I'mj primarily an N scaler, but my wife's uncle gave me his old HO stuff, an AHM GP9 with a handful of cars. Then I wanted some steam, so I got a trio of Mehano steamers, two Consolidations and a Mikado. Then I needed more cars and a couple of cabooses...then I found an old 4-4-0 like I had when I was a kid...but I can stop any time I want. Nice to see you getting the old stuff running again, anyone can buy new but it takes mad skillz to run the old stuff.
Absolutely some great stuff! It does appear you’re gonna havta go bigger on your shed, no doubt! I’m looking forward to seeing what you do next! Have a good’n!
It's a good day when you post a video. I can't wait till you have those Varneys finished. I have an A and B varney union Pacific from circa 1940's my self but my B unit was sadly a victtim of zinc pest. Merch would be great! I want to buy a Classic Model Trains shirt that says "yea sure".
Happy to see you receiving donations. You’re gonna need a 2nd floor on your cabin… By the way 110 missing to the 2nd thousand. Two or three more videos til early December and you’re gonna reach the number, in less than a year. How about that?
Wow, Ron that was an awesome collection .... I have 2 of those HO Santa Fe Diesel Switcher units that don't run now so I will be fixing them up shortly on my channel. I did look to see if you have done the ones in this video but not as yet so I might beat you to the punch so to speak......
Excellent collection my good friend and really cool locomotives and cars it looks like you had a really great hall and a lot of different TH-camrs sent you some nice things.
All the best Ron! Your Work Orders are piling up it seems a bit which a good thing to have! I found my 027 Marx Big Rail Work Train the other day a gift from Santa from the early to mid 70s, looking forward to you videos working on those Marx steam locos! Hope to have it up and running to go around the tree this years? Take care and thanks!
Thanks EC. WOW ! I cant imagine still having stuff from 40 years ago. Must be great! Lots to fix on here. Winter storm is coming so lots of indoor time this week :-)
@@classicmodeltrains Yeah I was able to keep a few things from when I was kid. Don’t ask me about my Legos. Though in my defenses with the Legos I do mostly just Lego trains now. I did corrupt both my sons, 16 and 26, so they both still buy and build Legos too.
Lots of projects to work on in the coming winter season, Ron. I notice your shelf behind you is filled to capacity, also. You have quite a few loco sets on display, so good on you, buddy. Your channel seems to be really taking off! Best wishes to you and keep these videos coming.
Good morning Ron! I’m so happy that the models arrived to you safe and sound! And I am glad you really liked everything! I look forward to seeing you restore them! As well as everything else everyone has sent in to you. Your really getting a big following here in the tube, and I’m so happy I stumbled across your channel! A lot of people really enjoy your content and it’s really awesome to see all the goodies you have been receiving from all across the states and even abroad! I like all the Lionel stuff you got as well as all the Marx items! I remember the days when I was obsessed with those things. I’ve since moved to HO. I’ll send you a picture of my case when I get the chance. Been cleaning house and moving a lot of stuff. Been posting stuff online and want to start getting rid of things. If I find extras I know exactly where to send them! You should do a monthly mail call video so you can show off what you got! That is a awesome idea for your channel! I hope you have a wonderful day Ron and I’m grateful for your channel! Keep it up!!!
that was cool, couple shoutouts to boys in the North. I am pretty close to Woodstock and Delhi Ontario. couple great guys you mentioned on there. Thank you
Great video "Engineer Ron." With respect to O-27 and O gauge. You must look at the track as a "profile." Marx made O-33 radius track; Lionel did make O-42 radius track in a O-27 profile. Meaning the track sits slightly lower to "O" or affectionately called High Rail. I built an "O-27 layout a couple years ago using Marx O-33 radius track on a 4x8 and ran Lionel Post War Diesels with no problem. Lionel designed them to run on O-31 Radius curves. There are so many different dimensions of curves, and it can be confusing. The Maximum radius in the O-27 profile Lionel did make was O-54. In a second layout I built using "High Profile" track…. I utilized Pre-War O gauge American Flyer track which gave me O-42 radius curves. Why? I wanted my rail road to be entirely American Made, save on the limited space I had… and keep everything as vintage as possible. Different manufacturers like Atlas, Gar Graves, etc.…have their own unique spin on curves which can drive anyone nuts. Your Marx 666 are beast. They even made one in a side smoker configuration. You can still find them. I like the vintage HO stuff you acquired. I tip my hat to another amazing video. Good Luck with the repairs, and have a wonderful day. Thank you!
