Controlled Round Feed Rifles CAN Jam!
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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You are the first person I have seen to demonstrate how both feed systems work and how they can Jam. Thank you .
I agree!
The reason for controlled round feed was not for anti jam, but to prevent a double feed that can result in a tip to primer out of battery detonation that can blow the bolt into the face of a soldier. The Mosin Nagant was a push to feed, but used a magazine interrupter to prevent a double feed, that prevents the magazine from pushing up the next round until after the bolt is locked down. Ron Does a great job demonstrating the controlled round feed. The history and diagrams are explained on the C&Rsenal channel by Othias.
I was always taught to run a bolt gun like you’re mad at it, and you’ll do fine. I’ve done this for decades, and rarely had a jam. (Unless I was goofing off!) Push feed or controlled round feed never mattered. Great video!
My wife keeps having a failure to fully eject when running a pump shotgun or the same reason, she's too soft on it. I keep telling her rack it like you mean it. She hasn't had this problem with a bolt though.
Same with lever guns..... short stroking them or being too "pussy foot" will often hang them up.....treat 'em like you hate 'em and they work every time... :-)
Great video as usual. On my shooting DAY ONE 50 years plus ago I was told " Pull the bolt back positively till it stops then push it forward positively". Was imbedded in my sub concious then and is automatic. I am sure plenty of people will learn from your vid. Beautiful rifles and love your four legged metal detector. Cheers from Australia.
Ron, the main point is that while the CRF system doesn’t eliminate the possibility of trying to feed two rounds, because the round remains attached to the bolt face the jam is easily cleared by simply pulling the bolt back. Clearing a jam on a PF rifle can be much more difficult.
drive it like ya stole it.😎
After years of using model 700's without problems I think the key is learning to always fully cycling the bolt. I have seen a similar problem with first time users of semi auto rifles when they ride the slide and the bolt doesn't lock fully into the breach. Correct operating habits cure most shooting ills.
Agree !
All of the turn bolt rifles I’ve owned have been controlled round feed. I liked the fact that the claw never failed the extract and eject my necked down, sometimes oil dented .308 brass. I was too cheap to buy new brass and our base range didn’t have a means to recycle their .308s and i needed brass for my .243….. bingo! Mine are all Model 70s or Pre-war Mauser 98. Thevlater is one my Dad liberated at the end of World War II. It’s a work of art!
Ron, I’ve been using all sorts of rifles since the 70’s and I’ve never had any problems with jams…
Winchesters, Remingtons, Savages, or whatever I’ve hunted with, if I run the actions hard like they’re meant to be, my spent casings just fly off to the side! Having said that, anything designed by man can fail to work as intended and jams certainly fall into that category!
To borrow (kinda steal, really) a famous phrase from a great gun guru, “If I do my part, the rifle’s action will do its part…”
Great video!
Same here and I totally agree with you.
So true. Anyone grabs bolt knob with fingers has no idea how to use bolt
I think Ron knows. Watch him shoot.
@@rudysroots2789 watch gunblue490. Anyone that grabs knob with fingers is a rank amateur
You can use fingers on gun rest at range not in the real world. Think about it you hunt in winter fingers dont work
Will always be a fan of control round feed action.
Yep had it happen. I still prefer controlled feed. Mauser actions are the best. I was a teen when it happened but I had been shooting that rifle since I was a kid. It taught me to be more careful.
Good lesson showing potential jam on several type rifles. Best video I've seen explaining this topic. I know what to avoid. Thank you.
Of my various bolt action rifles, from .222 Rem up to .375 H&H, about half are controlled round feed and half are push feed. I can honestly say I have not experienced a jam with either while in the field. I was taught to use the bolt firmly and positively (quickly but not overly so). In particular, to always pull fully back, push fully forward and to fully drop the bolt handle down after pushing forward. Up, back, forward, down and each movement should result in a 'clunk' sound. "It's a rifle, not a baby. Work the damn thing!"
I was taught that jams are almost always caused by moving the bolt gently. If I had to work the bolt silently, to pay particular attention to watching the cartridge fully engaged into the chamber and the bolt handle fully closed.
The same attitude was necessary in using a pump action shotgun. Work the slide fully and firmly.
