Should You Buy the Harbor Freight Mini Wood Lathe?
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- I bought a Harbor Freight Mini Lathe. Did I waste my money? In this Video I will give my honest unbiased review of the Harbor Freight Mini Wood Lathe. This version is Item #65345 and manufactured by Central Machinery. This version has a 10" swing and can turn 18" between centers. I hope this review helps you decide if an import wood lathe is for you.
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well it's a lathe th-cam.com/users/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
I have had the same lathe for about three months now. Loving every minute on it. Works well. Thanks for the video.
I've had mine for 2 years now and it still works Great. Bought a bigger lathe but still like doing small items on this unit. Highly recommend if you are starting out! I've turned a ton of projects on it with no issues.
I appreciate the honesty of the review, I've been looking into getting that lathe from Harbour Freight and your video answered my questions about it, and answers some I wouldn't thought of asking, thanks
Thank you for the great information. I am just getting into this hobby and this was informative.
I’ve been looking at this one for a while, thank you for the honest review
Looking for a new hobby, The information on this lathe was super helpful. Looking forward to more videos and hints to make quality stuff.
I just got this exact same lathe for Christmas. I'm excited to try it out. Thanks for the great video.
I second the motion on the paste wax, much better than oil when shavings or sawdust is involved
Thank you for making a no crap video on the lathe, I'm looking at getting but never used or had one looks like I will be getting this one.
I appreciate the reminder about the specs and also your suggestions as I'm adding some accessories. Have owned one now for two years, no complaints, machined parts and spindles lined up nicely out of the box, just a basic, heavy, no-frills machine which is what I wanted.
Thanks for the review. I have been considering that lathe as an initial starting point but wasn't seeing the kind of reviews that would answer my questions. I'm just starting to acquire shop tools on a very low budget for various woodworking projects on an as needed basis. The lathe is still a little down the road but I have more confidence in this area since I operate a CNC metal lathe at work. I miss working on the manual lathe but high yield production isn't satisfied with the number turnout for manuals. I am really enjoying both the similarities and differences between my knowledge of metal working and what I am learning about woodworking. Great stuff in my opinion. I have subscribed to your channel as I think it will be a good source of information for me. Again, Thank you.
Thanks for the review, and the follow-up information on the tools. There are places you can go cheap and some places you can't. Great tips.
Honest, to the point and just the right amount of time and information. No rambling on, good video. Thanks, I ended up subscribing.
Great video Ryan! I just picked up one yesterday to make pens and bowls. Thanks for sharing your video👍
I bought this lathe and have used it for a couple years. It's been surprisingly useful for its size. The only issue I had was the tool rest. Its cast iron, and it broke when a piece came off the lathe. I bought a larger steel tool rest and things have been amazing. I love this tiny lathe!
Your video is much appreciated. I too grew up around craftsmen and it is apparent to me by the manner in which you present, you have a clue. Just the kind of video I prefer when reviewing products. Thank you!
I started watching youtube videos on wood turning about 6 months ago. I`ve also been a HF shopper before that. When I started viewing videos on HF lathes, I started looking. I think it was 3 weeks ago, I was perusing the aisles and on the far right side in the back was a mini lathe, with a price tag of 207$, no box. Today, I went back and it was 165.00. I put it in the buggy, with a set of the dark brown handled wood turning set and a face shield and I picked up the "24 free batteries". When I got to the register, I used the 10$ off the 100$ purchase and the 20% off and I payed 77.86$ for the lathe , 60.04 for the wood turning set and the face shield cost 14.07, total of 162.60. On this visit, the clearance items were half off, I overheard his conversion with the boss. Thanks for the info, now, I just need a place to turn. I dont have a garage, I have 2 decks, but they are too high lol. I have a spare room, but I dont think I should use that. Thanks for all your videos :)
Ryan,
Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
I have wanted to buy a wood-turning lathe for a while now.
I had thought of buying the bigger one #34706, but after a few videos and seeing the cheap handles, and space required (small shop, shed really lol) I decided to go with the smaller #65345
Thanks for helping me make my decision.
Well made and very informative video.
-Paul
Great review! I appreciate how in depth you got in explaining everything.
