Honestly you’re not wrong, perfectly summed it up. I have a clean 1989 Si 4WS that’s nothing special aside from 150lb lighter and 30hp more than stock, and it’s a dream. Looks greats, sounds great, feels great, pulls hard, handles like a dream, and makes driving to and from work the best part of my day. Such a wonderful car for a Honda or sporting enthusiast.
Too much competition. Skylines, supras, civics, evos. I can keep going. The great thing about Preludes is that not a lot of people have them ao when you show up with nice looking prelude people will turn their heads.
@whatta7793 of course, drivetrain doesn't determine anything. Honda has to compete with all the automakers. Remember they have their NSX and S2000 as flagship cars. And yes even the Prelude S, Civic R and Inter R had to go against those cars. Weird I know but watch more hot version.
I think if I ever built a Honda it would be like this. I test drove a 1994 VTEC prelude back in the day and it feels so much more racy than any gen Civic.
Its why i went with a prelude over all the other popular chasis (civics, integras, rsx) i saw a prelude owner continually gap others at the street race meets.
@@lukatrdina5108the 4th generation prelude vtec was released in 1991, and was the fastest vehicle from Honda/Acura other then the nsx until 2000 when the s2000 was released… the 5th gen prelude was heavier than the 4th gen, with worse alignment/tires, and the same engine… ruined the prelude namesake
Glad I kept mine, people break their necks at the sight. I'm one of the few left in Canada, we are one of the rarest cars on the road. Seeing a car from the 1990s in Canada is an extremely rare sight, I go a full year NEVER seeing a car older than 2005 because our country salts our roads and destroys ALL cars. I turn down $10,000 offers quite often, however I hear in USA since they have infinite cars and infinite rust free cars their market is littered. Grab them while you still can.
the main issue for me is in california smog compliance...means id have to get 2 blocks and convert all the complaint sensors or drop in a dummy/stock engine...and swap the h22 back in.....which is just not gonna happen....and i already see a slew of swapped preludes in my area that cant or wont even be smog capable....theyre essentially trying to sell them out of state.
jdm h22 manual prelude weighs 1240-1280kg depending on years. not heavy compared to its direct competitors like the eclipse, mx6 etc. civic or integra are not in the preludes class.
The H22 is underpowered stock, the na-hp/dollar is the best on honda chassis i guess. the K24 has same potential but is more expensive to start with. The JUN H22 is not that special at all. You need cams (Jun are like 1400$, crower just the half price) and high compression. The cheap way is to use Type R parts (H22A7) and modify them. Example R piston+head milling = 12:1 like the JUN for 1/4 money. Type R Valvetrain is not as revable as the JUN but still a good choice. R Cams are to weak so better get crower stage 3. AEM ECU and a replika tri y header with selfmade exhaust. R Intake Manifold with made in China Throthle Body and you have at least 250hp. maybe reach almost 270. I think that can be done with 2k€. If you go all JUN, its more like 4k€. (personally think the jun header sucks) I think the quality of JUN parts is the best you can get, but there are better headers and iam sure the cam could be even more high rpm. (ppl are afraid of long stroke) Also, you can make the H22 way more powerful, Honda hat a decreased sized H22 (F20B) in the JTCC with ~300hp. Reverse Head and such fun mods..as a poor student I put on a rebuild Type R Head and milled it 0,9mm. So iam 10,7:1. Missing R pistions for 12:1 and new injectors, with a 70mm TB I wanna reach 230hp (right now i guess 205-210)
No way on the crower cams, if you want big NA power with the H without doing things like roller rocker conversion then get the Skunk2 Pro series. AEM is WAY over kill for this as well, a Hondata S3000 works great and is the most widely used tuning solution for Honda's. JUN is also using a modified Euro R manifold which can be bought with modifications made to your liking for around $350.