I like the info he gives, he is very knowledgeable!.
Bahahaha, it's a Winchester. :-) Thanks Ron for showing this, it helps keep you on your toes.
Great learning video.
Great video demonstration Mr Spomer. A good reminder to practice proper feeding and extracting with vigour when shooting. I’ve been hunting now over 50yrs and I never look at my rifle after I’ve fired a shot at a game animal. I keep my eye on the animal and work the bolt quickly, through muscle memory, with intent to get a fresh round in the chamber. In my peripheral vision I still catch the spent cartridge ejecting from the port. I have had a few jams with mostly push feed rifles but that was at the range and I was working the bolt lazily. But great video.
Thank you for this. In 1983 I bought an Argentinian Mauser Gewehr 98 in 7mm x57. Over the course of some 300 rounds I had maybe two jams, always by short cycling the action. I learned right away that, it can happen, and, don't do that. All the way back and all the way forward, no problems. I still miss that beautiful action, the best bolt action I have ever handled never mind that the bolt stuck straight out sideways. So smooth and positive. I paid $75 dollars Canadian for it back then and I would gladly pay $1500 to have it back again. I always learn a lot from your channel Mr. Spomer, please keep sharing your knowledge.
Never had it happen to me. But, after watching this, I tried it with my Winchester 375 H&H and it jammed just like you showed.
I had this happen to a client of mine on an Elk hunt, he was using an older Mauser in 7x57. He got so excited when a 340" bull stepped out from behind a big pine in full bugle, he missed the first shot, and shorted his bolt throw, jammed it right up. Bull walked off unscathed!
Thank you for sharing
My Ruger M77 MK2 in 30 06 can jam this way as well.
I just tried it and had identical results Ron.
Good to know.
Thanks.
This information should have been taught to me in Hunters Safety classes 55 years ago! I learned it in the military 45 years ago. Once again Mr. Spomer, I know why i watch your videos!
It’s good to remember any moving objects can hang up, jump time or just plain fail. Thanks again Ron for these useful fun videos and podcast. Good shooting to you and your fans. 🎥💯👍
Excellent points
Smoothest rifle feeding system I’ve ever had is set up with a pierce engineering push feed action, and a Hawkins precision hunter dbm.
The feeding is beyond smooth, and you don’t have to ram the bolt forward to close on the cartridge. The bolt closes just as easy with our without a cartridge in the chamber. The pierce is also smoother than my Bat Machine action.
The last CRF that you demonstrated, without the claw. What brand rifle was that?
Was just wondering that as well
I believe it's a LAW model M704 actioned rifle
Legendary Arms Works with Ed Brown designed M704 action. The actions are now sold by Legendary Action Works. You have to build your own rifle.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors I'd also wondered. Looks like a nice, lightweight mountain rifle if ever I've seen one.
Exellent video. I had a parker hale that would jam from time to time . Controlled feed . It also didnt pick up every time. Found out the claw was just ever so slightly bent.
This is related to Mr. Spomer's video. It's not a bad idea to cycle the cartridges you are going to hunt with a few times before going into the field. Especially if you are a handloader and even more so if pursuing dangerous game. It seems some rounds will feed better than others even out of the same box of ammo. Thanks for the video.
I own both kinds and have since 1971 and the only difference I can see between the push feed and control feed is that I can load an extra round in the push feed with the magazine full-which I can't do with the control feed-on the magnum calibers that is a 25 % more ammo capacity
You can load the extra round.
Remove the bolt from the rifle.
Fill the magazine.
Secure the extra round to the boltface, and re-insert the bolt into the action, depressing the top round in the mag with your thumb....
This way can be fiddly...And, it works with a Blind magazine as well.
The second way, is;
Load a round in the chamber....the usual way.
Put safety ON.
Turn the rifle on it's back.
Open magazine floorplate and load magazine from below the action.
I know both these methods work, because I have used them in my Parker Hale 98 action in .257 Weatherby Mag....I use the second method.
As well as in other 98's I own.
I've also never had the Jam, Ron demonstrated for us in this viddy.
Terrific video, Ron. Thanks.
