Rhykker, the paid heroes will be free for this season ONLY, after that, access to them will be revoked. The devs are NOT changing their monetization model at all. This situation is TEMPORARY for this season only.
A company who leads with aggressive monetization will have NO problem going back that direction at their first opportunity. No thanks. There are PLENTY of other ARPGs to play.
It’s not even “aggressive” monetization lol. You can easily make FE in the game. The only real reason you would pay is to be top of the leaderboards, which in the end who the hell cares.
Yeah, but you know what happened? The devs tried to make a live-service TL game called "Frontiers" and it was a disaster, so they washed their hands of it and disband and their parent company sold the rights to the franchise off to X.D. who did what they failed at. But that also means it's Asian themed now.
I left the game while it was in beta due to the monetisation issues, and the way it felt to far removed from the previous games. I think I’ll give it another try this season
The base characters have lots of options and are plenty powerful, and up until now, you could easily earn a new hero every season with minimal investment and in recent seasons they've made it even easier. You'd know that if you'd tried it, instead of deleting it without playing it.
Yeah, I clicked this video wondering if this game was worth trying now maybe... Heard they sponsored it and stopped. I'm sorry Rhykker, I definitely want you to have income for your hard work, but this video instantly is not a reliable source anymore.
You can. It has team-up mode and multiplayer is coming at some point in the not too distant future I'd hope, since Team-up mode is basically a beta for multiplayer. Not that anyone's really going to use it in the end but it is coming.
@@immortalforge21 it’s why I haven’t played this game since beta not that it’s my only game option I just made.m a statement that online games are better with friends if I want solo I would play offline also I play poe so I really don’t need to play any solo games at all
Correction: The paid heroes are *not* going to become free. They are still going to be paid, nothing is changing. What's happening is that for this season ONLY, you will be able to play any hero you want. That's it and it ends with the season. They need a real monetization model, not trying to sell heroes that are mostly reskins.
so how would you get pack spirits now? you could grind them before too at an amount of 10-20 per season. locked behind dailies and s*it. Which is basically the pay to win aspect since those would grant stats and abilities.
I might have misunderstood but I thought the "free heroes" part was only for this season where we can play all previous heroes for free except the new one. But I didn't hear them saying it will be the same for the next seasons
god, I hope that is the case, because of not, that is gonna do 10x the harm in the long run there WILL be a review bomb if they go that route. it would be SO much better if they made all the heroes free by waiting
Doesn't this still mean the new heroes are locked behind the BP? Or is it just for the current new hero and all previous season new heroes will be free from every season following this?
It's still a mobile game ported to PC. Until they bother to make a REAL PC UI and controls I won't bother more. I genuinely like the base features of the game and the character designs but mobile game.... Nope.
Torch Light devs CA$HED out their reputation with Torch Light 3. I was happy with T1/T2 and so I happily bought T3 without giving much thoughts. Boy was I duped. The game was an unfinished trash and that was the LAST time I spent money with this company. It's true, you live and _DIE_ by your reputation.
No they didn't. The Torchlight devs (Runic) went out of business some time after Torchlight 2, they had no reputation to lose and had nothing to do with TL3. Perfect World (now Arc Games?) gained the rights to the IP, they allowed "XD" to make Torchlight Infinite, and they allowed Echtra to make Torchlight 3. Echtra failed abysmally with Torchlight 3, they ran out of money and sold themselves to Zynga or something and the game was abandoned. XD made an amazing game with Torchlight Infinite, it may not have much relation to TL1 or 2, but it's easily a far better game than either of them at this point. These are three very different companies with 3 very different "reputations."
so...is the game still P2W or not? and more importantly, will the be doing the thing with making past heroes available for all future heroes going forward?
@@Straggler8 Eh....The problem is, I DON'T rate PoE a 10/10. I might rate it at a 7 and D4 at an 8. I know it's a hot take, but I just don't think PoE is that great.
@@foxxknight8847 I do not either, it's more of a perspective score and how much people like it etc. Torchlight Infinite is basically an arcade version of PoE - it took the best complexities and buildcraftings from PoE and slapped fast pace and chill, easy gaming on that
Don’t expect Torchlight; this game is totally different, just shares the name and visuals. But if you want a streamlined PoE experience, this is for you.
