I think part of it had to do with the fact Perez was initially pulling better results than Gasly and Albon including multiple podiums in 2021 season (Albion only got 2 podiums after 1.5 seasons and Gasly none), an excellent team play in the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix that ultimately led to Max Verstappen winning his first Driver's Championship, a very good 2022 season where he had multiple podiums, victories and in several races he outright beat Max and the first races of 2023 where his performance was so good we all thought he could have been a serious championship contender to Max. It's only after his 2023 Azerbaijan GP victory that Perez started bringing underwhelming results but even then he had several podiums to pair with Verstappen's dominant performance.
Honestly, I think it has more to do with Redbull's internal power struggle and the fact that Perez is very loyal to Horner for swooping in and offering him a seat after Racing Point gave him the boot. Horner is really keen on loyalty at the moment, which is also why Daniel is still in consideration.
@@udtojanpestillos2094 The 2019-2020 car was much less competitive than the 2021 car. 2019 Max was P3, Gasly/Alex P7/P8. 2020 Max P3, Alex P7. 2021 Max win, Perez P4. And while not a win, Albon had 2 podiums (P3) in 2020, Max 11 Podiums (2 P1, 6 P2, 3 P3). Comparison to Perez 2021, 5 Podiums (1 P1 and 4 P3s). Max 2021 18 Podiums (10 P1, 8 P2)
Perez got far closer to Max than they ever did, it wasn’t close. The reality is the RB is struggling like the Aston now others have move forward. Aston copied the RB design but clearly the concept is limited. Max is just a freak who will utterly destroy anybody who goes up against him(that’s a reality others will never want to admit) I hope Max joins Merc
I mean if he returns to form from the beginning of the year then it's "good enough" form to satisfy red bull. They don't need two drivers at the top together, they want max to be clear, but if he doesn't improve then they should go for another option.
For the second half, promote Ricc to RB, Liam to VCARB. If Ricc doesn't do well you can let him go at end of season. Everyone will be okay with it because he got his shot, and then they can promote Yuki or Liam for next season based off of how they finish.
As an Australian who remembers when Daniel was an excellent driver of a fast car, I've been wishing for one final stint to prove that he still has it. The one fatal flaw in his career has been that he jumped ship every time the team was about to recover from its slump in form. A one-race experiment might be an interesting teaser to see what happens next.
Great take. Would it make sense to go a step further and put Ricc & Lawson on a rotating schedule between RB and VCARB so they can compare apples with apples?
@@zklebertw Helmut Marco rang up and fired Nick De Vries before Danny even finished his testing run. His second ever hot lap he matched Max’s pole time. They didn’t immediately replace Checo because Checo wasn’t the underperforming RB driver at the time, and had plans to potentially replace him after the contract was up… but (on top of a slow 2024 start for Danny) Jos and Mexican sponsor money talks.
seems weird that after Monaco there was talk about Ricciardo getting dropped and 4 races later there's talk about him getting promoted to Red Bull mid-season
As of Silverstone, Hulkenberg in a Haas has scored more points in the last two races, than Perez has in the last six. Red Bull can't keep ducking the question.
Red Bull can't keep burying their heads in the sand this is just ridiculous. He was absolutely humiliated at Silverstone. You have Verstappen leading the drivers standings and Perez getting battered by the boys at Haas. It is just so embarrassing.
like.. what? 😂😂 no way he's this attrocious, those aren't even opinions those are straight un-argumentable facts. perez, in like top 3 fastest car, cant compete with like the second slowest? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sainz deserves a better car. Kick Sauber has got a seat avaliable for Sainz so I believe they might want him. If they don't then they can have Pourchaire and he will go to Red Bull. But if he keeps on making extremely slow decisions then his time unfortunately will run out for him.
He should. The entire market is waiting on him and the dust hasn’t settled yet. He has time and he should take what he wants, not what sounds good at the moment.
They don't want Carlos because he's to fast and could cause a Lewis/nico situation, red bull want someone slower than max but fast enough to get points, like merc had with bottas
Sainz might be a suprise nobody sees coming. I am not convinced max would ok Sainz. He will be fighting every race with his teammate. Tho he used to do that with ricc also
They also had options when they let those two go. Options that were much more likely to work out than they have right now. But yes also about 30 million other reasons if the rumours are correct.
They don't know what they have with Lawson or Riccardo. RBR should put Riccardo in Checo's seat. Lawson takes his place at RB. Perez is out. Riccardo either makes it or he's truly washed. It's as much about next year as it is this year.
They know exactly what they have with Lawson, he was proven under fire more than once and did brilliantly. He’s a solid driver and very similar in stats and personality to Oscar…I think Lawson will be fine. If he isn’t, he’ll sink. Or he’ll swim. That’s racing.
@@quigglyz Max has job security thanks to performances, exactly like Hamilton, Leclerc,... Stroll is an amateur that has money and just enough talent to be there.
Hulk scored more points in 2 races than Perez has in 6. Logan seargant out qualified Perez 3 times. What is redbull doing? Seriously. They've fired drivers for much less in the past but they're holding to Perez? So that max is protected? MAX DOESN'T NEED PROTECTION. MAX NEEDS SUPPORT IN THE FRONT TO FIGHT!
But this isn't giving Max any protection at all. Perez needs to be finishing between Max and his rivals and he's nowhere near doing that. Must be bringing even more money to the team than we realise. Daddy is a government minister in a country that isn't exactly a bastion of democracy.
take solace in the fact that it'll probably never happen. Red Bull need an experienced driver right now, they can't take another risk by placing a rookie in that car with insane expectations.
The cold, hard truth is, Perez is now contributing so little to RBR, throwing virtually anyone in that 2nd seat isn't really any gamble any more. What's the worst that can happen?, The new guy comes in, is still miles off Max, can hardly get it out of Q3 and scores points at the same rate as a Haas?....as is now. The neatest solution is Ricciardo. (who has kinda lucked out into contention), Him stepping into RBR opens the door at RB for Lawson, and if DR shows no step beyond Perez for the rest of the season and Lawson goes into RB and shows up better than Yuki (or DR did), then they've got the next man up ready to go, and to also be brutally honest with Ricciardo, if he ended up in the RBR and it didn't work out, that would likely be him in F1 anyway, He has nothing left to lose, He either does a better job then Perez at what is now a low bar, or retires at the top seat having got the shot he came back into F1 for.
Checo is pretty much just a pay driver right now. The amount of time he's been given, opposed to the relative inexperience of both Gasly and Albon in 19/20, is ludicrous.
I love the fact that gasly did nowhere near as bad as checo in his rookie year. He still finished in the back end of the points most occasions and didn’t suffer anywhere near the amount of Q1 knockouts Perez has had yet he’s still there
Albon the same with "uncompetitive " cars .The problem with Perez is his driving style and this will never change. When he feel great he wins in Baku and Jeddah last hear.
@@88Frank that’s always plagued the sport pay drivers and high sponsorship guys. While no doubt it’s helpful we are in a cost cap era the guys don’t need infinite money. Plus a team as big and successful as Red Bull should have no issue because they could sign a younger better driver and the look of that guy in Red Bull overalls could certainly bring in more sponsors for that new driver which brings in some money
Max being a solo show is impressive, but RBR need to find him a Bottas. Someone who can reliably qualify near the top and be used as a wing man race to race.
