Mulberry Tree Comparison | Growing Plants in Different Locations but Same Zone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- I was blown away when I saw this mulberry tree comparison and had to share it with you guys. Several months ago I sent a couple different mulberry trees to Mark of "The Overworked Gardener" and the difference in growth is amazing. We live in pretty much the same zone but different locations, however, growing these plants in different locations led to drastic differences. Go check out Mark's video for his part of the comparison. Link below.
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Head over to Mark's video th-cam.com/video/kg3fReMoC5w/w-d-xo.html and see how his mulberries are doing!
A bird came and donated a mulberry seed down here in the south next to a fence and it grew to 30 feet in just a couple years in the humidity. I almost cut it down but my wife thought we should wait and see what kind of tree it was.
I found my Pakistani trees love the 110 degree days here in southern Oregon. As long as they have water.
I love southern Oregon and have thought about moving there for the longer growing season. What town are you near down there?
@@MikeKincaid79 I'm in Medford. Just north of the California fires.
I propagated my first fig after watching your video about leaving the brand new growth!! She sprouted and I'm as excited as you about propagation 🌳🌴💚🤓
Watch out, it's addicting!
Mike it's all about pot size, I had a few I let grow in my yard in Michigan so I could use for bonsai. Yuge in one year.
Thanks for sharing. I wonder if constant drip irrigation would do the trick.
I too have been interested in seeing how different plants grow in the same ZONE but different climates.
Well, here's a nice example!
Wow his exploded! Man. Cool video Mike! And the song at the end of this video is my favorite song from your channel, Everytime I hear it, it reminds me of your channel with the early stuff. I actually found the song and used it on some of my drone videos I posted.
I love that song. Got a nice up beat tune to it.
This is so true. I've watched a lot of gardening videos on people in 6b. The same zone as me. Things grow totally different. My best advice is to get ahold of your local universities agricultural ext. They will have recommendations on what to grow in your specific area.
I was just blown away actually seeing this firsthand. It's amazing how we can connect and learn this stuff through TH-cam. This is that obscure info that you can actually see play out with your own eyes, lol. Good tip about contacting Universities.
Very cool video I can't believe the difference in the size of the plants. And I actually stunned them some earlier on .I was watering it enough. The heat kicked in and I had them on the porch and the concrete got hot. And dry them out a few times further than I wanted. But once I moved them over to where my side garden is or kitchen garden whatever you want to call it. And the water comes on and sprays them for a little bit in the morning and night. It changed things. Lol
The difference is amazing. You definitely have a much better area for growing these plants. You need more figs!
I found you by searching 8b. It certainly is different but man I’ve learned A LOT!
So glad you're learning. Yes, we live in very different parts of the country and I'm learning just as much from you all.
You are very lucky man Mike ... or with many blessings .... " Green Fingers " ... Saludos ...
Thanks Mario! Good to see you here.
Amazing 👍💯
Thanks for the visit
HI MIKE MY BIGGEST SUNFLOWER GOT BUST DOWN BY WINDY SO I HAD TO CUT TOP OFF AND PUT IN WATER TO KEEP A LIVE SO SEEDS CAN GROW BETTER AND MY ALL 3 MY SUNFLOWERS ARE OK STILL GROWING GREAT LOVE DAVID😀😀😀😀😀😀
Wow!! Definitely liked this video!! We live in the west texas area. Zone 7b about 5 hours east from Dallas. Cantaloupe and watermelons grow wonderfully here. Strawberries are not easily grown here or at least I haven't had much luck and no one I know of has luck with them.
We do good with strawberries here. I guess we all just have to grow what we can and spread it around.
Mike, I never would have guessed that there could be that big of a difference in the same USDA growing zones, great info! Now, I'm heading over to Mark's channel to see how his mulberry trees look. Around here, Mulberry trees are a pain in the keester because the birds plant them everywhere. The ones you're planting are probably not the same kind that grows wild in our area. I hope your family is having a great summer! ~Margie😊💚🦋
Yes, it's been a nice summer so far. Finally getting a little heat around here. Definitely check out Mark's video. It's so interesting to see how differently the same trees are growing in his area and mine.