How is the AEM "overkill" ? its more expensive. I personally think its worth it. You could just chip a P28 for teh least money but a used AEM EMS is the best deal. Crowers are more aggressive then most of the Skunk.. Not sure about the JUN Intake Manifold, but for 300+ HP ITBs are needed anyway. comes great with reverse head :P
It was largely because of their displacement tax, which made the 2.2 liter engined car too expensive to justify the car when other offerings like the Integra and Civic could provide just as much relative fun (maybe more in some cases, like the Type R's) with less displacement (1.8 or less). And here in the US, they didn't see that well in the end because it's position in Honda's offerings weren't very clear when there was a roomier Accord coupe, etc. I do hope they bring the Prelude back, especially if they did it to honor Ayrton Senna (who they used back when the 4G came out).
i mean the only reason to own a type r is to say you have a type r...plenty of people have taken GSR heads or b16 heads an plopped them on the b20 over the years to equate to that 200 range of HP the b18c5 provides....thats what honda fanbois did before the k series. PPL that own type r integras are like 9/10 not driving them.
Wholeheartedly agree but Honda's direction back then was compact affordable maintenance Still the Prelude was always the test mule to introduce new things, that new thing should have been RWD
@@JDMBOI7 Especially considering they already had plenty of FWD cars...civic, accord, integra etc....if the 'lude was RWD it would be equally praised as the skylines and other popular JDM drift car...the prelude should be that for honda but it aint.
but the FF platform/prelude wouldnt have pushed Honda to make the SH model XD. And that atts development is clearly the saving grace of the current NSX XD. Which should also have been RWD......oh honda
It'll be a sound competitor to the Nissan S platform and Honda's test bed before making the S2K. Plus a targa top would be nice. A longitudinal H22 would be interesting.
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Preludes are so amazing. If you want a race car or a daily driver that feels like a race car, this is for you.
you sound like a good genuine salesman bro. done deal!
@@polluxtoda he speaks the truth. I love my 5th Gen. Dropped an inch and a half, sits low and wide. Real sports car feel. Great car
Integra?
@@beyaself2020 no. Honda Prelude
Honestly you’re not wrong, perfectly summed it up. I have a clean 1989 Si 4WS that’s nothing special aside from 150lb lighter and 30hp more than stock, and it’s a dream. Looks greats, sounds great, feels great, pulls hard, handles like a dream, and makes driving to and from work the best part of my day. Such a wonderful car for a Honda or sporting enthusiast.
I actually prefer your subtitles, over the official BMI subtitles. Thanks again Miroshi!
Thanks.
Still one of the best Honda builts, so unique, I still don't get it why Preludes are so underrated cars.
Too much competition. Skylines, supras, civics, evos. I can keep going. The great thing about Preludes is that not a lot of people have them ao when you show up with nice looking prelude people will turn their heads.
@@crismartinez1642 skylines, supras, evos, are Prelude's competition? What? You're listing AWD and RWD vehicles that are competition to a FWD Honda?
@whatta7793 of course, drivetrain doesn't determine anything. Honda has to compete with all the automakers. Remember they have their NSX and S2000 as flagship cars. And yes even the Prelude S, Civic R and Inter R had to go against those cars. Weird I know but watch more hot version.
Another Honda legend Car!!!
I think if I ever built a Honda it would be like this. I test drove a 1994 VTEC prelude back in the day and it feels so much more racy than any gen Civic.
and that's why people like the h22
The 4th gen Preludes were the fastest Hondas next to the NSX back in its day, at least here in the US.
Its why i went with a prelude over all the other popular chasis (civics, integras, rsx) i saw a prelude owner continually gap others at the street race meets.
I did not know that. Thanks
You forgot the s2000
@@lukatrdina5108the 4th generation prelude vtec was released in 1991, and was the fastest vehicle from Honda/Acura other then the nsx until 2000 when the s2000 was released… the 5th gen prelude was heavier than the 4th gen, with worse alignment/tires, and the same engine… ruined the prelude namesake
That's one awesome prelude!! nice job jun auto
front grille look so cool such inspiration...this the same cars that they blast in wangan highway...
