retired lineman, since 96, started in 54. no bucket trucks, no augers, all hand dug, tripod boom bolted together and fastened to back of truck with pins. winch mounted in bed of truck. After pole was set the oldest man on crew shoveled, usually the driver/operator, because he was old and slow. 3 men tamping, not the way these filled the hole. You can bet that cabbage headed foreman made sure most of the dirt was tamped back into hole. I had 42 years of the best job there is, working with the best men on this good earth.Loved every minute of it, well most of it.
My neighbour has built on land outside of their boundary next to a pole in a field with approx 7 metre clearance, will they be made to demolish the building? 👍 The land around the pole was 7 metre but they built on it!
Inside wireman JW for 37 years. Done a small amount, mostly temporary services (line work). Set some poles for lighting and some services. It’s nice to see professional linemen do their work.
I’ve got to set a couple poles soon for a job. 200 a service feeding two metal buildings. No overhead lines close. I’m sure utility co will need some poles to bring the service in closer.
My wife and I was driving to Kansas from Oklahoma and as the trip continued we noticed at least a mile of slanted utility poles. I commented how dangerous it looked and we also noticed new poles on the ground next to the slanted poles. I told her that I wondered how these poles were gonna be installed. This is why I'm watching this video. VERY INFORMATIVE!!
Thanks for posting, and also for showing the whole thing. I want to install a pole in the ground, not for electrical purposes. I simply didn't know how, and being a woman, it is hard for me to get men to explain how they do it without rolling their eyes at me. Thanks for the rule of thumb, very useful. I have since learned that dirt and/or crushed gravel is better than cement, which holds moisture around the wood. I appreciate this very much.
Well with utility poles they must be cemented so they last for decades.And wont budge or move in high winds.And also think its a federal law that they are placed a certain way.
TSpider Keeper Thanks for the info. Yes, this makes sense. I guess the whole gravel thing only works for small applications, like maybe making a grape arbor. Maybe it doesn't work at all.
35+ years in the trade challenging but satisfying to teach the next generation how its done . funny you can tell them how it used to be and they look at you in disbelife.
Cool video. I just wanted an example of why putting fence posts in concrete is not just unnecessary but probably a bad idea. If a pole doesn't need it my fence doesn't, it just needs to be deep enough.
so if the preform on the guy doesnt hold once the chain hoist is removed can the rake tension cause the guy wire to whip back? i always thought there was some more mechanical assistance with the process other than drilling the anchor hole
Not necessary. If you're going to swing a pole, you've got the heavy equipment to dig a deep-enough hole, and if you have that, you can afford the extra $80-100 for a somewhat taller pole. That said, steel/concrete poles will sometimes have concrete footings.
video and commentary were good, would be better to include making the hole for the pole and installing the guy anchor then installing the transmission lines.
maybe im overthinking it, but im wondering if theres a way of using a level or other device to make sure its perfectly vertical. i know its complicated by the fact that the pole is tapered. do you make a box around the pole? drop plumb lines from a measured distance from all sides? or do you just eyeball it? im thinking of using utility poles to build a second floor on stilts over an existing structure.
Anyone know a good video that shows how to set a pole by steps. Like when to stinger out and boom up. I wanna be able to set a pole with ease through a junction pole
The anchors are only installed on poles that are the beginning, end and if they aren't in a straight line. Next time you ride down the road watch. I teach people by riding down the road and saying" straight, straight, curve, curve, straight. And if the lines on the pole stop they anchor for the end of line even if a pole line keeps going for power but maybe cable or telephone company stops you will see they have to anchor the line as they follow the same rules
hole digging. it would be nice to be able to drive them into the ground though. it would save a lot of time and effort. it just not possible with flat pole ends though.
No such thing. Lowest-voltage line I work with is 4.16kV, or 4,160V. Typically pole spacing varies by utility company, and is based on conductor sizing and how many phases in the circuit - single-phase can go as far as you can maintain clearance, while 3-phase has shorter span lengths, and double circuits (two 3-phase circuits on the same pole) is shorter still.
Legendary. Reminds me of Fred Dibnah: th-cam.com/video/NKPApAsJbj4/w-d-xo.html. I'm really happy to see someone out there teaching young people new things. I'm in the construction industry and I've always wondered about telephone poles. They are truly a masterpiece if they can exist everywhere on the planet.