Hey Mike. Started tomatoes in 6in pots. Gave some to a friend. We both planted in miracle grow soil. Mine in 7 gal pots,his in huge metal wash tubs. Mine are 3 ft or so,his are about 7 ft. Finding size pots makes big difference. Did same experment with a few trees. Bigger pot,bigger tree. Been working with soil mixes,an nothing compares to MG. Cost more for sure,but wow,what a difference. Nice green color too. Our yard is getting full of plants ! This stuff is fun.
Oh man, it's so much fun! Maybe it is the pots. I'll have to do an experiment on that one.
Mulberries is very interesting and beautiful reddish with plants as like from Texas that you said, you got beautiful plants in your greenhouse ! 🫐🫐🪴🪴
Thanks! It's mostly rhododendrons in there, although there are some maples and figs in the back.
"But I've got mulberries." You've got a good point. The race is on!! 😊 Both are growing, both are good. I love mulberry trees. Good fruit, provide tons of shade, I love how the wood is a beautiful yellow gold color. Great tree. Keep letting us watch the race.
I'll keep this going as long as you keep watching! Thanks for being here Darla.
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I think the pot size snd fertilizer contributed alot in that difference
YOU ARE STILL THE BEST. YOU HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLANTS I HAVE EVER SEEN. THE ZONE IS THE SAME BUT SO SO DIFFERENT, YOU GOT THE BEST PLACE, BELIEVE ME, LOVE TO YOU AND THE WHOLE FAMILY.
Thanks Glenda! You're plants are doing good and I just got my first bloom from the rose. I'll have to send you a pic.
Very interesting!!
I just got some worlds best from Jan. I’m in zone 4b.
Looking forward to seeing how that one does in ground. 4b? Wow, that sounds cold. Will you bring them into your house through the winter or are they safe outside?
Do you think I should let the newly rooting cuttings go dormant? If there are roots it would be a vary minimal amount.
@@MikeKincaid79 I was planning to move my potted mulberries to the garage this winter. Still on the fence about the cuttings I’m rooting? Garage or inside under grow lights??
Mike, thie thing about Texas growing is that we get 2 growing seasons and 2 darth seasons. We get 2ish months in the winter and 2 ish months in the summer that we are just trying to keep plants alive.
Right now I am starting new plants for the fall but they need to be kept in hard shade to prevent being cooked by the sun and heat.
That's interesting, and makes sense since it gets so hot down there in the summer. I had no idea it got as cold as it does in the winter until that power outage a couple years ago. Mark does mention watering like crazy at this time, lol.
@@MikeKincaid79 LOL yeah my stuff in pots needs watering everyday. Right now with the drought I am watering the raised beds 2 of every 3 days.
Mike, Be happy with your climate, Your beautiful Rhododendrons would burn up in Texas. I live in North Jersey & I envy your moderate climate. I'm in zone 7a, but we have much longer, colder winters & hotter summers than you. Moderate is a good thing.
We definitely have a moderate climate here. I suppose the grass is greener where you water it.
It didn't even get to 60° here in June, 😳 I live about 60 miles north of you.
Wow. We have had at least a solid month of 95-100 just south of Memphis. And no rain until yesterday.
Yeah, I know the feeling. It's been very cool here this year up until about a week or so ago. Now it's blazing hot but might be a little late in the year. We're struggling just to get broccoli and cabbage to grow this year.
After tasting my first fig that I grew this year I'm going to start growing figs thanks Mike thanks lol may you really enjoy the taste of the Mulberries you're going to have to get another few acres for mulberry trees now
Haha, I'll start sending you figs. What variety did you taste?