The funniest thing about the entire Checo seat dilemma is that the solution is fairly obvious but Red Bull refuse to do it. It's Tsunoda. He's had Ricciardo's number for pretty much their tenure as teammates. Lawson came in and did well vs him, but Tsunoda had some appalling luck with red flags, a DNS and a Perez-enforced DNF. The only race Lawson finished ahead on track was at Suzuka, where AT ruined their chances of points by leaving Tsunoda out too long and in doing so Lawson jumped him but with no chance of points. It's win/win for them. Perez already stinks. If Tsunoda didn't do well, they'd have an actual justifiable reason to let him go AM-Honda in 2026 and an opening for Lawson or Ricciardo. However, it Tsunoda does well, they would then at least have an option to keep on a driver entering his prime and also hold a good driver away from AM-Honda in the process. So they'd either get a competent number 2 or they'd get an easier, more justifiable pathway to put Lawson or Ricciardo in a binned Tsunoda's seat. But they seem insistent on putting Ricciardo in despite the fact he's never going to get any better than he currently is, and he's far more likely to go backwards given his age, given he's not an Alonso or Hamilton level driver who can afford to go backwards a little as they're still miles clear of most of the grid. Ricciardo isn't.
I feel like Ricciardo is preferred because he's a stable and experienced driver and Lawson because he's got potential. Tsunoda is an acceptable driver but he's got a temper and he's shown his capabilities are "just" pretty good. Perez was also seen as a pretty good and fairly stable driver and even he couldn't keep up at the top
RBR hasn't learned a lesson if they bring Lawson into the Sr team right away.. Max will destroy him.. promote an RB driver, make Checo a reserve and bring Lawson into RB
They’d be better off bringing ricciardo in for the remainder of this season and see how he does. Let Lawson and tsunoda compete for the seat for next year if ricciardo isn’t up to it The reason I say ricciardo over tsunoda is purely the experience as they desperately need consistency before McLaren catch them in the constructors
my thoughts exactly. Albon wasn't ready and look how that turned out. They need a seasoned driver in that seat this year not a rookie if they want to win the world championship.
All these comments begging for Tsunoda to have the seat really shows that people don't understand what Redbull wants. They don't want Yuki. Yuki is tied to Honda and Honda is not with Redbull anymore. Ergo, Yuki is not a future commitment for Redbull, so they don't want him.
@@armanromana1580if he can score 7 times and get almost double Danny’s points while being volatile and unpredictable , imagine what he can do when redbull polish this diamond.
I think Yuki is not being considered as he is a Honda driver and supported by Honda. As RB will be working with Ford in 2026 for their engines, Honda may not release Yuki to RB. So even if they promote Yuki, he may only be there for 1 year. I think (Could be Wrong) Yuki will replace Alonso at AM as Honda will be supplying them.
Tbh honest anyone that has watched the 2023 season shouldn’t be surprised that Perez is performance have been absolute garbage this season. Last season when redbull had the quickest car by far; Perez on multiple occasions will fail to reach q3 in that rocket ship of a car (9 times to be exact). His average qualifying position last season was 9.09 and his average grid position was 9.27 in a car that was far superior than anyone else’s. His performances was so bad last season that Lewis in that shit box of car had a legit shot at taking 2nd place in the drivers championship standings WITHOUT WINNING A RACE! And now this season where the redbull is still relatively at the top he is still underperforming massively🤡. But somehow Redbull still gives him a contract extension 😂. What an absolute joke.
Contract extension was obviously to try and boost his confidence and take some of the pressure off of him in the hopes knowing he has a guaranteed seat for the next 2 years will allow him to focus and not make him fret over whether or not he'll even have a drive next season.
Yeah, I said at the end of last season that Perez shouldn't be in that seat. His meltdown had become a pattern already. At the start of this season, many people thought he had returned to form, but he was doing the same thing he did last year, only with even worse results. Zero surprise his season is a complete dumpster fire. Red Bull were crazy to sign him to an extension, but obviously not crazy enough to not give themselves an out.
@@SwaggySimon20 Yeah well he brings in tonnes of money and he's a definite number 2 driver. I guess they didn't wanna risk bringing someone in who might be more consistent but could also challenge max and get in the way?
if Papa Sainz and Papa Verstappen can get along. Max and Carlos would be one of the best line ups on the grid. But, at this point maybe promoting Daniel for the rest of the season would be a sensible choice, with Lawson getting up to speed at RB and then signing up Lawson to Red Bull full time from 2025 onwards.
They should not have renewed his contract in the first place. That was more of a shock than dropping him now. They also need to upgrade the car quite a bit if they want to stay in front.
Formula 1 as we know it today is all about being a Potemkin series. A whole lot of talk for little to no pay off, unless you're the driver paying for that seat of course.
@@quigglyz Yeah, Perez's sponsors can pay for the money lost from being 2nd in the constructors and then some... so why replace him when there is no financial downside AND their star driver isn't being peskered by a better teammate?
I agree, Yuki should have his shot. He has been outperforming Ricciardo most weekends this season. As much as I love Ricciardo, he already had his shot a long time ago.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382Red Bull has the most “toxic” team culture. There’s no loyalty, there’s no legacy, it’s “what have you done for me lately.” While this is fairly normal in f1, Red Bull takes it to another level, with the most cutthroat driver politics.
@tumsfestival8027 No legacy? 20 years of massive influence and success in the sport an counting. Even if they had no legacy, that doesn't make you toxic lmao. You're just throwing random words to dunk on RB
I can't wait for tsunoda to go to Aston whenever it will happen, RB does not treat him well. I don't think RB will replace Perez with someone young because the next young driver they will focus on is probably Hadjar, he's currently leading f2 standings, he's really good.
I’m increasingly doubtful that Red Bull will win the constructors’ title this year. With their second car potentially only capable of achieving around P8, they should seize the opportunity to elevate Lawson to that seat if they want to maintain their chances of victory. It’s disappointing to see Red Bull, once known for boldly introducing new talents, becoming complacent relying solely on Max’s talent and guaranteed success
I'm thinking the same thing. If Checo keeps up this bad form, the only hope Red Bull has at winning the Constructors title is if McLaren, Mercedes, and Ferrari keep alternating being the best team and taking points away from each other.
Hulk has scored more points in the last 2 races in one of the worst cars then Perez has in the last 6 races in one of if not the best car. Perez seriously needs to go
What surprises me is that nothing has changed since he set foot in the car. He is not performing worse than other seasons, is he? Even in his much applauded 2021 season he was far behind Max and the rest of the top teams in a lot of races.
You can't put Lawson in that Red Bull, not this year. They need an established driver because they're in trouble of losing the constructors championship. I don't think Red Bull can afford to take a risk with a driver that hasn't driven in F1 for over a year. No doubt Horner and Marko have been receiving constant phone calls from Ricciardo
There is no way that Perez is still in the Red Bull but Sainz can’t get the seat. Perez is, right now, the worst or close to the worst driver on the grid in my opinion in current form.
So we're just going to ignore Yuki? The guy who scored the most points for the sister team? The best unknown quantity that RB family has? Are we going to just ignore his performance?
rb20 is not the best car. But he should definitely be challenging for podiums or at least be in the top 6 fight. I think the RB20 is 2nd or even 3rd best car rn.
does anyone else think it's max's fault that red bull lost their advantage? max wanted to make sure perez doesn't win any more races after monaco 2023, so he gave feedback to develop the car that exploits perez weakness. while max remain fast because he is a more versatile driver. this explains perez form since his last win in 2023. but now the development direction went wrong/is now too extreme because of max's targeted feedback which allowed other teams to catch up and red bull losing their advantage while perez is now midfield/backmarker
@@Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie it might not be anymore, on balance over the rest of the calendar one could argue it is .. lol I don’t have a strong one at the moment
IMO this it what needs to happen: can Perez if he doesn’t start performing like he should (podiums/ P4-P5). Replace him with Daniel (because they obviously don’t like Yuki enough) This will give Liam the 2nd VCARB seat and USE THE 2nd Red Bull team as they should. If Daniel can’t get good consistent points (something Perez isn’t doing) in the next 3-4 races get rid of him he can’t make it in F1 anymore ( coming from someone who loves Daniel). Move Yuki/Liam up and fill the VCARB seat with the various drivers looking for a drive.
