I sit here the whole day looking for a good demo guide. I'm a beginner to this spec and all the other creators just rush the rotation down for people who already know it. Your slow step by step explanation helped me a lot. 10/10 Guide!
Awesome guide! Thank (: the only thing I would recommend is maybe popping in the skills you explain when you do so. Because of you I’m feeling pretty confident with my new warlock (:
This video was so helpful! So many other guides are written with the idea that you already know the basics of the class, and I absolutely do not, I only started playing WoW during Dragonflight. So to have someone go over not just information related to the current expansion, but also basics is really great
My biggest confusion was stat priority. I’m way too stacked with Vers because of listen to all other guides. Now I realise seeing you have 54% mastery I’m loosing a lot of damage. Thank you for this whole video.
Thanks for the detailed guide. I had no idea what I was doing and my damage was subpar but after watching this my damage has literally tripled because I had no idea how to play this class at all.
Demo BUGS: -Doom is only applying if you have more than 1 demonic core since the spell is checking for demonic core on hit -Impending Doom is not giving an imp on doom expiration -Foul mouth does not work at all/partially works. -Shadowtouched does not work at all/partially works -Houndmaster’s gambit does not work. -Improved demonic tactics do not work at all. -Demonic Brutality does not work at all.
Yo Vlox, wicked guide bro! Just a quick question with macroing trinkets etc. would it be safe to do this to demonic strength or do u need to use on-uses before tyrant?
I’m doing from 1mil-1.6mil overall in heroics with bad tanks. I think haste versa till 10% versa is huge for doom, which is my top dps, but I constantly sim my gear, and I’m at the point that every stat is 9 equivalency and int is 14.
I cannot seem to catch this anywhere, but why does the opener for Demo start with shadow bolt? Wouldn't it be better to start with Demonbolt to use the core generated from Power Siphon before combat? Also, wouldn't it be better to use Summon Vilefiend before combat instead of having to stop direct attacks to summon it after combat is engaged?
You don’t want to waste the cores prepull because you want them to ramp and summon imps faster once your big demons are out. Shadowbolt + soul strike from your felguard will get you to 5 shards on pull. Also, no you don’t want to use vilefiend prepull because once your vilefiend timer starts that’s basically how long you have left to ramp. So you are essentially allowing yourself less time to ramp by doing that which will result in less tyrant damage
Vilefiend before combat don't work either because Vilefiend wont start attacking your target unless you're already attacking it. Which then leads to as previously mentioned waste of uptime on your vilefiend.
Hey man, great video thanks. I learnt a few things from this - I've been playing demo lock for some time now and love it. I'm great on the AOE mythic rotation and i am getting there now with the single target. I struggle with raid boss damage a bit though. I am ilvl 594 now and at 21% haste with a flask. Just wondering, looking at your enchants and gems, when you got to a particular level, do you just gem and enchant for crit after that knowing that your haste is at 24%? Or would you recommend i focus crit a bit more at this point in my gear? My character name is bairóth on tarren mill which is an eu realm. If you wanted to take a look - thanks man!
Great guide, one question I was wondering after opener sometimes I find myself with dreadstalkers Up but vilefiend still 10 seconds away. Should I just spam dreadstalkers on CD or delay dogs for vilefiend?
I see, well that kinda sucks for like spread cleave fights on raid. Doesn’t change a whole lot for m+ imo, we were likely going to be playing soul harvester on the high end anyway
Only time you would use implosion on st is at the end of a damage amp, like the damage amp window on the first boss in mists for example, or if your imps will expire like how I explained in the video
Most of it is pretty much in the addon called elvui. The only other thing I’m using is from an addon called weakauras, which is what I’m using to track the timers on the imps
Demo is probably better for lower keys, once you get high enough Aff takes over completely. Does everything better outside of maybe on demand burst aoe, which isn't as relevant because stuff lives longer. Also demo pure single target with the m+ builds is better, but only slightly better and not enough to make up for the lower aoe
On aoe-packs. Should you use implosion while tyrant is up or should you wait? Like for example. All your cds are ready to go and you run into a big pack. Should u still ramp up with the big demons and tyrants or just focus on hand of guldans, demon bolts, dooms and implosions?