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Hey Mike, love mulberries! I have fond memories about them. Lol Mike, it's ok they will eventually be big trees!🤗❤🤗
I've actually never tasted one. Can't wait until these start producing.
They are so good! But make sure you don't ware clothes that you care about because it stains really bad. You can make jelly, preserves, syrup, wine.... I wonder how do they taste freeze dry?
I am trying to figure out what fruit trees and nut trees to get and $700 and am not even at half point.... I don't know! I hate to spend so much money and not to get fruits like at the other house. I really don't know what to do? Advice?
Also the bigger pot will go mulberry trees faster that is why the one's in Texas are going faster because the roots grow so fast
I live outside of Charleston SC about the same zone. I cut 2 dormant sticks off a mulberry on a trail that I walk my dogs on in January they are 4 feet tall now.
Wow, that's amazing! Maybe next year will be a little warmer for me here.
Hey Mike nice work. Iv been given away some cute fuchsia plants and fig trees. It’s amazing how people care better for them when gifts 🎁 them. To date I given about. 100 figs and 400 plus fuchsia plants. My wife thinks I’m silly Mike. Mmmm. But the feedback is worth more to me. Later
That's really cool man. People everywhere will love you for it.
I live in Tombstone AZ. I have fruited mulberries that do really good down here. The mulberries always are the first of anything that bears fruit every year. About 17 miles down the road where there are absolutely huge mulberry trees. I bet I get much less rain than you do and pretty sure we get a good bit hotter.
Washington is rainforest conditions while Arizona is dessert so it's no surprise! This is definitely interesting to think about, I've talked with my friend who lives up in mountains only like 12 minutes of driving from me and I live right beetween 2 major rivers that both go into the ocean near my house so theres 2 estuaries and theres also swamp and ponds all around me and I live in a zone 9b subtropical rainforest that never freezes but even tho it doesnt freeze, the constant high humidity causes tons of problems that my friend who lives next to one river and on a somewhat steep mountain on the river side of the mountain only about as far from the river as I am from the beach but it's hot and dry in his area and his area is way better for growing plants but he has constant deer and stuff while I've never had a single deer on my property in my entire time living here but tons of raccoons foxes and cougars and occasionally a lost bear and no bunnies so for me the only pest I have to worry about are slugs and the rare Caterpillar but I dont have any kindve caterpillars here that form in giant clusters like the ones in Washington and the main ones are the white butterflies that only eat and lay eggs on wild radish and broccoli and kale relatives and theres wild radish plants everywhere so I cant grow any broccoli or kale but that's fine since I hate those anyways xD I pretty much just have slug problems and humidity problems and cold ocean wind problems and every night ocean mist covers my property so everything is always wet and humid and anywhere with shade I never have to water the beds in but anything in the full sun I still have to water often and since I'm close to the beach the sun is rly intense so I have to grow seedlings and things cuttings in rly shaded area and than move them inground in the full sun once their able to handle that much direct sun! In Oregon and Washington theres millions of years worth of old growth compost from tree liter and stuff so our soil is absolutely incredible but I know that in Arizona it's very sandy and clay soil with very Lil organic matter so it's usually best to use lots of woodchips in Arizona! Tropicals grow better in zone 9's in Arizona than in my zone 9b just cause the crazy humidity xD I used to watch a guy named Jake mace who has a Lil food forest in Arizona and his channel is all about micro climates and growing in Arizona and changing the soil and environment to support more and more plants with time and you might like his old stuff! He used to be called the vegan athlete but now he does homesteading in Alaska in a yurt and it's all just his girlfriend half nude so I dont recomend his new vids at all xD but his old vids from when he had a food forest with his past wife in Arizona were rly good! His ex wife I believe has her own channel where she still showcases the food forest they made in Arizona but I don't think she makes vids anymore!