Help! I'm a court reporting and I had to take a meter electrician or whatever in a deposition. I have typed what I think I am hearing him say and have marked the words I have no clue if they are right or not. If you know the words he may be saying, please let me know. Thank you. Here it is: "The pole was approximately the size of a five gallon bucket. You can imagine turning your feet probably at a forty-five degree angle to be able to * stope your * gaff in while pulling yourself with your arms and hands." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Is this a program that costs money or is it people who want to learn can come learn/assist workers on the job? I want to learn this and bc a lineman that travels. I'm going to start as a "Helper" this summer but don't want to look like a jdiot bc I don't know sh!t about Fuk... How does someone that doesn't have money supposed to learn ? Is there a place that trains or pays to train?
good video thanks! my question is what is the ballpark figure for how much does this cost to put in by my home? I know it cost different for different areas but that's why I asked for a ballpark figure only
Alot hot stick or rubber glove higher voltages and they all climb or use equipment to go alot higher. Some put on faraday suits and clip into voltages from Helicopters that are several hundred thousands volts. Just so your home is warm and your entertainment is working. Rain, fire, winds, ice, snow, disasters we are there for you. When your child is in the hospital, (god forbid) look around . Everything is electric. These men leave their warm homes and family to do one of the most dangerous jobs. Hazzards at every turn. So when their in traffic in a city or climbing a hill in a rural area to work. Realize their dedication. Don 't complain when one of them takes a little longer break to cool off or stops for a hot meal after working 8 hours knowing he may have another 10 to go. If you want to complain about us. Try walking in our shoes if you can fill them.
I need to replace my 25 foot power pole. It's old and leaning, I had an electrician tell me it would cost 10 grand to replace it. Who can afford that, for a piece of wood ? Lol...
@destroycamero Pacific Power in the Northwest. They will come out and cut the power off for free, but the pole is mine. I put in a ground anchor, and attached a cable and turnbuckle to gradually pull it more upright. It looks better than it did, but it's no substitute for a new one.
Thanks for the feedback. We are just the media company but it's my guess from making these videos and being around the industry a little that it's still much more cost and time efficient to use the "tree trunks" in most cases. Maybe another viewer would have a better answer though. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
iecSimulations It was a good video though I'd have liked to see them using the big augur to make the hole. I realize it would be too expensive to put power lines underground but it should be considered esp where they are an eyesore in cities. We tend to lose power often here in VA with hurricanes, ice storms ect...
We hope to make that a future video. We are trying to work our way through the whole school from beginners level to the advanced. Taking a little longer than we hoped for though. Thanks again.
irish89055 It is expensive to bury utility facilities. Safety is also a concern. Do you call to have the facilities located every time you put a shovel in the ground? Many people don't. Utilities don't guarantee depth because we have no control over what happens to the surface after the facilities are buried, i.e. erosion, grading, etc. With many utilities the regular maintenance is also less expensive when it is hung aerially, instead of buried. Just my two cents.
retired lineman, since 96, started in 54. no bucket trucks, no augers, all hand dug, tripod boom bolted together and fastened to back of truck with pins. winch mounted in bed of truck. After pole was set the oldest man on crew shoveled, usually the driver/operator, because he was old and slow. 3 men tamping, not the way these filled the hole. You can bet that cabbage headed foreman made sure most of the dirt was tamped back into hole. I had 42 years of the best job there is, working with the best men on this good earth.Loved every minute of it, well most of it.
My neighbour has built on land outside of their boundary next to a pole in a field with approx 7 metre clearance, will they be made to demolish the building? 👍 The land around the pole was 7 metre but they built on it!
😊😊
I dont know what I learned, but the guy teaching did a fantastic job.
Inside wireman JW for 37 years. Done a small amount, mostly temporary services (line work). Set some poles for lighting and some services. It’s nice to see professional linemen do their work.
I’ve got to set a couple poles soon for a job. 200 a service feeding two metal buildings. No overhead lines close. I’m sure utility co will need some poles to bring the service in closer.
My wife and I was driving to Kansas from Oklahoma and as the trip continued we noticed at least a mile of slanted utility poles. I commented how dangerous it looked and we also noticed new poles on the ground next to the slanted poles. I told her that I wondered how these poles were gonna be installed. This is why I'm watching this video.
