@@donovanmccray6274 It might be derived from the Corvette engine the Caddy engine this year is dual overhead cam. Previously the DPi had an ECR pushrod engine
Seeing the Aussie V8 Supercar there would have been good. The Chevy has it’s own category so they do what they want really. An actual NASCAR set up for circuit would’ve been more interesting.
One of the things JB remarked on which this video makes apparent is that the 56 NASCAR is surprisingly grippy in high speed corners. An F1 car it ain't but it's not as much of a slouch (other than slow corners) as one would have expected. And as someone who's not a NASCAR fan, this has been weirdly fun to follow.
It's actually far quicker through the slow corners than anyone was expecting, the thing has a monstrous amount of mechanical grip and more than enough torque to outrun anything but the top prototypes off the slower corners. There's a hilarious clip of one of the LMP2s following it out of the final chicane, pulling out to pass it, then almost immediately slipping back behind it because it was starting to pull away the second the P2 left the massive hole it punches in the air.
The Camaro gapped the GTEs significantly, didn't die and put on a really surprising show for everyone; I really hope this doesn't remain a one-off for the combined anniversary and NASCAR and the FIA at least decides to allow a few teams to compete in their own class (Touring Stocks?) at future Le Mans events, if not integrating them into the WEC somehow
@@Red_Beard2798 technically it did die out(gearbox issues), but they got it back out on the track in time to still (notionally) take like 10th in GTE and 39th overall. For having to pull out of the race and rebuild the trans that aint fuckin bad.
Both engines use a cross plane crankshaft which is why they sound very similar, having said that, these engines are very different, the Cadillac engine has double overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder while the NASCAR engine has a single cam located in the block, it has 2 valves per cylinder, overhead valves and push rods!
@@maximborodyuk3773 ... While both Cadillac and Chevrolet are both General Motors brands, the LT6 will only be found in Chevrolet Corvettes and Cadillac wanted to develop their own racing engine!
@@maximborodyuk3773 yeah, you’d expect the Cadillac LMDh to have a flat plane crank, which is better for performance, especially since it’s racing at a higher level than the Corvette GTE, since production-based sports cars aren’t as fast as prototypes.
nope, standard Cup 358ci FI Ethanol fuel ECR engines Chevy V-8. Not a crossplane crank. That was asked and answered in the RACER videos. They did some air intake mods that would definitely be illegal in NASCAR but said internals are identical.
It feels good to hear a good old AMerican pushrod V-8 on such a historic track like LeMans. The pushrod has a 'meatier' sound, more raw and beastly. I love it. Not sure how competitive it is in class, but man it is fun to watch!
They provide the reason spectators at this year's Le Mans will have a smile on their face EVERY TIME they pass by. Thanks Cadillac and NASCAR for keeping the earth spinning :)
Camaro - 5.9L (358ci) R07 derived Pushrod 16v V8 V-Series.R - 5.5L(335ci) LMC55R DOHC 32v V8 Both engines are cross plane in design, meaning half the bank of cylinders is 90 degrees opposite of the other, which makes a perpendicular cross section on the crank shaft. This gives the signature rumble/roar American V8’s are known for, however AMG, Audi, Aston Martin, and Jaguar have raced such engines in their line up. Ferrari V8’s on the other hand are flat plane, meaning all pistons fire 180 degrees of each other on the crank, and thus gives a flat cross section on the crank shaft, and makes the signature howl/scream we’re used to from their offerings.
You're thinking position of the pistons physically from each other. This is in regards to the rotation of the crank (which is a madness of maths and meyham to wrap my head around given V style engines). The degrees in rotation I'm refering to is in relation to the crank itself, not the physical position of the pistons. Kinda hard to visualize, but picture a 90 degree V8 and visualize the crank shaft. For every 90 degrees of rotation in a cross plane engine, a piston fires. Where as in a flat plane, every 180 degrees of rotation on the crank is when a piston fires.