@@GoldenBoy-et6of Thank you for such a fascinating and detailed comment! My mom told me about the guy you mentioned. She even told me about him and his wife divorcing. Right now in Tombstone it's incredibly humid because we are in our monsoons, everything is green. Normally I have to water regularly but not at all now for more than a month. My property is out in the boonies away from town. Whole herds of deer and javalina are often on my property. I once had a mountain lion in the mulberry tree I mentioned looking into my kitchen window! I have to fence everything I grow. Black walnut, pecan, apricot, peach, pistachio, mulberry and even apple trees grow good here. Grape vines do really good too. My soil always has to be amended with organic material though. I live at high elevation and the winters get surprisingly cold. Every fig tree I've tried to grow always dies clear to the ground. One year I tried insulating around the base and pack rats got in and chewed all the bark off the trunk and limbs so it still died off to the ground. I really enjoyed reading your comment!
Yahhh Hello Mike been along time. How is that pinkie now? I adore Mulberries my favourite tree. I have planted 2 being winter now waiting for them to bud the tiny little one has the bigger one I had in a pot hasn't yet. 1st of Spring Sept 1st
G'day from Australia ❤️🇦🇺🐨🦘
I'll bet you're looking forward to spring. Stay warm. The pinkie is all good.
some parts of Texas has amazing soil. we used to call it black gumbo. some things grow crazy in that stuff.
Sounds great. We've got nice soil here too, minus all the rocks, lol. Just wish we had a longer growing season.
Mike just a little information if you don't know mulberry plants have a very fast and extensive root system they grow very long and extremely strong so don't plant near home or a septic system they will grow under the house slab and Crack it if it gets into septic system the roots will clog it in a short time thanks Donald Baxter
I plan to plant these further out on the property. They'll be hundreds of feet from the house.
Hey, kid! Yeah, Zone 9A here. No more Pakistan mulberry ever. Every breeze unripe berries were dropping. I have an Illinois everbearing coming. I stuck 3 Brown Turkey figs twigs in some dirt out back and they rooted and 2 have leaves. I have one that's close to 2 feet tall that's going to some friends. The tangerine has a mess of nice fruit, and so does the kumquat, and that also is in bloom, again. Hey check out RSI Growers in Glendale. 'Way cool nursery. So far since January, Oracle, up the mountain from us, got 9.01 inches of rain. hasta, nieto!
Sounds like you're having a fruit tree filled summer. Sure miss the desert since visiting in May. Need to make more trips back down there. Adios!
I’ve experienced much the same though year to year last year I had tomatoes coming out my ears 3 weeks earlier than mine. Began this year they are finally catching up though not as fruitful last year was hot and humid earlier this year it was cool and much lower humidity until two weeks ago and I haven’t had a good cucumber or zucchini 1 huge yellow cucumber only
Definitely a strange year for us here. I guess some years are like that. I've only got a solid 40 to 60 more times around the sun though (unless I'm extremely blessed) so this weather better get its act together, haha.
Grow zones are merely a guide. One big difference would be with fruits and chilling hours and yield. More northern zone 8 types are more likely going to get better yields on something like apples than southern, same zone. Also emphasizes the point that procuring stock from select same geographic region is going to be superior. Acclimated and selected more closely to geographic climate rather than just a blanketed USDA designated grow zone.
I wholeheartedly agree. Just amazed at the difference.
Mike … when is your fig update coming up?
My mind is starting to wander over in that direction. I'm thinking about putting an update together real soon.
Hey Mike I am 30 miles south of Dallas, Texas so I am in 8B zone to......
Then I suppose you can grow some massive mulberry trees too! I'm more jealous by the minute.
@@MikeKincaid79 Sorry hon, but yes I have..
I love watching your channel. I'm 76 and love my flowers, plants and shrubs...and digging in the flower beds..
Seriously...Wtf...I just made almost 50 cuttings yesterday..good timing..😎😄
Wow, that's a ton of mulberry plants!
I believe that there are other factors. His may have been in full sun with lots of fertilizer and water. Yours was in a shaded greenhouse? There are more factors to be considered in addition to USDA zone.
