The Anatomy Of A Motorcycle Battery Charging System
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2017
- An in depth look at modern motorcycle charging system with some basic theory of operation and tips and tricks to help you understand and diagnose common charging system problems.
2:35 Why is there a buzzing noise under my seat when I push the start button.
7:34 I get a click when I push the start button.
8:55 Some basic electrical theory, how three phase generators work.
21:35 Testing to see if your bike is charging.
27:00 Testing the AC output of a three-phase generator.
32.57 What an AC generator signal looks like, and how to spot a bad one.
36:30 56:00 Testing a Regulator Rectifier.
40:00 Generator Removal.
43:30 What a burnt out generator looks like.
Generator coil static testing 43:50 (known bad) 52:00 (known good).
47:40 New generator.
53:05 Testing the output of a known good generator.
56:00 Dynamic testing a known good regulator rectifier.
57:37 Final charging tests, what a good system should look like.
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I concur. Great to find a bloke who knows what he's talking about and is willing to share it in the patient way you did. You don't have to apologise for complexity and if waffling is adding context and detail than it's allowed too. Great work. Interesting way of starting a fire.
You sir are an absolute genius. I have a six-month old Harley that has gone through three regulators. After watching your video I'm positive it's the stator/generator that is stuffed. They "The Technicians" keep saying it's a bad batch of regulators, and the only way this could be the case, is if the diodes were stuffed in all three regulators? I don't think so. Which leads me to conclude that it's the stator/generator. Oh and by the way there's nothing wrong with waffling 👍👍👍.
Finally! Someone who point out that, you can only check diodes in R/R, not the regulation circuit. It seems that the whole world is missing that.
Outstanding instructional detail, thank you for showing how to performs the ohms check on the faulty generator wires, many only perform the rewind.
That is the best how to I have seen or read to fully diagnose a charging system fault!!! Thanks!!
I have to add also this is the best guide I have seen from someone who actually knows exactly what they are talking about - well done sir
i think i just found my favorite channel 🙌
This is by far the most helpful video I've ever seen on youtube. Thank you James. I knew absolutely nothing about the electrical systems of a bike before this video, and now I feel that I get the whole idea about what's going on in there. You're genius. Hope we could have such educated and knows-what-he-does-exactly type mechanics like you around here too. Such a great misfortune..
I'll be digging your other videos. Thanks again..
For flip sakes, been hunting so long for someone with skill at explaining in detail what goes on in my bike. Thanks for your effort and help, much appreciated.
Very good tutorial, thank you. The graphic waveform of AC when idling vs. higher revs frequency and amplitude is so informative.
Fantastic video tutorial.... Could not believe it was 1hr plus video.... I've gained confidence in tackling more complex electrical work, very informative, thank you.
What a fantastic video. I've been riding for years and always wondered about this as had heard about rr's, windings and generators but never knew the setup. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise.
This is the best ever electrical charging system video ever made. I actually understand exactly how it works now after watching the video Better then evening class. Thank you James Wright-Roberts and please make more videos
great to see you posting again Jim, along with yourself and Delboy I've learnt so much and saved loads of money, cheers.
I feel I have a good basic understanding of electrical systems. I have always been reluctant to invest in an oscilloscope, but since watching your video, I see the importance of using one. Thank you James for being patient, and thorough.
Great video mate. Some might say it’s a bit long, but that’s because people have no patience. If they watched it attentively there are a number of tips and tricks to pick up on - even for the experienced home tinkerer. Keep doing what you’re doing, including the “waffling” because some of us want more comprehensive explanations. Let the vacant headed watch the quick videos and fix their bike without understanding what they’ve done! Cheers for your efforts.
Thanks for the kind words :)
Well explained , Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I learned a lot from it.
Great job, glad that you explained the different symptoms of regulator and alternator failings.
Thanks for your time and effort to explain this subject - great help. Cheers
This is a very very helpfull video. Thank you so much!
You're not just say what you do, but also WHY you do it. In detail. Excellent!
Excellent video quality, clear explanations... Even I understood it! James, you are the professor, the master. Please, can I have some more?
Excellent! You are skilled and competent; no need to be apologetic. "Smoother" TH-camrs are more scripted and rehearsed and do much more editing, but I don't mind the slow pace of your lengthy vid -- it was relaxing, and you presented at a speed which I could comprehend, without needing to pause and replay parts of it.
Wow. I'm bran new at all things motorcycle electronics, and I'm dealing with the symptoms of flat battery. In researching the possible problems, I found your video. I'm so glad that I watched this one first. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into this. You did a really great job, despite your humble self-doubt. I intend to watch this again before I tackle my bike, but I already feel much more confident. Thank you again.
Thanks so much, those are very kind words. I get most of my inspiration from comments like this. thank you :)
You explained it perfectly! The asw. u did in upper r corner would be 2 switches on some bikes,
an engine run sw. when on it sends juice to the ignition system points condenser coils etc and to
one side of the starter sw.