I listened to this in my recording studio on very high quality monitor speakers. The Garage 56 car covered a deeper low-frequency sound spectrum that can really be felt. It also seems to be a lower-revving engine, which makes sense due to the old-school, pushrod Chevy V-8 design. The Caddy V-Series.R also had nice low-frequency content, but it was also smoother sounding due to the higher revs of the DOHC V-8 they were using. Both both cars sounded great!
the g56 car is lower revving but not because of pushrods, gen6 cup cars used to churn out over 9.5k rpms and they had pushrods. these new gen cars are just inherently limited in rpms due to current nascar regulations
The engine sound is nearly identical, however the cadillac is runs about 300 rpm faster into the first corner (raising the pitch), and its exhaust configuration is different. The Cadillac's accentuates the higher partials and the Camaro's the route pitch and first partial.
Sound wise, I think it's just the rpm difference. Haven't dug into the garage 56 car yet but I know the Cadillac has some amazing tight gears with a nice high rev engine. I'd assume the Camaro is close but probably a little lower on the rpm range through the gears. All speculation by the way lol
I was at Le Mans and I can tell that the sound of nascar was the best of all and the loudest. You could guess it everytime it passes you, even if you are not looking
The Caddy is more refined on exh mgt...however, the G56 Bleu Beast Chevy brutal sound is insane in this field....I love that she ran LeMans....unreal, what a great run for the team and car!!!....LOVE IT...this from an ol lifetime Petty/Chrysler fan...!
The Caddy sounds like a refined V8, much like the Mercedes and other Euro V8's, but the Next-gen Camaro bellows like only an American Nascar-spec V8 can. Reminds me of the Panoz that also ran at Lemans.
The Chevy is an OHV motor while the Caddy is an OHC engine...but both have cross-plane cranks. Plus the exhaust path will be different. The Caddy sounds a little higher pitched. Similar sound comparisons can be made between a Camaro or Challenger and a Mustang or a Lexus V8 (RC, LC, or IS).
I don't know how to explain it because I'm not a major gearhead, but I like the Nascar better because it sounds like it has more "pop" or backfire to the revs. It sounds raw, while the Caddy sounds heavily tuned to not waste anything.
Yeah they need to make this car the standard for cup cars on road courses. Respect to the other hyper cars still sounding awesome even when compared to the Garage 56 monster
The Camaro is a little more splatty which I'm not crazy about. The Caddy sounds awesome and is quieter. Probably down to exhaust differences. Don't think the core engine would be much different.
If you go back to the late 90s early 2000s Cup cars had exhausts that were termed Boom tubes because they were so fucking loud and sounded so cool. And with the fact that Nascar fans like loud boomy exhausts you can feel from your nuts to your chest, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here.
Both engines use a cross plane crankshaft which is why they sound very similar, having said that, these engines are very different, the Cadillac engine has double overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder while the NASCAR engine has a single cam located in the block, it has 2 valves per cylinder, overhead valves and push rods!
@@byates59 I had no idea that the Caddy engine was DOHC and 4 valve. Just assumed it was an iteration of the Nascar engine. Never seen anything with engine type on the Caddy.
I was there for the race, the main difference is volume! The Nascar is insanely loud. It would actually hurt sometimes while the Cadillac was loud but never too much. The Nascar I would say felt more raw, the cadillac has a more calibrated sound, it felt as though the nascar's engine could blow up any second haha
It's all smiles per gallon, man and smiles it brought for me when I see it actually making it to the finish line despite having to deal with transmission issues
Both motors are flat plane GM V8's. Any difference in sound is likely due to their respective head design and exhaust configurations. Both sound awesome.
Both sound great ! DOHC 32V compared to single cam 16 valve. Been watching Nascar FOREVER,,,, and the car now doesn't corner like this 56 does ! Salute to the builders.
Amazing transition job they did, it was an actual race track car and not just a left turning car. Seems they've learned about tweaking the cars from having tracks like Sonoma, Watkins Glen and Mid Ohio in the NASCAR rotation.
The comaro sounds just like the current cup cars and compared to everything else on the track it sounds amazing in my opinion, but the cadillac sounds a lot like it of course it is still general motors but i think the cadillac sounds more like the old winston cup cars
Here's something terrifying for you, if 24h reliability wasn't a concern, that 5.9L pushrod engine could comfortably rev out past 9k RPM sustained. There's some absolute madman in New Zealand running a Shelby GT500 touring car with the Ford equivalent to this engine, and with only a couple dozen laps at most to worry about they've set the rev limiter at a staggering 11,000 RPM, producing roughly 950 horsepower.