People, who never played a game talking how bad it is, how terrible and how "dead" is always funny. Game is "dead" because new season is coming and the current one lasts for over 100 days. This game is good and the devs are changing their directions, slowly modifying this game from mobile to pc, which of course, takes time to get rid off typical asian mechanics to turn into western mechanics. I have over 700hours and paid 0, yes, u see right ZERO, NULL and achieved everything in this game for free, just by playing. New season, all heroes (excluding the new one) will be for free. This game, today is much better after almost 2 years, than PoE was in it's first 2 years 11 years ago. PoE devs also didn't have plans about their game in first 3 years, so they were changing game a lot and figuring it out what would be better in general. The same happens to Torchlight, as devs try to nerf all heroes to reduce DPS numbers in general and are changing crafting to not stick to legendaries only, so people can craft gear. Game is good and will be better and when somebody has fun playing it, then there is nothing wrong until you're not pushed to pay. But if u think it's "p2w" because somebody said it, then it's something wrong with you.
I like to play some TLI on season start but this time im afraid i wont have the time xD Great news for the futur of the game tho. Thanks for covering !
The amount of people who've never played the game seething about issues the game doesn't have and most getting it blatantly wrong about what mechanics are and aren't in the game is astounding the game is deserving of criticism in aspects but the disingenuous nature these people go about it is really telling ngl
??? D4 doesn't release a new class with every season. they literally just added Spiritborn, wtf are you on about? what could they possibly implement here?
The game is POE lite with a lot of QOL, such as ingame build planners and ingame build templates. Can even share ingame replays via ingame chat. I suggest you give it a try and find at least 1 hero that might be fun considering they are all free excluding season 6 hero. Still I think we all know what game will be played mid to late november also starts with "Path of "
@@immortalforge21 if i leave the game after five minutes it means it aint for me. I like t1-2-3. I hoped this would be like it Imagine how i was disappointed...
Click my link bit.ly/3TnSb9H and be the first to dive into Torchlight: Infinite SS6 Frozen Canvas on October 24 at 7PM PDT.
Watch out for yellow snow!!
are they ever going to put it on console?
@@josiahcarter2596 yes, in a few years
@@SpinGoal worth the wate i hope loved the other ones
Rhykker, the paid heroes will be free for this season ONLY, after that, access to them will be revoked. The devs are NOT changing their monetization model at all. This situation is TEMPORARY for this season only.
I read the thumbnail as "Torchlight: infinite monetization" lol
i've clicked just to see if this comment existed
The simple fact that you can’t see the armor you equip is a hard no for me.
Lake of Kalandra 2.0 (hopefully the layout of the map is good and the time it takes to make a map isn't too long, unlike Lake)
My mum always told me to stay away from coloured snow.
A company who leads with aggressive monetization will have NO problem going back that direction at their first opportunity. No thanks. There are PLENTY of other ARPGs to play.
Hopefully you have never looked for forgiveness after making a mistake.
@@nr-ww4th hopefully you learn not to trust corporations
Its f2p unless u a dumbfk 😂
It’s not even “aggressive” monetization lol. You can easily make FE in the game. The only real reason you would pay is to be top of the leaderboards, which in the end who the hell cares.
@@Turtlelover7you don't even need to pay to be on the top though:)
Remember when Torchlight used to be an honest little ARPG underdog series with a charming steampunk art direction?
Pepperidge Farms remembers
seriously. wtf is going on at 9:20?
Yeah, but you know what happened? The devs tried to make a live-service TL game called "Frontiers" and it was a disaster, so they washed their hands of it and disband and their parent company sold the rights to the franchise off to X.D. who did what they failed at. But that also means it's Asian themed now.
I left the game while it was in beta due to the monetisation issues, and the way it felt to far removed from the previous games. I think I’ll give it another try this season
I tryed torchlight few weaks ago. All cool looking classes were lock behind a paywal. I deleted the game without playing it
Fr 😂
sound about right.
The base characters have lots of options and are plenty powerful, and up until now, you could easily earn a new hero every season with minimal investment and in recent seasons they've made it even easier. You'd know that if you'd tried it, instead of deleting it without playing it.
That's not true 😂 you just a noob
Don t forget the game is free bro, not like other games that sell DLCs for 40$, u unlock all the heroes with a 10$ battle pass
I'm always leary watching a video about content that is sponsored by that content
Yeah, I clicked this video wondering if this game was worth trying now maybe... Heard they sponsored it and stopped. I'm sorry Rhykker, I definitely want you to have income for your hard work, but this video instantly is not a reliable source anymore.
Soon the Aemberons will feel the wrath of more catgirls than ever before 😈
11.03 is a very long ad...
Monetization aside the lack of group play with friends is ridiculous this day and age.
They are following in the steps of Diablo 4 🤣
almost nobody plays ARPG's in groups so I can understand they don't care much about implementing it.
The D4 which just added multiplayer raids and rewarding Tthe best item in the game there?
Stats say people play mostly solo anyway. People want multiplayer but hey hardly play it so what’s the point of devs adding it.
