The difference in tone you describe is more likely due to the fact that 'buckers on an SG are closer to the bridge than on a Les Paul. You might think that a 1/4-inch difference wouldn't be that noticeable, but given identical pickups, moving it closer to the bridge will brighten/thin out the tone.
I was gonna say the same thing, but I'd add differences in pickup height, intonation, pot/cap values, tuning, string gauges, and how well the nut was cut, and how the saddles were notched. Sometimes people don't realize they changed their rig, messed with knobs, moved furniture, moved amps/mics, and other variables.
I added a (functioning) B3 with Towner bar to my SG, along with a neck P94. Stays in tune perfectly, fixes neck dive and looks cool. I love that guitar
Pro-tip for everyone with SG bridge pup problems: You need to lower the height of the bridge pickup by almost a 1/4", and from there raise it until it's JUST enough gain for you without sounding shrill. Then raise or lower the pole pieced accordingly with a screw driver.
The tone in the bridge will get a lot fatter with a pickup ring installed. Look at how the humbucker sits next to the strings, half the pickup is close and half is far away. The pickup ring fixes this.
i would've ditched the bigsby for the vibrola trem which usually stays in tune fine if you do a few things. 1. add a schaller roller bridge 2. locking tuners and 3. tusq xl nut the next 2 things is optional but my suggestion is a nice set up and strung with 11-52 and it'll barely go out of tune. pickups also your suggestion but I put a set of seymour duncan 59 neck and Custom 5 in the bridge and it just sings. again that's my modded SG 61 RI and it works great for me
Running the hot rod 77 in my LP and 57/66 in my epi SG, They are killer. I have yet to bring out my Gibson SG and do anything with her. She is so precious. Great work, I was thinking those emgs when you were talking about them. LOL!!!
SG's are simply brighter than say a les Paul. The bridge position js notoriously bright if you have it on 10 and i am guessing you dime everything all the time. I feel like a lot of people don't realize how expressive the tone and volume controls can be. A ton of major players keep the bridge tone knob on 5 on SGs
The sg bridge pickup is closer to the bridge itself, thats where most of the tonal difference with the sd comes from. Sure, les pauls having more wood changes the sound too but to a much lesser degree.
I put a bigsby & locking tuners on my les paul. But I solved 95% of the tuning issues that revolve around a bigsby by adding a roller bridge also I keep a little bit of graphite on the nut as well. The roller bridge made such a difference I purchased two more for the other two guitars I own that have a bigsby installed. I'm completely sold on them. Also that's a fucking cool sg!
I really disliked the 498 490 pickups in my Les Paul too for similar reasons. I switched to Lollar imperials and now I can hear detail in my playing I never could hear with the stock 490/498 combo
I've had two SGs, a Special Faded and a 2017 Standard. Both came with 490r and 490t pickups. Those pickups are so uninspiring. The bridge is thin and has gutless while the neck was too warm and muddy. I actually liked the Duncan Custom in mine. I had a set of Pearly Gates in one too that were cool. I ended up getting some hot PAF style humbuckers from Wolfetone and that pretty much took care of that. Also consider I put a pickup ring on the bridge pickup in the Special so that the humbucker was actually in parallel with the strings. One of Angus Youngs main guitars is set up the same way.
I know there are a lot of different theories of whether pickups or speakers make a difference in sound, but i know I did not like the 490/498 combo on my SG. I had 57 classics so i swapped them out in my SG and I have not changed them out since.
Silicon spray in the nut and on the saddles and roller of the bigsby is the solution for tuning issues. Nobody listens to me. I can disresepect mine and it stays in tune without any hassle. PS the B7 On an SG looks SICK. I have one on mine.
I would've left or looked for another set of P90's until i found the ones. Lollars standard are always good for me. Got them in my sg. They're a little bit hot but clear and.. i dont actually notice the noise if there is any.
What did you use for momentary kill switch, what brand? Model? One of my SG's (used) came with a B70 vibrato, so it didn't have to be flipped. I've never had any experience with a B7, but I did read that that's what you had to do with those for an SG.
It's a 2016, who cares how you mod it? Just as long as you're enjoying it, that's all that matters. As for tone, I think the pickup placement on an SG differs a bit from a Les Paul. That and the pots might have something to do with it
It's not the wood that makes any difference in any electric guitar. It might be the amp, speakers, pots, positioning, height, any other number of things, but wood doesn't factor into it. In fact you can make an entirely metal electric guitar, or a carbon fiber, and you won't notice a difference if all the other elements are exactly the same. The issue is that all the other elements won't be exactly the same.
The difference in tone you describe is more likely due to the fact that 'buckers on an SG are closer to the bridge than on a Les Paul. You might think that a 1/4-inch difference wouldn't be that noticeable, but given identical pickups, moving it closer to the bridge will brighten/thin out the tone.
I was gonna say the same thing, but I'd add differences in pickup height, intonation, pot/cap values, tuning, string gauges, and how well the nut was cut, and how the saddles were notched. Sometimes people don't realize they changed their rig, messed with knobs, moved furniture, moved amps/mics, and other variables.
Never underestimate pickup location, there's a reason a Strat has the neck pickup where the 24th fret would be
only the neck pickup is different. the bridge pickup is the same distance from the bridge on both the sg and les paul.