Good question..if you run into a pack with a large number of imps up and you can use dogs/vilefiend/felguard before they start to run out, basically a really fast ramp, then do that. If your imps will start to expire before you finish ramping then just implode immediately then start a normal ramp into tyrant
Awesome guide! Thank (: the only thing I would recommend is maybe popping in the skills you explain when you do so. Because of you I’m feeling pretty confident with my new warlock (:
I sit here the whole day looking for a good demo guide. I'm a beginner to this spec and all the other creators just rush the rotation down for people who already know it. Your slow step by step explanation helped me a lot. 10/10 Guide!
Awesome guide! Thank (: the only thing I would recommend is maybe popping in the skills you explain when you do so. Because of you I’m feeling pretty confident with my new warlock (:
This video was so helpful! So many other guides are written with the idea that you already know the basics of the class, and I absolutely do not, I only started playing WoW during Dragonflight. So to have someone go over not just information related to the current expansion, but also basics is really great
Really glad it helped! Thank you for watching
My biggest confusion was stat priority. I’m way too stacked with Vers because of listen to all other guides. Now I realise seeing you have 54% mastery I’m loosing a lot of damage. Thank you for this whole video.
great guide playing demo since SL S4, and learned somethings! hope your channel grows alot during TWW
Thanks for the detailed guide. I had no idea what I was doing and my damage was subpar but after watching this my damage has literally tripled because I had no idea how to play this class at all.
Lets go!!
Vlox to jest jednak KOKS!
Very good video, GJ!
Demo BUGS:
-Doom is only applying if you have more than 1 demonic core since the spell is checking for demonic core on hit
-Impending Doom is not giving an imp on doom expiration
-Foul mouth does not work at all/partially works.
-Shadowtouched does not work at all/partially works
-Houndmaster’s gambit does not work.
-Improved demonic tactics do not work at all.
-Demonic Brutality does not work at all.
Awesome guide. Thank you!
this was very helpfull and extremely detailed thanks. Can you name your addons? Is the demon timer from weak auras?
I’ll be posting all that in my discord channel. Also have a ui video uploaded on my channel where I basically go over everything I’m using on my ui
Amazing guide! What weakaura do you use to track skills?
Everything I use for addons is on my discord server
Thank you 🙏
another epic vid. thanks! amazing
Yo Vlox, wicked guide bro! Just a quick question with macroing trinkets etc. would it be safe to do this to demonic strength or do u need to use on-uses before tyrant?
Depends on trinket, usually if it has some delayed type of effect or travel time, etc. use it before
I’m doing from 1mil-1.6mil overall in heroics with bad tanks. I think haste versa till 10% versa is huge for doom, which is my top dps, but I constantly sim my gear, and I’m at the point that every stat is 9 equivalency and int is 14.
I cannot seem to catch this anywhere, but why does the opener for Demo start with shadow bolt? Wouldn't it be better to start with Demonbolt to use the core generated from Power Siphon before combat? Also, wouldn't it be better to use Summon Vilefiend before combat instead of having to stop direct attacks to summon it after combat is engaged?
You don’t want to waste the cores prepull because you want them to ramp and summon imps faster once your big demons are out. Shadowbolt + soul strike from your felguard will get you to 5 shards on pull. Also, no you don’t want to use vilefiend prepull because once your vilefiend timer starts that’s basically how long you have left to ramp. So you are essentially allowing yourself less time to ramp by doing that which will result in less tyrant damage
@@Vlox_Gaming That makes sense. Thank you for the reply to explain this.
Vilefiend before combat don't work either because Vilefiend wont start attacking your target unless you're already attacking it. Which then leads to as previously mentioned waste of uptime on your vilefiend.
Thanks for speaking like a human being
great guide. Please link the talents builds for Diabolist.
