do it tonight" after having his previous relationship failures rubbed in his face, but he'll show up next full moon to fulfill his carnal duties. (which will probably be when Stolas brings the issue to a head.)
@@rakaydosdraj8405 Yeah that makes sense. I did notice he wasn't afraid to call Blitz out on not remembering things. I do hope they actually talk about it
there was supposed to be another episode in season 1 that they had copyright trouble with and seems like they still want to try and get it out but aren’t waiting so things might get cleared up there as well 🤗
love this episode i’m just waiting for this song to come on Spotify and I don’t just want any crappy version lol
Okay you guys should react to all the shadow of Mordor and shadow of war cinematics I know you guys say the trailer but the game is a masterpiece
the posters by 7:00 explain what hapened by 15:48
😎👍🙂 we missed those posters
Your videos are amazing have awesome day
Thanks 🥰😊🤗
U welcome
On the stolas and dhorks episode. I don't quite agree with him being weak, but what got me was that in episode 6 stolas did not have book, and wanted to go to the human world, why didn't he just open a portal by himself and just do it that way.
As we saw in this episode he can open portals without the grimoire, so the question is was that a continuity mistake, or was he just showing off in episode 6 to make them scared .
Hmm, good question. Maybe just showing off to make them scared 🤔
Brandon rangers hmmm I wonder who he is 😅
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18:00 Hate knowing which kind of analogy was coming after seeing Loona try to lit an imp's zippo. Just hope everyone could have that conversation with a friend. in my case was a deep talk with a random dude i met in the bathroom, He noticed my sigh and for a reason decided to chit-chat, seconds later we both shaked hands wishing us luck reciprocately (it may be gross shaking a dude's hand after legiterally peeing to his side, but jojokes aside i till reflex about that day and try to follow his saying)
I like helluva boss so much 💝🌺🙏🌟❤🤙💝🌺🙏🌟❤🤙