Well it made it! Just great Ron. Can't wait to see the VIA hit the layout in the future&then filling the empty spot on the shelf. Thank you for giving Scotty a shout out 🙋🚂🚃🚃🇨🇦🇺🇲
The steam locomotives and the diesel locomotives both have the same engines inside making them very easy to work on and parts are no problem. I love the 666 as it is a scale size of a small engine so it fits with the small 027 cars and lower profile track which looks more realistic. Marks also made 042 radius curved track I have almost a full set Mark's track also has more ties than Lionel and so it looks better. I got one box of marks from the train nobody wanted it so that guy sold me the whole box for 60 bucks. I have one layout for my wheel scale O gauge and then I have another layout with all the old 27 stuff on it so it doesn't look out of place.
Am doing some serious cleaning this week. Going to try to send you some good parts engines and rolling stock. Hope you can use the stuff just pass it on. Really enjoy your vids. If you are ever in Northwest NJ look me up. I can offer a good meal, beer, and best of all a big train layout to play with. Keep up the good Vids.
Cool finds. Make sure to check for a battery on the F3A and remove it until it is needed. This prevents leakage or swelling of the battery. This is a common issue on Lionel units with horns. As far as the Tyco/Mantua MU2 motors, one could drill out the rivets to access the motor area. The rivets would have to be replaced with a screw/washer/nut combo, but this is doable. I have a Tyco/Mantua F7A from the '60's in which someone has done this mod, and I want to take it apart to see what kind of fasteners were used.
Your SP caboose is a Silver Streak caboose. Good luck with your MDC Shay, there's a great book out there on not only how to build it but tune it for best operation. Front Range is a former aftermarket Athearn body and part manufacturer to make more accurate models. You got quite the haul, sir. I enjoy your videos.
The 3424 Operating Brakeman car actually does not work by pushing a button. If you put that boxcar on a Lionel remote control track it will not operate. The complete setup includes the car, the telltales, and a set of track trips. The track trips have very narrow blades that make contact inside the blue slider shoes to activate the solenoid. The shoes on this car are unique and will not make contact with a standard Lionel remote control track. Another fun video and love watching your channel grow. I think I was one of your first couple hundred subscribers. I gotta ask if you record your own music for your videos? I recall seeing a couple of Strats hanging behind you in one of them.
Greg, Thank you for the information on the boxcar. In my David Doyle catalog of Lionel trains it does mention needing telltales and what not. Now it sounds like I need the very specific ones for this boxcar. DANG IT!! That means I payed too much..... Ahhh.... the mistakes of a newbie. Thank you for supporting my channel, and being one of the first few who believed in my channel. I am currently unable to actually "make" music. I have very beginner skills with guitar and bass, and limited intermediate skills on drums. On my subscription based musical songs I use, I have mixed them down to shorter versions. Using just the intro's, outro's, and some thick and juicy stuff in the middle.
Marks made a lot of clockwork even after Clockwork went out of style because there were many farms out west that did not have electricity. Can you imagine not having electricity? Our world would ground to a halt.
I belve the twine dowm tank car is a very rare itam in the model railroad. World it can be found made bye Lionel in tow styles but both have inaccuracies but good detail and super hard to find in HO. SCALE or any other scale for that matter....
Let me tell you about my past I used to be able to do things like this a long time ago I really enjoy doing them it was when I had my grandparents in my life still I really loved them and unfortunately because my mother and my father never married and they are both complete failures in society I grew up in poverty and never could afford to do any of this stuff at-home the only time I could ever do any train stuff was with my grandpa and my grandmother we built a medium-sized train set in the sunroom and I would love to go shopping around at antique malls and various other resale places looking for these trains and pieces for my set.... God I loved doing that so much someday despite the market going the other direction to making it impossible to get home I hope someday I will be able to have one of my own and build another train set
One time the guy who runs the local motorcycle shop came to my house with all these boxes of trains. Lionel from the 50 to the MPC of the seventies they were in the shed that flooded and unfortunately the best pieces for the bottom of the shed and were seized solid. Lots of Passenger cars and he wanted a big price for everything until I pointed out to him that the couplers were missing this was missing that was missing and the small parts that are missing are more expensive than the car they go on. We settled on a price and I took some. The passenger trains I just use six zip ties to zip tie them together because you don't really switch passenger trains. Had an old baker light observation car and after it ran around the layout a few times the lights started to work. 70 years old still working that's American made quality not like the made in China crap we have now. One guy had a box of later Lionel that he wanted a fortune for and I pointed out to him that they were very keep trained such to begin with and they had lots of damage from four storage or misuse I didn't know he was very disappointed he thought I was trying to buy them all for nothing until I had to point out to him all of the damage each of the pieces had very little of it was completely intact.