Tbh I didn’t think someone would agree with that, it’s all in the exhaust they use, boom tubes had a distinct sound that just made the car sound RAW with power, idk what the NG car sounds like- it’s hard to describe
The V-Series sounds, like a hybrid, since it is. There is a little whistle/whine you can hear. As others have mentioned it sounds more refined and less 'crude' compared to the nascar
Both sound better than anything else on the grid. I think the Cadillac revs higher so it gets my vote👍🏻 Time for FIA to wake up and stop pursuing neutered combustion engines and hybrid power for all out unrestricted race engines!
Both sound FANTASTIC, YET, CADILLACS sound MORE REFINED AND THREATENING. CADILLACS SOUND MOST POTENT . . . WAKING EVERYBODY UP TO THE NEW KID IN TOWN . . . CAN'T WAIT FOR SATURDAY . . . Watching my Glick's also ( First of the Hypercars to be Announced ) can drive to the race, and driven home afterwards.
As does where the exhausts exit. The Cadillacs exit to the rear and upward, The Camaro exit at each side. I like the Caddy sound better but having said that, I am really impressed with Garage 56.
I do not know exactly how the Cadillac's exhaust is routed, but I do know the Cup car has very short headers and now that the exhaust exit on each side, the note when listening during a race is completely different for sure. To me, the Cup car sounds a little deeper and throatier. Are they in fact based on the same block? I didn't even dig into to that extent, I was just listening. Don't know much about the prototype cars but I do know quite a bit about the Cup cars.
the cup car is really beefy sounding just like the actual cup cars are. the shifts are okay sounding but i bet the downshifts sound awesome. the Cadillac is less beefy but they are definitely really similar.
The NASCAR car sounds crisper than the Caddy. I'm sure it has to do with the exhaust routing, the prototypes intricately design the exhaust system around the confined bodywork while NASCAR dumps it out as quick as possible. But they both sound sexy as hell, love me a throaty V8 exhaust note
Similar as they are based on the same initial LS design. However you can hear the clear difference in cubic inches. The Camaro Engine is making way more sauce.
@@cito1101 As it should. The Cadillac V8 is DOHC and 5.5L (335 cubic inches) producing around 650hp, whereas the Camaro is using a specially built R07 (358 Cubic inches to 400 cubic inches) pushrod V8 capable of around 1000hp.
@@josephmatuszak3855actually the gtp/lmdh/hypercars make "about" 670 hp measured at the axles (they have tq sensors on the axles so the series monitors real time power output). They make "about" 750 hp at crank bop dependent
@@cito1101 The two different configurations of crankshafts will put out exhaust pulses at different frequencies, therefore two V8 engines with same displacement ( bore and stroke), will sound different exhaust-wise.
I could be mistaken, but I believe I read the Garage56 entry is in the "Innovative Class". Just running against itself, without competition or a trophy. IMHO, it would be terrific if it finishes without major breakdowns, and completes a respectable number of laps. I believe Garage56 has the backing of Rick Hendricks. If this entry does well and generates enough interest from other Nascar teams, maybe just maybe the endurance/Nascar vehicles could have their own class in endurance racing! One can only dream.... Camaros - Mustangs - Camrys running LeMans along side Corvettes, Ferraris, Porsches, Aston Martins!
@@cito1101 I could be mistaken, but I believe I read the Garage56 entry is in the "Innovative Class". Just running against itself, without competition or a trophy. IMHO, it would be terrific if it finishes without major breakdowns, and completes a respectable number of laps. I believe Garage56 has the backing of Rick Hendricks. If this entry does well and generates enough interest from other Nascar teams, maybe just maybe the endurance/Nascar vehicles could have their own class in endurance racing! One can only dream.... Camaros - Mustangs - Camrys running LeMans along side Corvettes, Ferraris, Porsches, Aston Martins!
@@cito1101 everyone watching this car didn’t even support the corvette on there class win it can 39th out of 40 finishers . But I’m glad this sound it back can’t wait for mustang next year
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They're close, the Garage56 sounds like a cup car. The Caddy V-Series R sounds like the cup car but more refined. Love both sounds!