I'd put DR in the senior team. Yuki doesn't fit the role as Max's teammate. He acts way too much of an entitled brat. Put Lawson in DR's seat in the junior team.
@kuromori6200 nope. DR is better suited at the senior team than Yuki. Yuki is not a good fit. Lawson has no experience so putting him in the senior team right away wouldn't be good. I choose DR over Yuki. If it was someone else, I might've chosen him over DR.
@kuromori6200in all fairness, DR can’t drive fast in cars that don’t suit his driving style. Much like Verstappen, he prefers a very pointy car so he can dart it around. This would make him the ideal candidate for the second Red Bull seat as it stands right now. Clearly Checo can’t handle that kind of setup, and Red Bull just doesn’t like Yuki
@@koqkoq7927 Nope. Max' agent is Raymond Vermeulen. Jos likes to pretend, but when push comes to shove, he's got little actual influence and just a loud mouth.
Silverstone was 100% car issues for Ricciardo. Not trying to make excuses, but to say “He was slower than Tsunoda all weekend” when he had issues in FP2 and FP3, a bad Quali run plan that got him caught in traffic on his final run in Q2, and then the PU having to be changed an hour before the race on Sunday, doesn’t exactly sound like he’s underperforming. Let’s wait until the summer break, but since Canada, he has been the better RB driver, one weekend of issues doesn’t change that
I doubt Red Bull will promote Lawson straight to Red Bull, given Verstappen didn't get that treatment initially, and they want to avoid repeating the Gasly/Albon situation. Tsunoda may face the same challenges many drivers (including Sainz) face with Red Bull's specific car dynamics-extremely pointy front end, unstable back end, and significant oversteer. It's often said only Verstappen and Ricciardo can handle it consistently. Ricciardo, aided by his good relationship with Max, might be the only one suited to be his teammate. Ricciardo's performances have also been hampered by being VCARB's guinea pig for new setups and upgrades (which benefit Tsunoda's performance), and by issues like Stroll running up the back of him.
@@dubcheck2943 He could be but a lot of commentators have actually said he's doing well. There just seems to be a Red Bull reluctance to put him in their 2nd car.
I'm 100% sure that Red Bull had signed a contract with Checo this early so they could update the performance clause in a way that allows them to frop Checo without having to break contract or wait until 2025. There's no way that they don't have a fun addition to the performance clause in place where they demote checo either to rb or as a reserve driver so they can retain his sponsorship money and cut his salary. Red Bull goes fucking crazy when it comes to their contracts and there's no way they didn't shove their lawyers in a pressure cooker on this one. If the performance clause kicks in and we fully see this unfold, we're about to witness a masterclass in contract writing and driver management.
After how Perez drove last year and the crashing on purpose event at Monaco, I was already surprised to see him in a RedBull at the start of the season.
I believe the deal was a last ditch effort to bolster Perez’s confidence so that he could continue as the second driver, hence why they still left two very specific performance clauses in his contract. He’s already failing one, without any hope of recovery in that metric, if he falls past sixth in the drivers championship(which seems inevitable, with Mercedes and McLaren’s both showing rapid improvement), it’s safe to say that RB could void his contract entirely and drop him midseason, which would solve multiple problems for the team
Riccardo and Perez need to be ejected from F1 as a whole. These aren't a couple of young drivers who haven't proven themselves yet. These are seasoned veterans of the sport who've shown their individual peaks years ago, and it seems they just aren't capable of providing on-track excitement any more.
Not agreeing at all about age at all. Alonso's and Hamilton's performance far better then the youngsters. Ham and alo would both deliver cutthroat racing if they where max teammate
Oust Perez ASAP, give Danny Ric half a season at Red Bull to prove himself, put Lawson in the RB, and then swap them around if there’s a case for it in 2025.
The stat I heard over the weekend really put this into perspective for me. Logan Sargent has never out qualified Alex Albon, but he has out qualified Perez on multiple occasions
Watch them get literally any other driver and have them bomb just as hard if not harder. I'm more and more convinced the problem with RB is the car is utterly undrivable unless you're a Max level talent. Hell even max has had drivability issues in recent races
No they had more tyre deg which caused Max to lose 0.1 each lap on Merc and McLaren on first stint. But,..Max on HARD TYRES vs LH and Lando on softs, Max COULD EASILY PUSH and he was FASTER in pace than LH and Lando. Tyre deg is now RBR’s issue
Best solution is let Perez go after summer break if he doesnt provide podium finish, give the seat to Ricciardo for the remaining season, if he performs well, then let him drive for next season or else sign Sainz for the next season
Redbull should toss out Sergio. Insert Ricciardo so if they do fire him they can say they have him every chance available. He gets along great with max and I think he will do better then Sergio. Put Lawson in the RB and let him learn slowly like Yuki did. Do not just throw him into the big seat like they did with Albon and Gasley.
I see a life after F1 with Ricciardo while still being an RB driver. Sponsor him over to Indy, and once he wins the 500, send him to Le Mans to shoot for the triple crown, or do it the other way around.
OK, hear me out. Remove Checo and promote Ricciardo again, and give Lawson Ricciardo's seat at RB. If Dany performs well the rest of the season, then they have a driver to pair up with Max next year and RB will have its lineup for next year as well. If Dany doesn't deliver and Lawson shows competence at RB, then they can promote him next year. Didn't mention Yuki because at this point it seems very clear they're not interested in him.
Franz Tost saw some real promise in Yuki and he has improved greatly over the years. So Yuki isn't really someone like Stroll or Sargent who are definitely replaceable but couldn't be kicked out because of their cash or backers. If anything Yuki is doing better than Perez and Ricciardo and Red Bull still think those two other drivers deserve an F1 seats There are probably some non-F1 drivers who far more deserve an F1 seat than Yuki, though.
This isn't true at all. Hence why bar this season Tsunoda has had extremely late contract confirmations despite Honda being locked in for several years. You'd know this if you listened to Helmut Marko, who oversees the young driver programme. Him being a Honda affiliate got him noticed, it probably put him in the pipeline to the seat in 2021. But it's 2024, let's not pretend he is finishing 18th every week and VCARB are just abiding Honda's wishes to keep him there.
That interview with Albon about being Max's teammate runs through my head all the time. He makes a comparison between Max's driving skills and cranking up the mouse speed to max in a game. Hardly anyone can function with a car that pointy the way Max likes it and as the season goes on and it gets even pointier, lesser drivers fall off hard.
@@Redlingsteinricciardo before 2021 yes but ever since he move to Mclaren and the way he struggle alot their against Lando like Perez against Max he was not the same as before and who know and yes i know DR driving style is similar like Max and sometimes i whish what IF DR stay at Red bull after 2018 what F1 will Look like especially in Red bull and Max ever since and what 2021 crazy season will look like with Ricciardo in the second Red bull and especially since 2022 and also is it Ricciardo will be beat Max and be World champion like rosberg did against Lewis and is Max will still even with Ricciardo as it teamate still be dominant F1 in that Red bull since 2022 and of course Red bull will not that second driver dilemma curse since 2019 and what Gasly and Albon and Perez carrer will be like ever since ect ...?🤔😏
@@MohamedLamkhizniDaniel suffered at McLaren because he’s not a flexible driver. Like Verstappen, he very much likes a pointy car he can dart around because that suits his driving style. Unlike Verstappen, he can’t adapt to anything else. He was fine at Renault because the car once again suited his driving style. He’d be perfect in the Red Bull, but not so much in anything else
Yuki has matured a lot and his pace with such a bad car is very good. It is strange, that they are not considering him at all. Yes, he was childish and he had mistakes, bit last two seasons he is very stable, even in bad conditions
like the time he torpedoed Ricci after the race? :)) Perfomance wise he deserves that chance, but his temper tantrums and attitude are a big no-no for the senior team.