I know this is a 2 year old video but I found it to be an awesome video, I’ve been on the fence on which lathe to get for my first lathe and the Laguna and Rikon at $800 is hard to justify, thank you for the very informative video and I look forward to more...👍🏼👍🏼
Really great review. Gave me everything I wanted to know. And nothing I didn't lol which is refreshing for a change. Usually I have to watch 20 reviews on one product to feel I really have the right idea about it. But you just saved me a whole lot of time. It's like an actual review and not a commercial for once. Appreciate you my man. 🙏
Thanx for the information, it was a BIG Help !!! We are just getting started in our wood working journey. You probably saved us a ton of money and headaches with your video.
I just bought one of these barely used. Thanks for the review!
I've owned this lathe for some time now, and I love it. Great for not so big projects. You're exactly right about the starter set of tools....they suck! Good video, very informative.
Hi Lynn, do you have any chuck suggestions for this lathe?
Good review of the lathe and tools, and thanks for sharing your background. It helps to know that you know what you are talking about.
Nice review. I am just starting to get into wood turning and have been struggling to find a decent lathe for the money to be spent. Your opinions, advice and tips and tricks are much appreciated.
Thank you for giving us a bit of your biography background. I always wondered how and where people learned about things they rebuild/sell. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
I watched this video a few times and about a year ago I finally decided to buy this lathe. With some patience and common sense it has proven to be a fun time for me learning how to turn some wood projects. I did the comparisons to other brands and as you said, they are the same. Its been a good product for me as a beginner and has brought "new life" (joy) to me. Peace be with all of you
What's your favorite piece you've done so far?! I'm finally gonna buy this, any recommendations for a beginner like me?!
Answers to the title : @9:26
Answer on the Harbor Freight tools : @10:32
Doing god's work ty
Thanks
thanks,for looking was I what Exactly
Thanks Pal.
Bless you
While you reviewed the mini, we bought the large one. Thank you. I now know what to look for. We went for a USA made machine on a local trade site originally. A year later we have given up and chalked that machine up as a "lemon". Every time we have "turned around", we were buying another part. Since it was a trade buy, there isn't any warranty of any kind.
I don't really care about that lack of warranty. What ticks me off is the time we wasted.
We now have the large model Harbor Freight model (still in the box), but as we mount and assemble it, I will know what to look for, and what to expect.
Again, thanks.
Excellent review. 😎👍
Checked all the boxes.
This is a very good lathe. It is the go to lathe that is sold by other retailers under a different brand name. I have used mine for over three years. Turned dozens of bowls and spindle pieces. I have been turning since 1964. Just a fun little machine.
I have one and I'd definitely recommend it. The only problem i have with it is the plastic handles for tightening the tool rest and tail stock. Mine broke off and for now I'm just using pliers. Not a huge deal. Perfect for any skill level.
Thankyou for this i have been waiting to pull the trigger on harbor freights lath after seeing this i feel completely comfortable buying one now and knowing it wont be a waste of money im subscribing to your channel for more videos keep it up
Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm a long time CNC machinist getting into woodworking on a shoe-string budget, and I appreciate the candor and info about chucks, tapers, and tooling necessary!
Me too
Thank you for the great video and great approach! You provided a ton of useful information as efficiently as possible. Kept my attention the whole time. Ive wasted a lot of time waiting for videos to pan out only to fall short. This one did not disappoint.
Thank you for the information. It really helped.... I hope you do more videos and lessons on how to use it
Thanks for the time you put in on the review. It was well done and informative.
Great review. Answered every question that I had. You made another subscriber.
Glad you liked the video. I am still very pleased with this lathe for the price. Does everything I need it to.
Fantastic take on this lathe! I own three lathes including two full sized lathes but I can honesty say there isn’t a better bang for your buck than this lathe. It’s also a fantastic entry point for the prospective turner as well. It won’t do what my laguna 24x36 can for example but that’s not what it’s intended for and those detractors from the lathe are missing that point. It has its faults no doubt but for a mini lathe, there isn’t better value in my opinion.
