Exactly. That's with this channel is 10,000 times better than other well-produced channels like Bedtime Stories. No insulting the intelligence with absurdity; just the genuine, chilling, eerie truth.
@@DreamsAreLies - I'm sure it's English. It was, however, famously used in a speech by Malcolm X: "There'll be no skullduggery, no flim-flam, no controlled show..."
For any viewers who visit England, the Foundling Museum holds many a tragic tale of women who ended up in the Thames. Many women’s stories of how they became pregnant and so misfortunate that they had to prove themselves to be allowed to leave their babies there, if rejected threw themselves in or sometimes were discarded there. As you tour the museum the stories are whispered through the sound system, which is even more heartbreaking. It was tough times for unmarried women who fell pregnant.
wish all documentaries were like this, really interesting. Its a breath of fresh air when there is no over dramatization, which is so prevalent in a lot of other documentaries. well done..
My own great great something grandpa escaped hanging at Execution Dock, along with the surviving crew members of the smuggling ship after a sea battle during which they killed at least one Excise man before surrendering. The entire crew refused to speak a word of English during the trial and claimed to be Dutch. They insisted on having a translator present, and they actually got away with it. The story has been told ever since in my family.
@@lushkarma2012 Calm British voice, that can be fully understood, yes not like Stephen Fry's excellent voice but it's ok, also certainly not a loud fast, no pause American voice, recently I had to decrease 2 American uploads to .75 speed as they spoke too fast with no pausing.
In the documentary "Eastern Promises" I saw how two Russian models threw old mannikens into the river because they were too stiff to be used in a store front!
You have a great eye for interesting content and a wonderful voice in which to deliver it. My only complaint is I want more, more, more! Sorry, I got a bit carried away! Not to mention greedy! And selfish! Actually, this is all your fault! You’re the one that’s hooked me!
@@CuriousWorldProductions I love your videos. It is evident by the rhythm of your narration just how much effort you put in. It must take a long time to get the facts straight and tell the story without it ever sounding salacious. Great work.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I'm pretty sure that you have. An excellent upload - just what we've grown to expect from Curious World. I hope that life is treating you well, and that you and your loved ones are staying safe. Take care ✌️
I'm crying for all the loss. Curious World is some of THE BEST content available on YT. God rest the first gentleman found at Waterloo Bridge and his family 🥺
I have always wondered why no one ever did any video's on bodies found in the Thames, except for you. This is such a fascinating area for videos, I hope you do more! I grew up on the Mississippi and it also has a lot of Bodies in it.
@@CuriousWorldProductions Well you can do them like you do your various places videos, well spaced out. Although you probably know what is best for you and your channel. I really enjoyed this video.
Just finished a 12 hour shift in a Nursing Home , what a treat to view a Curious World video 👍❤️ Contracted the Covid thingie and had to self isolate for 10 days 😶 Which wasn't fun 😶 Happy to be back at work now ! Thank You for the video CW 👍
I returned back to London after decades away and at night walked over Waterloo Bridge and viewed the dark waters of the river. I felt strange and fearful of the river. I must admit I had been working on Southwark bridge earlier that day and the news of the disco boat was about the last time I worked near the river. It is a minute to cross by road transport, but when you are on a small boat that river is very big and fast. It gives me chills being near it at night.
25:04 Epilepsy in NO WAY makes you commit murder. At worst you have uncontrollable spasms (grand mal), at the very least you go into a staring daze (petit mal). It certainly doesn't make you do things you don't want to do like murdering someone.
Certain seizures can make for some messy behaviours... murder isn't one. Eloping, eating uncontrolled, verbal abuse or kicking off (generally in confusion) etc are indeed normal post tonic clonic.
Epilepsy's a lot more complex than that- but people with it are NOT deranged murderers either. My ex had medication-resistant epilepsy, & he had "mixed" seizures, sometimes for many hours- sometimes they included grand mal (tonic-clonic) & petit mal (absence) episodes, but he also went into a state where he was "conscious" & active but couldn't understand what was going on, & he DEFINITELY did things he didn't want to do, including being violent.
My great grandfather was found dead in the river Thames at Kew in 1894! The old newspaper article gave no further details & my grandma was just a girl when it happened.
A fascinating programme, I really enjoyed it. As a point of interest, the Thames Flood disaster was covered by the late Hugh Redwood, who wrote for the Evening Standard. Anyway, it marked a turning point in his life, as he got involved in helping the Salvation Army Slums Division in their rescue work that night, and eventually to a series of books about their work. The flood is covered in the book "God in the Slums", and includes a poignant detail - he found a waterlogged school exercise book in which a child had written "The river is called Father Thames, because it is so good to us...."
Back in the early 1960s my dad was sitting on the river bank at Kingston upon Thames with his mate doing a bit of fishing, his favourite pastime. What he hadn`t bargained for was when he fished a young boy out of the water that he described as "dead as mutton". I never learnt any further details.
Months ago I saw on Pinterest some photographs from that flooding in the 1920s. Little did I know people died because of it. Rest in peace to those people who lost their lives.
One of the most interesting and well put-together videos on youtube. Also, the most original content, and not the same case', just re-done/re-read/regurgitated by different youtube presenters/channels. THIS is absolutely one of the best channels on youtube, and I look forward to every video!