@RambleStorm Well, yeah, although Max, Norris and Russell are always whining and complaining, they are still performing in a top level. I mean, they are actually still very young, so I don't expect them to be behave in some perfect way. We are all like that at this age, but not shown on TV, and it stays hidden. :D
@@RambleStorm Yes, he threw a tantrum over a non point scoring position. The team did that as a test to see how he handles team orders and he failed big time.
If Checo's performance stays on this track, put DR in his spot for the rest of the season and put Lawson in the vcarb. See how Danny holds up to Max by the end of the season and if he shits the bed, replace him with Lawson in 2025. That way, you can asses whether Danny still has it and also not rush Lawson into the main team as he'll have a good 10 races at least to acclimatise and further prove himself.
You can't understand why Tsunoda isn't being given a chance? It's simple: He likes to run his mouth. It's the same reason they punted Gasly so quickly. Immaturity isn't tolerated at Red Bull unless you are a superstar talent. Max gets to be as snarky and arrogant as he wants, because he's a top-tier talent. Tsunoda annoyed Marko with his attitude, and as such he will never see the inside of an RB cockpit.
Red Bull shouldn't have given Checo that deal. He clearly isn't up to continuously supporting Red Bull remain at the top leaving Max to carry the team himself. Hell Max won the constructor's last year on his own. The fact he couldn't deliver when the car was vastly better than the rest of the grid should've been a sign that he isn't the kinda 2nd driver they need.
I think it's very odd the different language used when comparing Yuki and Daniel when you consider both of them has had ups and downs and more often than not they are very close in terms of performance.
Hw does Lawson get considered for the Red Bull seat over Yuki.... in races that they both finished Yuki beat him... and destroyed riccardo. Riccardo doesnt deserve that seat but Checo is doing much worse
I know it’s kind of annoying how he mentions how Lawson and even DR is more in contention of having the seat than Yuki who’s outperformed for a much longer time
The fact that Albion and Gasly got thrown out of Redbull for much less shows how much money Perez is bringing into the team
I think part of it had to do with the fact Perez was initially pulling better results than Gasly and Albon including multiple podiums in 2021 season (Albion only got 2 podiums after 1.5 seasons and Gasly none), an excellent team play in the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix that ultimately led to Max Verstappen winning his first Driver's Championship, a very good 2022 season where he had multiple podiums, victories and in several races he outright beat Max and the first races of 2023 where his performance was so good we all thought he could have been a serious championship contender to Max. It's only after his 2023 Azerbaijan GP victory that Perez started bringing underwhelming results but even then he had several podiums to pair with Verstappen's dominant performance.
Because compared to Albon and Gasly he got race wins and some podiums while Gasly and Albon were the WHOLE season on P7 or less.
Honestly, I think it has more to do with Redbull's internal power struggle and the fact that Perez is very loyal to Horner for swooping in and offering him a seat after Racing Point gave him the boot. Horner is really keen on loyalty at the moment, which is also why Daniel is still in consideration.
@@udtojanpestillos2094 The 2019-2020 car was much less competitive than the 2021 car. 2019 Max was P3, Gasly/Alex P7/P8. 2020 Max P3, Alex P7. 2021 Max win, Perez P4.
And while not a win, Albon had 2 podiums (P3) in 2020, Max 11 Podiums (2 P1, 6 P2, 3 P3). Comparison to Perez 2021, 5 Podiums (1 P1 and 4 P3s). Max 2021 18 Podiums (10 P1, 8 P2)
Perez got far closer to Max than they ever did, it wasn’t close.
The reality is the RB is struggling like the Aston now others have move forward.
Aston copied the RB design but clearly the concept is limited.
Max is just a freak who will utterly destroy anybody who goes up against him(that’s a reality others will never want to admit)
I hope Max joins Merc
Nico Hulkenberg has more points in his last two races compared to Checo’s last five. Embarrassing.
And Charles in his last 4.
@@soundscape26 yikes!
Nico's rise above the status of his car makes him seem like the new Fernando Alonso.
So what?
@@jacksonrodrigues7533 Checo will be gone by the summer break or by the end of the season. WASHED‼️
I don't think RB cutting him would be comsidered "ruthless" at this point, he's had plenty of time.
Plenty of years and has just gotten worse
Yes, if anything their stubbornness in keeping him shows the opposite.
Came here to say the same thing. "Ruthless" is one hell of a stretch...
I mean if he returns to form from the beginning of the year then it's "good enough" form to satisfy red bull. They don't need two drivers at the top together, they want max to be clear, but if he doesn't improve then they should go for another option.
Red Bull chopping Albon and Gasly was brutal. Perez has had so many chances compaeatively
For the second half, promote Ricc to RB, Liam to VCARB. If Ricc doesn't do well you can let him go at end of season. Everyone will be okay with it because he got his shot, and then they can promote Yuki or Liam for next season based off of how they finish.
Thats actually a very good strategy.
As an Australian who remembers when Daniel was an excellent driver of a fast car, I've been wishing for one final stint to prove that he still has it. The one fatal flaw in his career has been that he jumped ship every time the team was about to recover from its slump in form. A one-race experiment might be an interesting teaser to see what happens next.
Great take. Would it make sense to go a step further and put Ricc & Lawson on a rotating schedule between RB and VCARB so they can compare apples with apples?
Red Bull already has data from last year's Ricciardo rb19 tests, if they didn't promote it it's because it wasn't satisfactory
@@zklebertw Helmut Marco rang up and fired Nick De Vries before Danny even finished his testing run. His second ever hot lap he matched Max’s pole time.
They didn’t immediately replace Checo because Checo wasn’t the underperforming RB driver at the time, and had plans to potentially replace him after the contract was up… but (on top of a slow 2024 start for Danny) Jos and Mexican sponsor money talks.
I don't understand why they want to replace Perez. In F1, constancy is key, and Perez is constantly crap
God tier comment
😂😂
Hahahahahaga
had us in the entire match
Good one.🤣
seems weird that after Monaco there was talk about Ricciardo getting dropped and 4 races later there's talk about him getting promoted to Red Bull mid-season
Yeah but there is so much talk around drivers that is all it is….. talk. Most of the time it never happens
As of Silverstone, Hulkenberg in a Haas has scored more points in the last two races, than Perez has in the last six. Red Bull can't keep ducking the question.
Red Bull can't keep burying their heads in the sand this is just ridiculous. He was absolutely humiliated at Silverstone. You have Verstappen leading the drivers standings and Perez getting battered by the boys at Haas. It is just so embarrassing.
like.. what? 😂😂
no way he's this attrocious, those aren't even opinions those are straight un-argumentable facts. perez, in like top 3 fastest car, cant compete with like the second slowest? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yuki and Danny have shit car and do better
@@yurilopes420he’s being beat by Danny and yuki who clearly have a shit car in comparison
The only reason RB re-signed Checo was because he brought sponsorship money. He is their Lance Stroll.
RB have cut drivers loose for a lot less.
His only reason he's still in that seat is financial.
I think it's widely known that Mexico consumes more sugary soft drink per capita than any other nation in the world, coincidence????
Exacly
And to please the Verstappens
@@Drrolfski yeah good shout
Yeah @@Drrolfskino complaints from Jos, afaik.
At this rate Carlos Sainz will wait all season to sign
Sainz deserves a better car. Kick Sauber has got a seat avaliable for Sainz so I believe they might want him.
If they don't then they can have Pourchaire and he will go to Red Bull.
But if he keeps on making extremely slow decisions then his time unfortunately will run out for him.
He should. The entire market is waiting on him and the dust hasn’t settled yet. He has time and he should take what he wants, not what sounds good at the moment.
He’s waiting for Charles to quit and go to Merc.
They don't want Carlos because he's to fast and could cause a Lewis/nico situation, red bull want someone slower than max but fast enough to get points, like merc had with bottas
Sainz might be a suprise nobody sees coming. I am not convinced max would ok Sainz. He will be fighting every race with his teammate. Tho he used to do that with ricc also
They scrap gastly and albon in about 5 races... but give this man a 2 year extension... 🤷
Follow the money 💰
Both Gasly and Albon weren't even prepared. Both needed more time but they got the boot.