Great video Ron!!! Arno, South Africa
We love your show Ron
Ron very interesting and informative. I do think it’s worth noting that in the control round feed the jam is always one cartridge stacked on top of another. Granted this type of jam can happen on a push feed but the more dangerous situation is leaving a live cartridge in the chamber and slamming another loaded cartridge with a nice pointy tip right into the primer of the one in battery. Now we have the tubular magazine syndrome going on. Is this a thing or am I crazy?
Love my ruger 77 push feed,with Mauser style extractor. The only problem with plunger ejectors I have seen is the potential to freeze up in extremely cold temperatures if they have any moisture in them.
Ron
One advantage to most push feeds is you can drop one round in the gun without putting it in the magazine..and close the bolt. You try that with my Mausers and the bolt won't close because the "hook" that holds the round is started from the bottom, when the round is stripped from the mag. It's really hard on the gun.
Cheers
Yes, that was an issue with older Mauser claw extractor styles, but most newer ones feature a scalloped or dished face that snaps over single fed rounds dropped atop the magazine box or single fed into the chamber.
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Roger that...like me...they are all older. Haha
There is a smorgosbord of good looking rifle. I envy you Ron. :-)
Awesome thanks buddy…
Great videos Ron, thanks so much for sharing all the knowledge !
Absolutely great explanation. I have never in my life had any jams from either one. The idea is great but the necessity is nil.
I think that most people own both. Both have their pluses and minuses. Personally I grew up bird hunting with a bolt action Mossberg shotgun. No problem running a bolt rifle!
I have both styles but most of mine are controlled feed. I am ok with either one. If you do your part, both work just fine.
My only problem with my 1917 Enfield was , that under recoil 30-06 soft tiped cartridges would shift forward and hang up with the front of magazine and not raise, silver solderer two polished steel rails on each side of magazine as a shoulder guide, some modern magazines have them stamped in
I remember that. Thank you sir.
Ron, an excellent video as usual. Your explanation was helpful and I learned a few things from it. I have a sporterized 8mm Mauser built in 1944. All of the German stamps and serial numbers are present. I conducted your jam test and it double fed just like all the controlled round actions you demonstrated. Thanks for your outstanding series of videos.
By the way, I’d love to see you do a video on the Browning A Bolt II. I think that’s the best of the A Bolt models; the action and trigger are superb, it’s amazingly accurate and the swing out detachable magazine is brilliant.
Thanks again.
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Just had to check, my 03 Springfield sporter ejects the empty BEFORE it picks up the round from the magazine. Couldn't make it jam at all. Chock one up for good old American ingenuity. Thanks for the video!
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Yes they can. Controlled feed can certainly jam. I’ve done it! In certain situations I’d still prefer them but no system is perfect. And neither is the operator!!
Ron, this is actually an really good demonstration of push feed and CRF mechanics. We'll done in the demo. This is a good resource and much better than cartridge discussion. 👍
I'm an big fan of the controlled mauser style action but admittedly it's more about the robust heavy extractor and extraction function.
This one was well done Ron.
Glad you enjoyed it, Aaron.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors The controlled feed was a military idea to keep excited or panicked troops from jamming up their rifles.
Excellent information. I too have experienced jams involved in these same scenarios. This explains a whole lot and will save a lot of frustration! Well done!
I learned something new today. Thanks Ron.
Best demo ever for CRF! Nice job!
Don’t limp wrist the bolt and there are no troubles with either.
Very informative.Ive heard that before.The only time I had that happen was with a 870 Express. They did have issues but I think I wasn't used to a pump and it wasn't closed or in-between shots and it jammed. Dad put a lot of faith in his M1 and I don't remember him telling me about a jam . He did prefer blots over any semi-automatics. There was a comparison of reliability of Bolts vs Semi automatic rifles. The article mentioned human error of a bolt vs the reliability of a good semi-automatic and even shot pattern. The Browning BAR with a few other quality semi rifles to be considered as reliable as a bolt. At the gun club years ago their club shot gun was a Benelli semi auto that had an unbelievably low jam rate. I know when I jammed the pump I was hunting and over excited and wasn't concentrating on my fold and load . That article even considered the BAR reliable enough for dangerous game.I think I'd take a chance on one. My favorite is a side by side rifle but they're way out of my price range .
Great explanation! My 243 win Model 70, built on a standard action often jammed when I started hunting. Mostly operator error, but it happened.