@@CuriousWorldProductions I've never heard anything like it myself - I'm amazed that his lawyer went along with such a defence. It shows a shockingly callous disregard for the victims, and of course their respective friends and families. Not only having to listen to this lowlife describe how he'd killed their daughter/sister, but to then hear him attempt to justify the awful mutilation with one of the strangest reasonings I've ever heard. Clearly a very dangerous man - I'd be surprised if he doesn't have more victims.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 He was quite possibly a narcissist as well as a very violent man. They think they are above the law and have superficial charm and are fantastic liars. Probably thought he could get away with lying which had more than likely worked for him throughout his life up to that point. Just my theory.
I once told an actor, who did a skit as a killer, that he played it too crazy. When I watch who-do-it shows, I always guess the killer. The actor always gives it away.
I have been through three floods,seawater & river.Its a horrible experience & I feel great sympathy for those people.I can remember taking everything upstairs that could be taken & moving the horses to higher ground.I love the ocean,but really prefer it to stay where it belongs & when my non-swimmer mother heard our local sea wall was to be raised,she was one darned happy lady!RIP to those who didn't make it.
I remember the Marchioness disaster and the disgustingly unsympathetic press coverage at the time. It was a terrible incident - I can't imagine how frightening it must have been.
i really enjoyed this episode. Thankyou for uploading and like everyone else here I had no idea of the flood. Yet clearly remember the terrible Marchioness disaster, the way the inquest and general aftermath was dealt with was a travesty of maritime justice.Those poor victims and the dreadful tabloid press, unforgettable for all the wrong reasons
Though I'm German but curious about English history , found this video very interesting and well done! Thank you very much for uploading this masterpiece!
@@alex-E7WHU Yes , my daughter gave me so much presents , I was speechless. Perhaps yo know that in Germany people celebrating Jesus'birthday on Christmas Eve with the family , presents and a good meal. In the U.K. and USA the 25th is the great day , that is different to Germany. Wish you a Happy New Year.
Since the first Lockdown began I have watched every single video on your channel. I love all of them, you have a real talent for producing these kinds of documentary, and your voice is just perfect for them too. The 42 minutes of this video seemed to fly past in an instant. Yours is the only channel on TH-cam that I require a notification for, as I can't wait for the next vid. Keep it up mate!
Great video CW. My Father (A jazz musician) was booked to play on the Marchioness on that fated day, as tradition would have it, the bass player was late and they got cancelled.
Finally!! I've been looking for this channel forever!! Well, not this exact channel, but a crime channel that's interesting with narration that is informative & relaxing that I can watch in the morning, in the afternoon, after work, or at night when I'm trying to fall asleep. It's the perfect channel!!
Yeah they say when the Romans first got there at the site where they would build Londinium they said the Thames River was like this large marshy plain where multiple smaller rivers flowed into it because the River Thames is a tidal river.
@@grapeshot Well yeah, they traded right on up into Scandinavia, and down the West Coast of Africa for sure. Maybe further. The only buildings or permanent settlements up the Thames during that period though (apart from docking infrastructure) seem to have been Temples to various Mediterranean/Greek/Egyptian Gods, probably to cater to established trading partners and the deific diversity among their crews. There were Temples to Apollo, Poseidon, Ahura Mazda, Dagon, Ra, Osirus, all the big hitters. Funnily, there were many Temples to Thoth, but rather than in his more common Ibis headed aspect, he was always depicted as Baboon headed, which was quite rare, even in Egypt after around 1500 bc. There's an interesting theory around that many of the pre-Roman Temples here were representative of, and maintained by the many mystery traditions that sprang up around these trade routes over the centuries, but I don't know how solid that is. There were certainly colleges of learned scholarly types here way before the Celts started turning up here around 500 bc, and they were certainly using the same solar calendar that the Sumerians were. History likes us to think that the Romans brought brought the first real civilisation to Britain, but that's mostly bullshit. Those long, straight roads, with their temples and trading posts, the ports on the Thames, the Severn, the Fal and the Tamar, all here waaaaay before Caesar arrived. The Cult of Mithra is associated with (particularly) the Roman Army, but there were *caves* here serving as Mithraic temples from the times of the Punic Wars. All that well before Caesar. Recently, Matrilinear DNA has proven that before Rome was even a thing, there was a major influx of DNA from where Turkey/Syria shared coastal territories, marked by the combinant gene for ginger hair and green eyes that goes right back to the first Minoans. Nowadays, we're finding more and more evidence suggesting there were already sophisticated international communication networks established, from Britain that dated back well before the Bronze age collapse, particularly concerned with mining and processing metals. (mostly tin, lead and gold) For centuries before the BAC, I think Cornwall was one of the only sources of tin pure enough to make decent bronze. So . . . . Romanes Eunt Domus. 'People called Romanes they go the house'? etc.
I love your channel and I've been binging for the past week. Your fact-based detailed accounts remind me so much of The Wisconsin Death Trip, and I'm 100% here for it. Also love the longer duration of this video. Hope you go for more >30 min videos in the future. This one is definitely a treat, and I look forward to more in this vein.
Im just getting into this channel and i like what ive been listening to so far - excellent narration, straight facts, good pacing and across different time periods. I look forward to listening to other videos on the channel. I really dig the "dark tales of..." segment. Cheers from the Chicago suburbs
I was questioned by the police as a potential witness in the Clare Woolerton murder at the time. I was a bus driver back then, on route 140, which went through Northolt to Heathrow. All the crews who were working that night were interviewed but no one had seen anything. Very sad case.
Just as a point of interest, In the Marlowe Lock story, it was mentioned that a vial of mint was found on the body. It is advised that you don't take large doses of peppermint whilst pregnant, although small doses can help settle the stomach. More sinisterly, pennyroyal oil looks, smells and tastes a lot like spearmint and was commonly used as an emmenagogue or abortifacient, it also causes liver damage. It could be suggested that the lady went to visit her sister for advice, but also had a back-up plan. side effects include nausea, abdominal pain and dizziness. Perhaps, not finding her sister home, she took her 'peppermint' and, suffering these side effects stumbled into the water on the way back to the station>
Out of the edge of the seat recollections of the skeleton and its secrets, hearing the name "Chubb" relating to a set of keys was the thing that made me most alert and surprised 😂
My Grandparents lived at 8 Ranelagh Gardens and they told me of the drowning of two servant girls that lived in the house. It was a lovely house that sat beside the Thames by Putney Bridge. I remember the garden sloping down to the lower ground floor so I can only imagine that’s where the drowning took place many years before.
Excellent documentary. Thank you for this. The understated presentation, low on drama with a concise and measured delivery appears to be in short supply these days. You've got formula spot on, please don't be tempted to change it.
When I was 17. I went to the Auckland Domain. There are three statues - I've got goosebumps writing this.. Everyone called them the three witches, they weren't(folklore). It's two women, one on the left and one on the right and a male in the middle. The woman on the right... Me and my friend saw tears from her eyes(a statue).. There was no rain, no water around. There was absolutely nothing around regarding water. I'm 35 now and sit here wondering.. Why was she crying?
This was brilliant. Great work. Respect from 🇨🇦. I've been to the Thames in London and it certainly does have an erie existence to it. So much history.
@@CuriousWorldProductions If you're looking for some from Canada, I'm from the city of the Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo murders. That pissed us off pretty bad. Then there's the Luka Magnotta one. Both of these have been done many times before on other channels and documentaries, they're just the first off the top of my head because they resonate a little too close to home. Anyways thanks for all of your hard work my friend. Best regards.
Very well done. The folks at Curious World definitely have the skills to work in professional documentary production! The research, the writing, the video clips editing, and the narration are of the highest caliber! If you guys have the inclination to word for a studio or production company you should apply and offer your videos as your portfolio!
This was the first of your videos that I have seen and subscribed immediately. Well researched, presented and supported with good photographs. Great job.
I thought at the time of the incident that removing the hands was very odd and creepy. Why could the finger prints not be taken while the hands were attached?
You deserve more subscribers, your content is superb! Got me hooked 😍 I hope you'll never give up in doing this & just know that you'll always have my support 💪🏻❤️
This was absolutely fascinating! I had no idea about any of this history of the River Thames. Thank you and your presentation was very informative that I am now a new subscriber.
Glad to see you upload again, CW, and a nice long video at that! Great stories, all of them. Claire and I were the same age. Somehow that makes her story all the more sad. I look forward to learning about the Princess Alice. Take care!
Excellent history lesson, thank❤️you! 👍🏻😃I am impressed that you clearly listed your resources for each story, which helps alot if viewers would like to read these articles too.🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦
I love your channel! If I may make a request...? More paranormal stories ☺️ they’re my favourite and your voice makes the stories just so wonderful to enjoy at night 💙
This was absolutely brilliant. It was so interesting I was hooked. I really appreciate your voice. You speak well & it’s so rare these days to listen to someone who can speak properly. I’m a new subscriber as I am so interested in hearing more stories. Thank you.
This was a great video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I knew none of the stories beforehand. I love the narration and story telling. I hope you make more of these longer videos, they really are a pleasure to watch.
According to the Rules of the Road, an overtaking vessel must give way to a vessel being overtaken and must not pass until it is safe to do so and then must pass well clear. It seems to me that the fault lay with the skipper of the Bowbelle, especially if a load of sand in her bows was preventing the maintenance of an effective lookout. The Marchioness, being the stand-on vessel, was obligated to maintain her course and speed unless action was required to avoid collision. Based on the diagram shown, the Marchioness did not have many options regarding evasive action.
Quite right. Though as you well know, the vessel having the right of way has a responsibility to avoid a collision in the event that a conflict is imminent. The captain of the Bow Belle should have placed a lookout at the bow of the vessel and ensured there was some form of communication with the wheelhouse. Having made the trip a number of times along the Thames from Teddington out into the North Sea I know only too well how difficult it is to assimilate all that is visible against city lights in the dark hours.
@@jamesgraham6122 Basically, the Marchioness was hove down. As you say, she had very limited scope for evasive action, more like a hedgehog on the road.The Bowbelle had made the trip many times and like so many cases in which repetition occurs, the crew seemed to have become habitually complacent. That said, these dredgings were not spontaneous events. The skipper of the Marchioness should've known of the Bowbelle's regular business and made inquiries into projected large river vessel timetables that night. It's certainly something I would've done. He must surely have known that in an emergency, many of his passengers might be in no fit state to respond with alacrity. My own experience is that lots of booze and fast-flowing deep water make a dire combination...
Again, my dude, you've managed to mash together a very interesting and unique narrative; I don't know if it's because I'm from the US, but I feel like all of these cases are either not covered by other people or covered differently. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos immensely.
Thanks a lot for the support. I tend to look at historical documents and spend money on very old books and articles. Only a few of the stories I cover are taken solely from the internet. I'm not bragging in any way, but I think this is where the difference lies.
The cemetery where my mum and dad are buried has a young victim from Marchioness Disaster buried there...Her grave is so poignant. Francesca Dallaglio.
@@susannahhunt100 It must still be so painful for the Family. My Stepmum and I always give Francesca a thought when we walk past her Memorial. A Ballet Dancer🩰
I was on the Marchioness exactly one week before, and with a party with friends and neighbours. Nearly all of us completely pissed, a band playing so you couldn't hear anything inside, and a couple of drunken girls nearly fell off the back of the boat. It was bad enough without the awful fact of the defilement of their bodies - for the convenience of the investigators, nothing else. This sordid detail gives me the horrors every time I'm reminded of it.
Some of you may be wondering why I haven't included the deadliest Thames disaster ever. I'm covering that in a future video.
Okay
The Silvertown explosion at the Brunner Mond works, by any chance?
@@canturgan That's literally in the video...
The sinking of the SS Princess Alice. A tragedy that for once warrants the description as such.
So we can look forward to a video about the Princess Alice Disaster from 1878? ;)
Excellent. No sensationalism, or flim-flam, just the facts. Thank you.
Flim-Flam,I love that term and flippityjibbet 🤷♀️
Exactly. That's with this channel is 10,000 times better than other well-produced channels like Bedtime Stories. No insulting the intelligence with absurdity; just the genuine, chilling, eerie truth.
Is flimflam a UK term? A few English mates of mine say that and, until you, had never asked where it came from, but I dig it.
@@DreamsAreLies it is an English term,it means rubbish (trash),lies,a con. Ya get the idea love.
@@DreamsAreLies - I'm sure it's English. It was, however, famously used in a speech by Malcolm X:
"There'll be no skullduggery, no flim-flam, no controlled show..."
For any viewers who visit England, the Foundling Museum holds many a tragic tale of women who ended up in the Thames. Many women’s stories of how they became pregnant and so misfortunate that they had to prove themselves to be allowed to leave their babies there, if rejected threw themselves in or sometimes were discarded there. As you tour the museum the stories are whispered through the sound system, which is even more heartbreaking. It was tough times for unmarried women who fell pregnant.
wish all documentaries were like this, really interesting. Its a breath of fresh air when there is no over dramatization, which is so prevalent in a lot of other documentaries. well done..
Thank you for your respectful telling of these incidents.
My own great great something grandpa escaped hanging at Execution Dock, along with the surviving crew members of the smuggling ship after a sea battle during which they killed at least one Excise man before surrendering. The entire crew refused to speak a word of English during the trial and claimed to be Dutch. They insisted on having a translator present, and they actually got away with it. The story has been told ever since in my family.
Every TH-cam video there’s someone who had a grandpa or uncle there man stop
People are killed suddenlij they are still there
I have hearf thema footsteps
@@sn3akydna314 it's his story his comment you need to stop.
@@mrliberty8468 More than likely, it's a bullshit story. Smh. Get a grip. Lmfao
This video was beyond interesting - thanks for all these stories I’ve never heard. More dark British history, please!
The narrator is excellent and the tales, very interesting.
Agreed, and his research seems very thorough!
i found his voice a little boring to be honest. excellent stories though
@@lushkarma2012 Calm British voice, that can be fully understood, yes not like Stephen Fry's excellent voice but it's ok, also certainly not a loud fast, no pause American voice, recently I had to decrease 2 American uploads to .75 speed as they spoke too fast with no pausing.
Hard the
Flood was crazy, what a horrendous story about those four poor little girls. RIP Doris and her sisters.
In the documentary "Eastern Promises" I saw how two Russian models threw old mannikens into the river because they were too stiff to be used in a store front!
This is a first-class documentary so well compiled. Thank you.
Thanks, Robert.
Swimming why not ?
Swimmingmate ,B5titts no idea
You have a great eye for interesting content and a wonderful voice in which to deliver it. My only complaint is I want more, more, more! Sorry, I got a bit carried away! Not to mention greedy! And selfish! Actually, this is all your fault! You’re the one that’s hooked me!
😅 I'm going as fast as I can.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I love your videos. It is evident by the rhythm of your narration just how much effort you put in. It must take a long time to get the facts straight and tell the story without it ever sounding salacious. Great work.
Brilliant we'll put together and no background music that drowns out everything
FORTY TWO MINUTES!!
BRILLIANT!!
This has made my night!
Ian, always a pleasure. I hope everyone likes it... and that I've got all my facts right.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I'm pretty sure that you have.
An excellent upload - just what we've grown to expect from Curious World.
I hope that life is treating you well, and that you and your loved ones are staying safe.
Take care ✌️
I'm crying for all the loss. Curious World is some of THE BEST content available on YT. God rest the first gentleman found at Waterloo Bridge and his family 🥺
I have always wondered why no one ever did any video's on bodies found in the Thames, except for you. This is such a fascinating area for videos, I hope you do more! I grew up on the Mississippi and it also has a lot of Bodies in it.
As you can imagine, there are many many more. I was tempted to cover other historical cases, but it would have got repetitive.
@@CuriousWorldProductions Well you can do them like you do your various places videos, well spaced out.