@@Romit12Gasly needed time. Albon was given 1.5 years.
@@jivewig Albon did pretty well, imo, better than Gasly, and got robbed of a guaranteed podium _twice_
They also had options when they let those two go. Options that were much more likely to work out than they have right now.
But yes also about 30 million other reasons if the rumours are correct.
That performance clause's font is getting bigger and bigger
Just like a Haas in Checo's mirrors
@@plane15mandon’t disrespect haas like that
@@plane15man the haas would be ahead of perez not behind?
@@bluedinoroblox that's why the Haas was getting bigger in his mirror... He passed him...
@@plane15man the haas never pass checo cus they never fall behind
They don't know what they have with Lawson or Riccardo. RBR should put Riccardo in Checo's seat. Lawson takes his place at RB. Perez is out. Riccardo either makes it or he's truly washed. It's as much about next year as it is this year.
Yeah, this seems like the no brainer. I was very supprised after hearing the perez contract extension.
They know exactly what they have with Lawson, he was proven under fire more than once and did brilliantly. He’s a solid driver and very similar in stats and personality to Oscar…I think Lawson will be fine. If he isn’t, he’ll sink. Or he’ll swim. That’s racing.
Who are you to decide for RBR who should stay and who not?
"Only Verstappen has job security"? What about Stroll? 😂
Not a job. A hobby.
It's also not true. Checo's sponsor money makes him as untouchable as Lance. Only Max, Checo, and Lance have job security.
@@quigglyz
Max has job security thanks to performances, exactly like Hamilton, Leclerc,...
Stroll is an amateur that has money and just enough talent to be there.
Not a job. He owns it. 😂
@@Scavs_Inc A jobby
Love Perez but honestly, he better be getting bounced.
If Hulkenberg didn’t sign that contract with Sauber he would have been perfect for that second Red Bull seat.
Hulkenberg always miss out on a top seat just the opportunity arises just because he signed a contract early in the season
@@koonhui2526 One of the unluckiest drivers signs a contract elsewhere then a big seat potentially comes available.
he's deserved a big drive like that for the longest time
@@dylanelliott9474 would’ve been a good fit
Bro can you imagine? That would be so awsome and well deserved too. Nico is doing miracles in that haas right now
Hulk scored more points in 2 races than Perez has in 6.
Logan seargant out qualified Perez 3 times.
What is redbull doing? Seriously. They've fired drivers for much less in the past but they're holding to Perez? So that max is protected? MAX DOESN'T NEED PROTECTION. MAX NEEDS SUPPORT IN THE FRONT TO FIGHT!
But this isn't giving Max any protection at all. Perez needs to be finishing between Max and his rivals and he's nowhere near doing that. Must be bringing even more money to the team than we realise. Daddy is a government minister in a country that isn't exactly a bastion of democracy.
And where is hulk in the overall points?
If lawson goes to Red Bull, please please please don't repeat the Gasley+Albon treatment.
Trust me, it'll happen. Same thing would happen to Hadjar if RB promoted him mid-season
take solace in the fact that it'll probably never happen. Red Bull need an experienced driver right now, they can't take another risk by placing a rookie in that car with insane expectations.
Lol
They will do... RB is focus 100% on Max... RB gives a thing the Constructor's Championship
They already give Perez almost 3 seasons… Having Lawson in Red Bull would be epic.
The cold, hard truth is, Perez is now contributing so little to RBR, throwing virtually anyone in that 2nd seat isn't really any gamble any more. What's the worst that can happen?, The new guy comes in, is still miles off Max, can hardly get it out of Q3 and scores points at the same rate as a Haas?....as is now.
The neatest solution is Ricciardo. (who has kinda lucked out into contention), Him stepping into RBR opens the door at RB for Lawson, and if DR shows no step beyond Perez for the rest of the season and Lawson goes into RB and shows up better than Yuki (or DR did), then they've got the next man up ready to go, and to also be brutally honest with Ricciardo, if he ended up in the RBR and it didn't work out, that would likely be him in F1 anyway, He has nothing left to lose, He either does a better job then Perez at what is now a low bar, or retires at the top seat having got the shot he came back into F1 for.
Checo is pretty much just a pay driver right now. The amount of time he's been given, opposed to the relative inexperience of both Gasly and Albon in 19/20, is ludicrous.
What about Kyvat? Why don’t you know about him? DTS fan?
@@gopr3117 Kvyat was called torpedo for a reason
Wow i did not know that contracts could be terminated.
I guess they can just be terminated with penalties
I love the fact that gasly did nowhere near as bad as checo in his rookie year. He still finished in the back end of the points most occasions and didn’t suffer anywhere near the amount of Q1 knockouts Perez has had yet he’s still there
Albon the same with "uncompetitive " cars .The problem with Perez is his driving style and this will never change. When he feel great he wins in Baku and Jeddah last hear.
Perez brings in the dollar
@@88Frank that’s always plagued the sport pay drivers and high sponsorship guys. While no doubt it’s helpful we are in a cost cap era the guys don’t need infinite money. Plus a team as big and successful as Red Bull should have no issue because they could sign a younger better driver and the look of that guy in Red Bull overalls could certainly bring in more sponsors for that new driver which brings in some money
@@YoungDolan F1 is a weird and cruel sport at times
@@88Frank Well we´ll see from belgian onwards
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I'll believe it when I see it, they seem to love that Telmex deal a bit too much to sack up and do anything.
exactly! I say that as someone who roots for Checo.
Yep, I think no matter how bad he does, he will stay at Red Bull. He brings too much money
I hate to say it, but checo is becoming Lance stroll.
There is ALWAYS A PERFORMANCE CLAUSE in every drivers contract!
Is the amount of money he brings more or less than how much they'd get for winning the constructors championship?
Contracts, like hearts, are meant to be broken
Like laws
Max being a solo show is impressive, but RBR need to find him a Bottas. Someone who can reliably qualify near the top and be used as a wing man race to race.
Bottas is probably where best support driver out there. Sainz is good but I don’t view him as a support driver.
The funniest thing about the entire Checo seat dilemma is that the solution is fairly obvious but Red Bull refuse to do it. It's Tsunoda.
He's had Ricciardo's number for pretty much their tenure as teammates. Lawson came in and did well vs him, but Tsunoda had some appalling luck with red flags, a DNS and a Perez-enforced DNF. The only race Lawson finished ahead on track was at Suzuka, where AT ruined their chances of points by leaving Tsunoda out too long and in doing so Lawson jumped him but with no chance of points.
It's win/win for them. Perez already stinks. If Tsunoda didn't do well, they'd have an actual justifiable reason to let him go AM-Honda in 2026 and an opening for Lawson or Ricciardo. However, it Tsunoda does well, they would then at least have an option to keep on a driver entering his prime and also hold a good driver away from AM-Honda in the process. So they'd either get a competent number 2 or they'd get an easier, more justifiable pathway to put Lawson or Ricciardo in a binned Tsunoda's seat.
But they seem insistent on putting Ricciardo in despite the fact he's never going to get any better than he currently is, and he's far more likely to go backwards given his age, given he's not an Alonso or Hamilton level driver who can afford to go backwards a little as they're still miles clear of most of the grid. Ricciardo isn't.
I feel like Ricciardo is preferred because he's a stable and experienced driver and Lawson because he's got potential. Tsunoda is an acceptable driver but he's got a temper and he's shown his capabilities are "just" pretty good. Perez was also seen as a pretty good and fairly stable driver and even he couldn't keep up at the top
@@vinno97 so why promote Ricciardo if he's only stable, nevermind 35 years old lmao
RBR hasn't learned a lesson if they bring Lawson into the Sr team right away.. Max will destroy him.. promote an RB driver, make Checo a reserve and bring Lawson into RB
Zak brown was right, having a sister team is an unfair advantage.
