Love plays a pretty major part in both games, so it makes sense that you'd see so many heart shaped objects. Love is also a major theme in the mother games.
Sans is a skeleton who's main color is blue, has some sort of relation to ice/snow (lives in a snowy region) and uses a cannon of sorts to attack you. Bonechill is a skeleton who's main color is blue, has some sort of relation to ice/snow (ice powers) and uses a cannon of sorts to attack you.
whenever i see posts about describing your favorite video as poorly as possible, i always describe the plot of super paper mario (which is my favorite video game) as vaguely as i can, such that it sounds like undertale's plot. also it's been nine years, i CANNOT have been the ONLY one to have noticed how similar sammer's kingdom and finale are melodically since then!
Tippi and Flowey also share some similarities, with them both "dying" and being reincarnated into some other form. Asriel's dust was spread across the golden flowers which upon being injected with Determination, turned into Flowey, while Tippi was banished, and found gravely injured by Merlon, who turned her into a Pixl.
The similarities make sense to me. Undertale's battle system was inspired by another Mario RPG series, Mario & Luigi. Toby's a person with a strong fondness for RPGs who seemingly grew up with Nintendo consoles, so, imo, there's like zero chance he hasn't played at least one Paper Mario game. I've seen someone compare Undertale's writing to TTYD as well, UTDR just kinda has that goofy Mario RPG tone mixed with some internet culture.
0:27 "It's a tale" Me : (don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it) Me : AN UNDERTALE
great video! as someone who loves both games i found the similarity between of them so interesting like they are both storys of love,sacrifice and moving on from your mistakes they mean so much to me (on a other note epic mickey has also a lot of similarity to undertale i mean he falls in a world where people need his heart to get out and he also decide who lives and who dies lol )
I remember YEARS ago there was either this Google Plus or TH-cam community post with a pic of Bowser, the Mario Bros, and the hearts, and someone in the comments was like "UNDERTALE!!!
Interesting how they actually are so similar, as Undertale and Super Paper Mario have been pretty much the only two video games I've actually enjoyed and gotten into. I've played them multiple times, and still love them.
Literally I remember talking about this so many years ago about how these two games are literally the same, it’s funny to see this topic talked about again
All of the Mario rpgs seemed to have influenced undertale and Deltarune in some way. Jevil and Dimentio are purple jesters so obsessed with chaos they would kill their friends for it. Spamton and fawful are very similar. Muffet and Mimi are both spider girls. Queen and princess shroob both have the same flying throne. The combat system in Deltarune is very reminiciant of Mario & Luigi. Shadow Queen and gaster have a similar vibe I could go on and on about this for days
If knight is who I think it will be, that will be a funny paralell with Mario and Luigi Brothership even if the knight probably was came up with before.
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 It's funny because Cozzette is the reason I believe I know exactly who the knight will be. And to think of that, the month of december is uponus.
12:52 The difference is that Alphys wants to help you and you're doing a favor for Undyne while Francis kidnaps Tippi, even renames her and tries to GET with Peach. He even says that you're trying to steal "Francine" away from him.
one, i want to say that starting with sans when listing the characters as they stand in the final scene absolutely tricked me into thinking you meant "sans" as in "without" until you continued to list characters who were very clearly present two, i always liked to imagine the pure hearts as representative of different forms of love rather than necessarily specific traits. like, in luvbi's case, it would be representative of familial love!! three, you're so right and the similarities to something as widely loved as undertale are honestly why i continue to say super paper mario was ahead of its time. ooh girl if you released in 2015 the public would've loved you
“Let’s destroy these useless worlds, and move on to a perfect one” -Dimentio,….Chara,…both of them I don’t know, I find similarities between the smiling demons.
Did you bring up these similarities in a previous video? I remember thinking about it in the past, but I can't remember if I noticed the similarities on my own or if you were the one to spur such thoughts. Either way it is quite curious how many passing similarities there are between these beloved games. Perhaps it speaks to what we find interesting in media.
@@LB_ Yeah, the weird thing is it would be sort of surprising if Toby Fox played it. I seem to remember it being said somewhere that he never actually got the Wii.
You’ve heard of Adventures where the first friendly people you meet’s names are puns on words that provide information of some kind, who have at some point been in a relationship with who seems to be the final boss, but they’re actually only the penultimate bosses, as some normal lookin guy yoinks the powerful heart(s) and turns into a monstrosity and begins kicking your ass up until numerous hearts of various different colors surround it, making it vulnerable. Both adventures include a Final boss who yoinks at least one of your friends in order to become their strongest. There’s also spider girls and nerdy lizards who watch anime and have robots But get ready for An adventure where the the main protagonist is pretty silent and wields a knife and used to be in a small group of friends that included at least two sets of siblings, of which said group had a little sibling within it who’s older brother, who’s away at college, has their side of their shared room decorated with many awards whilst the little sibling has hardly any, and said friend group fell apart after the older sister within the group isn’t around anymore, eventually leading into the events of the game where you swap between the entirely real world and some sort of different world that takes inspiration from real things/characters for its characters, where the main protagonist travels alongside their friends who’s skin and hair are not their regular colors and they wear different clothing. (By the way if there are any similarities i failed to mention in the Undertale/spm section of my comment, that’s because I didn’t watch the video.)
Oh, yeah, it would've been nice for completeness' sake. It's just that I've already explained and talked about Undertale a lot before, so I felt it a little bit redundant. Nice to know your feedback though!
I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY- Undertale leans more into player choice and meta-commentary on video game mechanics, but both games have similar tones, themes, and senses of humor. SPM was one of my earliest, formative RPGs, so it makes sense why Undertale grabbed me in the same way. Also. It's Deltarune, but. Spamton G Spamton became my favorite fictional character overnight, and when I realized that he shared the same charismatic trickster archetype as Dimentio, my all-time favorite villain, even down to betraying the main character for a heart-shaped object of unlimited power, I have never recovered. Curse my affinity for mages and/or merchants who will suddenly but inevitably betray me...
Count Bleck is more resigned & feels like it MUST happen, he doesn't like it near the end but he feels like there's nothing he can do (his plot is way eviler than Asgore's I'll give you that)
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Super Dementio: NOOO! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME!
The seven human Luvbis:
@@CR1MSONACE That’s true… didn’t think about it that way!
This joke KILLED ME
The seven pure hearts:
Wait a dang minute…I KNEW Undertale’s story seemed familiar
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Love plays a pretty major part in both games, so it makes sense that you'd see so many heart shaped objects. Love is also a major theme in the mother games.
AND both games make us want to f#$%ing cry... no, just me? Anyone?
Sans is Bonechill theory
I guess you could say it's Bone Chilling!?
Bing chilling!
Sans is a skeleton who's main color is blue, has some sort of relation to ice/snow (lives in a snowy region) and uses a cannon of sorts to attack you.
Bonechill is a skeleton who's main color is blue, has some sort of relation to ice/snow (ice powers) and uses a cannon of sorts to attack you.
@@Chib9 I guess Bonechill's head could be seen as a similar shape to a Gaster Blaster...? Kinda?
Then is Papyrus Cortez from TTYD?
Bonechill is the easiest boss and Sans is the hardest
12:36 I argue that Mimi has also "some" similarities to Mettaton (can transform, has one "invincible form" and does "in a way" a gameshow)
i dont think mimi is the one who does the gameshow
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques that's why I wrote "in a way" because she participate in it :)
@@superluigi6423 oh ok, i thought you said she set it up
Both of them are also robots (kinda).
Am I the only one who sees similarities between designs of King's castle in Deltarune and Count Bleck's castle?
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
@@Victini7472Oh, you're not, dw😅
Nope.
I mean Toby is a vg fantast lie Sakurai so ofcourse he's played Paper Mario. XD
That's 100% an insparation
I would not be surprised if it’s intentional
whenever i see posts about describing your favorite video as poorly as possible, i always describe the plot of super paper mario (which is my favorite video game) as vaguely as i can, such that it sounds like undertale's plot.
also it's been nine years, i CANNOT have been the ONLY one to have noticed how similar sammer's kingdom and finale are melodically since then!
Never played paper Mario, but i can see his point.
Ooooooooohhhhh
Story of Super Paper Mario
What have you done
I fell from the void
2D or 3D world?
Pixels, Love stories
This is my *Super Paper Mario*
Gotta go and see
Bowser, he's got peach
But Count Bleck appears
This is my *Super Paper Mario*
@@Sapphirephoenix-mf1lz
I fell into a town named Flipside
I faced a good wizard who is on my side
Gives a Pure Heart
Wants me savin’ time to start
@@jasonfakename4851
he tells me to go find some more pure hearts
I find a pixl after I depart
So many more
Never seen so much lore
that one relaxalax joke but as a full serious video? SIGN ME UP!
THAT'S WHAT I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OMG
that's what I thought too lmao
Tippi and Flowey also share some similarities, with them both "dying" and being reincarnated into some other form. Asriel's dust was spread across the golden flowers which upon being injected with Determination, turned into Flowey, while Tippi was banished, and found gravely injured by Merlon, who turned her into a Pixl.