On my discord server
quick question, why summon the felguard in the rotation? Why not just when the dungeon starts summon him
There’s two felguards. One is permanent summon (main pet) and other is the talent grimore: felguard
Hey man, great video thanks. I learnt a few things from this - I've been playing demo lock for some time now and love it. I'm great on the AOE mythic rotation and i am getting there now with the single target. I struggle with raid boss damage a bit though. I am ilvl 594 now and at 21% haste with a flask. Just wondering, looking at your enchants and gems, when you got to a particular level, do you just gem and enchant for crit after that knowing that your haste is at 24%? Or would you recommend i focus crit a bit more at this point in my gear? My character name is bairóth on tarren mill which is an eu realm. If you wanted to take a look - thanks man!
Sim your character, gives you the most the accurate idea of how to improve your character’s maximum damage capabilities
May I know which WA you are using?
I like it could track the remaining time of all minions
The demon tracker is part of elvui
Great guide, one question I was wondering after opener sometimes I find myself with dreadstalkers Up but vilefiend still 10 seconds away. Should I just spam dreadstalkers on CD or delay dogs for vilefiend?
Dogs on cd always unless stuff will literally die as you send them
Which is the better Hero talents profile, whats the dps differences for m+ and raids
Diabolist is simming better for me in all scenarios pretty much
Any opinion on how mobility feels with core procs? And maybe how that feels vs Aff mobility?
Less cores now so less mobility. Between aff and demo mobility is about the same, minus drain soul aff which is kinda immobile on soul harvester
Hey, with how many imps u wanna use implosion? at least 6?
6 is like the very low end yea, but you want to try and get as many as you can before your first set expires
Will there be any destro guide coming? And thoughts on the wither nerf?
Destro guide is coming yea…what wither nerf though?
@@Vlox_Gaming It got a stealth change to the stack gain icd last night, hopefully be reverted
I see, well that kinda sucks for like spread cleave fights on raid. Doesn’t change a whole lot for m+ imo, we were likely going to be playing soul harvester on the high end anyway
It’s most likely a bug and not actually a need
Nerf**
is there any info here about pvp btw? I'm watching rn and I do wanna do m+ this year but I also am spending a lot of time on wpvp
Rotationally some of it could apply to pvp sure but I don’t pvp that much in wow
@@Vlox_Gaming Ty :) it's hard to get pvp info because demo just isn't that popular for most formats
I assume we never want to use implosion in ST scenarios even though we have the talent?
Only time you would use implosion on st is at the end of a damage amp, like the damage amp window on the first boss in mists for example, or if your imps will expire like how I explained in the video
Do i need to tab target?:(
With doom you need to spread yes
Can someone please tell me what he is using to see his cooldowns and timers like that on screen? new player here and still trying to navigate add ons
Most of it is pretty much in the addon called elvui. The only other thing I’m using is from an addon called weakauras, which is what I’m using to track the timers on the imps
Ty for the video
Aff vs Demo for M+?
Demo is probably better for lower keys, once you get high enough Aff takes over completely. Does everything better outside of maybe on demand burst aoe, which isn't as relevant because stuff lives longer. Also demo pure single target with the m+ builds is better, but only slightly better and not enough to make up for the lower aoe
Ty so much
On aoe-packs. Should you use implosion while tyrant is up or should you wait? Like for example. All your cds are ready to go and you run into a big pack. Should u still ramp up with the big demons and tyrants or just focus on hand of guldans, demon bolts, dooms and implosions?
Good question..if you run into a pack with a large number of imps up and you can use dogs/vilefiend/felguard before they start to run out, basically a really fast ramp, then do that. If your imps will start to expire before you finish ramping then just implode immediately then start a normal ramp into tyrant
Not sure if i want to play affliction or demonology but this looks fun...
They are both very fun right now, aff is my fave for sure though
can u help me get title.
M+ aint even available yet brother
I wish there was no imposion build kek
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Awesome guide! Thank (: the only thing I would recommend is maybe popping in the skills you explain when you do so. Because of you I’m feeling pretty confident with my new warlock (: