I literally laughed out loud when I got his text and subsequent short video. His little 6 year old son was chomping at the bit to go for a ride he said.
Well, I got a few more to work on Dennis. I gotta get back onto the 188D engine rebuild from the 430 Case...then there's the 210D in the 4500 Ford backhoe then there's the Allis Speed Patrol engine swap...then the Farmall M grader motor swap or rebuild....the list goes on. Jeez...now I'm tired out from thinking about 'em. LOL Thank you for watching as much as you do. Priorities do have a tendency to change from day to day though.
Has the old saying goes. " Better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all " Glad it all worked out for the buyer. Liked and shared. All my very best.
Yessir you are correct Bobby. But if I'd have just tried it one more time...if...if...if.... LOL. No matter, I sold it to him as a non runner anyway, so I am tickled to death that it fired so easily for him. But it also could have something to do with the nearly two hours bouncing around in the trailer that helped knock something loose too !! LOL
Hey Wendell! Glad all your effort resulted in a happy ending after all! And you did get to surprise the new owner - and yourself. Well done, my friend!
Yes, it was quite the surprise when I got the message and short vid from the young man. I don't know if I had the old thing cocked and primed ready for the next turn of the crank or if the 2 1/2 hour ride across the state in the late evening hours bounced something loose to allow it to fire so easily !! LOL. No matter, we are both happy for the re-homing of the Little Old Allis. Thank you for the visit Martin...and dang it, I just GOTTA swing back by your channel and play a little ketchup !!
Oh man I was tickled to death the next morning when he texted me and sent the little video !! I'd promised him it'd run and showed him my tiktok of belting it. At least I had the oil pump primed for him !! Thanks Zane for another visit.
Allis Chalmers is a nice little tractor. They will take a beating and keep on going. You did everything I would have done except I will spray some contact cleaner on the points just to be sure. In my early days of 1 1/2 hp cast iron Briggs & Stratton engines I would ride my bike up to Hill Piston and buy a set of points with my lawnmowing money and change them before I tried to get them running. I have had more points problems than I care to think about. My good friend Bob Collins has helped me out with tractors and trucks a bunch of times. Good thing he is patient. It took a dozen years before I could call myself reasonably successful at getting them started in the spring.
Yes I should have used electric contact cleaner to dissolve ALL the oxidation on and around the points. Points can be tricky to a young 'un, but once you get'em figured out they are a snap...as you found at a tender young age. Everyone needs a 'Bob Collins' in their life as a youngster.
That's awesome it started I was thinking if Wendell can't get it started no one will but putting it on and off the trailer must of moved something glad it started good video . take care have a great week
Oh I'm sure I would have gotten it going...I just ran out of time to fiddle with it. ALL of them can't be easy. But I should have just been a little more thorough inside the magneto. The two hour ride home knocked some more stuff loose I guess. LOL. He IS a happy young camper today though.
You worked very hard trying to get her to fire off!!! Great video and I like your approach to trouble shooting. I am glad it fired right up for the buyer. It was just being a bit stubborn with you that day. Good job! Fun video- your friend Rob on the Left coast lol
Thank you Rob....but if I'd have just tried one more time... LOL. That's the way it is. No matter though, I'd sold it as advertised as a 'non-running' tractor. I was wanting to surprise the prospective buyers with it running when they came to look at it. I just ran out of time because this young man was on his way. Thanks for taking the time for another video...I know you are a busy young man.
Hahahahaha....I thought so too. LOL. But the young man's little boy was excited too. Electric start is ALWAYS the way to go !! Of course that's only my opinion....LOL. This one not only had the flat belt drive an enterprising prior owner took a V-belt pully the exact diameter with the center hub knocked out and welded it to the flat one. So he had the option for either belt for a sickle bar or a belly mower with the V and flat belt for a buzz saw or hammermill.
I have the mid-mount sickle bar for mine and it has the v-belt pulley mounted parallel to the axle. I think the flat pulley is around the farm somewhere but, I never saw it mounted. Dad had the JD "B" or the Farmall "H" if he needed to run a flatbelt (which he used for the corn sheller).@@tractorman4461
I talked to him later in the same day, and the more he plays with it and drives it around the more he's thinking of keeping the little B intact !! LOL. He's gotta weight the hydraulics that's already on the C for using the 5 foot finish mower. Of course with these little AC series tractors swapping the hydraulics TO the B is pretty simple.