Only difference is how existentialy terrifying Flowery is. 😂
I noticed many of the similarities before, so I'm really glad someone made a video about it!
The similarities make sense to me. Undertale's battle system was inspired by another Mario RPG series, Mario & Luigi. Toby's a person with a strong fondness for RPGs who seemingly grew up with Nintendo consoles, so, imo, there's like zero chance he hasn't played at least one Paper Mario game. I've seen someone compare Undertale's writing to TTYD as well, UTDR just kinda has that goofy Mario RPG tone mixed with some internet culture.
I notice that undertale takes a lot of inspiration from Mario rpgs. I mostly noticed the similarities to superstar saga, but this makes way more sense
Can you be more specific please? I haven't played the Mario RPGs in years. ( I swear I'm not a bot )😅
@@Tyler-q3k Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga.
@CR1MSONACE ok, maybe I'll check it out again.
0:27
"It's a tale"
Me : (don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it)
Me : AN UNDERTALE
Absolute cinema
Deltarune be like
Gaster->Dimentio
The Roaring Knight->Count Bleck
Chaos King->O'Chunks
dimentio is flowey
There’s a meme from a while back that sums this up perfectly, ever since then I’ve wanted someone to take a deep dive into the subject
great video! as someone who loves both games i found the similarity between of them so
interesting like they are both storys of love,sacrifice and moving on from your mistakes they mean so much to me (on a other note epic mickey has also a lot of similarity to undertale i mean he falls in a world where people need his heart to get out and he also decide who lives and who dies lol )
I remember YEARS ago there was either this Google Plus or TH-cam community post with a pic of Bowser, the Mario Bros, and the hearts, and someone in the comments was like "UNDERTALE!!!
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE THIS IVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR YEARSSS
Interesting how they actually are so similar, as Undertale and Super Paper Mario have been pretty much the only two video games I've actually enjoyed and gotten into. I've played them multiple times, and still love them.
"Yeah, Let Forget This Game Ever Happened" - Relaxalax Before Hammering The Super Paper Mario Box, The Mario Game They Wanted You to Forget About
As a huuuge fan of both SPM and Undertale, ty for this
I think this video explains why I love these 2 games so much :3
Tbh it feels like Toby was inspired by the Mario RPGs in general
he was, hed admitted to it
@ Yeah, I could tell
Finally someone points this out! I remember playing both games as a kid and noticing so many parallels
Literally I remember talking about this so many years ago about how these two games are literally the same, it’s funny to see this topic talked about again
OMG! I ALWAYS TOLD TO MYSELF WHY UNDERTALE AND SUPER PAPER MARIO GAVE ME THE EXAT SAME FEELING. SEEING A VIDEO LIKE THIS ONE MADE ME GO CRAZY!!❤😂
that is correct, this is why i love undertale
All of the Mario rpgs seemed to have influenced undertale and Deltarune in some way. Jevil and Dimentio are purple jesters so obsessed with chaos they would kill their friends for it. Spamton and fawful are very similar. Muffet and Mimi are both spider girls. Queen and princess shroob both have the same flying throne. The combat system in Deltarune is very reminiciant of Mario & Luigi. Shadow Queen and gaster have a similar vibe I could go on and on about this for days
If knight is who I think it will be, that will be a funny paralell with Mario and Luigi Brothership even if the knight probably was came up with before.
@@Arcanist_TheCozette moment
This is funny because a Mario RPG is actually one of the main reason I'm frontrunning a certain knight candidate
IYKYK.
Could you please explain I apparently do not know lol
@@rayman2902 Have you played Mario and Luigi Brothership?
@@Arcanist_TheI have. I wonder if the Knight would be some mentor character, like cozette from Brothership.
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 It's funny because Cozzette is the reason I believe I know exactly who the knight will be.
And to think of that, the month of december is uponus.
@@Arcanist_Thethe only mentor I can think of is ralsei
Thanks RelaxAlax for making that joke 7 years ago
Super Paper Mother 3
(tale)
Woah! That's some deep analysis !
This is why Super Paper Mario is the best Paper Mario game
Maybe that's why Super Paper Mario and Undertale are my two favorite games.
Of all time?
@NickMario1
Probably yeah.
More into thousand year door.
Both games have songs called memory
I pray that nobody thinks of making a “Super Paper Mario” Undertale AU
12:52 The difference is that Alphys wants to help you and you're doing a favor for Undyne while Francis kidnaps Tippi, even renames her and tries to GET with Peach. He even says that you're trying to steal "Francine" away from him.