I have the same lathe and I recommend it along with the HF lathe gouges. Their gouge set leaves a lot to be desired (no bowl gouge) but these are the tools you want to learn sharpening with; cheap ones. Once you have it down then you can start buying the expensive tools. I have done 9.75 inch bowls on it all the way down to finials. It is a HF tool and it will require some setup and a little fiddling in the beginning. When one is ready and now dedicated to lathe turning you can upgrade as I'm doing this spring - but I will not get rid of my HF since it is perfect and I have it "dialed-in" for pen turning and alike projects. Keep in mind - the lathe is cheap, the tools and after market needs/wants is what will be expensive - price a nova chuck or a slow speed grinder and you will see what I mean. Make sure your tail and headstock are dead on before you start. I had to return my first one as the quill would not advance - no problem getting a new one. All of this IMHO
Hi and thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am just a crafter and know nothing about using a lathe much less which tools to use or buy. I am looking at buying a lathe in the future but not until I know more about the machine and how to use it. So, thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
Audio aside well done my man . You articulate your word very well
Thanks for taking your time to explain!
Good review, dude. Honest, upfront, no beating around the bush. Been thinking about getting this for kicks.
For the price it's a fun little machine and you can always resell on the second hand market for almost what you paid for it new!
I’m a lifelong hobby woodworker. I have quality turning tools. Once the carbide tools came out, I saw the cost was ridiculous. After some time, carbide tips became available on eBay. So I went to Home Depot and bought steel rod, ordered tips, turned my own handles and had good carbide cutters for less than $20. You can get a decent set of tips for around $20. There will be 3 or 4, round, square, pointed detail, and it’s well worth the effort versus paying $175 for one tool. Excellent review by the way.
100% Agree. Off the shelf carbide tools are a complete rip off! If I still had my Bridgeport Mill I would have done the same. Well done!
RNGPRODUCTS You certainly don’t need a mill for these wood turning tools. I cut the square and round steel rod with a 4” grinder. Then I drilled and tapped the center hole with hand tools. Other tools would be nice to make it easier, but it can be done by anybody in their small wood shop. I’m working very primitively, as shop standards go. I’ve seen a lot of tools and jigs made here on TH-cam and being that I have no disposable income, I have to make all of the cool gadgets. But it gets the job done. It’s funny, but I seem to enjoy making the tools and jigs, more than I do any real projects now.
I bought half inch square steel bar online, needed a metric drill bit and tap for a mounting hole and got the carbide inserts from a guy in Arizona. I have a nice piece of hardwood to make handles if I ever get back in the shop. Looks like you can turn wood just using the metal parts. If I had to pay 150 dollars for a single cutting tool I’d probably take up a cheaper hobby like drag racing or flying a WWII war bird😜
ohgary I have to agree. 1/2” bar is what I used. The rest is pretty easy.
@@brookswade5774 I make a few of my own jigs too. I am the other way around though aboutthe enjoyment. For the most part I make toys. It makes me happy to see kids receive the toys and watch their faces light up. I do understand how you enjoy making your own tools.
II have this lathe, and I like it. The same lathe is available from Grizzly Industrial and another source, at higher prices. But the others offer a bed extension and other things. Grizzly sells replacement parts, but HF does not. Penn State Ind sells a variable speed kit that fits this lathe, as well as several other fine accessories. While there are a lot of places that sell things to improve the lathe, this basic lathe is the heart of it all.
Actually, this lathe was a solution to the problem I encountered when I first got into pen turning. I started with a wood turning tool rest mounted on the carriage of my metal lathe. I was surprised by all the wood chips that were thrown EVERYWHERE. My solution was to buy this inexpensive wood lathe and build a cabinet/stand ON WHEELS so I could move it OUTSIDE when I used it.
Excellent presentation! Thank you!
Super informative. Thanks for sharing some of your knowledge. I bought the harbor freight tooling before seeing this but I Kept the receipt! Good looking out
I do wood carving, and have used Lee Valley Tools for chisels, etc., and can vouch for their quality. They have turning tools--not cheap, but well made.
good info. I get most of my woodworking tools from Harbor fright, I have had no issues with the tools, if there missing parts, not happy with them ect. I just return them.
