@@samwilliams0901 They are actual master tier players They're in the master tier Which doesn't mean they're as good as master players from other regions But considering they're in the top .5% of players I'd consider it PRETTY dang impressive
@@azeTrom17 no, they aren’t actually master tier, they are gold/plat with a master label. Did you look at that game and think “these players are pretty dang impressive”?
You aren't the one that decides when players are considered gold and when they're considered master. There's a tier system for it, and the people in that game were officially and objectively in NA's master tier. They are NOT in gold or plat, and ARE better than NA's gold and plat tier players. What I'm guessing you're TRYING to say is that master tier is NA is equal in skill level to gold tier in other regions.
LMAO the gromp kill on draven, then the melee on kayn and you turning into aphelios's turrets at the end omg oh and by the way kayn probably thought he would just one shot you but since you were a minion you just wouldnt take his passive's dmg and he wouldnt be able to ult either
I seriously thought this strat would flop. Minion disguising really screws with ppls heads lmfao! 10 yrs of confirmation bias on minions being minions. That Kayn was completely oblivious to you in that bot push, that's wild. I've done the same thing sometimes where I see a minion moving out of place and just immediately assume it's bugging out without really thinking about it. Good vid man!
I love this. Neeko rework is the best and worst thing ever. I hope they come out with more fun stuff like this instead of just boring balancing and champ releases.
Me and my partner always watch Pekin. The commentary is always informative, the games are fun. Always has a fantastic attitude. League TH-camrs/ twitch streamers like this don't come around often. And I am so glad when I googled non toxic league streamers your name came up. Please keep it up
I think Azir's first death was caused by the W > E buffer bug. If you have a soldier out already, and you buffer W into E somewhere else, the W input will get cancelled and the E will go off and just default to whatever soldier. This has happened to me so many times when I'm fighting and need to quickly run away or even just shield myself without comprising my position. It's gonna be a bug for another 15 years, I swear.
i would love to see the lillia game on the second channel. If it isn't too much work just put some music over the gameplay. Another solution is making it a commentary were you explain your decisions. Anyways love the content
So Pekin, I recommend trying what I call "unhinged Ornn mid". I have only been trying it recently, and have only done 3 games so far with it, but have won every match, with 2 of those being zero deaths lol. The runes I go are electrocute with cheap shot, taste of blood, and ultimate hunter, with the secondary runes being Sorcery with manaflow band and gathering storm, and little runes being attack speed, adaptive force, and health. My summoner spells I typically go are flash and ignite, and my starting item is doran's blade. The build I have been trying (though I only get about half way through the build before the match ends) is a one-shot build with stormrazer, either armor or magic resist boots, stattik shiv, infinity edge, rapidfire cannon, and then the last one I haven't fully decided yet because I never get this far, but I was thinking either bloodthirster or prowlers claw. The idea is that Ornn's q has a 110% ad ratio and is a good cs/poke tool to prepare for an all-in. Ornn's all-in is really good with this build because you can hit them with q, then dash to knock them up and immediately hit them with your w into brittle, which allows you to hit them with electrocute, brittle, and your energized auto while they are still stunned for most of that time. Also, Ornn can stay in lane longer than most other champs can because he can buy items from lane. It has been pretty fun so far playing this off-meta pick, so I would definitely recommend it.
That last death of Kayn (28:55) feel so inting because he was planing to ult on you, but he cannot ult you in minion form. Also melee minion form has a decent 1.25 AS so you was able to fight him. For optimizing this strategy (without using the bug of the attaking ward disguise) you can get the disguise from the cannon minion in the mid lane whe it is hiting the tower. For some reason Riot decided that was necesary to buff the AS of that specific minion on that specific situation, and so you can clone its higth AS.
yo Pekin, I know you probably won't, but I'd still like to request you upload the partial Lillia game on PW2, as I don't think there'd be any negative impact. Any video of you popping off is worth an upload imo, even without commentary. You could put some background music over it if you'd prefer that. Keep up the great work!