Yeah
Pretty sure the caddy’s V8 is derived the cup car
That Hendrick Chevy sure looks pinned though y'all
@@donovanmccray6274 It might be derived from the Corvette engine the Caddy engine this year is dual overhead cam. Previously the DPi had an ECR pushrod engine
Sounds like the old cup cars gen 4
Crazy to see the control when entering turns of the 56 NASCAR compared to it's Cup Series brother.
It's crazy
This car has much more aero enhancements for downforce verses a normal Cup car. And the wheels and tires are wider, again enhancing cornering ability.
Amen it's amazing to watch how tight it looks & basically no roll👍
Seeing the Aussie V8 Supercar there would have been good. The Chevy has it’s own category so they do what they want really. An actual NASCAR set up for circuit would’ve been more interesting.
@@davidbarnes6410 The cornerspeed differences would be way too large. You cant race a single car that acts like a road block for the entire field
They both sound 1,000x better than everything else on the circuit.
Sound very mean
Ferrari's sound is not bad
Well, that's a matter of opinion and has been debated for decades.
The Peugeot sounds like my old Washing machine😮
Jaguar V12 now there’s a sound😊
Previous Porsche was the best for me
One of the things JB remarked on which this video makes apparent is that the 56 NASCAR is surprisingly grippy in high speed corners. An F1 car it ain't but it's not as much of a slouch (other than slow corners) as one would have expected. And as someone who's not a NASCAR fan, this has been weirdly fun to follow.
Yeah, definitely gripped to the track
It's actually far quicker through the slow corners than anyone was expecting, the thing has a monstrous amount of mechanical grip and more than enough torque to outrun anything but the top prototypes off the slower corners. There's a hilarious clip of one of the LMP2s following it out of the final chicane, pulling out to pass it, then almost immediately slipping back behind it because it was starting to pull away the second the P2 left the massive hole it punches in the air.
The Camaro gapped the GTEs significantly, didn't die and put on a really surprising show for everyone; I really hope this doesn't remain a one-off for the combined anniversary and NASCAR and the FIA at least decides to allow a few teams to compete in their own class (Touring Stocks?) at future Le Mans events, if not integrating them into the WEC somehow
@@Red_Beard2798 technically it did die out(gearbox issues), but they got it back out on the track in time to still (notionally) take like 10th in GTE and 39th overall. For having to pull out of the race and rebuild the trans that aint fuckin bad.
@@claytonmachine12 a year development for gearbox should put it to full potential
Both engines use a cross plane crankshaft which is why they sound very similar, having said that, these engines are very different, the Cadillac engine has double overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder while the NASCAR engine has a single cam located in the block, it has 2 valves per cylinder, overhead valves and push rods!
interesting to see them using cross-plane instead of originally designed flat-plane in LT6.
Interesting
@@maximborodyuk3773 ... While both Cadillac and Chevrolet are both General Motors brands, the LT6 will only be found in Chevrolet Corvettes and Cadillac wanted to develop their own racing engine!
@@maximborodyuk3773 yeah, you’d expect the Cadillac LMDh to have a flat plane crank, which is better for performance, especially since it’s racing at a higher level than the Corvette GTE, since production-based sports cars aren’t as fast as prototypes.
nope, standard Cup 358ci FI Ethanol fuel ECR engines Chevy V-8. Not a crossplane crank. That was asked and answered in the RACER videos. They did some air intake mods that would definitely be illegal in NASCAR but said internals are identical.
Wow, the sound is almost similar! The Camaro's a lot more raw while the Cadillac's a bit more refined!
Yeah
I can't imagine that a lot of this will not get transferred back into the cup car at some point, no?
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@@NazriB I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing!
I personally prefer the Caddy, but the Camaro is good too.
I think it’s a shame we don’t get this sound quality on professional tv coverage! Thanks for sharing.
No worries!
The nascar car seems unreal, the downforce they managed to add and the insane brakes. Many months of hard work there
Yeah
It feels good to hear a good old AMerican pushrod V-8 on such a historic track like LeMans. The pushrod has a 'meatier' sound, more raw and beastly. I love it. Not sure how competitive it is in class, but man it is fun to watch!
I know right. Music to our ears
@@cito1101 Absolutely, especially down the Musilanne...breathtaking. On behalf of the American people, we demand MORE!