I've got a CZ 527 in 7.62x39 that's controlled feed...my only one. Going to have to do this little experiment on it.
Nice looking camo 🇺🇸
I love that the dog matches your rifle stock!
Well done Ron!
Like me: finding new and creative ways to jam a bolt action rifle. 😁
Been mentioned a couple times here already but truth, bolt, lever or pump no matter, run them with "authority " trying to slinky feed or slow no it will cause all kinds of issues, just got to be deliberate don't short stroke, back hard ahead hard!
I have never met a Mechanical device that could not fail. Love the channel
Good video. When US Military trained with bolt guns, always hard metal to metal on rear stroke. CRF was designed for full cycle. Not necessarily superior.
I just tested with my M98, chambered in 6,5x55 SE and can confirm the problem is also there. Maybe even worse then newer once, cause it does not pick up the first cartridge controlled without you push the bolt all the way in front to let the extractor claw slip over(might be the specific calibers lenght). I once ended up in a bad situation with my old trusted Mauser(produced in 1937, heavy modified), the M98 is a workhorse you have to handle with solid determined movements, but in my case the extractor claw broke and left the empty cartridge in the chamber. Probobly a once in a lifetime experience, and most likely a resault of age and use. Personally I like the Sako bolt feed/extraction and similar systems better. Mutch smoother handeling all the way, my new Bergara Mountain Extreme Hunter is like a dream.
I now remember that it`s common to file of a little bit of angle and length on the extractor claw on competition M98 rifles, so it slips over and more likely grips the cartridge. but there is a fine line between good function and failure, so it has to be done by a experianced gunsmith. so better to shoot with a angry handeling then risk a failure during hunts.
The old WW ll instructors used to instruct trainees to operate the bolt "in soldierly fashion" ( rather harshly). This practice could limit this type of jam to a large extent.
I always liked crfs for how strong the extractor and ejector is.
Another issue I've seen happen with the push feed that Ron failed to mention is when one deals with a spent case after being fired, the bolt is operated 3/4 of the way back, just enough to get the shell to eject out, then the bolt is closed on an empty only to find the follow up shot being a "click".
When that shell comes out, to some it means a green light to load up agian but because they haven't brought the bolt all the way back, they end up not picking up the round that they need. Of course this is operator error and can be easily overcome by practing to pull the bolt the whole length.
A Mauser will not do that. It'll eject the shell only when you've pulled back the bolt all the way. Something you could do a video on Ron.
The advantage is only about the added purchase of the claw extractor. Failures are enhanced when actions of long cartridges are used. However; clearing the failure requires the next round to feed from the magazine. What is most important is knowing why it can fail. Great video to remind the viewer of the differences. 🙂
The last deer I killed was also the first I've ever shot with a controlled feed action Ruger M77 MkII. After my first (and only) shot it jammed as I cycled the action as fast as I could. Luckily I didn't need another round. It ejected the spent case just fine but somehow the tip of the next round slammed into the breechface of the barrel setting the bullet back into the case. This rifle had never jammed on me before on the range and I was unable to replicate it again afterward. I've also seen a push feed jam really bad on another hunter I was with after he wounded a deer. He couldn't figure out how to clear it, I finally did for him and he was able to kill his deer. I still like push feeds and controlled feed actions but prefer controlled. I think the most important thing is to know your rifle and how it works. Thanks Ron for the excellent presentation and example of knowing how your rifle works! I wonder if all I had to do when my rifle jammed was to just pull it back again hard to clear the offending round? In the excitement I don't think I tried that!
Never had one jam, but then again I’ve only recently purchased my second bolt gun after over 20 years with the same savage 110 in 270win taking care of all my hunting rifle needs.
Beautiful dog Ron.
I love the Llewellyn. My favorite is the Blue Bellton Lewellyn Setter. Best bird dog I've owned. He was a grouse dog, who could absolutely clean quails clocks. Funny how that works. A good quail dog doesn't mean a good grouse dog. Dog's in quail usually get close. Grouse dogs point from some distance. I'm sure you already know all this. A long day out with Ace, (my Lewellyn) and when snack time came, he ate, drank and sometimes snuck in a short nap in on my lap. Well sometimes we both napped!🤷🏻♂️🤣
Graceful dogs.