TLI has multiplayer
Wish we could play with friends in that game
You can. It has team-up mode and multiplayer is coming at some point in the not too distant future I'd hope, since Team-up mode is basically a beta for multiplayer. Not that anyone's really going to use it in the end but it is coming.
Play solo bro and race with them
@@immortalforge21 if I wanted to play solo I would play offline games
@@phishmastermike then do so
@@immortalforge21 it’s why I haven’t played this game since beta not that it’s my only game option I just made.m a statement that online games are better with friends if I want solo I would play offline also I play poe so I really don’t need to play any solo games at all
As always, great content but get some sleep bro, you look exhausted
that skill augmentation sounds/looks cool but seems like a balancing nightmare
His follow up video will be titled the one trick the devs don't want you to know about.
Correction: The paid heroes are *not* going to become free. They are still going to be paid, nothing is changing. What's happening is that for this season ONLY, you will be able to play any hero you want. That's it and it ends with the season. They need a real monetization model, not trying to sell heroes that are mostly reskins.
In Bugs Bunny voice : "Noooopppppppeeeeee"
so how would you get pack spirits now? you could grind them before too at an amount of 10-20 per season. locked behind dailies and s*it. Which is basically the pay to win aspect since those would grant stats and abilities.
I might have misunderstood but I thought the "free heroes" part was only for this season where we can play all previous heroes for free except the new one. But I didn't hear them saying it will be the same for the next seasons
god, I hope that is the case, because of not, that is gonna do 10x the harm in the long run
there WILL be a review bomb if they go that route. it would be SO much better if they made all the heroes free by waiting
I actually cant stand how that game looks.
It is just using torchlight name, it has nothing to do with it.
Yeah I can't get over that either especially the awful menus.
Agreed
Yeah, main reason why I don't want to play it.
They said they'll be doing visual rework. Idk to which extent, but still we'll see in the future
Doesn't this still mean the new heroes are locked behind the BP? Or is it just for the current new hero and all previous season new heroes will be free from every season following this?
All previous season heroes will now be free
and for the people that already paid for all the classes in torchlight?
We know what happens with 2,0 ;-)
Of course I'll give it a try, I miss being able to freeze and just explode mobs!!
I thought this game is still in development. I saw the title of the video an was shocked to see, "...Season 6!"
I played Torchlight 2 for a good while. I understand why you have a soft spot for the game but this is worst than being hooked with Blizzard tbh
I thought this was a mobile game for toddlers. Rip Torchlight
Oh cool look. Another game I didn’t know existed and can go back to not knowing as soon as I click off this video.
can we buy the characters now for game currency even ? is the only thing that they can do to bring some ppl back.
For next season all heroes are free besides new one which comes with battle pass
Rhykker; blink twice if contractual obligations force you to make this content and don't have a say in the matter! 👀
It's still a mobile game ported to PC.
Until they bother to make a REAL PC UI and controls I won't bother more.
I genuinely like the base features of the game and the character designs but mobile game.... Nope.
hey rhykker, this is folks
Hope it gets good, dont feel like a Torchlight game now it feels like a bad p2w mobilegame
Torch Light devs CA$HED out their reputation with Torch Light 3. I was happy with T1/T2 and so I happily bought T3 without giving much thoughts. Boy was I duped. The game was an unfinished trash and that was the LAST time I spent money with this company. It's true, you live and _DIE_ by your reputation.
No they didn't. The Torchlight devs (Runic) went out of business some time after Torchlight 2, they had no reputation to lose and had nothing to do with TL3. Perfect World (now Arc Games?) gained the rights to the IP, they allowed "XD" to make Torchlight Infinite, and they allowed Echtra to make Torchlight 3. Echtra failed abysmally with Torchlight 3, they ran out of money and sold themselves to Zynga or something and the game was abandoned. XD made an amazing game with Torchlight Infinite, it may not have much relation to TL1 or 2, but it's easily a far better game than either of them at this point. These are three very different companies with 3 very different "reputations."
so...is the game still P2W or not?
and more importantly, will the be doing the thing with making past heroes available for all future heroes going forward?
i am gonna come back to game next season, havent played since launch, should i play gemma or berserker?
Is this sponsored?
He forgets this game exists and then makes a video about it when they sponsor him. MrLlama also...
So is Infinite actually worth playing? I've been wary since they shit the bed completely with Torchlight 3.
If you score PoE 10/10 and Diablo4 7/10 - Torchlight is somewhere between 8.5/9 - it's incredibly good game that suffers a lot because of being mobile
@@Straggler8 Eh....The problem is, I DON'T rate PoE a 10/10. I might rate it at a 7 and D4 at an 8. I know it's a hot take, but I just don't think PoE is that great.