It seems people believe these old models have a serious collector value. They always miss the part where it's only collectable if it's in seriously nice condition. Sounds like you got some of them working again and preserved for future generations :-)
Let us know if you find someone that 3D prints gears. I got 2 Bachmann locos from the mid to late 80s that need gears. Other than cracked gears they run great.
Thats a very early generation Ho rivarossi set from 1956 pretty uncommon because its european and all the ones in better shape are in the hands of collectors the stack was a seperate piece of unpainted steel or brass back then until they decided to replace it with plastic
The one and only thing I don't like about Mark steam locomotives is that they put on an air horn it stand out like a sore thumb and it just does not look right to me ....
So great to see your channel growing so well and that so many peeps are donating stuff way too cool. Can't wait to see your next video. Take care Ron
Thanks so much!!
WOW, nice way to wake up in the morning and see your Video. Many, many Thanks.
Greetings Lynn, I hope I got all the info and pronunciations right. :-)
@@classicmodeltrains You did GREAT. Thanks again.
Fantastic throw back "Ron's classic" vid. Loved it. Keep it up buddy!!
Thank you
Keep collecting Trains Ron love your Haul.
Thanks, will do!
I'mj primarily an N scaler, but my wife's uncle gave me his old HO stuff, an AHM GP9 with a handful of cars. Then I wanted some steam, so I got a trio of Mehano steamers, two Consolidations and a Mikado. Then I needed more cars and a couple of cabooses...then I found an old 4-4-0 like I had when I was a kid...but I can stop any time I want.
Nice to see you getting the old stuff running again, anyone can buy new but it takes mad skillz to run the old stuff.
I can stop anytime I want to also. I've already done it hundreds of times ;-D
“but I can stop anytime I want”. 😂
Excelente Video , very good job- So great to see your Channel so well- Greetings from Argentina!!!!
Thank you very much!
Ron, you've done great work on all these items you've shown. Keep em coming.
Thanks, will do!
That was some nice locomotives everyone sent you can't wait to see video on them
Thanks 👍
Love your videos, layed up right waiting for knee replacement. Your videos help the time pass. Can't wait to get to my trains again
Glad to help out anyway I can Andy. Them new Knee's do take a bit to settle into. I hope everything goes good for ya!!
Absolutely some great stuff!
It does appear you’re gonna havta go bigger on your shed, no doubt!
I’m looking forward to seeing what you do next!
Have a good’n!
Thanks Jeb
I really enjoy watching your videos
I appreciate that!
I like the back stories you tell for each piece.
Thanks Kent. I try and keep it interesting.
Awesome stuff buddy. Can't wait to see you work on those beauty's.
Thanks!
It's a good day when you post a video. I can't wait till you have those Varneys finished.
I have an A and B varney union Pacific from circa 1940's my self but my B unit was sadly a victtim of zinc pest.
Merch would be great! I want to buy a Classic Model Trains shirt that says "yea sure".
Thanks David. Sorry to hear about your "B" unit. Didnt realize I said "yea sure" that much but the little lady informed me I say it all the time. 🙂
Happy to see you receiving donations. You’re gonna need a 2nd floor on your cabin…
By the way 110 missing to the 2nd thousand. Two or three more videos til early December and you’re gonna reach the number, in less than a year. How about that?
Yes, that would be great to be at 2000 subs in a year. fingers crossed
Nice bunch of stuff Ron!!!
Thanks Ray
Thanks to all who have donated! Have a great day
Wow, Ron that was an awesome collection .... I have 2 of those HO Santa Fe Diesel Switcher units that don't run now so I will be fixing them up shortly on my channel. I did look to see if you have done the ones in this video but not as yet so I might beat you to the punch so to speak......
