I enjoy your videos because they are made for intermediate /advanced guitar players who face the reality of lacking money but have a more sophisticated ear.
I own one of these in the CG172SF USA numbering which is the same as your guitar with the 182 being the European designation of the same instrument. I like mine too and I'm using it to learn flamenco technique. They're great little guitars for the money and factory set up is pretty amazing. You'd never expect that from a guitar that retails well under $500.00.
Hiya Pete, Great review and what a wonderful bargain!! Laminate back and sides are, as you say a very contentious issue, but I wonder how many people know that the the great Django Reinhardt's Selmer guitars had them!? There was nothing wrong with his playing!!! Take care, David 😎🎶🎸🇬🇧
I play an Angel Lopez flamenco of €400 . The bridge was not properly made . Absolute clumsy but I fixed it . One tuner broke even before I could reach the pitch . So I put on a new tuner . And the frets were sticking out so I have to shave that too . Still the guitar plays nice and has a convincing flamenco sound . What do you think ? Anyway next time it will be Alhambra for me . The 4f and if I can afford it the 7f .
No probs,as you say in OZ. After playing daily for two years , the tone of mine has improved tremendously and now sounds ,and plays great.best wishes from UK.
All kinds of woods are being tried these days . I see no reason why maple should not work well. As a timber ,it probably has the right qualities. The answer is,try it and if you like it,go for it.
I have a CG171SF. Flamenco players have played it and say it sounds dead. The neck also warped and I had to have it repaired with a carbon rod and a new fretboard. It still sounds dead, if not more so. I now detune it considerably to get a usable sound. Very nice to play feel wise but for me Yamaha did not know what they were doing when they made this particular model. Disappointing.
@@duendedude2345 my friend bought one at the same time as mine and I have it at the moment. Same dead sound. I have a hand build Bernal flamenco and that very bright. Depends on what u like I suppose.
I once owned a Sanchis guitar with traditional tuning pegs and had no tuning problems, and the light weight of the headstock is nice, but the action was not to my liking so I sold it. If you are adept at tuning violin and cello,you obviously will have no problems with a guitar with pegs. I would not recommend them for beginners as it is far easier to get into playing,but much harder to get good at tuning.Pegs are not popular today and are rarely seen,and should you wish to sell such an instrument, it would be more difficult to find a buyer and the resale value could be affected.( unless it was a vintage guitar with rarity value.)
Yes, Henk. Yamaha guitars are of consistent quality and good value . There is no need to pay a fortune for the bragging rights of owning an expensive brand. Yamaha, Ibanez, Aria etc are all of good quality at reasonable prices.
Of course, The "best" guitars sound incredible,but they are also very expensive. However, it is case of diminishing returns. In other words, as you go up the scale, you get little bit more for a hell of a lot more money. It is easy to become obsessed with little nuances in sound where most people would not notice the difference. My Yamahas' tone has improved greatly over the past couple of years.So, for playability and tone at the right price, it is hard to beat. With good playability, there are no barriers to becoming a virtuoso, given lots of practise .
Have you heard of the Cordoba Ibenez range? I'm thinking of getting the C7 which has a solid Spruce top, Indian Rosewood back and sides and a thin u shaped neck. Its a classical guitar but I'm thinking the Spruce top, which is thinner than on a typical Cedar classical guitar, would make it a good dual purpose instrument for both classical and flamenco.
I guess you mean the Cordoba Iberia series. Don't have any personal experience with them but the demo by Ben woods sounds excellent. They are very reasonably priced and popular.
Thank You pete... can this guitar be use for classical. or is there much different classical and flamenco Guitar kindly detail in your view before i hunt down.
Check out the many videos on youtube detailing the differences between classical and flamenco guitars. Basically , the flamenco guitar will have a lower, faster action and a brighter tone. Some people use them for classical. Depends if you want the clean mellow sound of a classical model or not.
Thats some really good playing man. Can you please tell me the name of the first song you played? And if you know any good artists and songs with a similar sound please let me know.
I have no personal experience of the Alhambra 3F But I imagine the 3F and the Yamaha to be very similar. The 3F has Sycamore back and sides as opposed to cyprus on the yamaha which may soften the sound slightly. The action is said to be a little under 3mm. Seems to be little to chose between them. If you have the opportunity to try them, it will be down to personal choice, But I don't think you could go wrong with either. Aria also have a similar model made in Spain, all at a similar price.