Although you probably know what is best for you and your channel. I really enjoyed this video.
@@08andylee Yep, no doubt they'll appear in future videos under other relevant titles.
Jeff Buckley died in The Mississippi.
@@CrazyInsanelikeafox yes. Tragic. He was extremely talented
Just finished a 12 hour shift in a Nursing Home , what a treat to view a Curious World video 👍❤️ Contracted the Covid thingie and had to self isolate for 10 days 😶 Which wasn't fun 😶 Happy to be back at work now ! Thank You for the video CW 👍
Glad to hear you're over the Covid, Fruitbat.
Glad you are recovering from covid. I wish you the best of health 💐❤️
Glad you are well
@99fruitbat .... remember to get plenty of rest while you're recovering 🚑
I returned back to London after decades away and at night walked over Waterloo Bridge and viewed the dark waters of the river. I felt strange and fearful of the river. I must admit I had been working on Southwark bridge earlier that day and the news of the disco boat was about the last time I worked near the river. It is a minute to cross by road transport, but when you are on a small boat that river is very big and fast. It gives me chills being near it at night.
25:04 Epilepsy in NO WAY makes you commit murder. At worst you have uncontrollable spasms (grand mal), at the very least you go into a staring daze (petit mal). It certainly doesn't make you do things you don't want to do like murdering someone.
Certain seizures can make for some messy behaviours... murder isn't one. Eloping, eating uncontrolled, verbal abuse or kicking off (generally in confusion) etc are indeed normal post tonic clonic.
Epilepsy's a lot more complex than that- but people with it are NOT deranged murderers either. My ex had medication-resistant epilepsy, & he had "mixed" seizures, sometimes for many hours- sometimes they included grand mal (tonic-clonic) & petit mal (absence) episodes, but he also went into a state where he was "conscious" & active but couldn't understand what was going on, & he DEFINITELY did things he didn't want to do, including being violent.
Plus the fact that he gave a completely different story to the police kind of discredited that excuse.
Correct
There was so much stigma surrounding epilepsy back then
My great grandfather was found dead in the river Thames at Kew in 1894! The old newspaper article gave no further details & my grandma was just a girl when it happened.
A fascinating programme, I really enjoyed it. As a point of interest, the Thames Flood disaster was covered by the late Hugh Redwood, who wrote for the Evening Standard. Anyway, it marked a turning point in his life, as he got involved in helping the Salvation Army Slums Division in their rescue work that night, and eventually to a series of books about their work. The flood is covered in the book "God in the Slums", and includes a poignant detail - he found a waterlogged school exercise book in which a child had written "The river is called Father Thames, because it is so good to us...."
Back in the early 1960s my dad was sitting on the river bank at Kingston upon Thames with his mate doing a bit of fishing, his favourite pastime. What he hadn`t bargained for was when he fished a young boy out of the water that he described as "dead as mutton". I never learnt any further details.
I love your Mini!
No
Did he not go to the police?
@@michellekourea275 Naturally. You can`t go finding dead bodies and not reporting it.
Yank here. I hadn't heard of any of these, the flooding incident was especially heartbreaking 💔
I wondered where my American friends had got to.
@@CuriousWorldProductions We're here.
How terrible to lose four children like that poor family. I hope they managed to come to terms with it afterwards.
@@leedsman54 I'm not sure you could. I think that'd be all she wrote for me.
@@CuriousWorldProductions Yank fan here too! First generation, parents came here from England.
Months ago I saw on Pinterest some photographs from that flooding in the 1920s. Little did I know people died because of it. Rest in peace to those people who lost their lives.
One of the most interesting and well put-together videos on youtube. Also, the most original content, and not the same case', just re-done/re-read/regurgitated by different youtube presenters/channels. THIS is absolutely one of the best channels on youtube, and I look forward to every video!
"I though if I acted like a psychopath you'd think that it was a psychopath and not lovely me..."
One of the strangest explanations I've heard from a murderer. I heard it again last week on another documentary. I forget which one.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I've never heard anything like it myself - I'm amazed that his lawyer went along with such a defence.
It shows a shockingly callous disregard for the victims, and of course their respective friends and families.
Not only having to listen to this lowlife describe how he'd killed their daughter/sister, but to then hear him attempt to justify the awful mutilation with one of the strangest reasonings I've ever heard.
Clearly a very dangerous man - I'd be surprised if he doesn't have more victims.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 That's a very good point, regarding more victims.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 He was quite possibly a narcissist as well as a very violent man. They think they are above the law and have superficial charm and are fantastic liars. Probably thought he could get away with lying which had more than likely worked for him throughout his life up to that point. Just my theory.
I once told an actor, who did a skit as a killer, that he played it too crazy.
When I watch who-do-it shows, I always guess the killer. The actor always gives it away.
What a solid range of tales from the Thames. Bravo. Well-presented and chosen with an eye toward variety and the promised darkness.
Love your way of writing, straight to the point and no sensationalism
I have been through three floods,seawater & river.Its a horrible experience & I feel great sympathy for those people.I can remember taking everything upstairs that could be taken & moving the horses to higher ground.I love the ocean,but really prefer it to stay where it belongs & when my non-swimmer mother heard our local sea wall was to be raised,she was one darned happy lady!RIP to those who didn't make it.
I remember the Marchioness disaster and the disgustingly unsympathetic press coverage at the time.
It was a terrible incident - I can't imagine how frightening it must have been.