12:39 They also love money. Muffit loves Gold and Mimi loves Rubies. That's also another thing about them.
one, i want to say that starting with sans when listing the characters as they stand in the final scene absolutely tricked me into thinking you meant "sans" as in "without" until you continued to list characters who were very clearly present
two, i always liked to imagine the pure hearts as representative of different forms of love rather than necessarily specific traits. like, in luvbi's case, it would be representative of familial love!!
three, you're so right and the similarities to something as widely loved as undertale are honestly why i continue to say super paper mario was ahead of its time. ooh girl if you released in 2015 the public would've loved you
I feel like relax alax made a video oddly similar to this
“Let’s destroy these useless worlds, and move on to a perfect one”
-Dimentio,….Chara,…both of them I don’t know, I find similarities between the smiling demons.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS NOW!
i headcannons gaster design to be simillar to count blecks tbh
Undertale is just a gay super paper mario then
THANK YOU‼️‼️ IVE BEEN SAYING THIS
yeah? that just clicked?
Did you bring up these similarities in a previous video? I remember thinking about it in the past, but I can't remember if I noticed the similarities on my own or if you were the one to spur such thoughts. Either way it is quite curious how many passing similarities there are between these beloved games. Perhaps it speaks to what we find interesting in media.
@@LB_ Yeah, the weird thing is it would be sort of surprising if Toby Fox played it. I seem to remember it being said somewhere that he never actually got the Wii.
@@LB_ And yeah, I did mention that I might make a video on it.
@@DetectiveMar I mean, emulation DOES exist, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't SUPER financially secure when making the game.
You’ve heard of
Adventures where the first friendly people you meet’s names are puns on words that provide information of some kind, who have at some point been in a relationship with who seems to be the final boss, but they’re actually only the penultimate bosses, as some normal lookin guy yoinks the powerful heart(s) and turns into a monstrosity and begins kicking your ass up until numerous hearts of various different colors surround it, making it vulnerable. Both adventures include a Final boss who yoinks at least one of your friends in order to become their strongest. There’s also spider girls and nerdy lizards who watch anime and have robots
But get ready for
An adventure where the the main protagonist is pretty silent and wields a knife and used to be in a small group of friends that included at least two sets of siblings, of which said group had a little sibling within it who’s older brother, who’s away at college, has their side of their shared room decorated with many awards whilst the little sibling has hardly any, and said friend group fell apart after the older sister within the group isn’t around anymore, eventually leading into the events of the game where you swap between the entirely real world and some sort of different world that takes inspiration from real things/characters for its characters, where the main protagonist travels alongside their friends who’s skin and hair are not their regular colors and they wear different clothing.
(By the way if there are any similarities i failed to mention in the Undertale/spm section of my comment, that’s because I didn’t watch the video.)
Omori be like:
Only thing missing from smp is a song that goes unused and might play when you fight a certain character
song that might play when you fight bonechill
Kinda wish you explained Undertale in more detail too as I'm about to send this to someone who played SPM but not Undertale
Oh, yeah, it would've been nice for completeness' sake. It's just that I've already explained and talked about Undertale a lot before, so I felt it a little bit redundant. Nice to know your feedback though!
I’VE ALWAYS BEEN SAYING THIS
Me when sans is ness theory but childhood game is undertale and suddenly universe break dear god what have you don-
I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY-
Undertale leans more into player choice and meta-commentary on video game mechanics, but both games have similar tones, themes, and senses of humor. SPM was one of my earliest, formative RPGs, so it makes sense why Undertale grabbed me in the same way.
Also. It's Deltarune, but.
Spamton G Spamton became my favorite fictional character overnight, and when I realized that he shared the same charismatic trickster archetype as Dimentio, my all-time favorite villain, even down to betraying the main character for a heart-shaped object of unlimited power, I have never recovered.
Curse my affinity for mages and/or merchants who will suddenly but inevitably betray me...
now that’s a sentence
Lore of Undertale and Super Paper Mario are the Same momentum 100
Yo I was just thinking that
I swear you sound like a sick cartoonshi
who the heck gave toby a wii
Asgore isn't truely evil thoguh, and is hesitent about the whole revenge aspect, unlike Bleck.
Count Bleck is more resigned & feels like it MUST happen, he doesn't like it near the end but he feels like there's nothing he can do (his plot is way eviler than Asgore's I'll give you that)
Well, he’s chummy chummy w/ Nintendo, so…
18:57 I'm based, I have a Wii, and i played Super Paper Mario, and while i started to play undertale, I stopped playing once i got to waterfall...
Thankfully Undertale has better gameplay
Lol.