Don’t remember the C6R then
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They provide the reason spectators at this year's Le Mans will have a smile on their face EVERY TIME they pass by. Thanks Cadillac and NASCAR for keeping the earth spinning :)
Alright
Definitely not the same, the only thing that they have in common is that they both sound absolute incredible, 2 Beast engines
Yep
they sound very close, the cup car sounds a little more deep and bassy, while the caddy has almost a hum to it... both sound beautiful.
Yeah
Camaro - 5.9L (358ci) R07 derived Pushrod 16v V8
V-Series.R - 5.5L(335ci) LMC55R DOHC 32v V8
Both engines are cross plane in design, meaning half the bank of cylinders is 90 degrees opposite of the other, which makes a perpendicular cross section on the crank shaft. This gives the signature rumble/roar American V8’s are known for, however AMG, Audi, Aston Martin, and Jaguar have raced such engines in their line up.
Ferrari V8’s on the other hand are flat plane, meaning all pistons fire 180 degrees of each other on the crank, and thus gives a flat cross section on the crank shaft, and makes the signature howl/scream we’re used to from their offerings.
Ooooooo, ok
Exactly!
wait, i didn't quite get that: if the pistons fire 180 degree of each other, wouldn't that make it a boxer engine, rather than a V engine?
You're thinking position of the pistons physically from each other. This is in regards to the rotation of the crank (which is a madness of maths and meyham to wrap my head around given V style engines).
The degrees in rotation I'm refering to is in relation to the crank itself, not the physical position of the pistons.
Kinda hard to visualize, but picture a 90 degree V8 and visualize the crank shaft. For every 90 degrees of rotation in a cross plane engine, a piston fires. Where as in a flat plane, every 180 degrees of rotation on the crank is when a piston fires.
@@mrhatty0514 oh so it s the sequencing of the ignition/firing of the cylinders you refer to right? Got it
Thanks for the explanation
The Cad sounds a bit higher and the gearbox sounds quicker too... and I LOVE BOTH 🥰
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I listened to this in my recording studio on very high quality monitor speakers. The Garage 56 car covered a deeper low-frequency sound spectrum that can really be felt. It also seems to be a lower-revving engine, which makes sense due to the old-school, pushrod Chevy V-8 design. The Caddy V-Series.R also had nice low-frequency content, but it was also smoother sounding due to the higher revs of the DOHC V-8 they were using. Both both cars sounded great!
That's right. Probably different RPM's and exhaust too
the g56 car is lower revving but not because of pushrods, gen6 cup cars used to churn out over 9.5k rpms and they had pushrods. these new gen cars are just inherently limited in rpms due to current nascar regulations
The engine sound is nearly identical, however the cadillac is runs about 300 rpm faster into the first corner (raising the pitch), and its exhaust configuration is different. The Cadillac's accentuates the higher partials and the Camaro's the route pitch and first partial.
That's right
Sound wise, I think it's just the rpm difference. Haven't dug into the garage 56 car yet but I know the Cadillac has some amazing tight gears with a nice high rev engine. I'd assume the Camaro is close but probably a little lower on the rpm range through the gears. All speculation by the way lol
Yeah, that's what I thought as well
The Cadillac kind of reminds how the Gen 5 used to sound, specifically what comes to mind is qualifying at Michigan.
Definitely
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Not a million miles apart that's for sure, the way thst Nassar goes through those corners is insane. Nice one garage 56.👍👍👌👌💪💪👏👏👏
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I was at Le Mans and I can tell that the sound of nascar was the best of all and the loudest. You could guess it everytime it passes you, even if you are not looking
True
Dam close, both are American music!!!
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The Caddy is more refined on exh mgt...however, the G56 Bleu Beast Chevy brutal sound is insane in this field....I love that she ran LeMans....unreal, what a great run for the team and car!!!....LOVE IT...this from an ol lifetime Petty/Chrysler fan...!
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The Caddy sounds like a refined V8, much like the Mercedes and other Euro V8's, but the Next-gen Camaro bellows like only an American Nascar-spec V8 can. Reminds me of the Panoz that also ran at Lemans.
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The Chevy is an OHV motor while the Caddy is an OHC engine...but both have cross-plane cranks. Plus the exhaust path will be different. The Caddy sounds a little higher pitched. Similar sound comparisons can be made between a Camaro or Challenger and a Mustang or a Lexus V8 (RC, LC, or IS).
Interesting
I don't know how to explain it because I'm not a major gearhead, but I like the Nascar better because it sounds like it has more "pop" or backfire to the revs. It sounds raw, while the Caddy sounds heavily tuned to not waste anything.
True
Yeah they need to make this car the standard for cup cars on road courses.
Respect to the other hyper cars still sounding awesome even when compared to the Garage 56 monster
Yeah
They both look incredible!!
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Without reading all that comments, I think they both sound great. Picking one out is difficult though cause they look different
True
The Camaro is a little more splatty which I'm not crazy about. The Caddy sounds awesome and is quieter. Probably down to exhaust differences. Don't think the core engine would be much different.
Yeah, they're both V8 engines. So probably different exhaust
If you go back to the late 90s early 2000s Cup cars had exhausts that were termed Boom tubes because they were so fucking loud and sounded so cool.
And with the fact that Nascar fans like loud boomy exhausts you can feel from your nuts to your chest, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here.
Both engines use a cross plane crankshaft which is why they sound very similar, having said that, these engines are very different, the Cadillac engine has double overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder while the NASCAR engine has a single cam located in the block, it has 2 valves per cylinder, overhead valves and push rods!
@@byates59 I had no idea that the Caddy engine was DOHC and 4 valve. Just assumed it was an iteration of the Nascar engine. Never seen anything with engine type on the Caddy.
I was there for the race, the main difference is volume! The Nascar is insanely loud. It would actually hurt sometimes while the Cadillac was loud but never too much. The Nascar I would say felt more raw, the cadillac has a more calibrated sound, it felt as though the nascar's engine could blow up any second haha
Yeah. The Next-gen is a beast
It's all smiles per gallon, man
and smiles it brought for me when I see it actually making it to the finish line despite having to deal with transmission issues
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Love both .. But King - Cadi DPi
Yeah!!!
When the next gen car first came out last year, I thought it sounded a lot like the outgoing Cadillac DPi from onboard.
Very close
I love the sounds of both these monsters!!!!
Same
Very similar! The g56 slightly deeper 😮
That's right
Almost sound identical!!!! Just lovely!!!
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Both motors are flat plane GM V8's. Any difference in sound is likely due to their respective head design and exhaust configurations. Both sound awesome.
Yeah, I agree
They are cross plane, not flat plane
Both sound great ! DOHC 32V compared to single cam 16 valve. Been watching Nascar FOREVER,,,, and the car now doesn't corner like this 56 does ! Salute to the builders.
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Amazing transition job they did, it was an actual race track car and not just a left turning car. Seems they've learned about tweaking the cars from having tracks like Sonoma, Watkins Glen and Mid Ohio in the NASCAR rotation.
The comaro sounds just like the current cup cars and compared to everything else on the track it sounds amazing in my opinion, but the cadillac sounds a lot like it of course it is still general motors but i think the cadillac sounds more like the old winston cup cars
Yeah, the difference is the Exhaust and RPM's
Caddy sounds like it's revving a bit higher, so a slightly higher pitch. Both of them sounds very good though!
Yep
Here's something terrifying for you, if 24h reliability wasn't a concern, that 5.9L pushrod engine could comfortably rev out past 9k RPM sustained. There's some absolute madman in New Zealand running a Shelby GT500 touring car with the Ford equivalent to this engine, and with only a couple dozen laps at most to worry about they've set the rev limiter at a staggering 11,000 RPM, producing roughly 950 horsepower.
The Cadillac sounds more like the 6th gen stock car- which I miss dearly, and sounds WAY better then the NG car
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Tbh I didn’t think someone would agree with that, it’s all in the exhaust they use, boom tubes had a distinct sound that just made the car sound RAW with power, idk what the NG car sounds like- it’s hard to describe
The Cadillac did a little burnout right in front of me in the paddock at Sebring, thing sounds so good
Really?? Nice you got to see it
The V-Series sounds, like a hybrid, since it is. There is a little whistle/whine you can hear. As others have mentioned it sounds more refined and less 'crude' compared to the nascar
You're right
The LMDh hybrid systems aren't anywhere near loud enough to hear when the engine is running.
There is a difference.
Question answered.