Allis is know for some good running machines with just a little maintenance. Their ergonomics are a bit questionable for older guys or taller fellows. Kinda scrunch a guy up somewhat to fit the space.
They take a licking and keep on ticking....wait maybe Allis is the parent company of Timex !! Thanks Lee, for sharing the memory of another venerable little Allis.
Man yeah Mr Wendell, we win some we lose some! But I agree you did just enough to pay it forward for him 😉😉 I was worried when you had both plug wires in your hand!!! 😁😁😉😉 I used ri clean points with a dollar bill, if they were really dirty I would use a 20 🤣🤣🤣 Loved the pto belt starter!! That was epic, you are a genius!! Thank you sir for bringing us along!! Can't wait to see what's next!! 😁😁👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hahahaha....that's funny about the twenty...!! LOL I think I needed a hunnerd for as oxidized as these were. I should have spent a bit more time apparently. But boy I was glad to hear it fire up for him unloading it !! And just with the fuel in the float bowl too. But he quickly tied a plastic tank on it and fired it right up again. He's a happy young man with a really happy 6 year old !! The flat belt trick almost never fails....did I say ALMOST..?? LOL. You can prime the oil pump and prelube a fresh rebuild with this process too. Just slowly turn it over and let the oil pump do its thing before starting.
Well at least it worked out for the other guy when he bought it. It just goes to show when somebody says ran when Park, can't expected to start right up. I'm experiencing a little bit of that myself
Well when he texted me and told me what happened I laughed out loud !! I was happy to help the young man out. He's got a better C with a bad motor so he's doing a motor swap. The B and C is essentially the same power unit...at least they bolt up identically.
Surprisingly you are not the first fella to suggest that...but I gotta admit I can't hold a candle to Jerry. Now if I had my M-16 from when I was in the Marine Corp...... but I doubt I'd hit the target now. LOL
Yessir....for both of us. I'm glad its gone and he's glad he's got it !! The icing on the cake for him was the easy starting once he tugged it the couple of hours home.
For some reason I am not getting notified every time you post a new video. I should follow your logic that if I havent used it in ten years I wont use it in twenty.We have engines that havent been started in over thirty years. Its great when you sell something to the correct person who need's it. good deal when the seller and buyer both are happy.
Well Randy, guys like me and you will NEVER figure out how the youtube guru's make stuff work. We are used to rusty old stuff not fanciful computers and the non-normal thinking that makes their programs work. But about the thoughts of getting rid of stuff if I haven't used it in ten years is a relatively new concept to me. I'm really trying to move some stuff out so my kids won't have to waste their time doing it in the (hopefully distant) future. LOL. I got rid of the Toyota forklift that ain't rolled a wheel since 2016 and a couple bush hogs and mowers....so I'm just getting started. I couldn't even get 75 bucks for a Superior loader for an 8n Ford so I gave it to a youtube friend in Michigan. He's gonna drive down to pick it up. Probably gonna put another dead Allis C up for 200 bucks.....but at the same time I'm still looking for a good M engine. I found a good runner in Rockford Ill for 600 but that's a pretty long drive.
Oh heck yeah Jeff. I usually use electrolysis on the tanks. Works very well except it is a tough job on the ones that have a baffle in them. Here's a sample and I do. have several videos on tractor gas tanks: th-cam.com/video/KW_Etp_PUqM/w-d-xo.html. So far the most superior product I've found is POR 15. But you have to use the full kit.
Remember that the explosive hydrogen gas is given off during the process so be careful to disconnect power before the leads and do it in a lean to or outside. Clean the anode often and replace it if necessary during the process. Another thing, knock as much loose before you start and suck it out with a vacuum. I usually power wash them as the first step. Good luck, and be safe !!
Better to buy "non-running" that ends up starting easy than a "running" that dies on the way home. Glad for the guy. Those points were definitely suspect. Sounded like it had great compression.