5:56 All these folks talking about how crazy this build is, and I'm sitting here in absolute shock never knowing that neeko's clone will copy your back animation and will stay for the entire duration of the back. I... had no idea this was a thing.
asking again for zoe support!!! the oblong walls make long sleeps very easy plus you can combo with miss fortune ult because aoe doesnt wake them up alternatively kaisa jungle is a very fun one. clear is hard early until noonquiver and/or Q upgrade. you can start W for extra plasma or Q for pure damage
Considering how much Zoe you play I'm surprised there hasn't been an off-meta role for her yet. Maybe sup or jgl, I feel like that would be fun to see, just spamming bubbles for the everyone else.
@@ranchonbread4905 When the jungle companions were originally released and they had op healing, he had done a Zoe jg. I don't think he's done it since the nerf to companions. I would wager he probably has tried a Zoe game but because he's so damn good at her, it's likely they were stomps even in a supp/jg role.
Also, the dumb concept is that Fiora's W blocks EVERYTHING - autos, CC, ability damage. Nothing works when she Ws. And, TIL, her W slows attack speed when it doesn't stun (I thought it only slowed your movespeed). That's fucking stupid. And we all know Riot is bad at coding - but Minion animations should default to their auto animation. Truthfully, every animation should have a default so there's never a time when something doesn't animate. Like minion "crit" animation should just be normal attack.
Another good video 👍 Something that's been bugging me: I don't understand why taking something with lifesteal really late is the meta. Lack of survivability seems like a mistake. I would think being able to recoup life after a skirmish without resetting would be really useful 🤷♂️
could you play ap rell jungle if you get filled again? her ratios are pretty decent, her clear explodes once you get some AP, and you could probably go something like rocket belt to make your W feel better to use
dont sleep on hail of blades rune when playing auto attack neeko. I take it when i go nashors first then rage blade and then build ap items. Apc neeko underrated asf
What if you do a vod commentary of the Lilia game? You have done that before right? Also, please do Urgot mid/jgl/top! Use Urpog’s build: Black Cleaver - Radiant Virtue - Redemption - Sterak’s - Gargoyle
I don't personally mind that the commentary wasn't captured for your Lilia game if you wanted to upload it to your second channel or something instead, or if you wanted to commentate over it instead. Either or, I'm hella down to still watch that game.
Pekinwoof, the guy who popularized AP Zeri Mid in the West for a little while. Has not played it in his off-meta run so far... This does not feel right. 👍😛
Neeko passive is buggy, I also noticed recently vs neeko that if she's low hp disguised as a minion, dark harvest "potential proc" vfx show on the minion lol
You do want to buy attack speed. 95% of the time, you'll spend as normal neeko. If you have no attack speed, good job, you've just created an imbalance of attack damage : attack speed in your build.
This is so ridiculous, they should make a prop hunt gamemode with this lmao
All for one neeko vs neeko!
Prop hunt fiddle sticks gamemode would be better
What is prop hunt
Pekin: "Crazy how strong Azir is"
Meanwhile, in a huge minion wave:
tbf he wouldn't be wrong, azir is v strong rn
He literally showed the minion damage, and it was basically nothing
@@giulianofatuzzo6963 247 damage from minions. woulda changed the outcome of the fight if he had cleared them first
It was 20% of his hp so yeah, it was a lot from minions
I would love to know what that kayn was thinking when he died to the minion. I would also love to see sona mid.
he got kayn brain
@@benmiller5125 Kayn syndrome
He was probably spamming r
Pekin out here doing QA scenarios that Riot never even thought of when testing the rework
Gromp killing Draven is the funniest shit ever. Also you rushing into a teamfight as a minion is iconic XD
Pekin you can still probably commentate over your lillia vid, I think talking over a replay might be a nice change of pace in vid style
I agree! id love to watch that lillia vis even as a replay
Agreed!
Problem is he stopped recording cus he was pissed
@@static3479 damn even pekin got pissed? Was the match that bad?
@@static3479 well I’m sure the replay itself is still in his match history, that’s what I meant
The way he can do this in such a high elo is insane lmao
It’s NA my guy. Actual master tier players don’t play like this
@@samwilliams0901 They are actual master tier players
They're in the master tier
Which doesn't mean they're as good as master players from other regions
But considering they're in the top .5% of players I'd consider it PRETTY dang impressive
@@azeTrom17 no, they aren’t actually master tier, they are gold/plat with a master label. Did you look at that game and think “these players are pretty dang impressive”?
You aren't the one that decides when players are considered gold and when they're considered master. There's a tier system for it, and the people in that game were officially and objectively in NA's master tier. They are NOT in gold or plat, and ARE better than NA's gold and plat tier players.
What I'm guessing you're TRYING to say is that master tier is NA is equal in skill level to gold tier in other regions.
@@azeTrom17 objectively NA master tier, that’s an acceptable way of putting it :)
LMAO the gromp kill on draven, then the melee on kayn and you turning into aphelios's turrets at the end omg
oh and by the way kayn probably thought he would just one shot you but since you were a minion you just wouldnt take his passive's dmg and he wouldnt be able to ult either
That sequence is my favourite pekinwoof moment
"It's confused because minions don't have a crit animation"
And they never expected anyone to build crit Neeko...
28:01 gromp kill for the mental victory
28:53 least braindead kayn player (minion kill)
thx waited for a year for him to do that lol
20:54 that caster minion just escaped the matrix
20:55 im pretty sure that minion was another neeko
Or at least he thought he was lmao
HAHA! I love it.
Where is bro going 😂
Neeko inspired him to rebel
_They're defecting..._
Did Pekin get first blood?
Yes!
Fight started around 2:10
Win Strike: 3
streak*
*steak
stok#
Stroke*
*sty
28:09 Wtf a commenter pointed out that when I was Gromp my damage was magic??????? Or is this just visual, still wtf
I seriously thought this strat would flop. Minion disguising really screws with ppls heads lmfao! 10 yrs of confirmation bias on minions being minions. That Kayn was completely oblivious to you in that bot push, that's wild.
I've done the same thing sometimes where I see a minion moving out of place and just immediately assume it's bugging out without really thinking about it.
Good vid man!
I love this. Neeko rework is the best and worst thing ever. I hope they come out with more fun stuff like this instead of just boring balancing and champ releases.
Me and my partner always watch Pekin. The commentary is always informative, the games are fun. Always has a fantastic attitude. League TH-camrs/ twitch streamers like this don't come around often. And I am so glad when I googled non toxic league streamers your name came up. Please keep it up
I think Azir's first death was caused by the W > E buffer bug. If you have a soldier out already, and you buffer W into E somewhere else, the W input will get cancelled and the E will go off and just default to whatever soldier. This has happened to me so many times when I'm fighting and need to quickly run away or even just shield myself without comprising my position. It's gonna be a bug for another 15 years, I swear.
Yay, I was asking for ad neeko, really excited to watch this. Thank you!
i would love to see the lillia game on the second channel. If it isn't too much work just put some music over the gameplay. Another solution is making it a commentary were you explain your decisions. Anyways love the content
Me too! I love watching his Lillia mid games
even just commentating over the reply would be good... tbh i dont think he can make a bad video anyways
Agreed! Or even just putting some nice background music over it would be so chill and nice. Thanks for always uploading!
he said he stopped the recording halfway through because of frustration :( so even if he wanted to post it the video doesnt exist
@@NotStonedMusic oh i was not aware of this.
So Pekin, I recommend trying what I call "unhinged Ornn mid". I have only been trying it recently, and have only done 3 games so far with it, but have won every match, with 2 of those being zero deaths lol.
The runes I go are electrocute with cheap shot, taste of blood, and ultimate hunter, with the secondary runes being Sorcery with manaflow band and gathering storm, and little runes being attack speed, adaptive force, and health.
My summoner spells I typically go are flash and ignite, and my starting item is doran's blade. The build I have been trying (though I only get about half way through the build before the match ends) is a one-shot build with stormrazer, either armor or magic resist boots, stattik shiv, infinity edge, rapidfire cannon, and then the last one I haven't fully decided yet because I never get this far, but I was thinking either bloodthirster or prowlers claw.
The idea is that Ornn's q has a 110% ad ratio and is a good cs/poke tool to prepare for an all-in. Ornn's all-in is really good with this build because you can hit them with q, then dash to knock them up and immediately hit them with your w into brittle, which allows you to hit them with electrocute, brittle, and your energized auto while they are still stunned for most of that time. Also, Ornn can stay in lane longer than most other champs can because he can buy items from lane. It has been pretty fun so far playing this off-meta pick, so I would definitely recommend it.