I've owned that same Harbor Freight Lathe for over. Two years I make hundreds of fishing lures and sell them it's a great lathe. For small projects
Thanks guy for sharing this review, very detailled
Every tool high end low end have a place in the shop and on the work level.... So depending on your professional level and budget .... thank you for your input
I agree thanks
I'm so glad you made this vid, I was about to take back the lathe I just bought a week ago because I literally have no place to put it & it's still sitting in the back of my Jimmy...:-( BUT..... a girl can never have too many tools & if it has to stay in my vehicle until spring arrives, so be it...LOL!!! You brought up some important items, like taking it apart & checking the tightness of the bolts etc, I wouldn't have thought about it unless something had sounded loose, but an ounce of prevention...so thank you for that, also for the specs on the spindle thread. 1x 8 & what a good idea for the wax! Thank you very much!!!
great review, answered the question i was looking for.
Thank you ! I buy a lot from HF and know how easy to return things if they suck or fail. It's refreshing and rare to view a review from an experienced individual and definitely better than reading a review from a winey DIY'er. Yes I liked and subscribed.
Thanks for sharing. I have been considering getting one for some time.
Thanks for your helpful video. This helped to convince me not to worry so much about the motor on my HF lathe getting hot. I do still use a fan on it to help keep it a bit cooler but I don't worry so much about it when I use it. So far, seems to be ok and nice for a small wood lathe.
Thanks for the video and honesty will be watching more.
Spot on, this was really informative
I bought mine several years ago and it has been GREAT! NO problems with it period. I've turned numerous things on it and it keeps chugging along. This one he is showing looks like a higher quality updated version so I'm sure it would do everything you would want it to do. If you are just starting out in wood turning, this is the one to get. Get your coupon and get it.
Had mine four years now upgraded the motor from motor from Penn state industry multi speed made it even better made my money back on
projects I have done
excellent review, great advice. thanks!
Great review honest and educational! Thanks for the info!
Ok man here it comes. Look out. Absolutely the best Video as far as details and your background and how thoroughly you went through everything. The title of the video is exactly as stated after watching your video. I myself also worked in Manufacturing my entire career. Also worked for the Family Powdered Metal company to start and then moved on from there I have worked Maintenance where we had 2000,000 ton presses clear down to pill presses between Powdered Metal and forging. I finally settled into Machining and was at one point in the family business was the Quality Manager back in the day when Q-1 was the biggest thing out there. That was my absolute 1st audit that i had ever been through in Manufacturing. I did the actual set up and implementation of the Entire Q-1 requirements of course all the employees had to buy into it also but Procedures and such were all my own doing from being an operator for years . The inspections in the Marine Corps were at least 3 times the stressor yes USMC 1984-1992 0311/1371 were my primary and secondary MOS. But yea I went on with the quality thing for actually 35 years retired at 53 years old after working in several different kinds of Mfg. Got my Certified Quality Engineering cert and became an internal/3rd party QS/TS auditor and Quality manager at almost every company I worked for . Now I restore old tools in my garage as a pass time I do not normally sell them. They are hand tools for the most part but have spent my share of time down in the Hydraulic oil and powdered metal so yea I know a decent set up when I see it. I am going to Harbor freight this coming weekend to pick mine up. Again Awesome presentation. I know my comments tend to babble on and on. But keep the Video's coming man this one gets 2 thumbs up and a subscriber.
Great comment. At the end of the day If South Bend, Logan, Clausing etc… made a quality mini lathe from back in the day I’d be all over it. These simple little lathes with sharp tooling are perfectly fine. Once you master it, simple upgrade and use that small guy for polishing or dedicated pen turning etc…
I've subscribed like that you are clear when speaking my friend I know a bunch of people that got that machine and every single one of them are extremely happy and proud of it they work really really amazing so great purchase thumbs up
I recieved the lathe from my daughter as a Christmas gift and that's been 2 1/2years ago I've been extremely happy with it and its function. Now I've gotten a lot of extras like two chucks, in additional large set and small set or carbide tools. I've made every one in my family happy with my craftsmanship making all sorts of turning toys and decor also crosses small 2 oz goblets tops driedels in a box as a call them, flowers (tulips) all from exotic wood. It's late at night and I may have written erotic wood from Bellforest my pleasure and a piece of maple lumber I'd like to make and give away to friends and family so it doesn't feel like a job. So far all cash is out flow, but it's a wonderful coping mechanism for some one with RSD/CRPS on good days. For an hour a day. To make some one happy. I think I duplicated everything I've seen made on you tube and it's where I got my knowledge from. Thank you Lord and thank you you tube craftsman for making me so happy. And harbor freight, also the extras my wife bought for me. My wonderful wife of 50 years and my inspiration.