Hands down, one of the BEST channels on TH-cam
Always appreciate the care and time you put into these videos.
i really enjoyed this episode. Thankyou for uploading and like everyone else here I had no idea of the flood. Yet clearly remember the terrible Marchioness disaster, the way the inquest and general aftermath was dealt with was a travesty of maritime justice.Those poor victims and the dreadful tabloid press, unforgettable for all the wrong reasons
As a Londoner I found your video to be very interesting. Please keep the great Vids coming!
Though I'm German but curious about English history , found this video very interesting and well done! Thank you very much for uploading this masterpiece!
Hope you had a lovely Christmas Sabine.☃️🌲🧑🎄
@@alex-E7WHU Yes , my daughter gave me so much presents , I was speechless. Perhaps yo know that in Germany people celebrating Jesus'birthday on Christmas Eve with the family , presents and a good meal. In the U.K. and USA the 25th is the great day , that is different to Germany. Wish you a Happy New Year.
Since the first Lockdown began I have watched every single video on your channel. I love all of them, you have a real talent for producing these kinds of documentary, and your voice is just perfect for them too. The 42 minutes of this video seemed to fly past in an instant. Yours is the only channel on TH-cam that I require a notification for, as I can't wait for the next vid. Keep it up mate!
Great video CW. My Father (A jazz musician) was booked to play on the Marchioness on that fated day, as tradition would have it, the bass player was late and they got cancelled.
Finally!! I've been looking for this channel forever!! Well, not this exact channel, but a crime channel that's interesting with narration that is informative & relaxing that I can watch in the morning, in the afternoon, after work, or at night when I'm trying to fall asleep. It's the perfect channel!!
Very precise, well audited and factual no nonesense. Thank you 😊
Yeah they say when the Romans first got there at the site where they would build Londinium they said the Thames River was like this large marshy plain where multiple smaller rivers flowed into it because the River Thames is a tidal river.
Londiniums history is interesting
There was already a thriving port there, established by the Phoenicians a thousand years before the Romans got here.
@@nodiggity9472 that's the first I've ever heard of the Phoenicians making it all to the way to the British Isles. Besides trade.
@@grapeshot Well yeah, they traded right on up into Scandinavia, and down the West Coast of Africa for sure. Maybe further. The only buildings or permanent settlements up the Thames during that period though (apart from docking infrastructure) seem to have been Temples to various Mediterranean/Greek/Egyptian Gods, probably to cater to established trading partners and the deific diversity among their crews. There were Temples to Apollo, Poseidon, Ahura Mazda, Dagon, Ra, Osirus, all the big hitters.
Funnily, there were many Temples to Thoth, but rather than in his more common Ibis headed aspect, he was always depicted as Baboon headed, which was quite rare, even in Egypt after around 1500 bc. There's an interesting theory around that many of the pre-Roman Temples here were representative of, and maintained by the many mystery traditions that sprang up around these trade routes over the centuries, but I don't know how solid that is. There were certainly colleges of learned scholarly types here way before the Celts started turning up here around 500 bc, and they were certainly using the same solar calendar that the Sumerians were.
History likes us to think that the Romans brought brought the first real civilisation to Britain, but that's mostly bullshit. Those long, straight roads, with their temples and trading posts, the ports on the Thames, the Severn, the Fal and the Tamar, all here waaaaay before Caesar arrived. The Cult of Mithra is associated with (particularly) the Roman Army, but there were *caves* here serving as Mithraic temples from the times of the Punic Wars. All that well before Caesar.
Recently, Matrilinear DNA has proven that before Rome was even a thing, there was a major influx of DNA from where Turkey/Syria shared coastal territories, marked by the combinant gene for ginger hair and green eyes that goes right back to the first Minoans.
Nowadays, we're finding more and more evidence suggesting there were already sophisticated international communication networks established, from Britain that dated back well before the Bronze age collapse, particularly concerned with mining and processing metals. (mostly tin, lead and gold) For centuries before the BAC, I think Cornwall was one of the only sources of tin pure enough to make decent bronze. So . . . . Romanes Eunt Domus.
'People called Romanes they go the house'? etc.
@@nodiggity9472 this wouldn't be some kind of conspiracy theory would it.
This was a very interesting video with lots of history. I love these kinds of videos. Thanks CW. Greetings from Norway 🤗🤗
Oh cool. My next video is based in Scandinavia.
@@CuriousWorldProductions That's so cool. Can't wait to see the video 😃
Greetings to you!
Greetings form England, thanks to your (Norse) and (Dane) raiders we have my fave city..... York, thank you Vikings.
@@leemarples1643 Hi Lee. Yes York is a great city. I have visited once but really want to go back 😃. So much history and things to see.
Another great episode. A hearty 42 minutes at that. I always look forward to your content. Thank-you. Keep up the good work!
Appreciate it, Rob. Thanks.
I always look forward a curious world upload!! Always brilliantly researched, produced and narrated 😁
I love your channel and I've been binging for the past week. Your fact-based detailed accounts remind me so much of The Wisconsin Death Trip, and I'm 100% here for it. Also love the longer duration of this video. Hope you go for more >30 min videos in the future. This one is definitely a treat, and I look forward to more in this vein.
Im just getting into this channel and i like what ive been listening to so far - excellent narration, straight facts, good pacing and across different time periods. I look forward to listening to other videos on the channel. I really dig the "dark tales of..." segment.
Cheers from the Chicago suburbs
I was questioned by the police as a potential witness in the Clare Woolerton murder at the time. I was a bus driver back then, on route 140, which went through Northolt to Heathrow. All the crews who were working that night were interviewed but no one had seen anything. Very sad case.
Just as a point of interest, In the Marlowe Lock story, it was mentioned that a vial of mint was found on the body. It is advised that you don't take large doses of peppermint whilst pregnant, although small doses can help settle the stomach. More sinisterly, pennyroyal oil looks, smells and tastes a lot like spearmint and was commonly used as an emmenagogue or abortifacient, it also causes liver damage. It could be suggested that the lady went to visit her sister for advice, but also had a back-up plan. side effects include nausea, abdominal pain and dizziness. Perhaps, not finding her sister home, she took her 'peppermint' and, suffering these side effects stumbled into the water on the way back to the station>
Yes, this is an interesting point that has been raised and is probably central to the story, in fact.
Out of the edge of the seat recollections of the skeleton and its secrets, hearing the name "Chubb" relating to a set of keys was the thing that made me most alert and surprised 😂
Having lived in the Uk as a Yank in the80’s I truly enjoyed this video regarding the Thames. Very interesting and great presentation TY😀
Nice, always brings a smile when Curious uploads a new video :)
Interesting & I'm sure never ending stories about this river & river town; enjoyed your presentation of it👍👍👍
My Grandparents lived at 8 Ranelagh Gardens and they told me of the drowning of two servant girls that lived in the house.
It was a lovely house that sat beside the Thames by Putney Bridge.
I remember the garden sloping down to the lower ground floor so I can only imagine that’s where the drowning took place many years before.
I've always lived near The Thames!! ....I am right on The Thames Estuary.....The history goes Back over a Thousand years....I love it 😀
I love your documentaries, keep them coming I’ve seen all of them and keep checking for new ones and excellently narrated by the way
Excellent documentary. Thank you for this. The understated presentation, low on drama with a concise and measured delivery appears to be in short supply these days. You've got formula spot on, please don't be tempted to change it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bizarre that someone wouldn’t know whether their husband had false teeth or not 🤔
A good wife wouldn't know because she's busy in the kitchen.
@@ClickClack_Bam ooohh they gonna come for you😂. I think it’s a hilarious comment ...... Be strong kidda be strong 💪
It's unbecoming of a Lady to inquire into the private affairs of her husband.
maybe they weren't that close
He kept his chompers closed as she said.
What s tragic set of stories. Thank you for making this video. It keeps their memories alive.
Excellent! Thanks CW. Glad I'm getting your notifications again💜🙏💔
When I was 17. I went to the Auckland Domain. There are three statues - I've got goosebumps writing this.. Everyone called them the three witches, they weren't(folklore). It's two women, one on the left and one on the right and a male in the middle. The woman on the right... Me and my friend saw tears from her eyes(a statue).. There was no rain, no water around. There was absolutely nothing around regarding water.
I'm 35 now and sit here wondering.. Why was she crying?
You're back, Curious World! Hurray!
I never left.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I'm very glad!
Very interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever heard about the flood before.
Your voice is incredibly soothing. Thank you for these videos.
This was brilliant. Great work. Respect from 🇨🇦. I've been to the Thames in London and it certainly does have an erie existence to it. So much history.
Thanks for watching. I'll have some tales from Canada this year. Any recommendations, please email me via the email on my channel art.
@@CuriousWorldProductions Sounds good brother. I watch a lot of this stuff, glad I came across your channel. Definitely a sub and likes from me.
@@benisaten I appreciate it, Ben.
@@CuriousWorldProductions If you're looking for some from Canada, I'm from the city of the Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo murders. That pissed us off pretty bad. Then there's the Luka Magnotta one. Both of these have been done many times before on other channels and documentaries, they're just the first off the top of my head because they resonate a little too close to home. Anyways thanks for all of your hard work my friend. Best regards.
You put so much effort into these videos, the result is excellent. Thank you
Very well done. The folks at Curious World definitely have the skills to work in professional documentary production! The research, the writing, the video clips editing, and the narration are of the highest caliber! If you guys have the inclination to word for a studio or production company you should apply and offer your videos as your portfolio!
Thanks Evan, if anyone knows of such a position, I'd be interested in the research side.
All so sad. But well narrated. Thank you.
This was the first of your videos that I have seen and subscribed immediately. Well researched, presented and supported with good photographs. Great job.
Oh, sorry. Here is your loved one's hands...
Ya eh? That's what I thought. "Here's those hands back...Sorry 'bout that"...🤯
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I thought at the time of the incident that removing the hands was very odd and creepy. Why could the finger prints not be taken while the hands were attached?
You deserve more subscribers, your content is superb! Got me hooked 😍 I hope you'll never give up in doing this & just know that you'll always have my support 💪🏻❤️
I appreciate it, Shaz. Thanks.
@@CuriousWorldProductions you're most welcome ❤️ keep it up 👏🏻
Excellent! Listening through headphones at work. Really enjoyed your readings
This was absolutely fascinating! I had no idea about any of this history of the River Thames. Thank you and your presentation was very informative that I am now a new subscriber.
Fascinating and sad. Extremely well researched.
Glad to see you upload again, CW, and a nice long video at that! Great stories, all of them. Claire and I were the same age. Somehow that makes her story all the more sad.
I look forward to learning about the Princess Alice. Take care!
love the longer episode, great content as always
Excellent history lesson, thank❤️you! 👍🏻😃I am impressed that you clearly listed your resources for each story, which helps alot if viewers would like to read these articles too.🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦
I love your channel! If I may make a request...? More paranormal stories ☺️ they’re my favourite and your voice makes the stories just so wonderful to enjoy at night 💙
This was absolutely brilliant. It was so interesting I was hooked. I really appreciate your voice. You speak well & it’s so rare these days to listen to someone who can speak properly. I’m a new subscriber as I am so interested in hearing more stories. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words. I hope you find something else you like on the channel.
Curious World is the Best!
Well paced and professionally delivered. Top stuff Curious World.
Great video as always. Thank you!
Thanks, Philipp. If anyone is still wondering, this is the guy whose music appeared on my Ratcliffe Highway Murders video.
This was a great video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I knew none of the stories beforehand. I love the narration and story telling. I hope you make more of these longer videos, they really are a pleasure to watch.
According to the Rules of the Road, an overtaking vessel must give way to a vessel being overtaken and must not pass until it is safe to do so and then must pass well clear. It seems to me that the fault lay with the skipper of the Bowbelle, especially if a load of sand in her bows was preventing the maintenance of an effective lookout. The Marchioness, being the stand-on vessel, was obligated to maintain her course and speed unless action was required to avoid collision.
Based on the diagram shown, the Marchioness did not have many options regarding evasive action.
Quite right. Though as you well know, the vessel having the right of way has a responsibility to avoid a collision in the event that a conflict is imminent. The captain of the Bow Belle should have placed a lookout at the bow of the vessel and ensured there was some form of communication with the wheelhouse. Having made the trip a number of times along the Thames from Teddington out into the North Sea I know only too well how difficult it is to assimilate all that is visible against city lights in the dark hours.
@@jamesgraham6122 Basically, the Marchioness was hove down. As you say, she had very limited scope for evasive action, more like a hedgehog on the road.The Bowbelle had made the trip many times and like so many cases in which repetition occurs, the crew seemed to have become habitually complacent. That said, these dredgings were not spontaneous events. The skipper of the Marchioness should've known of the Bowbelle's regular business and made inquiries into projected large river vessel timetables that night. It's certainly something I would've done. He must surely have known that in an emergency, many of his passengers might be in no fit state to respond with alacrity. My own experience is that lots of booze and fast-flowing deep water make a dire combination...
Great voice and cadence! Scribed. Great job. Great subjects. Thank you.. From just some really old people in south Carolina!
Love the pencil case and samurai watercolor of the Cyprus brig sail ship!
The river as such a fascinating history and this is just scratching the surface. Nice video.
Very interesting! 40 minutes well spent.
Brilliant as always my friend, well done.
Again, my dude, you've managed to mash together a very interesting and unique narrative; I don't know if it's because I'm from the US, but I feel like all of these cases are either not covered by other people or covered differently. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos immensely.
Thanks a lot for the support. I tend to look at historical documents and spend money on very old books and articles. Only a few of the stories I cover are taken solely from the internet. I'm not bragging in any way, but I think this is where the difference lies.
The cemetery where my mum and dad are buried has a young victim from Marchioness Disaster buried there...Her grave is so poignant. Francesca Dallaglio.
That disaster was horrifying. I remember it well. The missing hands too.
Francesca is the sister of my friend Lawrence the ex. Rugby International.
@@susannahhunt100 It must still be so painful for the Family. My Stepmum and I always give Francesca a thought when we walk past her Memorial. A Ballet Dancer🩰
@@pommiebears Yes, That was so disrespectful and awful to remove hands from the victims.
Extremely well researched, and the relaxing narration nearly lulled me to sleep with my thumb in my mouth.
That's funny. Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍
Thank you for uploading not only interesting but the voice over was clear without “armature dramatics”
Great to see a new video. Missed your amazing content!!
William Kidd Britain’s version of America’s ‘Billy the Kid’. Lol
It's ironic the British government prosecuted piracy when to good were headed home but funded piracy on the high seas as a source of revenue
New subscriber here. No idea how I never found you before. Great content mate. Hammersmith murders was very good, as was this one.
Thanks, Randy. I enjoyed covering the Nudes Murders. Almost 3 years ago now!
I remember the Marchionesse disaster but i had no idea they had cut off their hands, how barbaric and no real justice for the families and victims
Disgusting what they did DNA was not being used I gather for finger prints I don't see how either.poor families to be told that
I was on the Marchioness exactly one week before, and with a party with friends and neighbours. Nearly all of us completely pissed, a band playing so you couldn't hear anything inside, and a couple of drunken girls nearly fell off the back of the boat.
It was bad enough without the awful fact of the defilement of their bodies - for the convenience of the investigators, nothing else.
This sordid detail gives me the horrors every time I'm reminded of it.
Just stumbled upon this and really enjoyed it! Make more!! :) Thank you for this!
Im absolutely in love with ur channel. PLEEEEEASE keep the videos coming.
Best narration so far on TH-cam. And i've listened to hundreds....
A lot of hard work has gone into this. Excellent video!
How fitting since I'm currently reading Once Upon a River by Diane Setterfield.
Thank you for another excellent video...and 42 minutes as well!!!