This whole thread is annoying internet is dumb
I added a (functioning) B3 with Towner bar to my SG, along with a neck P94. Stays in tune perfectly, fixes neck dive and looks cool. I love that guitar
I second this
Pro-tip for everyone with SG bridge pup problems: You need to lower the height of the bridge pickup by almost a 1/4", and from there raise it until it's JUST enough gain for you without sounding shrill. Then raise or lower the pole pieced accordingly with a screw driver.
B7 Bigsby >>>> B5 on an SG 🔥🔥
The tone in the bridge will get a lot fatter with a pickup ring installed. Look at how the humbucker sits next to the strings, half the pickup is close and half is far away. The pickup ring fixes this.
i would've ditched the bigsby for the vibrola trem which usually stays in tune fine if you do a few things. 1. add a schaller roller bridge 2. locking tuners and 3. tusq xl nut the next 2 things is optional but my suggestion is a nice set up and strung with 11-52 and it'll barely go out of tune. pickups also your suggestion but I put a set of seymour duncan 59 neck and Custom 5 in the bridge and it just sings. again that's my modded SG 61 RI and it works great for me
Running the hot rod 77 in my LP and 57/66 in my epi SG, They are killer. I have yet to bring out my Gibson SG and do anything with her. She is so precious. Great work, I was thinking those emgs when you were talking about them. LOL!!!
SG's are simply brighter than say a les Paul. The bridge position js notoriously bright if you have it on 10 and i am guessing you dime everything all the time. I feel like a lot of people don't realize how expressive the tone and volume controls can be. A ton of major players keep the bridge tone knob on 5 on SGs
The sg bridge pickup is closer to the bridge itself, thats where most of the tonal difference with the sd comes from. Sure, les pauls having more wood changes the sound too but to a much lesser degree.
I put a bigsby & locking tuners on my les paul. But I solved 95% of the tuning issues that revolve around a bigsby by adding a roller bridge also I keep a little bit of graphite on the nut as well. The roller bridge made such a difference I purchased two more for the other two guitars I own that have a bigsby installed. I'm completely sold on them. Also that's a fucking cool sg!
That's a pretty sweet sinle coil tone, kinda blew me away hearing it out of an SG. Cool story bro 👍
You needed the 490T, Dawg!
I really disliked the 498 490 pickups in my Les Paul too for similar reasons. I switched to Lollar imperials and now I can hear detail in my playing I never could hear with the stock 490/498 combo
I've had two SGs, a Special Faded and a 2017 Standard. Both came with 490r and 490t pickups. Those pickups are so uninspiring. The bridge is thin and has gutless while the neck was too warm and muddy. I actually liked the Duncan Custom in mine. I had a set of Pearly Gates in one too that were cool. I ended up getting some hot PAF style humbuckers from Wolfetone and that pretty much took care of that. Also consider I put a pickup ring on the bridge pickup in the Special so that the humbucker was actually in parallel with the strings. One of Angus Youngs main guitars is set up the same way.
The B7 looks better than a maestro lyre and actually improves sustain also.
Towner kit with Bigsby B3 is the way to go if you want vibrato on your SG. Y'all are welcome.
I know there are a lot of different theories of whether pickups or speakers make a difference in sound, but i know I did not like the 490/498 combo on my SG. I had 57 classics so i swapped them out in my SG and I have not changed them out since.
Silicon spray in the nut and on the saddles and roller of the bigsby is the solution for tuning issues. Nobody listens to me. I can disresepect mine and it stays in tune without any hassle. PS the B7 On an SG looks SICK. I have one on mine.
I would've left or looked for another set of P90's until i found the ones. Lollars standard are always good for me. Got them in my sg. They're a little bit hot but clear and.. i dont actually notice the noise if there is any.
love the sparkle in the EMGs
awsome jorney man, glad that you got what you wanted! thanks for sharing with others (us) :)
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Really enjoyed it. SGs are an amazing guitar but can feel like they’re missing something
Red SG's rule. Nice video.
What did you use for momentary kill switch, what brand? Model? One of my SG's (used) came with a B70 vibrato, so it didn't have to be flipped. I've never had any experience with a B7, but I did read that that's what you had to do with those for an SG.
I ordered the kill switch directly from EMG
@@TheGuitar_Channel Thanks, I'll check it out. I found it!
Thanks to you I was able to mount my B7 on my SG 61
😂 OMG 🙏
Glad I could help
It's a 2016, who cares how you mod it? Just as long as you're enjoying it, that's all that matters.
As for tone, I think the pickup placement on an SG differs a bit from a Les Paul. That and the pots might have something to do with it
It's not the wood that makes any difference in any electric guitar. It might be the amp, speakers, pots, positioning, height, any other number of things, but wood doesn't factor into it. In fact you can make an entirely metal electric guitar, or a carbon fiber, and you won't notice a difference if all the other elements are exactly the same. The issue is that all the other elements won't be exactly the same.
What strings are on that? 10-52? Which brand?
Elixir Optiweb
Mojo = setup n neck dimension suitability
I'd add a String Butler.
I thought about that too
Amen brother about tonewood
I HATE a Bigsby B5 it takes all the beauty out of a bigsby but literally no one is putting B7s on an SG so i cant find anything helpful
I think your tone problem is not about the pickups, it is about the guitar lol you literally want the looks of an SG but you don't want its tone.
Joe rogan voice
Unfortunately not Joe Rogan looks
all you did is made an Epiphone SG Prophecy.
Who cares what the purists think. My SG is modded with a mini toggle that reverses the polarity of the neck pickup.
DiMarzio Super distortion . Will fix everything.