😍 this was my first ever car I loved it I miss it now
Glad I kept mine, people break their necks at the sight. I'm one of the few left in Canada, we are one of the rarest cars on the road. Seeing a car from the 1990s in Canada is an extremely rare sight, I go a full year NEVER seeing a car older than 2005 because our country salts our roads and destroys ALL cars. I turn down $10,000 offers quite often, however I hear in USA since they have infinite cars and infinite rust free cars their market is littered. Grab them while you still can.
the main issue for me is in california smog compliance...means id have to get 2 blocks and convert all the complaint sensors or drop in a dummy/stock engine...and swap the h22 back in.....which is just not gonna happen....and i already see a slew of swapped preludes in my area that cant or wont even be smog capable....theyre essentially trying to sell them out of state.
また乗りたくなってしまった1台！
Love my 4th gen
i used to have the 4th gen prelude
H22A, AR70 Turbo with haltech e6x ecu
was it awesome?
Lol, I love the crazy idea of an S2000 with a H22-swap.... :D
I love my Prelude with F20C swap :)
@@endless_touge I would love to see my S2K with this H22 engine swap.
I would pay a fortune for this car. Wish they sold it to europe
They did here in Switzerland
I really like this TV show from the clips I've seen. What's the name of it?
anyone wonder where this prelude is today? I must have it.
NotAsian you're not asian. why do you want this asian car?
d cp I have a 95 vtec prelude now with tan interior im pretty happy with it regardless of my nationality!
Probably sitting in a jun museum/shop like spoon does their cars
Luds lovers over here ?
Офигенный, я бы купил такой) Жаль живых их мало
H22.......🇨🇦👍🏻
Did you guys ever make a black R34 gt 1998 model with 720hp? There is one for sale in Australia with 12000kms on it saying it's been tuned by you guys
Dude, 270hp is nothing for an H22. H22's can make well over 300hp on 93 octane. Hit me up if you want more info. I'll show you my build.
funny the s2000 did get 2.2 liter engine a few years later, lolz doridori is psychic
They should have named the last edition S2200 lol
Wasn't the 2.2 only in the US, though? The rest of the world got stuck with the 2.0 even in the later years.
Love this one
Its weird how they always say Prelude is heavy. a BB1 is 1305kg. Jun one without AC would be probably less then 1200
yeah, but civic 5 coupe weights 1000kg ;P prelude is heavy
AC doesn't weigh 100kg lol.
jdm h22 manual prelude weighs 1240-1280kg depending on years. not heavy compared to its direct competitors like the eclipse, mx6 etc. civic or integra are not in the preludes class.
"Oohw...OOOEEWWHH !" when opening the hood👍🏻🏁🇯🇵
Damn now I really miss my 94 VTEC
anyone know the weight?
How much would it cost to take the prelude to 270hp?
2-3k€ if u do the work yourself
TheHondaTuner Just that? That's not much at all..for NA
The H22 is underpowered stock, the na-hp/dollar is the best on honda chassis i guess. the K24 has same potential but is more expensive to start with. The JUN H22 is not that special at all. You need cams (Jun are like 1400$, crower just the half price) and high compression. The cheap way is to use Type R parts (H22A7) and modify them. Example R piston+head milling = 12:1 like the JUN for 1/4 money. Type R Valvetrain is not as revable as the JUN but still a good choice. R Cams are to weak so better get crower stage 3. AEM ECU and a replika tri y header with selfmade exhaust. R Intake Manifold with made in China Throthle Body and you have at least 250hp. maybe reach almost 270. I think that can be done with 2k€. If you go all JUN, its more like 4k€. (personally think the jun header sucks) I think the quality of JUN parts is the best you can get, but there are better headers and iam sure the cam could be even more high rpm. (ppl are afraid of long stroke) Also, you can make the H22 way more powerful, Honda hat a decreased sized H22 (F20B) in the JTCC with ~300hp. Reverse Head and such fun mods..as a poor student I put on a rebuild Type R Head and milled it 0,9mm. So iam 10,7:1. Missing R pistions for 12:1 and new injectors, with a 70mm TB I wanna reach 230hp (right now i guess 205-210)
No way on the crower cams, if you want big NA power with the H without doing things like roller rocker conversion then get the Skunk2 Pro series. AEM is WAY over kill for this as well, a Hondata S3000 works great and is the most widely used tuning solution for Honda's. JUN is also using a modified Euro R manifold which can be bought with modifications made to your liking for around $350.