A classical model at that price should have a rich, mellow, projecting tone. so ,if this is what you want, I would go to a large store and spend a few hours trying everything they have until you decide which you prefer. Be very critical, and take your time. The one you like best may well prove to be not the most expensive. Also , brands like Alhambra, yamaha, Ibanez are of consistent quality for the price. Good hunting.
Yep, that and the fact that I reckon I had lessons with you way back in the day. I'm in W Norfolk too. Do you still teach? Could really do with finding a flamenco teacher.
Was that at savages music shop?? Sorry, Don't teach now. happily retired and doing my own thing. It's mostly about the various right hand techniques,and there is loads of stuff on youtube. Then get Jaun Martins' book, El Arte Guitarre de la Flamenca, Or Paco Pena Torques Flamencas. Then practice A LOT.
It was indeed at Savage's. You were very patient as I badly muddled my way though the solo from Another Brick in the Wall over and over :-). Thanks for the advice and encouragement, much appreciated. All the best, enjoy your retirement!
No, but I have since fitted a soundboard piezo transducer pickup. It is easy and cheap to do and I'm pretty happy with the result. I have made a video on this. Check it out.
I enjoy your videos because they are made for intermediate /advanced guitar players who face the reality of lacking money but have a more sophisticated ear.
I own one of these in the CG172SF USA numbering which is the same as your guitar with the 182 being the European designation of the same instrument. I like mine too and I'm using it to learn flamenco technique. They're great little guitars for the money and factory set up is pretty amazing. You'd never expect that from a guitar that retails well under $500.00.
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Yamaha are good at everything they do, that’s it.
If they had women made by Yamaha! I'd marry one in a heartbeat!!!
Hiya Pete, Great review and what a wonderful bargain!! Laminate back and sides are, as you say a very contentious issue, but I wonder how many people know that the the great Django Reinhardt's Selmer guitars had them!? There was nothing wrong with his playing!!! Take care, David 😎🎶🎸🇬🇧
I play an Angel Lopez flamenco of €400 . The bridge was not properly made . Absolute clumsy but I fixed it . One tuner broke even before I could reach the pitch . So I put on a new tuner . And the frets were sticking out so I have to shave that too . Still the guitar plays nice and has a convincing flamenco sound . What do you think ?
Anyway next time it will be Alhambra for me . The 4f and if I can afford it the 7f .
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Very good guitars
Yamaha flamenco guitar made in China or Japan?
China, but Yamaha seem to have good quality control to ensure a consistent product, as do some other reliable brands.
@@duendedude2345 my friend Yamaha I have cg171f made in China the sound not good before I like now not I will sale this guitar
Thank you very much for the informed review, is much appreciated. Brian Kennedy Australia.
No probs,as you say in OZ. After playing daily for two years , the tone of mine has improved tremendously and now sounds ,and plays great.best wishes from UK.
It sounds great sir , but what do you think about spruce top/maple back and sides for flamenco guitar ?!
All kinds of woods are being tried these days . I see no reason why maple should not work well. As a timber ,it probably has the right qualities. The answer is,try it and if you like it,go for it.
I have a CG171SF. Flamenco players have played it and say it sounds dead. The neck also warped and I had to have it repaired with a carbon rod and a new fretboard. It still sounds dead, if not more so. I now detune it considerably to get a usable sound. Very nice to play feel wise but for me Yamaha did not know what they were doing when they made this particular model. Disappointing.
Maybe you were just unlucky. many people have praised the older 171 and I am still very happy with my 182.
@@duendedude2345 my friend bought one at the same time as mine and I have it at the moment. Same dead sound. I have a hand build Bernal flamenco and that very bright. Depends on what u like I suppose.
hi Pete. thx for the review. any thoughts on wood peg tuners? I come from a violin and cello background. thx
I once owned a Sanchis guitar with traditional tuning pegs and had no tuning problems, and the light weight of the headstock is nice, but the action was not to my liking so I sold it. If you are adept at tuning violin and cello,you obviously will have no problems with a guitar with pegs. I would not recommend them for beginners as it is far easier to get into playing,but much harder to get good at tuning.Pegs are not popular today and are rarely seen,and should you wish to sell such an instrument, it would be more difficult to find a buyer and the resale value could be affected.( unless it was a vintage guitar with rarity value.)
nice review... practical and helpful. Gracias!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent film. :) Would you please tell me if this guitar is made with a truss rod ?
Thank you for your help. :) Tony.
No truss rod. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your lessons & tips.
Thanks James.
Is that an ebony fretboard? Nice sounding guitar.
No, not ebony. Rose wood ,I think ,. You are unlikely to get ebony in this price range, but I am very happy with the guitar.
Dont underestimate yamaha guitars. great sound
Yes, Henk. Yamaha guitars are of consistent quality and good value . There is no need to pay a fortune for the bragging rights of owning an expensive brand. Yamaha, Ibanez, Aria etc are all of good quality at reasonable prices.
Pete in your opinion how does the sound compare to the "best" flamenco guitars out there ?
Of course, The "best" guitars sound incredible,but they are also very expensive. However, it is case of diminishing returns. In other words, as you go up the scale, you get little bit more for a hell of a lot more money. It is easy to become obsessed with little nuances in sound where most people would not notice the difference. My Yamahas' tone has improved greatly over the past couple of years.So, for playability and tone at the right price, it is hard to beat. With good playability, there are no barriers to becoming a virtuoso, given lots of practise .
DuendeDude treat yourself and put daddario ej46ff strings on that yamaha cg182f. Great sound
Have you heard of the Cordoba Ibenez range? I'm thinking of getting the C7 which has a solid Spruce top, Indian Rosewood back and sides and a thin u shaped neck. Its a classical guitar but I'm thinking the Spruce top, which is thinner than on a typical Cedar classical guitar, would make it a good dual purpose instrument for both classical and flamenco.
I guess you mean the Cordoba Iberia series. Don't have any personal experience with them but the demo by Ben woods sounds excellent. They are very reasonably priced and popular.
Thank You pete... can this guitar be use for classical. or is there much different classical and flamenco Guitar kindly detail in your view before i hunt down.
Check out the many videos on youtube detailing the differences between classical and flamenco guitars. Basically , the flamenco guitar will have a lower, faster action and a brighter tone. Some people use them for classical. Depends if you want the clean mellow sound of a classical model or not.
Thats some really good playing man. Can you please tell me the name of the first song you played? And if you know any good artists and songs with a similar sound please let me know.
The intro was a piece of Solea. Just search Solea, flamenco guitar and loads of stuff will come up.
@@duendedude2345 Thank you :D
My teacher recommend me to buy 182SF can't find this gitar in Indonesia..
Yamaha guitars are very consistent in quality, so it is probably less of a gamble to have shipped from overseas than some other brands. Good luck.
@@duendedude2345 thank you I own it now
@@joesinurat9276 Excellent ! Hope you are happy with it. Enjoy.
Which one do you recomend Alhambra 3F or Yamaha CG182SF
I have no personal experience of the Alhambra 3F But I imagine the 3F and the Yamaha to be very similar. The 3F has Sycamore back and sides as opposed to cyprus on the yamaha which may soften the sound slightly. The action is said to be a little under 3mm. Seems to be little to chose between them. If you have the opportunity to try them, it will be down to personal choice, But I don't think you could go wrong with either. Aria also have a similar model made in Spain, all at a similar price.
What can you recomend me about 1000$ clasical guitar, i am an begginer but want to grow with it and still keep
A classical model at that price should have a rich, mellow, projecting tone. so ,if this is what you want, I would go to a large store and spend a few hours trying everything they have until you decide which you prefer. Be very critical, and take your time. The one you like best may well prove to be not the most expensive. Also , brands like Alhambra, yamaha, Ibanez are of consistent quality for the price. Good hunting.
I recommend the Yamahambra C3FG 293FS
Great videos Pete. Are you in Norfolk?
Yes. West Norfolk. Did you detect a hint of an accent?
Yep, that and the fact that I reckon I had lessons with you way back in the day. I'm in W Norfolk too. Do you still teach? Could really do with finding a flamenco teacher.
Was that at savages music shop?? Sorry, Don't teach now. happily retired and doing my own thing. It's mostly about the various right hand techniques,and there is loads of stuff on youtube. Then get Jaun Martins' book, El Arte Guitarre de la Flamenca, Or Paco Pena Torques Flamencas. Then practice A LOT.
It was indeed at Savage's. You were very patient as I badly muddled my way though the solo from Another Brick in the Wall over and over :-). Thanks for the advice and encouragement, much appreciated. All the best, enjoy your retirement!
Does it contain a microphone?
No, but I have since fitted a soundboard piezo transducer pickup. It is easy and cheap to do and I'm pretty happy with the result. I have made a video on this. Check it out.
listen to Eric Johnsons recording of DESERT SONG. he made that with a $150 classical guitar.
Will do.
How fast does it go?
Thinkingng its a recording issue but sounds terrible. Sounds like you might have some throwt cancer, if so I hope you heat it.
Good pseudo flamenco, lol.