Yeah, I am sure I just didn't get the points clean enough. But apparently I should have just tried it just ONE more time. LOL. No matter, we both got a good deal.
Oh heck yeah....Section 6, paragraph 23, page 291 it says and I quote: "Flat belt/pto starting of otherwise dead tractors is acceptable if done in the manner depicted in videos by Tractorman44 on You Tube...." See there..?? I just looked it up just for you Rick. LOL Thanks for the grin this morning my friend.
Somebody needs to teach that fellow that you NEVER push down on a crank, when hand cranking any engine. Never wrap your thumb around the crank handle either. Lots of guys have broken arms, wrists or thumbs from not knowing how to properly hand crank an engine.
Yeah, I just didn't get all the oxidation off the points I think. Those little Allis's usually don't take much to fire unless there's a bigger problem.
Thanks Tony...I just wish it'd have fired for ME. No matter though, I sold it as a non runner. So he got to experience the awesome surprise when he got it home. Good for him and I am happy it happened that way.
All is well that ends well. He is happy and you are happy. Doesn't get any better than that.
I literally laughed out loud when I got his text and subsequent short video. His little 6 year old son was chomping at the bit to go for a ride he said.
Love it when your working on Tractors. Watch your channel all the time.
Well, I got a few more to work on Dennis. I gotta get back onto the 188D engine rebuild from the 430 Case...then there's the 210D in the 4500 Ford backhoe then there's the Allis Speed Patrol engine swap...then the Farmall M grader motor swap or rebuild....the list goes on. Jeez...now I'm tired out from thinking about 'em. LOL Thank you for watching as much as you do. Priorities do have a tendency to change from day to day though.
Has the old saying goes. " Better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all " Glad it all worked out for the buyer. Liked and shared. All my very best.
Yessir you are correct Bobby. But if I'd have just tried it one more time...if...if...if.... LOL. No matter, I sold it to him as a non runner anyway, so I am tickled to death that it fired so easily for him. But it also could have something to do with the nearly two hours bouncing around in the trailer that helped knock something loose too !! LOL
Hey Wendell! Glad all your effort resulted in a happy ending after all! And you did get to surprise the new owner - and yourself. Well done, my friend!
Yes, it was quite the surprise when I got the message and short vid from the young man. I don't know if I had the old thing cocked and primed ready for the next turn of the crank or if the 2 1/2 hour ride across the state in the late evening hours bounced something loose to allow it to fire so easily !! LOL. No matter, we are both happy for the re-homing of the Little Old Allis. Thank you for the visit Martin...and dang it, I just GOTTA swing back by your channel and play a little ketchup !!
That's awesome to see it ran after all Wendell 😁👍
Oh man I was tickled to death the next morning when he texted me and sent the little video !! I'd promised him it'd run and showed him my tiktok of belting it. At least I had the oil pump primed for him !! Thanks Zane for another visit.
That was cool Wendell, glad it run and so great for ten plus years,
It should have started on the first attempt, but no matter. It's going good for the young man now.
Allis Chalmers is a nice little tractor. They will take a beating and keep on going.
You did everything I would have done except I will spray some contact cleaner on the points just to be sure.
In my early days of 1 1/2 hp cast iron Briggs & Stratton engines I would ride my bike up to Hill Piston and buy a set of points with my lawnmowing money and change them before I tried to get them running.
I have had more points problems than I care to think about.
My good friend Bob Collins has helped me out with tractors and trucks a bunch of times. Good thing he is patient. It took a dozen years before I could call myself reasonably successful at getting them started in the spring.
Yes I should have used electric contact cleaner to dissolve ALL the oxidation on and around the points. Points can be tricky to a young 'un, but once you get'em figured out they are a snap...as you found at a tender young age. Everyone needs a 'Bob Collins' in their life as a youngster.
That's awesome it started I was thinking if Wendell can't get it started no one will but putting it on and off the trailer must of moved something glad it started good video . take care have a great week
Oh I'm sure I would have gotten it going...I just ran out of time to fiddle with it. ALL of them can't be easy. But I should have just been a little more thorough inside the magneto. The two hour ride home knocked some more stuff loose I guess. LOL. He IS a happy young camper today though.