How is the AEM "overkill" ? its more expensive. I personally think its worth it. You could just chip a P28 for teh least money but a used AEM EMS is the best deal. Crowers are more aggressive then most of the Skunk.. Not sure about the JUN Intake Manifold, but for 300+ HP ITBs are needed anyway. comes great with reverse head :P
If Honda originally released the 4th gen RWD with a North South 22 we could have seen more Honda in the drift scene
I want 4th gen
Sell that bland 5g and buy one. ;)
Me to T^T
Kidding-
I want my dads old 4th gen to have not hit a deer and left to sit in the garage
A good comment if any was said, they should sell the engine back to Honda!
Огонь ещё и жёлтая ❤️🇺🇦🤗
What’s an h22c? Can’t find any solid answers
0:40,llol
@@ZaibatsuCorporationx yeah I saw that what does it come out of originally. If it says in Japanese then idk what the fuck It says
I was thinking you know how the new type r is k20c and is direct fuel injected maby that c means the same
brilliant
4500回転でVTEC入って楽しい車だったなー、ターボ車には追いつけなかったゲド
I miss my 93 si 😢
hahah he says the engine is too good for a prelude!
Damn im going to buy h22z1 with p2t4 trans but God what is this h22c
Those mom jeans is wild
i have always had the impression that japan really does not like the prelude at all
lucas arteta me too. Which is why they aggresively sold em in the us. Theyre everywhere here.
Where do you live then? Cause here in the Houston area I only see 2 or 3 for sell on craigslist
It was largely because of their displacement tax, which made the 2.2 liter engined car too expensive to justify the car when other offerings like the Integra and Civic could provide just as much relative fun (maybe more in some cases, like the Type R's) with less displacement (1.8 or less).
And here in the US, they didn't see that well in the end because it's position in Honda's offerings weren't very clear when there was a roomier Accord coupe, etc.
I do hope they bring the Prelude back, especially if they did it to honor Ayrton Senna (who they used back when the 4G came out).
Integra is so slow on this track compared to this. Still costs double and Honda fanboys are shitting their pants for itr
i mean the only reason to own a type r is to say you have a type r...plenty of people have taken GSR heads or b16 heads an plopped them on the b20 over the years to equate to that 200 range of HP the b18c5 provides....thats what honda fanbois did before the k series. PPL that own type r integras are like 9/10 not driving them.
@@anhiirr hilarious! "Not driving them"
Cars pretty cool, who IS that model?
Yes, I have yellow fever....LOL
Andrew Swink shut the fuck up bitch
1:52 浮いてる！！
Kayak artis nganu umbrelane
No where near 270.
Crank hp obviously
hope she sees this comment too
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The prelude should have been an FR.
Wholeheartedly agree but Honda's direction back then was compact affordable maintenance
Still the Prelude was always the test mule to introduce new things, that new thing should have been RWD
A-TA VA
やっぱり、今見るとボディがぐにゃぐにゃですね。
HA-DA-TA
The prelude should've been RWD
whole heartedly agree. I dream of doing a rwd conversion on my prelude, either with a built h22 or an f20c swap.
@@JDMBOI7 Especially considering they already had plenty of FWD cars...civic, accord, integra etc....if the 'lude was RWD it would be equally praised as the skylines and other popular JDM drift car...the prelude should be that for honda but it aint.
but the FF platform/prelude wouldnt have pushed Honda to make the SH model XD. And that atts development is clearly the saving grace of the current NSX XD. Which should also have been RWD......oh honda
It'll be a sound competitor to the Nissan S platform and Honda's test bed before making the S2K. Plus a targa top would be nice. A longitudinal H22 would be interesting.
How did they get 270hp Haha what's the secret
i want dat jun valve tho
dude, your steering wheel, its on wrong side
h22cなんてあったのか！？