The Text of Marcion's Gospel: Can It Be Reconstructed? | Dr. Dieter Roth

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  • @History-Valley
    @History-Valley  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Get Dieter Roth's book! ➡📚amzn.to/3WqFcon

  • @FlaviusBrosephus
    @FlaviusBrosephus 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Wow! The caliber of your guests are super impressive. Dr. Roth is a big deal in this space! Well done 👏🏼

  • @ParStenberg
    @ParStenberg 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Longed for you to have him on! Awesome!

  • @mcosu1
    @mcosu1 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You asked all of the most important questions and he gave great answers!

  • @js1423
    @js1423 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Keep up the good work!

  • @robyn874
    @robyn874 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another great show 😊 Jacob you always manage to put forward well thought out questions to your guests. Drawing out informative answers. I'm forever learning, Thankyou

  • @koreyoneal2623
    @koreyoneal2623 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Marcion wasn't the first to come up with a gospel , he was just the first one to put Christian writings together into a canon

    • @dunk_law
      @dunk_law 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      And your evidence for that is?

    • @tsemayekekema2918
      @tsemayekekema2918 24 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@dunk_lawThe fact that it will have been more sensible to create just only one Diatessaron-like Gospel & falsely attribute it to Peter or James-instead of having 3 synoptics Gospels known as having SUB-apostolic authors such as Mark & Luke, and one attributed to Matthew whom we know for a fact authored a Semitic-Language Gospel that was translated into Greek, and therefore, of whom a Greek version of his Gospel served as a source for our canonical "Matthew"

  • @milkydud
    @milkydud 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Finally! Thanks jacob

  • @patrickmcnamara7252
    @patrickmcnamara7252 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love ur show! Unfortunately ... this one, audio? However, I will catch the next one. PeaceMac

  • @IAEMThatIAEM
    @IAEMThatIAEM 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    without actual documents, idk how these reconstructions are anything more than model theory

  • @afwalker1921
    @afwalker1921 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    At 54:04, proof that Jacob is wearing pants, for once! Jacob, I applaud your attempts at conformity!!!

  • @ambrosemalone1151
    @ambrosemalone1151 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video. Dr. Roth is both erudite and elocuent. Marcion without a doubt was a major player. If he were not there would not be so many Christians queueing up to denounce him. Also I believe that without him there would be no Paul as he had all the letters and made them widely known through his followers.

  • @tookie36
    @tookie36 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hans Niemann vibes 😊
    Also great video

  • @clearskybluewaters
    @clearskybluewaters 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really wish Jacob wouldve at least asked him to date the gospels if they are first century or 2nd century

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am still waiting for ANY evidence for ANY of the gospels before the mid second century?

    • @tsemayekekema2918
      @tsemayekekema2918 22 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

      The fact that there are 3 synoptics & one Johannine gospels when just one merged single gospel would have been far more sensible as a response to Marcion

  • @elpidiogonzalez8193
    @elpidiogonzalez8193 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mark and Matthew have hard sayings of Jesus missing in Luke like the Syrophoenician woman who Jesus rejects at first and refers to her people as dogs. That being the case, Marcion edited that out and some Yahwistic passages about "evil god". His editing is our Luke today.He didn't see the many Judahite deities like El, Baal,Adonay fused with Yahweh unfortunately.

  • @irreview
    @irreview 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please buy a lavalier mic so you can wire it up to your guests to improve audio. We can hear him but you're officially a big content creator now, you need to hire an audio/visual assistant

  • @ericdanielski4802
    @ericdanielski4802 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Maybe.

  • @milkydud
    @milkydud 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I wish I was live i would have asked him if the varient n jude 5 ie jesus or god christ or lord *see vs jude 4* may be a marcionite rebuttal to his antithesis.

  • @lukeouthwaite9999
    @lukeouthwaite9999 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why don't they focus on the Ebionite gospel?

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 36 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Morrissey College of Arts and Sciences - "The Department’s five primary areas of research include biblical studies, comparative theology, history of Christianity, >>>systematic theology

    • @tsemayekekema2918
      @tsemayekekema2918 21 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Focus on his arguments - not incompetent ad homimems

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Epiphanius is too late to matter. This is Rome church VS the rest.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chapel hill, hmmm.

    • @milkydud
      @milkydud 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Also Reformed Theological Seminary if im not mistaken
      I think he is a former student of Michael J Kruger, former undergrad of Ehrman and phd under Larry Hurtado.

    • @dunk_law
      @dunk_law 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@milkydudI used to communicate with Larry and knew some of his biases.

  • @dunk_law
    @dunk_law ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    "stream of Jesus tradition" - evidence please, or is this another chicken and egg puzzle?

    • @mikemkstR
      @mikemkstR 16 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Start your research