Hello Tim, Yeah I have not gotten to the little diesel switchers yet. I'll have to watch yours and get some good servicing tips ;-)
Excellent collection my good friend and really cool locomotives and cars it looks like you had a really great hall and a lot of different TH-camrs sent you some nice things.
Thank you very much!
All the best Ron! Your Work Orders are piling up it seems a bit which a good thing to have! I found my 027 Marx Big Rail Work Train the other day a gift from Santa from the early to mid 70s, looking forward to you videos working on those Marx steam locos! Hope to have it up and running to go around the tree this years? Take care and thanks!
Thanks EC. WOW ! I cant imagine still having stuff from 40 years ago. Must be great! Lots to fix on here. Winter storm is coming so lots of indoor time this week :-)
@@classicmodeltrains Yeah I was able to keep a few things from when I was kid. Don’t ask me about my Legos. Though in my defenses with the Legos I do mostly just Lego trains now. I did corrupt both my sons, 16 and 26, so they both still buy and build Legos too.
Lots of projects to work on in the coming winter season, Ron. I notice your shelf behind you is filled to capacity, also. You have quite a few loco sets on display, so good on you, buddy. Your channel seems to be really taking off! Best wishes to you and keep these videos coming.
Thanks 13th, Best wishes to you and your's as well :-)
What a great find
Thanks :-)
Good morning Ron! I’m so happy that the models arrived to you safe and sound! And I am glad you really liked everything! I look forward to seeing you restore them! As well as everything else everyone has sent in to you. Your really getting a big following here in the tube, and I’m so happy I stumbled across your channel! A lot of people really enjoy your content and it’s really awesome to see all the goodies you have been receiving from all across the states and even abroad!
I like all the Lionel stuff you got as well as all the Marx items! I remember the days when I was obsessed with those things. I’ve since moved to HO. I’ll send you a picture of my case when I get the chance.
Been cleaning house and moving a lot of stuff. Been posting stuff online and want to start getting rid of things. If I find extras I know exactly where to send them! You should do a monthly mail call video so you can show off what you got! That is a awesome idea for your channel!
I hope you have a wonderful day Ron and I’m grateful for your channel! Keep it up!!!
Thanks Marc once again for your kind words. I'm glad you found my channel also. Hope your day is treating you good! :-)
Phenomenal haul Ron. You're gonna need a Bigger shed brother. Love that Via Tyco!
Thanks Sir!
Keep up working on those Trains. I am Sure you still have Plenty of Trains to Work On Rock it out Ron!
Thanks. Yup lots if stuff to work on over here :-)
that was cool, couple shoutouts to boys in the North. I am pretty close to Woodstock and Delhi Ontario. couple great guys you mentioned on there. Thank you
Very cool!
🙋🚂🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🙏
Great video "Engineer Ron." With respect to O-27 and O gauge. You must look at the track as a "profile." Marx made O-33 radius track; Lionel did make O-42 radius track in a O-27 profile. Meaning the track sits slightly lower to "O" or affectionately called High Rail. I built an "O-27 layout a couple years ago using Marx O-33 radius track on a 4x8 and ran Lionel Post War Diesels with no problem. Lionel designed them to run on O-31 Radius curves. There are so many different dimensions of curves, and it can be confusing. The Maximum radius in the O-27 profile Lionel did make was O-54. In a second layout I built using "High Profile" track…. I utilized Pre-War O gauge American Flyer track which gave me O-42 radius curves. Why? I wanted my rail road to be entirely American Made, save on the limited space I had… and keep everything as vintage as possible. Different manufacturers like Atlas, Gar Graves, etc.…have their own unique spin on curves which can drive anyone nuts. Your Marx 666 are beast. They even made one in a side smoker configuration. You can still find them. I like the vintage HO stuff you acquired. I tip my hat to another amazing video. Good Luck with the repairs, and have a wonderful day. Thank you!
Hello Donald, Thanks for your kind words, and some great information on track. Sounds like you have a lot of layouts on your resume! :-)
@@classicmodeltrains Yes I do my friend. Once again thank you for another installment of "Classic Model Trains."
sweet catches on trains
Thanks :-)
Well it made it! Just great Ron. Can't wait to see the VIA hit the layout in the future&then filling the empty spot on the shelf. Thank you for giving Scotty a shout out
🙋🚂🚃🚃🇨🇦🇺🇲
Yup Yup! The Via is up on the shelves with it's other Canadian cousins. Thank you once again!