They’d be better off bringing ricciardo in for the remainder of this season and see how he does. Let Lawson and tsunoda compete for the seat for next year if ricciardo isn’t up to it
The reason I say ricciardo over tsunoda is purely the experience as they desperately need consistency before McLaren catch them in the constructors
my thoughts exactly. Albon wasn't ready and look how that turned out. They need a seasoned driver in that seat this year not a rookie if they want to win the world championship.
@@andrewmelton2686womp womp
@kproc12 oh look, another max gobbler😂
All these comments begging for Tsunoda to have the seat really shows that people don't understand what Redbull wants. They don't want Yuki. Yuki is tied to Honda and Honda is not with Redbull anymore. Ergo, Yuki is not a future commitment for Redbull, so they don't want him.
The answer to the title of this video seems pretty self-explanatory just by watching the races
common situation with most of the videos on this channel
The answer is Checo is hot garbage and shouldn’t be in F1 much less a top team
so Lawson is being talked about as Perez replacement, but Yuki isnt talked about at all? what the fuck is happening?
yuki is not controllable thats why. hes too volatile and unpredictable.
@@armanromana1580if he can score 7 times and get almost double Danny’s points while being volatile and unpredictable , imagine what he can do when redbull polish this diamond.
@@captainross4706 its more the pr and team dynamics that they are scared of. thats what i meant by my comment not track performances.
what is happening is you clearly dont understand Formula 1 less Red Bull
I think Yuki is not being considered as he is a Honda driver and supported by Honda. As RB will be working with Ford in 2026 for their engines, Honda may not release Yuki to RB. So even if they promote Yuki, he may only be there for 1 year. I think (Could be Wrong) Yuki will replace Alonso at AM as Honda will be supplying them.
Tbh honest anyone that has watched the 2023 season shouldn’t be surprised that Perez is performance have been absolute garbage this season. Last season when redbull had the quickest car by far; Perez on multiple occasions will fail to reach q3 in that rocket ship of a car (9 times to be exact). His average qualifying position last season was 9.09 and his average grid position was 9.27 in a car that was far superior than anyone else’s. His performances was so bad last season that Lewis in that shit box of car had a legit shot at taking 2nd place in the drivers championship standings WITHOUT WINNING A RACE! And now this season where the redbull is still relatively at the top he is still underperforming massively🤡. But somehow Redbull still gives him a contract extension 😂. What an absolute joke.
Contract extension was obviously to try and boost his confidence and take some of the pressure off of him in the hopes knowing he has a guaranteed seat for the next 2 years will allow him to focus and not make him fret over whether or not he'll even have a drive next season.
@@Creatureskater123897 yeah but he’s been underperforming before the contract extension. My whole thing is he hasn’t been performing well at all
Yeah, I said at the end of last season that Perez shouldn't be in that seat. His meltdown had become a pattern already. At the start of this season, many people thought he had returned to form, but he was doing the same thing he did last year, only with even worse results. Zero surprise his season is a complete dumpster fire.
Red Bull were crazy to sign him to an extension, but obviously not crazy enough to not give themselves an out.
I was thinking the same, the gap between Ver and Perez is the same as last year, the difference is that this year whole grid is way closer
@@SwaggySimon20 Yeah well he brings in tonnes of money and he's a definite number 2 driver. I guess they didn't wanna risk bringing someone in who might be more consistent but could also challenge max and get in the way?
Is Helmet Marko hurting RB ? YES
The team needs to move on from Marko...
Checo still in his seat is not Marko's fault..
Checko's driving is more mysterious than the TH-cam algorithm.
if Papa Sainz and Papa Verstappen can get along. Max and Carlos would be one of the best line ups on the grid. But, at this point maybe promoting Daniel for the rest of the season would be a sensible choice, with Lawson getting up to speed at RB and then signing up Lawson to Red Bull full time from 2025 onwards.
They should not have renewed his contract in the first place. That was more of a shock than dropping him now. They also need to upgrade the car quite a bit if they want to stay in front.
Christian "we thought the contract would help" Horner. Gotta love the Horn-Dog!
Actually this time though or not? Because it's been the same old story for the years now
Look at @3:38. It’s not acceptable for redbull
It's not real. Checo's seat is as invulnerable as Lance's. They are pay drivers.
Formula 1 as we know it today is all about being a Potemkin series. A whole lot of talk for little to no pay off, unless you're the driver paying for that seat of course.
@@quigglyz Yeah, Perez's sponsors can pay for the money lost from being 2nd in the constructors and then some... so why replace him when there is no financial downside AND their star driver isn't being peskered by a better teammate?
Tsunoda to the RB seat, put Lawson in the VcaRB car - simples!
Give yuki the spot for the rest of the season, see how he does then make the decision for 2025
They will do the opposite give ri lc half a season if he fails bump up yuki or Lawson for 25
They'll give it to Lawson before Yuki. Yuki doesn't fit what they want
I agree, Yuki should have his shot. He has been outperforming Ricciardo most weekends this season. As much as I love Ricciardo, he already had his shot a long time ago.
@@h.a.9880not a good idea to give Tsunoda a seat at Red Bull same goes for Lawson
They'll end up like Gasly and Albon which isn't good
It should be Max/Yuki and Daniel/Liam for the rest of 2024
Then Max/Carlos and Yuki/Liam for 2025
How is Lawson not in F1? At least 5 current drivers don't belong in F1. + more
Sainz deserves a car as good as red bull’s but he doesn’t deserve the toxic team spirit that comes with it
What are you talking about exactly?
It will be like how Max was always at loggerheads with Ricciardo years back😂😂
@@malvinelpinnoy
That's assuming Sainz would be a consistent challenge, which i don't believe at all.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382Red Bull has the most “toxic” team culture. There’s no loyalty, there’s no legacy, it’s “what have you done for me lately.” While this is fairly normal in f1, Red Bull takes it to another level, with the most cutthroat driver politics.
@tumsfestival8027 No legacy? 20 years of massive influence and success in the sport an counting. Even if they had no legacy, that doesn't make you toxic lmao. You're just throwing random words to dunk on RB
I can't wait for tsunoda to go to Aston whenever it will happen, RB does not treat him well.
I don't think RB will replace Perez with someone young because the next young driver they will focus on is probably Hadjar, he's currently leading f2 standings, he's really good.
I’m increasingly doubtful that Red Bull will win the constructors’ title this year. With their second car potentially only capable of achieving around P8, they should seize the opportunity to elevate Lawson to that seat if they want to maintain their chances of victory. It’s disappointing to see Red Bull, once known for boldly introducing new talents, becoming complacent relying solely on Max’s talent and guaranteed success
I'm thinking the same thing. If Checo keeps up this bad form, the only hope Red Bull has at winning the Constructors title is if McLaren, Mercedes, and Ferrari keep alternating being the best team and taking points away from each other.
Put Lawson in the RB seat after Albon & Gasly? Don't think so!
Hulk has scored more points in the last 2 races in one of the worst cars then Perez has in the last 6 races in one of if not the best car. Perez seriously needs to go
What surprises me is that nothing has changed since he set foot in the car. He is not performing worse than other seasons, is he? Even in his much applauded 2021 season he was far behind Max and the rest of the top teams in a lot of races.
Why are they even talking about a replacement summer break? That should have taken place the moment he put the car in the kitty litter.
You can't put Lawson in that Red Bull, not this year. They need an established driver because they're in trouble of losing the constructors championship. I don't think Red Bull can afford to take a risk with a driver that hasn't driven in F1 for over a year. No doubt Horner and Marko have been receiving constant phone calls from Ricciardo
Put DR in after break, clause stating he has to perform by year's end, and if he doesn't put in Lawson.