I am not much familiar with electricals but your video was so informative and well explained, I understood the whole concept. Thank you for making such an awesome video.
Nice video, thank you for making it. As for the theory bits, it is not only useful for those who don't know anything about this, because for one thing, a little refresher never hurts, and for another, it is interesting to see how someone goes about explaining magnetic fields and stuff. Kudos for overcoming your reluctance to get into it. For me, however, the most interesting was to watch someone both knowledgeable and experienced to solve the real life problem. Thank you again with hopes for more vids like this to come.
Thank you very much for this great demonstration and shared your experience with us.
Thank you very much for your time. It was the best I have seen with the practical side shown excellently. I wish there were more videos like this. I going to recommend to all my friends
Happy days. Another very informative video and baseball caps in your store. Sorted. By the way, what you call waffling is just you imparting essential, basic, information to learners like me, who may only have a slight grasp of the concept. Carry on waffling.
thanks for making this and explaining how it all works in an easy to understand way,great job mate
I watched that whole video. Thanks for that education. I am about to wire up a 76 harley and although I'm pretty good with wrenching, I was a little intimidated with this part. Now I am at least confident enough to try. Really well explained. 👍👍👍
Thank-you :)
Thank you! You helped me fix my no charging problem!
Terrific video, thank you! This helped me diagnose and repair my 2002 Yamaha Road Star Silverado. Cheers!
Just watched all of this , loved it ! , Some very helpful tips and knowledge for my 26 year old zzr
Great video, interesting and informative. Really enjoy these tutorial vids, I personally like the "waffling". Thanks.
Thanks for taking the time to create a nice tutorial for us DIY’s. 👍🖖🏽
Nice video thanks, I remember having a 1980s Suzuki & book said should get 80v off each phase when reved up, seemed a bit high to me. Well done.
Fantastic Video REALLY HRLPRD me understand. I have a Honda cbr 600 ft 1996 with timefelt charging issues and just got worse. NEEDED to understand MORE you did it like a TEACHER Thankyou Verymuch
Great info, man. Can definitely say I know a lot more about my charging system now. Thanks.
Excellent video thank you. the waffling helps as well
Found this really interesting. Good process to follow for those kind of issues. 10/10
You sir explain yourself very well, thankyou! I completely enjoyed the attention to detail, thank you again, keep it up!
came across a bit of your stuff recently -excellent no need to apologize real good stuff I am sure it is helping many out and just plain interesting to others. ta
That was very educational and informative, thanks Jim.
Very helpful, very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Superb ,clearly clarify my doubt very nice .
I really like your videos, lots of useful information and insight, all clearly explained. Thank you!
Excellent video.It's well explained & very informative,I learned a lot.Thanks
Ah man you are very good thank you. It’s fantastic to get a professional to explain. Thank you
Excellent review of this whole area, there are so many videos that don’t cover the technical side, usually because the host is waffling about things they only have surface knowledge of... I dont think you waffle at all.. you provide good solid information. Don’t be put off by idiots who want you to just vomit up what they want and who don’t have the patience to watch and be educated. Top class
So great and fantastic and practical the video! Spreads powerful confidence to riders and mechanics. Really kindhearted to really want to share all your knowledge! Great teacher! Learnt so much in depth from you!
Observations:
1. It is not safe to have a tea cup next to your workspace full of metal bits and drinking it.
2. The waffling is just your very cute way of thinking aloud but viewers can just speed it up at 1.5x speed and the viewer will find the video very watchable.
All in all, I like best the oscilloscope and seeing the AC wave forms and the differences in a weak amplification denoting a bad part. Well-done!!!!
Thanks for your kind words 🙏
Excellent video!. Thank you so much. Im taking my multimeter out to the bike right now!
Great video, now I need a basic lays out the wiring from battery to all other components in the order they go, in a easy to read, Drawing. although what I just saw helped a great bit. THANKS for posting.
Thanks for easy and straight forward video. I’ll double check connection to battery BEFORE pulling apart :)
Not waffle at all. Very instructive. Similar to what happened to my Street Triple, only it was the Reg/Rec and I was lucky it didn't fry the alternator. Thank you.
Very helpful tutorial. Thank you so much!
I learned so much from this video. Thanks for sharing!
I feel a lot wiser now, thanks for the video keep up the good work.
Great help. Thank you for taking the time.
Brilliant, although I have the grasp on electrics, charging and regulation, that was a well thought out and presented video and I learnt a few
things along the way, firstly I have to get one of those Snap on multi function testers , you also have a nice clean work ethic as well. good on you Bud!!
Very helpful video film for me,Now I understand how it work . Thanks [PL].