@@classicmodeltrains 🙋🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲
The steam locomotives and the diesel locomotives both have the same engines inside making them very easy to work on and parts are no problem. I love the 666 as it is a scale size of a small engine so it fits with the small 027 cars and lower profile track which looks more realistic. Marks also made 042 radius curved track I have almost a full set Mark's track also has more ties than Lionel and so it looks better. I got one box of marks from the train nobody wanted it so that guy sold me the whole box for 60 bucks. I have one layout for my wheel scale O gauge and then I have another layout with all the old 27 stuff on it so it doesn't look out of place.
Sounds like you have a lot going on. I'm wanting to build a layout for my "O" stuff. 42" diameter so it look "right"
Muy bien trenes ho 👏👌👍❤
Gracias
Looking forward to the repair on the daylight
Me too! Unfortunately it needs parts that are no longer available.
@Classic Model Trains I'm in same boat with mine
Am doing some serious cleaning this week. Going to try to send you some good parts engines and rolling stock. Hope you can use the stuff just pass it on. Really enjoy your vids. If you are ever in Northwest NJ look me up. I can offer a good meal, beer, and best of all a big train layout to play with. Keep up the good Vids.
Sounds great Joseph. Food, beer, and trains? Sound perfect to me :-)
Cool finds. Make sure to check for a battery on the F3A and remove it until it is needed. This prevents leakage or swelling of the battery. This is a common issue on Lionel units with horns.
As far as the Tyco/Mantua MU2 motors, one could drill out the rivets to access the motor area. The rivets would have to be replaced with a screw/washer/nut combo, but this is doable. I have a Tyco/Mantua F7A from the '60's in which someone has done this mod, and I want to take it apart to see what kind of fasteners were used.
Greetings Cass, Yup I checked for battery first thing. Thanks though!
Fun stuff!
:-)
Your SP caboose is a Silver Streak caboose. Good luck with your MDC Shay, there's a great book out there on not only how to build it but tune it for best operation. Front Range is a former aftermarket Athearn body and part manufacturer to make more accurate models.
You got quite the haul, sir. I enjoy your videos.
Thanks for your kind words and good information :-)
The 3424 Operating Brakeman car actually does not work by pushing a button. If you put that boxcar on a Lionel remote control track it will not operate. The complete setup includes the car, the telltales, and a set of track trips. The track trips have very narrow blades that make contact inside the blue slider shoes to activate the solenoid. The shoes on this car are unique and will not make contact with a standard Lionel remote control track.
Another fun video and love watching your channel grow. I think I was one of your first couple hundred subscribers. I gotta ask if you record your own music for your videos? I recall seeing a couple of Strats hanging behind you in one of them.
Greg, Thank you for the information on the boxcar. In my David Doyle catalog of Lionel trains it does mention needing telltales and what not. Now it sounds like I need the very specific ones for this boxcar. DANG IT!! That means I payed too much..... Ahhh.... the mistakes of a newbie.
Thank you for supporting my channel, and being one of the first few who believed in my channel. I am currently unable to actually "make" music. I have very beginner skills with guitar and bass, and limited intermediate skills on drums. On my subscription based musical songs I use, I have mixed them down to shorter versions. Using just the intro's, outro's, and some thick and juicy stuff in the middle.
I like your seventies era chevy truck
Thanks Carl. Its a 1972 4X4
Marks made a lot of clockwork even after Clockwork went out of style because there were many farms out west that did not have electricity. Can you imagine not having electricity? Our world would ground to a halt.
I can imagine no electricity. It sure gets boring quick :-)
How goes it Ron! Doin good.have you been Hitting some Train shows? Went to our Oct Show Now WaitingFor the Feb.
I'm doing fine. Don't have train shows close by up here in Montana. These were found in 2nd hand and antique stores.
I belve the twine dowm tank car is a very rare itam in the model railroad. World it can be found made bye Lionel in tow styles but both have inaccuracies but good detail and super hard to find in HO. SCALE or any other scale for that matter....