There is no way that Perez is still in the Red Bull but Sainz can’t get the seat. Perez is, right now, the worst or close to the worst driver on the grid in my opinion in current form.
Top 3, of the worst...
@@Bixten33 Yeah. Curious, who else would you put in that group?
Zhou and Sargeant
@@Bidens_Battle_Box Fair
You know who is driving really well at the moment. Niko Hulkenberg. I am a fan.
Like, he was in his prime at 2012-2020, now it’s clear he’s on the final stage of his career. Let’s accept that and let the new gens come in.
Bottas must be rolling his eyes at his 2 yr contract 😂
Bottas would actually be an ideal replacement, in my opinion.
@@alistairjheeley nice guy, but I honestly believe his mental strength would be a problem in the Helmut, Jos, Horner Max goings on..
@@CosmicSeeker69Jos is banned from attending the RB booth so that shouldn't be a problem.
So we're just going to ignore Yuki? The guy who scored the most points for the sister team? The best unknown quantity that RB family has? Are we going to just ignore his performance?
He’s not scoring in arguably the best car, it’s just not sustainable
rb20 is not the best car. But he should definitely be challenging for podiums or at least be in the top 6 fight. I think the RB20 is 2nd or even 3rd best car rn.
does anyone else think it's max's fault that red bull lost their advantage? max wanted to make sure perez doesn't win any more races after monaco 2023, so he gave feedback to develop the car that exploits perez weakness. while max remain fast because he is a more versatile driver. this explains perez form since his last win in 2023.
but now the development direction went wrong/is now too extreme because of max's targeted feedback which allowed other teams to catch up and red bull losing their advantage while perez is now midfield/backmarker
Sainz will be at Red Bull next season
@@Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie it might not be anymore, on balance over the rest of the calendar one could argue it is .. lol I don’t have a strong one at the moment
@@NandoFIT-df8ly Good made up story mate, you should send it to Steven Spielberg.
Nyck de Vries only got 10 races and that was as a rookie at Alpha Tauri
IMO this it what needs to happen: can Perez if he doesn’t start performing like he should (podiums/ P4-P5). Replace him with Daniel (because they obviously don’t like Yuki enough) This will give Liam the 2nd VCARB seat and USE THE 2nd Red Bull team as they should. If Daniel can’t get good consistent points (something Perez isn’t doing) in the next 3-4 races get rid of him he can’t make it in F1 anymore ( coming from someone who loves Daniel). Move Yuki/Liam up and fill the VCARB seat with the various drivers looking for a drive.
I'd put DR in the senior team. Yuki doesn't fit the role as Max's teammate. He acts way too much of an entitled brat. Put Lawson in DR's seat in the junior team.
@kuromori6200 nope. DR is better suited at the senior team than Yuki. Yuki is not a good fit. Lawson has no experience so putting him in the senior team right away wouldn't be good. I choose DR over Yuki. If it was someone else, I might've chosen him over DR.
@@Whatreally123not sure a driver losing to his teammate is a better fit than the driver who has been objectively quicker for about a year.
@kuromori6200in all fairness, DR can’t drive fast in cars that don’t suit his driving style. Much like Verstappen, he prefers a very pointy car so he can dart it around. This would make him the ideal candidate for the second Red Bull seat as it stands right now. Clearly Checo can’t handle that kind of setup, and Red Bull just doesn’t like Yuki
Perhaps the dads should all leave. Nothing is worse about Millennial/Gen Z kids than their parents in their work spaces.
Max agent is his Dad and i remember Sainz aswell
@@koqkoq7927 Nope. Max' agent is Raymond Vermeulen. Jos likes to pretend, but when push comes to shove, he's got little actual influence and just a loud mouth.
@@halofreak1990 so basically Jos is Max's Coach
I know 0 millennials that have their parents in the workspace. I’m a millennial.
Silverstone was 100% car issues for Ricciardo. Not trying to make excuses, but to say “He was slower than Tsunoda all weekend” when he had issues in FP2 and FP3, a bad Quali run plan that got him caught in traffic on his final run in Q2, and then the PU having to be changed an hour before the race on Sunday, doesn’t exactly sound like he’s underperforming. Let’s wait until the summer break, but since Canada, he has been the better RB driver, one weekend of issues doesn’t change that
I'm pretty sure at this stage kicking Perez out couldn't be described as ruthless at all.
Don’t forget - Isack Hadjar has won 3 feature races and now leads the F2 championship…
If i was Redbull i would cashout haas for hülkenberg for the rest of the season and then look for a permanent replacement
Perez IS a good driver, but it’s clear that you at least need an EXCELLENT driver to get the most out of a Red Bull that is difficult to drive.
I think now I know why Sainz is still holding his cards. Compared to Daniel and Liam, Carlos would be the best option.
Wont happen. Would be good though!
I doubt Red Bull will promote Lawson straight to Red Bull, given Verstappen didn't get that treatment initially, and they want to avoid repeating the Gasly/Albon situation. Tsunoda may face the same challenges many drivers (including Sainz) face with Red Bull's specific car dynamics-extremely pointy front end, unstable back end, and significant oversteer. It's often said only Verstappen and Ricciardo can handle it consistently. Ricciardo, aided by his good relationship with Max, might be the only one suited to be his teammate. Ricciardo's performances have also been hampered by being VCARB's guinea pig for new setups and upgrades (which benefit Tsunoda's performance), and by issues like Stroll running up the back of him.
Pergio Serez and Tuki Ysunoda need to collab and open a Japanese wagyu taco stand
So WRONG
In what world does yuki need to do that
@@le2den He said his dream was to open a restaurant.
@@soundscape26he’s been cooking this season that’s for sure.
Now that’s an idea!
IMO with Tsunoda in Red Bull it's pretty simple - Tsunoda is Honda guy in the first place...
Yuki or Lawson gets my vote for the seat. They have a few options.
Red Bull don't like Yuki.
@@fablewalls Fair point, suppose he is there due to honda. With the Ford deal coming..............
Which wouldn't be that funny to Danny Ric who was brought as a potential Perez replacement. Seeing Lawson leapfrog him would be quite something.
@@dubcheck2943 He could be but a lot of commentators have actually said he's doing well. There just seems to be a Red Bull reluctance to put him in their 2nd car.
It's wild to think Riccardo could get bumped to RB over Tsunoda...
Give ric the drive for half the season let lawson and yuki have a half season shoot out for 25
Yeah then we can actually see if ricciardo is as good as he was
@@theoschofield1495
We know that he isn't.
No way. Give Yuki the chance, he is the one that deserves it!
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 some ppl just dont want to see what's clear as day
I'm 100% sure that Red Bull had signed a contract with Checo this early so they could update the performance clause in a way that allows them to frop Checo without having to break contract or wait until 2025. There's no way that they don't have a fun addition to the performance clause in place where they demote checo either to rb or as a reserve driver so they can retain his sponsorship money and cut his salary. Red Bull goes fucking crazy when it comes to their contracts and there's no way they didn't shove their lawyers in a pressure cooker on this one. If the performance clause kicks in and we fully see this unfold, we're about to witness a masterclass in contract writing and driver management.
The dominance of the previous Red Bull cars is clearer than ever. It covered Perez, unfortunately.
After how Perez drove last year and the crashing on purpose event at Monaco, I was already surprised to see him in a RedBull at the start of the season.
Why? Have you watched what Perez has been doing recently?
Choke-0
I believe the deal was a last ditch effort to bolster Perez’s confidence so that he could continue as the second driver, hence why they still left two very specific performance clauses in his contract. He’s already failing one, without any hope of recovery in that metric, if he falls past sixth in the drivers championship(which seems inevitable, with Mercedes and McLaren’s both showing rapid improvement), it’s safe to say that RB could void his contract entirely and drop him midseason, which would solve multiple problems for the team
Riccardo and Perez need to be ejected from F1 as a whole. These aren't a couple of young drivers who haven't proven themselves yet. These are seasoned veterans of the sport who've shown their individual peaks years ago, and it seems they just aren't capable of providing on-track excitement any more.