@@foxxknight8847 I do not either, it's more of a perspective score and how much people like it etc. Torchlight Infinite is basically an arcade version of PoE - it took the best complexities and buildcraftings from PoE and slapped fast pace and chill, easy gaming on that
Don’t expect Torchlight; this game is totally different, just shares the name and visuals. But if you want a streamlined PoE experience, this is for you.
New char will always be behind paywall just a heads up.
I really liked Torchlight 1 and 2.
I’ve been waiting for this game to come to console for a long time.
massive overhaul again? thought they already had a 2.0
👎🏻
Don't eat the colored snow
"mobile game on pc" im out
I mean… it’s better than Wolcen
Synthesis? Is that you?
nice
Yeah just can't get into this one. Sorry.
Don't eat the yellow snow.
Colored snow.... 😅 umm sounds bad. Haha
Dead game. PoE II about to close down a few arpgs soon!
So is PoE2 coming to mobile ?
You must be crazy if you think PoE2 could do serious harm to a mobile game.
Trashlight...
Dead game
how much they pay you to promote this garbage game.
People, who never played a game talking how bad it is, how terrible and how "dead" is always funny. Game is "dead" because new season is coming and the current one lasts for over 100 days. This game is good and the devs are changing their directions, slowly modifying this game from mobile to pc, which of course, takes time to get rid off typical asian mechanics to turn into western mechanics. I have over 700hours and paid 0, yes, u see right ZERO, NULL and achieved everything in this game for free, just by playing. New season, all heroes (excluding the new one) will be for free. This game, today is much better after almost 2 years, than PoE was in it's first 2 years 11 years ago. PoE devs also didn't have plans about their game in first 3 years, so they were changing game a lot and figuring it out what would be better in general. The same happens to Torchlight, as devs try to nerf all heroes to reduce DPS numbers in general and are changing crafting to not stick to legendaries only, so people can craft gear. Game is good and will be better and when somebody has fun playing it, then there is nothing wrong until you're not pushed to pay. But if u think it's "p2w" because somebody said it, then it's something wrong with you.
I like to play some TLI on season start but this time im afraid i wont have the time xD
Great news for the futur of the game tho.
Thanks for covering !
This looks nothing like torchlight lol
The amount of people who've never played the game seething about issues the game doesn't have and most getting it blatantly wrong about what mechanics are and aren't in the game is astounding the game is deserving of criticism in aspects but the disingenuous nature these people go about it is really telling ngl
This is good idea. I hope Blizzard takes it and implements it in D4 as a seasonal theme in the future.
???
D4 doesn't release a new class with every season. they literally just added Spiritborn, wtf are you on about?
what could they possibly implement here?
@@dragonriderabens9761"seasonal theme" makes it very obvious that no one is talking about classes here 😉
The only reason I haven't played this game is because the Steam deck login for Google is broken.
Meh
I might play again when new season comes out…
The game is POE lite with a lot of QOL, such as ingame build planners and ingame build templates. Can even share ingame replays via ingame chat. I suggest you give it a try and find at least 1 hero that might be fun considering they are all free excluding season 6 hero. Still I think we all know what game will be played mid to late november also starts with "Path of "
the mechanic is just a copy paste of lake of kaladra from PoE lol, and the support skills are just a reskin of transfigured gems also from poe
devs claimed for years that TLI is basically POE lite with qol updates, so no surprise there.
Fr I love this game, I cant wait for this season coming up
Huge win can’t wait to hit for 1 trillion on the training dummy!🎉
Torchlit
For a while now, Rhykker makes great quality videos for not so great quality games.
torchlight 3 is much better then this..,mobile thing..
T3 trash bad replica of diablo3 , without any endgame content
How to say you didn t even try it lmao
@@immortalforge21 unfortunately i did. A game where your loot has no impact on model, or builds or both, is mobile cancer on arpg
@@antipaladinTM if u enter the game and leave after 5 mins it doesn t mean u played it bro
@@immortalforge21 if i leave the game after five minutes it means it aint for me.
I like t1-2-3. I hoped this would be like it
Imagine how i was disappointed...
Ima go full Bob Ross in the game then have a happy accident when I rage quit due to my lack of skill.
I'm suprised how negative the comment section is. This game is literally one of the best along with PoE and 'maybe' diablo 4 right now.
Better than D4 for sure. Gonna be nice playing it till PoE2 drops
Better than D4 trillions dmg but 0 dmg to bosses in Pit 😂🛌
looks way better than trash D4 im in