Oh? I will have to look up the twin dome and see if I have a collectable :-)
Good to custom paint that marx make a fantasy piece
A couple of them did get a custom paint job I believe
Let me tell you about my past I used to be able to do things like this a long time ago I really enjoy doing them it was when I had my grandparents in my life still I really loved them and unfortunately because my mother and my father never married and they are both complete failures in society I grew up in poverty and never could afford to do any of this stuff at-home the only time I could ever do any train stuff was with my grandpa and my grandmother we built a medium-sized train set in the sunroom and I would love to go shopping around at antique malls and various other resale places looking for these trains and pieces for my set.... God I loved doing that so much someday despite the market going the other direction to making it impossible to get home I hope someday I will be able to have one of my own and build another train set
I hope your journey becomes easier for you soon.
you can get gears for those gs4s on shapeways
Whats shapeways?
@@classicmodeltrains a site that sells 3d printed stuff
Just curious Is that New York Central Jeep 20
for sale by any chance....
This video is quite old and I dont recall a GP-20. what gauge? manufacturer can you tell?
Not to be nosy, but how much did that Lionel f3 ABA set cost at the vintage store?
$250. I seen 2 A-B-A sets go for around $180 on e-bay in the last month . But I had no shipping to pay and no shipping damage to repair.
@@classicmodeltrains i'd say thats a fair price.
One time the guy who runs the local motorcycle shop came to my house with all these boxes of trains. Lionel from the 50 to the MPC of the seventies they were in the shed that flooded and unfortunately the best pieces for the bottom of the shed and were seized solid. Lots of Passenger cars and he wanted a big price for everything until I pointed out to him that the couplers were missing this was missing that was missing and the small parts that are missing are more expensive than the car they go on. We settled on a price and I took some. The passenger trains I just use six zip ties to zip tie them together because you don't really switch passenger trains. Had an old baker light observation car and after it ran around the layout a few times the lights started to work. 70 years old still working that's American made quality not like the made in China crap we have now. One guy had a box of later Lionel that he wanted a fortune for and I pointed out to him that they were very keep trained such to begin with and they had lots of damage from four storage or misuse I didn't know he was very disappointed he thought I was trying to buy them all for nothing until I had to point out to him all of the damage each of the pieces had very little of it was completely intact.
It seems people believe these old models have a serious collector value. They always miss the part where it's only collectable if it's in seriously nice condition. Sounds like you got some of them working again and preserved for future generations :-)
When all else fails, read the destructions!
Some guys swear by those things :-)
Steel building I work with Amish everyday up to 18 months ago, now only a couple times a month TY
I dont quite know what this comment is saying
you had said something about needing more room and mentioned steel building. I used to help building thats all @@classicmodeltrains
Woah, that's a lot of stuff
Yup. I't starting to add up a bit :-)
Let us know if you find someone that 3D prints gears. I got 2 Bachmann locos from the mid to late 80s that need gears. Other than cracked gears they run great.
You betcha! Dang Bachmann engineers....build such beauties but used to hard of a plastic compound
I see you have a truck trailer crann it's
from tyco ho train silverstreak set.
Yup, a few of them are floating around my stuff here.
In the old days you bought your kids a set of Mark's trains and if they didn't destroy them then you bought them Lionel trains.
Agree!!
What Other Engines you working on Next?
Not quite sure what the next video will be. Maybe them Lionel "O" gauge F units
thata yellow unit with green on the hood is an alco fa-1
Ya, I did a rescue video on it not too long ago. Did I miss a flub up in editing and call it something else? Dang it!
@@classicmodeltrains it happens bud,love the channel!!!!!!!
Thats a very early generation Ho rivarossi set from 1956 pretty uncommon because its european and all the ones in better shape are in the hands of collectors the stack was a seperate piece of unpainted steel or brass back then until they decided to replace it with plastic
I have a rescue video coming up on that little switcher set w/ European cars. Thanks for the info.
Ron it is South Carolina not Southern Carolina.
I can mispronounce about any town it seems like :-)
2343?!?!?!?
Yup! revival video in the works on 'em!
Hola amigo cuántos dólares cuesta una locomotora escala h o
Hola Crecencio, No vendo artículos aquí. Compro estos de todas partes. Algunos tan pequeños como $5.00 algunos cuestan más de $100
The one and only thing I don't like about Mark steam locomotives is that they put on an air horn it stand out like a sore thumb and it just does not look right
to me ....
:-)
The "Lionel" GS 4 is actually made by Bachmann and the drive is very low quality.
Yup, I agree!!