That's true. It's such a massive difference though and I can't imagine I could make my trees look like his even with bigger pots. It's just been too cool around here.
Is there a video available where the exact same plant in the same house is but one is in the room where the wifi is and the other is in the room furtherest away from the wifi room. I would love to see how the plant reacts to the wifi.
No video like that on this channel but I do know that certain things like that can effect plant growth.
8b here and propagating fruiting mulberries. About the size of yours after one year.
Good to know. What part of the country?
@@MikeKincaid79 Near Yosemite, 3000' west slope Sierras. Pine tree zone, sugar pine, bull pine, ponderosa, manzanita. Just lost 116 houses and 20,000 acres! Came close, the oak fire.
You also sent out the cuttings that had 4 times the roots started.
True
@@MikeKincaid79 Love the videos. Keep 'em coming
Please do a propagation video on hydrangeas. But call it " to pot, or not to pot". Lol. I'm at 6.5 weeks on mine, with good leaf growth, and roots. But still nervous about potting outside ot it's incubator. HELP PLEASE! When is the right time to hatch my little hydrangeas?
Are you wondering when to plant them out in the landscape?
@@MikeKincaid79 yes. I don't have a set up like you have. I just have them in a clear tote like you said. But they have roots and new leaf growth. So I don't know if I can plant them in a pot and set in the flower beds? Plant them in the flower beds? Pot them, but keep them out of the sun? What is the next step I guess I'm asking.
Is there anyway you can predict if you get female trees versus the male trees? I have lots of male trees, but only one female dark red. I did have a white mulberry female tree, but my horses killed it eating the bark.
Buy known cultivars that you know are female.
It was the pots bro. Especially Mulberry which have such aggressive root growth. They are going to hit the confines of the pot fast. In my opinion absolutely gallon vs 2 or 3 times that could be exactly the difference in the growth.
I'll have to try this again as a comparison here.
It’s not the size of the tree, but how it produces that matters, I’ve got berries; whatchoo got?
Haha
So the zone really only tells me if I can leave it outside all winter or not, eh? Good to know.
Yep, that's about it, lol.
Oh I got plenty of mulberries they just all fell off. Lol my Mulberry season was like 2 or 3 months ago. I got pictures haha. In fact Mike got those pictures so. I Don't know what he's talking about. I'm going to have to send him the pictures again of the mulberries that were on my Pakistan Mulberry hahaha
It helps to have a good attitude, but it easier to have a good latitude. My mulberry that I just planted this spring is in the ground not a pot. It grew about 25-30 feet so far this year. As a matter of fact I just cut them back and weighed their arms down with rocks. The leaves are massive.
Wow! 30 feet since spring? That's nuts.
Hi Mike. Enjoy your videos. I am broken hearted. My sister inherited my Mother's house where the only Mulberry tree anywhere around us was. It was huge. She had it cut down, ground up and hauled off while I was at work. Anyway, I would like to buy some cuttings to try to propogate or trees. Would that be possible? I am in Georgia.
I'd love to send you some but my trees are still so small that I don't have much material in the way of cuttings. We'll see how they grow through the rest of summer. You could also contact Mark on his channel (link in the description). As you saw, his plants are miles ahead of mine and he will have plenty of cutting material. If you're holding out to get them directly from me then that's fine too, just have to wait a bit.
I know what type saying. I moved from WA to ALABAMA. Same zone.... but growing is NOT the same! It's crazy making!
Cool to hear that. Good to get more confirmation. I’ll bet you can grow some amazing veges down there.
Sir I would like to know if i ordered online seeds of "rare" roses. How sure that the seeds i order will sprout?
Well, they most likely won't be "rare" if they are seeds, due to genetic diversity, unless they were bred in a controlled environment.
@@MikeKincaid79 Thanks for the info. God bless
I planted Pakistani mulberry plant about three years ago…it’s 15ft or higher but not fruiting yet. Not sure what to do
I'd prune it back and make sure to add some potassium and phosphorous this spring.
@@MikeKincaid79 thank you so much for your reply and I will try that
It could be a different species of mulberry, which is from Texas
I thought zones were just based on the low temp, not sure🤷🏻♀️
It is
Looks like the Zone's need to be need to be changed in some area's...
Or just understood better. I think we all assume that we can grow the same things in the same zones (me included) but as this comparison shows, it's not necessarily true.
From wear you
Western Washington State. Gardening zone 8b
I have said for years the "ZONE MAP" needs to be really over-hauled. Look at my Peppers and Raspberries vs yours and my winters are longer and colder than yours, yet I have been producing for a long time and I am in zone 6A..... Speaking of Peppers, don't you still owe the channel another on camera eating? I believe you do.
Haha, I'm trying to get peppers growing Scott, but we just aren't getting enough heat this year. I'm going to have to get them growing indoors to make it work. Sure would love to build a huge heated greenhouse so I can level the playing field. I still need to send you those raspberries. I think about you every time I water them in the hoop house.
Everything is bigger in Texas.
LOL
They may be the same number....but they are NOT the same climate! I lived in zone 8b (gulf coast) and would buy plants from a Washington State nursery. Nope, they couldn't handle the hot and humid South Louisiana. Black mulberry though... Grow like monsters very quickly!
Yep, definitely not the same climate, lol.
Mike are you interested in growing haskaps? And I think Mike may be living next to a nuclear power plant, did you see the size of his white cat!
I don't understand why someone would want to grow mulberry trees. I can't kill those freakin' things.
I've cut one down, to the ground, 4 times in the last 14 years and it's 20+ feet tall.
So, I gave up and decided to shape it like a bonsai tree in my back yard. Now if could just get rid of the other 15 along my fence.
Easy to say when you actually have them, haha. Seriously though, I plan on planting these way out on my property so they have all the room they want to grow.
Extremely odd regions, but your Mulberries will eventually get there.
By the way, I think his Mulberries will be more sweeter, but your tree will be more juicer.
That's an interesting thought. I'll have to compare with Mark when we both get a good harvest.
Hey Mike ,Can I buy a parkstine mulberry from you please ,please let me know thank you, have a good evening.
I’ll have to take cuttings. Where do you live?
@@MikeKincaid79 Hey Mike, sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, but this is my address 870 livery circle Lawrenceville ga 30046,I have purchased cuttings a few times already and wasn't successful, I hope you can help thank you, and have a good night.
Where I live in Indiana those trees are invasive.
My Dad would say, "Can I make a suggestion? Don't plant them in Indiana." LOL
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Dang, that makes my case for Washington even worse.
@@MikeKincaid79 lol I don't know how we get colder than y'all
Hi mike , how are you , i lives in saudi arabia most hot country in the world and my pakistani mullberry huge now , this plant love heat and sunny location ,actully i plant them sor shading , so they need a deep water every day so they fruits alot in spring here some information about : saudi arabia , al mubaarraz city, soil: sand and mix with cow manure, weather now is 51 c,haha extremely fire.
Water from artesian wells, salt content 1550 ppm
Yes, very hot and humid there. I was in the US Navy in the late 90’s and we were in the Persian Gulf. I toured Jebel-Ali while we were there. Very hot
Hey Mike can you try to air layer a mulberry ? I would like to see you tru that if you want. Love from North east 🇺🇸❤
Absolutely! I'll have to keep that one in mind.
Ps...also could be the potting mix..I add worm castings and my plants go Crazy...😄🇭🇲🪶🪶🐛🪱🪱🪱
That's an interesting thought.
Hey Mike can you try to air layer a mulberry ? I would like to see you tru that if you want. Love from North east 🇺🇸❤
Absolutely! I'll have to keep that one in mind.