The exhaust and RPM's
Both sound better than anything else on the grid. I think the Cadillac revs higher so it gets my vote👍🏻
Time for FIA to wake up and stop pursuing neutered combustion engines and hybrid power for all out unrestricted race engines!
That's true
Haha
In person the Nascar is probably way louder. But the Caddy is slightly quieter.
Agreed
Caddie Sounds better at speed, the Next Gen car sounds better at idle. both are orgasmic sounds though.
True that
At Le Mans everyone loved the nascar like the wildcard of the pack the Cadillac was also awesome both sounded far superior to the rest
Yeah. Everyone loved that
Crazy how that boat is only about 10 seconds off the pace of the fastest car
Wow
What transmission does the Camaro use? Does it use a paddle shifter??
Not sure, but I know they have 5 gears
Cadi sounds higher in pitch. Like it is running at higher RPM.
Yeah
Both sound FANTASTIC, YET, CADILLACS sound MORE REFINED AND THREATENING. CADILLACS SOUND MOST POTENT . . . WAKING EVERYBODY UP TO THE NEW KID IN TOWN . . . CAN'T WAIT FOR SATURDAY . . . Watching my Glick's also ( First of the Hypercars to be Announced ) can drive to the race, and driven home afterwards.
Yeah
Dang. I can barely distinguish them. They sound very much alike.
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They both have that cross-plane exhaust sound.
Both V8 engines too
arent the LMP/prototypes turbo charged?
Not sure
Best sounding V8 race car for me is still those old Sauber C9/C11s from the 90s. These cars definitely sound awesome though.
Yeah
Very similar. Are these cars using the same engine ?
They're both using V8 engines, probably different RPM's
Both sound great!!
I think so too!
The G56 is a an R07 cup car motor. The caddies are closer to production ls, iirc. The induction probably contributes the subtly different tones.
Yep. That's right
As does where the exhausts exit. The Cadillacs exit to the rear and upward, The Camaro exit at each side. I like the Caddy sound better but having said that, I am really impressed with Garage 56.
Can we add the Lynyrd Skynyrd Free Bird guitar solo to each and compare?
Interesting idea
Both sound great. Not as good as my Bulitt, but still really good
Yeah
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I do not know exactly how the Cadillac's exhaust is routed, but I do know the Cup car has very short headers and now that the exhaust exit on each side, the note when listening during a race is completely different for sure. To me, the Cup car sounds a little deeper and throatier. Are they in fact based on the same block? I didn't even dig into to that extent, I was just listening. Don't know much about the prototype cars but I do know quite a bit about the Cup cars.
They're both V8 engines, that's for sure
Very similar, but it the Caddy's revs climb quicker due to lower overall mass thus sounding more refined, IMO.
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I'm that the 24 and the next gen is so fucking loud. The Caddy sounds so badass down shifting
It's the different RPM's and exhaust they have
@@cito1101 to be honest the Vanwall hypercar gives the next Gen and Caddy a run for their money
Jeez I love both!
I know right.
Me too
Both sound awesome. Maybe the Cadillac sounds like it revs a bit higher.
Yeah, it does
Imagine how a Holman Moody 427 Ford sounded back in 67.😮
Wow!!
while both having the v8 sound, the 16 valve engine has a bit more a concussive tone, while the 32v is a bit smoother.
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I've been to the practice day at Le Mans and the Camaro is like 3 times louder than any other car in the race
Yeah, I've seen other people say that too. It's probably because of the exhaust the Next-gen has
Something about American cars and how a V8 roars is intense, regardless if it's the Cup Car or prototype.
V8's are insane
they sound the same but the cadilac sounds like it revs faster, but its not higher pitched, idk how to explain it
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I wonder how much exhaust routing has to do with it... the camaro has shorter side pipes.. i assume the Cadillac has longer tail pipes
Probably
Definitely not identical! But identically AWESOME
Definitely
The exhaust is the difference. Tubing size and bends. And of course displacement size of the motor. Bigger the cubes the more bass in the sound.
Agreed
the cup car is really beefy sounding just like the actual cup cars are. the shifts are okay sounding but i bet the downshifts sound awesome. the Cadillac is less beefy but they are definitely really similar.
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God damn that Cadillac sounds good!
I know right
The Caddy sounds more refined to me. I prefer it yet the Camaro sounds beautiful as well.