Love you channel!
Keep'em coming!
When ejecting a fired cartridge case it will start to angle towards the ejection port - a fully loaded cartridge still has the bullet helping to prevent it from angling towards the ejection port. It was an interesting exercise , thanks for showing your hunting rifles !!!!
Ron, Another fine informative video. I have rifles of both types but prefer the controlled round feed. I've never had a jam with either but I was never in panic mode trying to get off a second shot in a hurry. As you pointed out, the big thing is vigorous or agresive working the bolt fully to the rear stop, you can feel and hear the ejector kicking the round out. I did manage to jam a Remington Wingmaster shotgun once by short stroking it when the doves were flying hot and heavy. That jam was NOT fixable in the field. I'm lucky I wasn't charged and killed by hoard of those flying devil's that make me use up so much ammo!
Yeah happened to me with my CG96 at the range. Happens to the Mauser too due to my error. Trying to save the brass…Thanks Ron
I had a K98 jam when I had the barrel pointed down while loading the rifle. The cartridge jumped the rails just before the extractor caught the rim and the cartridge fell into the chamber and the flat face military extractor wouldn't jump the rim. I had to bang the rifle butt on the ground a couple of times to get the cartridge to come out of the chamber.
The new intro looks great!
Thank you Ron for the demonstration on the difference between the two styles of bolt feed actions. It would be interesting to know also if the Blaser action has the same issue. I don't recall the bolt face and extractor style. With me, getting the rounds ejected is not the problem, it is remembering to take off the safety before I miss the shot opportunity (lol).
The blaser is push feed, it has a plunger ejector in the boltface. As soon as the tip of the case (or complete round) gets outside the chamber it will "fly off".
Basicly like a rem 700
it has an m16 style bolt
@@aslanbosnakoglu8240 well if the M16 has radialy expanding bolt head then yes.. but a plunger ejector and extractor
Karamojo Bell disliked longer than standard actions. With his enormous hunting experience, he still was not immune to being short on a reload.
You can run a CRF/Mauser action upside down or from any angle, but you do have to cycle completely no short stroking and throw the bolt back hard so the shell ejects since it ejects by force you pull the bolt back.
In my personal experience, the only way I have jammed a bolt action is due to negligence on my part. When it comes down to jamming while I was shooting it properly, I have never had that happen. The one jam was due to me trying to slowly pull the bolt so the round in the chamber didn't go too high, but it barely popped up and went back into the gun pretty much. In other words, use force to extract the round and feed the next to avoid jams.
* The other consideration when deciding between a controlled feed action or a push feed action in a bolt action rifle that will be used for hunting dangerous game is this, if you get into a dicey situation and find yourself and your gun being tossed about with the action open, your cartridge will have a better chance of staying connected to the bolt face in a rifle equipped with a controlled feed bolt. In a push feed type of action the cartridge will just fall out if the action is open. When you regain your balance, the controlled feed action gun can be ready to go just by closing the action. Not so with the push feed action. You'll either have to cycle another round or chamber one from your pocket, etc. Of course, if you have a spent cartridge stuck to the bolt face, you'll have to complete the cycling of the bolt in order to chamber a fresh round. I know this seems like a small consideration, but professional hunters will take advantage of every chance to stack the odds in their favor.
I believe I’ve had more jams with control-feed actions than with push-feeds. I have a control-feed rifle in .458 Win which I refuse to use and refuse to sell for fear it could get someone killed while hunting dangerous game.
Old saying: "Whenever you make something foolproof, the world invents a cleverer fool."
Thank you Ron for sharing so many wonderful hours of educational firearms content with us, I know it’s definitely influenced more than one of my firearms purchases
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I know, right! I'm thinking about getting a 7mm-08.
Ron, I remember back several years now that Winchester made all three types of bolts for a short while- push feed, controlled round feed and push fed controlled round feed. BTW Ron, my Whitworth Express's M-98 action will jam just like the ones on this video if I slowly retract the chambered round without ejecting the case and then shove it forward like you did. It picks up the next round and jams exactly the same way.