VERY INFORMATIVE!!
Thanks for posting, and also for showing the whole thing. I want to install a pole in the ground, not for electrical purposes. I simply didn't know how, and being a woman, it is hard for me to get men to explain how they do it without rolling their eyes at me. Thanks for the rule of thumb, very useful. I have since learned that dirt and/or crushed gravel is better than cement, which holds moisture around the wood. I appreciate this very much.
+BlackSeranna Thanks for the feedback, glad it was helpful.
Well with utility poles they must be cemented so they last for decades.And wont budge or move in high winds.And also think its a federal law that they are placed a certain way.
TSpider Keeper Thanks for the info. Yes, this makes sense. I guess the whole gravel thing only works for small applications, like maybe making a grape arbor. Maybe it doesn't work at all.
Remember when a gas drill was the “cordless” option? Lol.. we’ve come a long way in tools in the last few years.
35+ years in the trade challenging but satisfying to teach the next generation how its done .
funny you can tell them how it used to be and they look at you in disbelife.
i don't work in this field.. video very interesting, great commentary.
Excellent video
Routine linework. 5000 volts in your hands, 50ft in the air, no mistakes, no excuses. Just another day at the office.
And they call others hero's.
A person is definetly not a hero for working on/near power lines but sure does deserve some respect for being such a dangerous job
@Operation Treadstone we went thousands of years without electricity bud
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@@leopoldomartinez1263 what?
That was cool, neat to learn other trades
I've set 30ft telephone poles by hand with 4 Mexican while building deer stands in S.C. --- Whish I'd had this equipment!! Great video!!
Leet. Me. Be your practice student
WwoooowW. This is amazing
Ayre Head Thanks so much for your enthusiasm. Glad you liked it.
Looks fun. What's the requirements to apply? I'm in wa state & no clue where to start🤷
Cool video. I just wanted an example of why putting fence posts in concrete is not just unnecessary but probably a bad idea. If a pole doesn't need it my fence doesn't, it just needs to be deep enough.
so if the preform on the guy doesnt hold once the chain hoist is removed can the rake tension cause the guy wire to whip back? i always thought there was some more mechanical assistance with the process other than drilling the anchor hole
my favorite part is the gas powered drill what brand is it from?
tanaka
Is a power line pole put on the line of your property
That’s for posting this answered my question
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life John 3:16
I remember watching this as a 6 year old
Why is concrete not used in the hole when installing utility poles, but commonly used with smaller post?
Because people can’t stop running into them with there cars , it would be a nightmare trying to change one out that was in concrete.
Not necessary. If you're going to swing a pole, you've got the heavy equipment to dig a deep-enough hole, and if you have that, you can afford the extra $80-100 for a somewhat taller pole.
That said, steel/concrete poles will sometimes have concrete footings.
I came to this video looking at how they can secure such tall poles (thought they must use a ton of concrete). I'm very surprised they use none.
video and commentary were good, would be better to include making the hole for the pole and installing the guy anchor then installing the transmission lines.
maybe im overthinking it, but im wondering if theres a way of using a level or other device to make sure its perfectly vertical. i know its complicated by the fact that the pole is tapered. do you make a box around the pole? drop plumb lines from a measured distance from all sides? or do you just eyeball it? im thinking of using utility poles to build a second floor on stilts over an existing structure.
Plumb
Anyone know a good video that shows how to set a pole by steps. Like when to stinger out and boom up. I wanna be able to set a pole with ease through a junction pole
When installing in the swamp how do you reinforce the poles?
The anchors are only installed on poles that are the beginning, end and if they aren't in a straight line. Next time you ride down the road watch. I teach people by riding down the road and saying" straight, straight, curve, curve, straight. And if the lines on the pole stop they anchor for the end of line even if a pole line keeps going for power but maybe cable or telephone company stops you will see they have to anchor the line as they follow the same rules
Are these ever drove into the ground or just via hole digging?
hole digging. it would be nice to be able to drive them into the ground though. it would save a lot of time and effort. it just not possible with flat pole ends though.
Yes good work but i need know the construction of a 400v distribution line ie its spacing of poles standard
Google it?
No such thing. Lowest-voltage line I work with is 4.16kV, or 4,160V. Typically pole spacing varies by utility company, and is based on conductor sizing and how many phases in the circuit - single-phase can go as far as you can maintain clearance, while 3-phase has shorter span lengths, and double circuits (two 3-phase circuits on the same pole) is shorter still.