You worked very hard trying to get her to fire off!!! Great video and I like your approach to trouble shooting. I am glad it fired right up for the buyer. It was just being a bit stubborn with you that day. Good job! Fun video- your friend Rob on the Left coast lol
Thank you Rob....but if I'd have just tried one more time... LOL. That's the way it is. No matter though, I'd sold it as advertised as a 'non-running' tractor. I was wanting to surprise the prospective buyers with it running when they came to look at it. I just ran out of time because this young man was on his way. Thanks for taking the time for another video...I know you are a busy young man.
Glad you clarified that "love at first sight" statement!!! 🤣🤣🤣Glad my AC "B" has an electric starter, it doesn't have the belt drive. 👍👍👍
Hahahahaha....I thought so too. LOL. But the young man's little boy was excited too. Electric start is ALWAYS the way to go !! Of course that's only my opinion....LOL. This one not only had the flat belt drive an enterprising prior owner took a V-belt pully the exact diameter with the center hub knocked out and welded it to the flat one. So he had the option for either belt for a sickle bar or a belly mower with the V and flat belt for a buzz saw or hammermill.
I have the mid-mount sickle bar for mine and it has the v-belt pulley mounted parallel to the axle. I think the flat pulley is around the farm somewhere but, I never saw it mounted. Dad had the JD "B" or the Farmall "H" if he needed to run a flatbelt (which he used for the corn sheller).@@tractorman4461
Well ain't that the way it goes sometimes, I would like to see that engine swap that the new owner is thinking about doing.
Thanks for this Wendell.
I talked to him later in the same day, and the more he plays with it and drives it around the more he's thinking of keeping the little B intact !! LOL. He's gotta weight the hydraulics that's already on the C for using the 5 foot finish mower. Of course with these little AC series tractors swapping the hydraulics TO the B is pretty simple.
@@tractorman4461 Choice, choices, t's all part of the hobby, isn't it? Generally, good stuff.
Cool stuff tractor man.
Thanks man. I wish now I'd have tried just ONE more time...LOL Usually this exercise works wonderfully well.
Happy ending for a young man and his son!
Oh heck yeah, no doubt. It's just the right size for a little fella to get started with too !!
Nice work! Crazy how things work sometimes!! Lol, C.C.
Hahahaha....at least I had that blue cart out of the way when the fella came by to pick up the little tractor !! Have a great day.
@tractorman4461 Yes sir!! Lol
Great video, I’ve had several of those little B’s over the years. There a fun little tractor.
Allis is know for some good running machines with just a little maintenance. Their ergonomics are a bit questionable for older guys or taller fellows. Kinda scrunch a guy up somewhat to fit the space.
I can remember running one like this trucking tobacco it belonged to my neighbor and was the most worn-out tractor I have ever seen
They take a licking and keep on ticking....wait maybe Allis is the parent company of Timex !! Thanks Lee, for sharing the memory of another venerable little Allis.
Man yeah Mr Wendell, we win some we lose some! But I agree you did just enough to pay it forward for him 😉😉 I was worried when you had both plug wires in your hand!!! 😁😁😉😉 I used ri clean points with a dollar bill, if they were really dirty I would use a 20 🤣🤣🤣 Loved the pto belt starter!! That was epic, you are a genius!! Thank you sir for bringing us along!! Can't wait to see what's next!! 😁😁👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hahahaha....that's funny about the twenty...!! LOL I think I needed a hunnerd for as oxidized as these were. I should have spent a bit more time apparently. But boy I was glad to hear it fire up for him unloading it !! And just with the fuel in the float bowl too. But he quickly tied a plastic tank on it and fired it right up again. He's a happy young man with a really happy 6 year old !! The flat belt trick almost never fails....did I say ALMOST..?? LOL. You can prime the oil pump and prelube a fresh rebuild with this process too. Just slowly turn it over and let the oil pump do its thing before starting.
Well at least it worked out for the other guy when he bought it.