I haven't had this problem. I learned early to run my bolt hard. One problem I have had with push feed rifles is I have had a spent cartridge stick in the chamber, and the extractor spring was too weak to keep a good hold on the rim. At that point it took a cleaning rod to tap the brass out. For that very reason I prefer a rifle with that control round feed.
My dad got his first bolt action rifle in the late 1950s ( a FN action Weatherby ) I do not know of a man that was any more unflappable than him but twice that I know of he tried to double feed that rifle in hunting situations ( just as you demoed) Thanks for the tutorial!
It would be worth demonstrating the Sako 85 version of controlled round feed (CRF) which is a bolt but with a recess in the rotating head which takes hold of the round at the exact same place as a normal CRF bolt. Many people claim it is not a CRF because they claim if you took the bolt out it would not still be holding the round. Well firstly, I think it would be still holding it and secondly so what? That is just a party trick, I mean what are you going to do with that round stuck on the bolt, stab a charging Lion with it? Bearing in mind how butter-slick and reliable Sako bolt actions are compared to any Mauser 98 derived CRF bolts out there, I know which I would rather be using if I was facing a charging buffalo in Africa !
The Enfield rifle with all of it's short-comings and the chance of rim-lock, probably has one of the best controlled feed actions of all. If you want to unload the magazine without removing it, you can push the bolt forward enough to pick up the bullet, you do not have to go in battery. Then you can pull the bolt back and the extractor will push the round up against the receiver wall and eject it without going far enough back to hit the ejector.
The neat thing about controlled feed is the ability to clear the rifle without going into full battery. Push the bolt forward, pull it back FULLY to eject the cartridge, repeat until all rounds are cleared and the follower holds back the bolt.
If you try that with push feed, extractor won't pick up the round, you end up with a double feed.
What a pretty cartridge retriever.
Ron, great simple explanation of the push feed v control feed. We know this will be a never ending debate. Is there a right or best action type? I don't think so. In reality most of the dangerous game I've killed were with push feeds. Fortunately I never had an issue. With that being said, control feed and controlled eject is probably the better. Probably the best is to PRACTICE and be familiar with your rifle. Good job buddy.
Cheers Jeff
Covey is such a gorgeous English Setter.
Ron, you have excellent taste with dogs.
I wonder about the Krag Jorgensen magazine jamming that same way. The Savage 99 rotary magazine is very difficult to jam in the same way .
The problem with those rifles (crf) is that the manufacturers have shortened the actions as short as possible, I believe that in the original M98s the case has already ejected before the bolt has come back far enough for the cartridge in the magazine to come up . I have had 9 rifles made for me in 30/06, they were made on M98 military actions originally in 8 mm. I used these rifles for professional shooting in helicopters firing more than 60,000 rounds in 2 years, I never once experienced any form of action jamming . I did have on several occasions having ejected the spent case and closed the bolt on a empty chamber😳I was blaming the magazine spring, but now am sure that I short cycled the bolt. Ihave a Parker Hale in 375H&H magnum ( 1975 model)with a M98 action I just checked and I cannot make it jam either🤷♂️ tomorrow I am going to film it for sure 🤔
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I had the same type of jam with my lever action 308 during a deer hunt 20 years ago. The only thing I could think of is I didn't swing the lever all the way. That was the only time that had happened. I didn't get the deer.
I’ve had a controlled round feed jam one time in my over 30 years of hunting but have had numerous jams with push feed rifles. The controlled rifle was a Ruger 77 mark 2 in 25-06 it jammed in the same manner you demonstrated. I ran the bolt too gingerly. The push feeds I’ve had jam are a Savage 116 in 223 and two Remington 700s one in 25-06 the other in 223. All three have jammed more times than I can count
Did "it" jam, or did you jam it?
@@litsci4690 The rifle jammed. If I had just run the bolt a little faster and harder I don’t think it would’ve ever happened
Proper operation is important regardless of situation.
Nice video Ron, I didn’t catch the make and model of that last controlled feed rifle with the green synthetic stock?
Legendary Arms Works, M704 action by Legendary Action Works.
Was thinking the same thing, nice looking gun for sure.
That Irish green beauty was chambered in 6mm Creedmoor!
Ron using CM to self censor for the creedmor haters was hilarious.
That's the very reason that in the military we are told to operate the bole "in a soldierly fashion".....