12:10 tip: if you hitting a plated tower, attack it transformes into a melee champ in order to not get debuffed, you'll deal lots more damage
That lategame was absolutely hilarious.
everytime ... Neeko games always gets me laugh 🤣
That last death of Kayn (28:55) feel so inting because he was planing to ult on you, but he cannot ult you in minion form. Also melee minion form has a decent 1.25 AS so you was able to fight him.
For optimizing this strategy (without using the bug of the attaking ward disguise) you can get the disguise from the cannon minion in the mid lane whe it is hiting the tower. For some reason Riot decided that was necesary to buff the AS of that specific minion on that specific situation, and so you can clone its higth AS.
Typical riot's shitcode
Make it an off meta to grandmaster climb. I dont want this series to end soon :(
minion vs kayne at end was worth the whole video - funny!
28:55 Poor Kayn. Doesn't realize until it was too late
29:26
That's hilarious!
Aatrox pinging made me piss myself.
As a neeko otp, I love to see pekin neeko vids
yo Pekin, I know you probably won't, but I'd still like to request you upload the partial Lillia game on PW2, as I don't think there'd be any negative impact. Any video of you popping off is worth an upload imo, even without commentary. You could put some background music over it if you'd prefer that. Keep up the great work!
5:56 All these folks talking about how crazy this build is, and I'm sitting here in absolute shock never knowing that neeko's clone will copy your back animation and will stay for the entire duration of the back. I... had no idea this was a thing.
asking again for zoe support!!! the oblong walls make long sleeps very easy plus you can combo with miss fortune ult because aoe doesnt wake them up
alternatively kaisa jungle is a very fun one. clear is hard early until noonquiver and/or Q upgrade. you can start W for extra plasma or Q for pure damage
Neeko's tail is very close to a point of interest - Pekin
Considering how much Zoe you play I'm surprised there hasn't been an off-meta role for her yet. Maybe sup or jgl, I feel like that would be fun to see, just spamming bubbles for the everyone else.
Jungle doesn't really work as she is pretty squishy and her W doesn't work on jungle monsters.
He did a Zoe jungle video a while back just to show off how good he is at her. edit: he actually has two videos of Zoe jungle.
@@hottoast16 ye he did, i just meant that he hasn't done anything for this off meta climb, that's all
@@ranchonbread4905 When the jungle companions were originally released and they had op healing, he had done a Zoe jg. I don't think he's done it since the nerf to companions.
I would wager he probably has tried a Zoe game but because he's so damn good at her, it's likely they were stomps even in a supp/jg role.
if u want a fun video you should look at the game where he played zoe only using his mouse (had to manually click all her abilities)
I love when people get fooled by obvious Neeko minion. It shows how many people play this game on auto-pilot, it's so funny to me lmaooo
I'd love to see the lost Lilia game with post-commentary, you can afford to be extra analytical/descriptive when you don't have to focus on playing.
neeko is such a hilarious champ now lol. also it's such a shame the lillia video didn't work out, i love watching you play lillia :(
Heyy! I just went 18-2 as neeko adc earlier today and I open TH-cam to see pekinwoof doing the same
Hi, is the Volibear assassin mid video gonna come out before you finish the quest? I would love to see it :)
yo that kill on draven and kayn toward the end where just funny!
That Gromp kill was amazing. 🐸
Commentary over the Lilia vid would be awesome!!
Also, the dumb concept is that Fiora's W blocks EVERYTHING - autos, CC, ability damage. Nothing works when she Ws. And, TIL, her W slows attack speed when it doesn't stun (I thought it only slowed your movespeed). That's fucking stupid.
And we all know Riot is bad at coding - but Minion animations should default to their auto animation. Truthfully, every animation should have a default so there's never a time when something doesn't animate. Like minion "crit" animation should just be normal attack.
Another good video 👍
Something that's been bugging me: I don't understand why taking something with lifesteal really late is the meta. Lack of survivability seems like a mistake. I would think being able to recoup life after a skirmish without resetting would be really useful 🤷♂️
This was the funniest crit neeko ive seen yet
yep, you can be malz minions, yorick's, heimers, zyra's etc. It's really hilarious.