Yeah, definitely
chill with the cuts
I tried my best
Why did you cut the clips so soon after they passed? That's like 50% of the car sound.
I didn't want the clips I used to be too long. Plus, I was only focusing on the flyby of the cars when they passed by.
I did my best with this one, ok
The Caddy reminds me of the Car of Tomorrow in terms of sound,
Same
The Cadillac is probably what the Gen 8 Cup cars are gonna sound like.
Predicting the future?
Matter of time NASCAR bring race to LeMans coming years! Same type of Northern California or Road Atlanta
Hope so
Very very close, lots of engine tech from the Caddy being used I bet.
I guess so
Pretty damn close, although I think the NASCAR car has a throatier tone, otherwise they are very similar.
Yeah, the Garage 56 has that Growl type sound
@@cito1101 yup
The NASCAR car sounds crisper than the Caddy. I'm sure it has to do with the exhaust routing, the prototypes intricately design the exhaust system around the confined bodywork while NASCAR dumps it out as quick as possible. But they both sound sexy as hell, love me a throaty V8 exhaust note
Yeah, I know
Similar as they are based on the same initial LS design. However you can hear the clear difference in cubic inches. The Camaro Engine is making way more sauce.
Camaro is deeper than the Cadillac in terms of sound
@@cito1101 As it should. The Cadillac V8 is DOHC and 5.5L (335 cubic inches) producing around 650hp, whereas the Camaro is using a specially built R07 (358 Cubic inches to 400 cubic inches) pushrod V8 capable of around 1000hp.
@@josephmatuszak3855actually the gtp/lmdh/hypercars make "about" 670 hp measured at the axles (they have tq sensors on the axles so the series monitors real time power output). They make "about" 750 hp at crank bop dependent
There hasn't been a new LS design in many years lol
Flat plane vs. cross plane crankshafts?
Huh??
@@cito1101 The two different configurations of crankshafts will put out exhaust pulses at different frequencies, therefore two V8 engines with same displacement ( bore and stroke), will sound different exhaust-wise.
I'm getting major Iroc vibes from this
Wow!!
Honestly the cadillac sounds like a 90s cup car pre morgan mcclure x pipe.
Interesting
The caddy sounds like the 5 gen stock cars of yester year
Or the NASCAR gen 6 cars of 2021
They both sound like cup cars… different exhaust notes but very similar
Agreed
They sound close, the Cadillac resembles the COT era cup car, with a touch of the nextgen
Agreed
Which category does the Nascar fall in to? Pretty excited for this!
Not sure. Just Garage 56
I could be mistaken, but I believe I read the Garage56 entry is in the "Innovative Class". Just running against itself, without competition or a trophy. IMHO, it would be terrific if it finishes without major breakdowns, and completes a respectable number of laps. I believe Garage56 has the backing of Rick Hendricks. If this entry does well and generates enough interest from other Nascar teams, maybe just maybe the endurance/Nascar vehicles could have their own class in endurance racing! One can only dream.... Camaros - Mustangs - Camrys running LeMans along side Corvettes, Ferraris, Porsches, Aston Martins!
@@cito1101 I could be mistaken, but I believe I read the Garage56 entry is in the "Innovative Class". Just running against itself, without competition or a trophy. IMHO, it would be terrific if it finishes without major breakdowns, and completes a respectable number of laps. I believe Garage56 has the backing of Rick Hendricks. If this entry does well and generates enough interest from other Nascar teams, maybe just maybe the endurance/Nascar vehicles could have their own class in endurance racing! One can only dream.... Camaros - Mustangs - Camrys running LeMans along side Corvettes, Ferraris, Porsches, Aston Martins!
unbelievable how muc high speed grip this car has
I know right
The cup car has a bit more of a raspy deeper sound to it while the Cadillac has a more refined sound
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Wooooow is this new to you never heard the C5r or C6r , panoz , Riley and Scott lol
Haha. I like to try things a bit different
@@cito1101 the corvette C6R is much louder
@@cito1101 everyone watching this car didn’t even support the corvette on there class win it can 39th out of 40 finishers . But I’m glad this sound it back can’t wait for mustang next year
Sounds very similar but at diffeny rev ranges, the v series sounds higher reving and the 56 sounds more torquey with a lower rev range.
Agreed