Best explanation have seen on this subject. Thanks very much for taking the time to share your obvious experience. fab
Kind words, thanks for the positivity 👍
Thanks for the great video
Thanks for the efforts to make this tutorial 🤗
Good thorough demo, thanks
Thanks for doing these James
Hi yeah I had an 80s Suzuki & was meant to be around 86volts at 3000 revs if I recall correctly. Love your informative videos & you don’t hide your balls ups very honest stuff, I was told when I was an apprentice people who don’t make f-k ups because they haven’t made f-k all. Well done.
Not often I comment on vids but wow!!! I watched the whole vid and I learned a lot!! I am actually a motorcycle trials dealer and even tho I know about mechanics etc electrics have always been my down side!! So this vid is was very interesting to me. Any chance maybe you making a vid on trials and off road bike electrics?? As I think you would explain it better than most. PS you didn't waffle at all!!! :) :) it was all amazing learning cheers please do more thanks again
I'm having problems with my 2000 beta rev 3. I learned a lot from this video, but He didn't talk about the cdi. I can't figure out if it's my stator or my cdi, or both. On the beta the main power doesn't go to the regulator. It goes to the cdi and then the ignition coil. I can't start it because the spark is too weak.
Great video, thx! Very well explained.
Great video
I want whatever is in the coffee you are really fast after a cup
I really enjoyed the video learned a lot
Thank you
Some bike starters have a heavier solenoid that does what the solenoid does AND also
pushes the pinion gear on the starter shaft out to mesh with the ring gear on the clutch
basket. You are making a lot of sense, you are doing a fine job, the stator is a core built up
of much thinner pieces of iron separated by electrical varnish coils wound on bobbins.
if the core were 1 piece of metal magnetic field passing through it and would heat it...
You are doing a fine job SuperBike Surgery. the 3 phases are 120 degrees apart. I bet you
specialize in bike electrics. Harley Sportsters use a single phase but the DYNA series does
use as you said a 3-phase stator w 3 leads. Ride safe my friend.
Excellent video. My battery swelled before failure so this was helpful
Top job many thanks for giving your time
Many thanks for that video ,I thoroughly enjoyed that ,and learned a lot too thank you
great stuff really helps me understand my motorbike better
this video helped me a lot with a project im doing
Great video and explanations.
That’s brilliant! Thanks for your explanations 👍😎
Just started motorcycle technician course and I find the electrical side of things so interesting that I’m leaning towards becoming a auto electrician. This is a really interesting watch and a well put together video 👍 I will also subscribe 😊
Thanks for your kind words mate 👍If you're serious about educating yourself with regards to all things electrical, the single best thing you can do in my opinion is watch everything from "Scanner Danner" (Paul Danner) the guy is a living legend in the automotive electrical world.
I've absolutely no affiliation personally but highly recommend. You can also subscribe to his premium content and get access to all his collage lectures. He also has a book alongside the course he teaches. Good luck 👍
Another excellent video. Much appreciated.
wow. this is one of the coolest video i ved seen the hole mouth.
Many Thanks !
Thank you sir for this very informative video.
Brilliant video.Thanks.
Great JOB, glad u said how coils could be grounded, I have seen that two coils making a
contact with the core WILL burn out the windings. And if coils overheat they may not make
contact with the core, but heat up enough to burn off the insulation and thus lessening the
number of turns in the coil, and reducing the amount of voltage built up in that coil. The size
of the wire determines how much current the coil can produce and it determines the amount
of turns as well, So if the coil is wound with 12 gage wire which could be good for 20 amps
it would be a given number of turns in that coil. volts X amps gives power. So if the coil/
coils overheated, you can get the same amps but lesser volts will give you a lesser amount
of power.
I have found a bad cell in the battery can burn out a stator/generator as the regulator will
keep telling the gen the battery is low, but the battery being bad will still crank the starter
at 10 volts and the gen will toast itself trying to bring up a battery to 12 volts, but since the
battery is bad the gen will get wankered somewhere down the road.
Thanks, from Cloudcroft, New Mexico, US
Thanks for the lesson!
very helpful easy to follow. keep making the videos
Great video, good use of the scope, thank you
Like your style, James. Calm, collected and professional. Easy listening and interesting. Wishing you all the best for the business, I know what it is to be self employed! When possible, can you cover more BMW stuff that comes your way? Better than the 'cursing Yank' as regards BM's any day.
Fantastic explanation.
HELLO SIR!
BEAUTIFULL LESSON AND A VERY GOOD TEACHING !!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
REGARDS.
SHULY.
awesome class !! thanks man!
fantastic video...thanks...technicaly the device discussed is an alternator....ie produces ac.....generators produce dc.
Must admit, I had no interest in learning ab out charging systems...until this popped up. Actually learnt stuff I can hopefully use later. Appreciate the effort for this, and the other vids. If that's not worth a hat purchase... :)
Thx for the video, it is very useful.
Brilliant!! Learned alot!
Fantastic insight top man at the electrics.
Epic explanation!
Good video. Thank you.
Excellent it is really beneficial a huge thanks to you 👍👍👍👍👍