Not agreeing at all about age at all. Alonso's and Hamilton's performance far better then the youngsters. Ham and alo would both deliver cutthroat racing if they where max teammate
Man if only alonso hadn't resigned with aston alonso and max would be an insane driving pairing 😀
Liam for sure
Once again both Ricciardo and Yuki out-qualifed and finished higher than Checo and not just finished higher but LAPPED him.
Oust Perez ASAP, give Danny Ric half a season at Red Bull to prove himself, put Lawson in the RB, and then swap them around if there’s a case for it in 2025.
The stat I heard over the weekend really put this into perspective for me. Logan Sargent has never out qualified Alex Albon, but he has out qualified Perez on multiple occasions
Watch them get literally any other driver and have them bomb just as hard if not harder. I'm more and more convinced the problem with RB is the car is utterly undrivable unless you're a Max level talent. Hell even max has had drivability issues in recent races
No they had more tyre deg which caused Max to lose 0.1 each lap on Merc and McLaren on first stint.
But,..Max on HARD TYRES vs LH and Lando on softs, Max COULD EASILY PUSH and he was FASTER in pace than LH and Lando.
Tyre deg is now RBR’s issue
Yes
Best solution is let Perez go after summer break if he doesnt provide podium finish, give the seat to Ricciardo for the remaining season, if he performs well, then let him drive for next season or else sign Sainz for the next season
Redbull should toss out Sergio. Insert Ricciardo so if they do fire him they can say they have him every chance available. He gets along great with max and I think he will do better then Sergio. Put Lawson in the RB and let him learn slowly like Yuki did. Do not just throw him into the big seat like they did with Albon and Gasley.
I see a life after F1 with Ricciardo while still being an RB driver. Sponsor him over to Indy, and once he wins the 500, send him to Le Mans to shoot for the triple crown, or do it the other way around.
OK, hear me out. Remove Checo and promote Ricciardo again, and give Lawson Ricciardo's seat at RB.
If Dany performs well the rest of the season, then they have a driver to pair up with Max next year and RB will have its lineup for next year as well.
If Dany doesn't deliver and Lawson shows competence at RB, then they can promote him next year.
Didn't mention Yuki because at this point it seems very clear they're not interested in him.
Yuki is going to Aston Martin when they switch to Honda...isn't he?
2:47 - False. Tsunoda also always had his seat safe due to Honda. Without Honda he'd have been kicked together with de Vries or even before that.
Franz Tost saw some real promise in Yuki and he has improved greatly over the years.
So Yuki isn't really someone like Stroll or Sargent who are definitely replaceable but couldn't be kicked out because of their cash or backers.
If anything Yuki is doing better than Perez and Ricciardo and Red Bull still think those two other drivers deserve an F1 seats
There are probably some non-F1 drivers who far more deserve an F1 seat than Yuki, though.
Yuki needs to get on the podium to increase his overall reputation
@@NicholasLatipi Franz Tost wasn't the one deciding which driver will get in the car.
@@NicholasLatipiby what definition is Sargeant a cash driver?? He couldn’t race in F2 2021 due to lack of funds.
This isn't true at all. Hence why bar this season Tsunoda has had extremely late contract confirmations despite Honda being locked in for several years.
You'd know this if you listened to Helmut Marko, who oversees the young driver programme. Him being a Honda affiliate got him noticed, it probably put him in the pipeline to the seat in 2021. But it's 2024, let's not pretend he is finishing 18th every week and VCARB are just abiding Honda's wishes to keep him there.
Not considering Tsunoda is beyond me
That interview with Albon about being Max's teammate runs through my head all the time. He makes a comparison between Max's driving skills and cranking up the mouse speed to max in a game. Hardly anyone can function with a car that pointy the way Max likes it and as the season goes on and it gets even pointier, lesser drivers fall off hard.
DR can…
@@Redlingsteinricciardo before 2021 yes but ever since he move to Mclaren and the way he struggle alot their against Lando like Perez against Max he was not the same as before and who know and yes i know DR driving style is similar like Max and sometimes i whish what IF DR stay at Red bull after 2018 what F1 will Look like especially in Red bull and Max ever since and what 2021 crazy season will look like with Ricciardo in the second Red bull and especially since 2022 and also is it Ricciardo will be beat Max and be World champion like rosberg did against Lewis and is Max will still even with Ricciardo as it teamate still be dominant F1 in that Red bull since 2022 and of course Red bull will not that second driver dilemma curse since 2019 and what Gasly and Albon and Perez carrer will be like ever since ect ...?🤔😏
@@MohamedLamkhizniDaniel suffered at McLaren because he’s not a flexible driver. Like Verstappen, he very much likes a pointy car he can dart around because that suits his driving style. Unlike Verstappen, he can’t adapt to anything else. He was fine at Renault because the car once again suited his driving style. He’d be perfect in the Red Bull, but not so much in anything else
@@mrsoisauce9017jajaja yo right and i agree with you
So why did they already sign him for a one year extension? Should have waited on his contract until after the mid season.
Yuki has matured a lot and his pace with such a bad car is very good. It is strange, that they are not considering him at all. Yes, he was childish and he had mistakes, bit last two seasons he is very stable, even in bad conditions
like the time he torpedoed Ricci after the race? :)) Perfomance wise he deserves that chance, but his temper tantrums and attitude are a big no-no for the senior team.
@RambleStorm Well, yeah, although Max, Norris and Russell are always whining and complaining, they are still performing in a top level. I mean, they are actually still very young, so I don't expect them to be behave in some perfect way. We are all like that at this age, but not shown on TV, and it stays hidden. :D
@@RambleStorm Yes, he threw a tantrum over a non point scoring position. The team did that as a test to see how he handles team orders and he failed big time.
Very well explained. Everything was so well planned and designed. Great work!👍
at this point even Danny ric would be better in that seat
The timing of Perez's contract extension was baffling
If Checo is dropped, why not give Yuki a shot? Would be fun to see.
Put Yuki in the car or Carlos when he doesn't have a Ferrari ride anymore.
If Checo's performance stays on this track, put DR in his spot for the rest of the season and put Lawson in the vcarb. See how Danny holds up to Max by the end of the season and if he shits the bed, replace him with Lawson in 2025. That way, you can asses whether Danny still has it and also not rush Lawson into the main team as he'll have a good 10 races at least to acclimatise and further prove himself.
You can't understand why Tsunoda isn't being given a chance? It's simple: He likes to run his mouth. It's the same reason they punted Gasly so quickly. Immaturity isn't tolerated at Red Bull unless you are a superstar talent. Max gets to be as snarky and arrogant as he wants, because he's a top-tier talent. Tsunoda annoyed Marko with his attitude, and as such he will never see the inside of an RB cockpit.
Red Bull shouldn't have given Checo that deal. He clearly isn't up to continuously supporting Red Bull remain at the top leaving Max to carry the team himself. Hell Max won the constructor's last year on his own. The fact he couldn't deliver when the car was vastly better than the rest of the grid should've been a sign that he isn't the kinda 2nd driver they need.
I think it's very odd the different language used when comparing Yuki and Daniel when you consider both of them has had ups and downs and more often than not they are very close in terms of performance.
Hw does Lawson get considered for the Red Bull seat over Yuki.... in races that they both finished Yuki beat him... and destroyed riccardo. Riccardo doesnt deserve that seat but Checo is doing much worse
I know it’s kind of annoying how he mentions how Lawson and even DR is more in contention of having the seat than Yuki who’s outperformed for a much longer time
well over almost any driver atm. they need experience now, not take a risk with a rookie
I was so impressed with lawson. Would love to see him get half a season in the red bull to see how he does.