Yooo send senna mid! She can really fit your aggressive play style, pick grasp for more stacks and off-meta shenanigans.
could you play ap rell jungle if you get filled again? her ratios are pretty decent, her clear explodes once you get some AP, and you could probably go something like rocket belt to make your W feel better to use
the gromp and aphelios gun were funny af
28:00 LOL Gromp is so goofy
dont sleep on hail of blades rune when playing auto attack neeko. I take it when i go nashors first then rage blade and then build ap items. Apc neeko underrated asf
Pekin makes Master players look like the silvers I get on my team
Honestly Riot needs to watch this video
What if you do a vod commentary of the Lilia game? You have done that before right?
Also, please do Urgot mid/jgl/top! Use Urpog’s build: Black Cleaver - Radiant Virtue - Redemption - Sterak’s - Gargoyle
Also, I’m really enjoying the off-meta climb;)
In general I really appreciate your videos, you’re such a chill guy and your vibe is great.
I don't personally mind that the commentary wasn't captured for your Lilia game if you wanted to upload it to your second channel or something instead, or if you wanted to commentate over it instead.
Either or, I'm hella down to still watch that game.
30:59 Kayn vs Minion stamp
31:20 yeah, Caitlyn Kayn Fizz Vi etc... does not work on minion Neeko
Pekinwoof, the guy who popularized AP Zeri Mid in the West for a little while. Has not played it in his off-meta run so far... This does not feel right. 👍😛
Do you think you could do a voice over of the Lillia game? I among others would definitely still give it a view!
i think attack speed vel’koz might be fun now:) (no scaling, just funny looking)
I don't know if you still have any of that video but you can always clip them and do highlights off of it
this vid was so fun i love how they keep falling for it 😂
Commentate over the lillia vid! It would be awesome still :)
Its sad that you only actually killed as a minion once but its hard so it was still very funny
LMAO the second kill on azir 😂😂
gg to Minion_T200L0S56N0358 for slaying XUndeadxFrostyX
Scrolled through until I found someone who already made the same joke I was about to make. 😅
Shoulda just done a post-commentary on the lilia game, i like those just as much. Could also do a replay review as well. Also Skarner mid
The series is almost over but there’s still time for assassin Renekton mid
You could also do a VO for the lilia game.
Grab the replay for the Lilia game and record some voiceover as you go through it. Please would love to see it.
When ''emerald'' rank is added, will you continue the saga? its gonna be like an extra level
Neeko passive is buggy, I also noticed recently vs neeko that if she's low hp disguised as a minion, dark harvest "potential proc" vfx show on the minion lol
Hilarious. Peak Pekin content
I would love to see you going Over the game you poped off as lilia!!! !!!! Please do, liliya mid 25 Kills is instant click for me !
Bro decided to miss almost every e in game
This video is a perfect showcase of how overtuned neeko's kit is
this is so cursed, I love it
talk over the lillia game as you've done before. now im curious
Yayyy a pekin video
Now do a tier list of what you consider the most strong off meta
Idk if the ap Xin guy is here, but I will carry the request as well. AP Xin mid or jg would be epic.
could seraphine mid be considered off meta?
That's her secondary role. Main is apc.
If anything. AD stattick sera
What about old trusty Ap Warwick?
Wheres the new video Pekin chopchop
YOU ARE A MENACE.
minions have set auto attack speed, probably don't want to by any attack speed if possible.
Yeah that's what I was trying to do but there aren't that many AD crit items that don't have any attack speed
@@PekinWoof I was thinking something like Stormrazer, IE, Bloodthirster, Lord Doms, Swifties, Shieldbow
@@LeisurelyShtooping "Don't buy any attack speed" - immediately offers an item that has attack speed.
Also, it's "buy", not "by".
@@Dyanosis Collecter would work instead of stormrazer as well.
You do want to buy attack speed. 95% of the time, you'll spend as normal neeko. If you have no attack speed, good job, you've just created an imbalance of attack damage : attack speed in your build.
Man I love Neeko games!
Pekin can you please do a lethality Riven mid or top video? :) I think it would be super awesome
Runes at 6:31
I see that you tried the soraka
What are the runes??
poor kayn
Keep the offmeta climb to grand master plz plz
Rage Blade is bugged on Neeko
my goat🙏
Whaat is happening with that minion at 20:54 ? XD why is it going back?
I need that Lilia video so bad pls
For the Lillia game you could just commentate over the vod of the game, no?
This was amazing