It just goes to show when somebody says ran when Park, can't expected to start right up. I'm experiencing a little bit of that myself
Well when he texted me and told me what happened I laughed out loud !! I was happy to help the young man out. He's got a better C with a bad motor so he's doing a motor swap. The B and C is essentially the same power unit...at least they bolt up identically.
You look and sound like Jerry Miculek. The fastest revolver shooter from Smith & Wesson
Surprisingly you are not the first fella to suggest that...but I gotta admit I can't hold a candle to Jerry. Now if I had my M-16 from when I was in the Marine Corp...... but I doubt I'd hit the target now. LOL
That's a win!
Yessir....for both of us. I'm glad its gone and he's glad he's got it !! The icing on the cake for him was the easy starting once he tugged it the couple of hours home.
For some reason I am not getting notified every time you post a new video. I should follow your logic that if I havent used it in ten years I wont use it in twenty.We have engines that havent been started in over thirty years. Its great when you sell something to the correct person who need's it. good deal when the seller and buyer both are happy.
Well Randy, guys like me and you will NEVER figure out how the youtube guru's make stuff work. We are used to rusty old stuff not fanciful computers and the non-normal thinking that makes their programs work. But about the thoughts of getting rid of stuff if I haven't used it in ten years is a relatively new concept to me. I'm really trying to move some stuff out so my kids won't have to waste their time doing it in the (hopefully distant) future. LOL. I got rid of the Toyota forklift that ain't rolled a wheel since 2016 and a couple bush hogs and mowers....so I'm just getting started. I couldn't even get 75 bucks for a Superior loader for an 8n Ford so I gave it to a youtube friend in Michigan. He's gonna drive down to pick it up. Probably gonna put another dead Allis C up for 200 bucks.....but at the same time I'm still looking for a good M engine. I found a good runner in Rockford Ill for 600 but that's a pretty long drive.
Great job! On your future or one of these days project tractors do you put anything in the fuel tanks or drain it?
Oh heck yeah Jeff. I usually use electrolysis on the tanks. Works very well except it is a tough job on the ones that have a baffle in them. Here's a sample and I do. have several videos on tractor gas tanks: th-cam.com/video/KW_Etp_PUqM/w-d-xo.html. So far the most superior product I've found is POR 15. But you have to use the full kit.
I have a AC C it tank is bad so I will definitely be using tank liner. Thanks for your recommendation and for sharing the video.
Remember that the explosive hydrogen gas is given off during the process so be careful to disconnect power before the leads and do it in a lean to or outside. Clean the anode often and replace it if necessary during the process. Another thing, knock as much loose before you start and suck it out with a vacuum. I usually power wash them as the first step. Good luck, and be safe !!
Better to buy "non-running" that ends up starting easy than a "running" that dies on the way home. Glad for the guy. Those points were definitely suspect. Sounded like it had great compression.
Yeah, I am sure I just didn't get the points clean enough. But apparently I should have just tried it just ONE more time. LOL. No matter, we both got a good deal.
I like that setup you had with the Massey.
Do you think OSHA would approve?
Oh heck yeah....Section 6, paragraph 23, page 291 it says and I quote: "Flat belt/pto starting of otherwise dead tractors is acceptable if done in the manner depicted in videos by Tractorman44 on You Tube...." See there..?? I just looked it up just for you Rick. LOL Thanks for the grin this morning my friend.
buen sistema para arrancar
Este sistema casi nunca falla.
Somebody needs to teach that fellow that you NEVER push down on a crank, when hand cranking any engine. Never wrap your thumb around the crank handle either. Lots of guys have broken arms, wrists or thumbs from not knowing how to properly hand crank an engine.
Hot dang you are right about that !! It won't take him too long to figure that out and maybe he will only get a bruise or sore arm out of it.
if it wont start on belt problem
Yeah, I just didn't get all the oxidation off the points I think. Those little Allis's usually don't take much to fire unless there's a bigger problem.
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Thanks Tony...I just wish it'd have fired for ME. No matter though, I sold it as a non runner. So he got to experience the awesome surprise when he got it home. Good for him and I am happy it happened that way.
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Close but no cigar with the little Allis...but the young man fired it right up after the long ride home !! Thanks for watching.