Good video
learned how to make utility poles
I can do 3 Mexicans and a white giy
You have
I service good on my kness
awesome explanation and video. could have done better job on tamping :) very relaxing to watch :)
👍😎👍
How do would I be involve in your company line of work please??
Legendary. Reminds me of Fred Dibnah: th-cam.com/video/NKPApAsJbj4/w-d-xo.html.
I'm really happy to see someone out there teaching young people new things. I'm in the construction industry and I've always wondered about telephone poles. They are truly a masterpiece if they can exist everywhere on the planet.
Help! I'm a court reporting and I had to take a meter electrician or whatever in a deposition. I have typed what I think I am hearing him say and have marked the words I have no clue if they are right or not. If you know the words he may be saying, please let me know. Thank you. Here it is:
"The pole was approximately the size of a five gallon bucket. You can imagine turning your feet probably at a forty-five degree angle to be able to * stope your * gaff in while pulling yourself with your arms and hands." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Is this a program that costs money or is it people who want to learn can come learn/assist workers on the job? I want to learn this and bc a lineman that travels. I'm going to start as a "Helper" this summer but don't want to look like a jdiot bc I don't know sh!t about Fuk... How does someone that doesn't have money supposed to learn ? Is there a place that trains or pays to train?
good video thanks! my question is what is the ballpark figure for how much does this cost to put in by my home? I know it cost different for different areas but that's why I asked for a ballpark figure only
100,000 dollars
@@god1246 that might be a home run
Alot hot stick or rubber glove higher voltages and they all climb or use equipment to go alot higher. Some put on faraday suits and clip into voltages from Helicopters that are several hundred thousands volts. Just so your home is warm and your entertainment is working. Rain, fire, winds, ice, snow, disasters we are there for you. When your child is in the hospital, (god forbid) look around . Everything is electric. These men leave their warm homes and family to do one of the most dangerous jobs. Hazzards at every turn. So when their in traffic in a city or climbing a hill in a rural area to work. Realize their dedication. Don 't complain when one of them takes a little longer break to cool off or stops for a hot meal after working 8 hours knowing he may have another 10 to go. If you want to complain about us. Try walking in our shoes if you can fill them.
Not enough ramming. Should be 3 rams to one shovel.
😊 if u diamond the washers ice wont hang so much on it ..good times.👍
I need to replace my 25 foot power pole. It's old and leaning, I had an electrician tell me it would cost 10 grand to replace it. Who can afford that, for a piece of wood ? Lol...
Somebody lied to you.
@destroycamero I have, they came out and gave me a brochure on what they are responsible for, and what I am. They won't do anything...
@destroycamero Pacific Power in the Northwest. They will come out and cut the power off for free, but the pole is mine. I put in a ground anchor, and attached a cable and turnbuckle to gradually pull it more upright. It looks better than it did, but it's no substitute for a new one.
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I enjoyed this.... but it makes little sense to still be hanging power lines from tree trunks in the 21st century.....
Thanks for the feedback. We are just the media company but it's my guess from making these videos and being around the industry a little that it's still much more cost and time efficient to use the "tree trunks" in most cases. Maybe another viewer would have a better answer though. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
iecSimulations
It was a good video though I'd have liked to see them using the big augur to make the hole. I realize it would be too expensive to put power lines underground but it should be considered esp where they are an eyesore in cities. We tend to lose power often here in VA with hurricanes, ice storms ect...
We hope to make that a future video. We are trying to work our way through the whole school from beginners level to the advanced. Taking a little longer than we hoped for though. Thanks again.
irish89055 It is expensive to bury utility facilities. Safety is also a concern. Do you call to have the facilities located every time you put a shovel in the ground? Many people don't. Utilities don't guarantee depth because we have no control over what happens to the surface after the facilities are buried, i.e. erosion, grading, etc. With many utilities the regular maintenance is also less expensive when it is hung aerially, instead of buried. Just my two cents.
+irish89055 It's renewable and biodegradable. It's reasonable in terms of cost. I'm glad they aren't making from plastic, the bane of the planet.
No fuckn concrete !!?
Nope!
That's probably why a ton of poles are shaking/leaning during Windstorms.