@@Sticker_By_NCT_127of course it works, because Steve is broken 😂. It’s just boring to watch, and there’s a reason you see so many unknown players doing well with Steve, because Steve is carrying them. Same thing with bayo in smash 4, so many players that popped off with her that came out of no where, and never to be seen again.
@@TheTvSmash I already got spoiled by looking at VGBootcamp's video list on their channel. I saw Big D didn't make it to semis and finals in the thumbnails.
@Toomuchmetal12 As much as I would love that, that would kind of not make sense from a game standpoint and balance. Rosalina has a bunch of Luma's from Galaxy so it makes sense, and one good swat from Luma can literally take Luma put. While some might say One swat from Nana is good to take her out too at least you can save her. Also comparing Luma to Nana is pretty big since Nana can do so much damage, help control neutral, ledgetrap better, do a 60% or even death to kill earlier, and help his recovery. Even though that may seem awesome, it seems kind of unbalanced if Nana comes back in 30 seconds especially with how I feel like Sopo can actually get more things done than Solo Rosa , but I ain't a Rosa main so who knows. For me Nana AI and maybe recovery is what I would love to buff about them.
@@gamenwatch6269 I understand how they're very different. But the truth is, people don't play icees for a reason. They're inconsistent due to the fact that once nana is gone, you lose so much as sopo. You're not useless, but the difficulty goes up a ton. I know Rosalina has a ton of Lumas in the story, but letting story get in the way of gameplay is bad. The timer shouldn't be as short as Luma, but a timer is an easier fix than better AI for nana against the best players in the world. Either have a timer or have it so after sopo does enough damage, the pterodactyl brings nana back in. SOMETHING.
@@gamenwatch6269a better Nana AI would be nice but wouldn’t you like if the final kill screen actually worked for the character? Yknow when the screen freezes and the nana hit doesn’t register
@@andrevanderlinden8722 At the 2024 GOML, Steve was literally banned in this tournament. And much of the top 8 was DLC characters too... despite them making up a very small portion of the overall roster. If there were only 5 DLC characters and you keep seeing many of them in the top 8 of major tournaments then it's obvious that they are overpowered. Especially if one of them is literally banned lol.
NOOOOOO!!!... hermanos maldita sea xd primero sisqui, luego Big D le remonta de forma espectacular y a lo ultimo a este loco se la suda y gana igual xf
Huge props to Onin. When he minecart’d for the 100th time without getting punished I was like 😱😱😱😱 So hype 🔥🔥🔥🔥
get over it
If that strategy works, it's the developer's fault for not patching the move, not his fault for using the most broken moves to win
@@Sticker_By_NCT_127 nintend0 doesnt give a single fuck about ultimate anymore
@@EROM0RI Yeah I know. Considering that though, the balance could honestly be much worse
@@Sticker_By_NCT_127of course it works, because Steve is broken 😂. It’s just boring to watch, and there’s a reason you see so many unknown players doing well with Steve, because Steve is carrying them. Same thing with bayo in smash 4, so many players that popped off with her that came out of no where, and never to be seen again.
Big D is a literal heroic genius for playing this matchup so well and with such heart, great showing!
I really wanted Big D to win he did so well
Spoilers bro
@@TheTvSmash I already got spoiled by looking at VGBootcamp's video list on their channel.
I saw Big D didn't make it to semis and finals in the thumbnails.
@@TheTvSmash you can't really avoid spoilers unless you're watching it live
if you don't want spoilers why are you in the comment section
@@KingObliv I’m on a mobile device. When you click videos it automatically shows the top comment. That comment was yours
@@TheTvSmashah yeah I didn't expect people to watch the game on mobile but still you can see losers semis you know who wins
4:35 what was nana cooking here 🤔
I was in the venue and the guy sitting next to me screamed 'NANA, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!' when that happened lol
I have the actual answer if you want it
SPOILER BLOCK HERE WE GO
Let’s go, it was too late to save me. Yay mobile
Unsuccessful sadly, I saw the winner of this in the losers semis video
Its a shame this game isnt getting any more patches. Steve is so fuckin busted, and ice climbers could use just a little something.
As an Icies Secondary, I'm pretty sure all of us Icies players just want better AI for Nana. Her AI is so garbage and predictable.
@@gamenwatch6269 they should have just made nana respawn after like 30 seconds kind of like Luma.
@Toomuchmetal12
As much as I would love that, that would kind of not make sense from a game standpoint and balance. Rosalina has a bunch of Luma's from Galaxy so it makes sense, and one good swat from Luma can literally take Luma put. While some might say One swat from Nana is good to take her out too at least you can save her. Also comparing Luma to Nana is pretty big since Nana can do so much damage, help control neutral, ledgetrap better, do a 60% or even death to kill earlier, and help his recovery. Even though that may seem awesome, it seems kind of unbalanced if Nana comes back in 30 seconds especially with how I feel like Sopo can actually get more things done than Solo Rosa , but I ain't a Rosa main so who knows.
For me Nana AI and maybe recovery is what I would love to buff about them.
@@gamenwatch6269 I understand how they're very different. But the truth is, people don't play icees for a reason. They're inconsistent due to the fact that once nana is gone, you lose so much as sopo. You're not useless, but the difficulty goes up a ton. I know Rosalina has a ton of Lumas in the story, but letting story get in the way of gameplay is bad. The timer shouldn't be as short as Luma, but a timer is an easier fix than better AI for nana against the best players in the world. Either have a timer or have it so after sopo does enough damage, the pterodactyl brings nana back in. SOMETHING.
@@gamenwatch6269a better Nana AI would be nice but wouldn’t you like if the final kill screen actually worked for the character? Yknow when the screen freezes and the nana hit doesn’t register
I love watching Big D's matches
This mu got me crying laughing bro like I’m suprised big d took a game 😂
Big D deserved this win
no
It would be funny if people would want Brawl Icies back just to destroy Steve in this game.
Lowkey I'll take Steve over Brawl Icies any day
even brawl icies wouldn't win this matchup. You have to actually get in if you want to wobble.
@@ditch_magnet you mean chain grab and Steve would have to approach after a while
For a matchup I really despise. Big D really played very well. Good stuff from Onin too.
lol Onin forgot he was playing a +3 mu then remembered again 😂
oh cool, so Big D gets zero credit for taking games
@@nathanlevesque7812 I hope that's a joke.
dlc characters ruined this game.
Grands was between two base roster characters
Not only DLC characters but also competitive smash bros predators.
@@andrevanderlinden8722 At the 2024 GOML, Steve was literally banned in this tournament. And much of the top 8 was DLC characters too... despite them making up a very small portion of the overall roster. If there were only 5 DLC characters and you keep seeing many of them in the top 8 of major tournaments then it's obvious that they are overpowered. Especially if one of them is literally banned lol.
@@andrevanderlinden8722 doing tricks on it
crybabies ruined this community
NOOOOOO!!!... hermanos maldita sea xd primero sisqui, luego Big D le remonta de forma espectacular y a lo ultimo a este loco se la suda y gana igual xf
Onin is so good…
His adaptation is remarkable
It's easy to adapt with a character this broken
@@EROM0RInot at top level like this, at low level yes though
Trash Steve
So happy for the win of onin❤❤
cant stand the ebonics with these commentators
Booooooooo
Then leave why are you here