excellent review. I am researching for a friend who wants to get started but is on a tght budget. I have usually only hear good reviews about this lathe, especially its price point in relation to value. Well done.
Thanks dude... Great video on the Harbor Freight lathe.... Great tips for the tools and accessories....
I purchased the same lathe about two years ago. At the time I had never used a lathe before. I bought it simply because I watched a TH-cam video on bent wood rings and I was looking for a new craft. I taught myself how to use it and be safe. It was intimidating at first. After about 3 months I was producing rings with a high enough quality to sell them. I have turned it into a small business and I’m still doing very well with it. I currently have over 50 unique designs that I make.
Anyway, it’s a great little lathe and i would definitely recommend it.
Rebecca Brooks do you have a website?
Poseidon TH-cam, yes I sell my rings on Etsy. You can check out my work if you like. Www.etsy.com/shop/naturalcreationsshop
@@spazydoo1 Beautiful work, Rebecca!
Brent Douglas thank you very much
Very nice and detailed review. Glad to see you back on YT! Looking forward to your future videos.
Cheers, Gary
Glad to be back in the saddle :) I'll be posting a multi part video in the future talking about How RNG started, drama behind the scenes and where the company and channel is headed! Appreciate the comments. I hope you keep grinding as well!
Great review. Well done on all touch points.
I found this informative. Each of us has wisdom in our respective areas of expertise. very good video. Thank you.
I have one like yours and also a 46in machine ,both from Harbor Freight.. been using the for at least 5 years.
Very cool, I like your style of video. Well done. Thank you.
Thanks for this video and your information. I have been Lusting over a lathe for about a year but am old enough to start decluttering. Our kids have minimal interest in my tools. Carry on and enjoy the holiday season.
I have been looking at this lathe for quite some time now, but never pulled the trigger on getting one. After watching this video, I can now jump off of the fence and head to harbor freight and get one.
I have this lath and a bed extension that allows turning up to 38 inches. I made table legs and it works perfect for me. I did make a longer tool rest due to longer turning.
I bought the 8X12 wood lathe from Harbor Freight several years ago. It has served me well and I still use it for projects.The lathe you showed does have my interest. The 2 extra inches of swing and 6 extra inches of length would make quite a difference. I agree about the Harbor Freighr tools also. They are not worth buying. I found a set of used tools on ebay. When I got the tools from ebay, I dressed the edges and they work very well. They are an old set of Craftsman tools made in the 50s or 60s. Great information in the video. Thanks for taking time to review the lathe.
This video is so much more than its title. There's so much to think about here and it's clearly rooted in your years of experience. It's clear that you really love your work with machines. :)
Your general tips for bringing in a new machine were great -- fastner checking/rebuilding, alignment, getting the cosmoline off. I wonder if you could do a series of videos about bringing in new machines ... maybe some more general first time pre-flight videos... and then because machines differ so greatly... you could do specific types of tools. A series of "so you bought the tool..." now what? videos.
Anyway! I hope you'll come back and make a few more videos at some point. :)
I have the 12x34 HF wood lathe bought it used , 2 years ago, no complaint. Have turned big bowls , rolling pins, mortar and pestle, dozens of Christmas ornaments, utinsil holders . I have no problem with my used harbor freight lathe, even use their chisels
Sounds like a WIN to me :)
I purchesed this lath in the UK from Axminster tools as there own branded lath, and was very pleased with it
Nice. Great info for the turning curious.
enjoyed answered several questions I had thanks
good to hear Dale!
Good review over all.
Audio chops out several times during 1st 1/2. I pulled out my ear buds to make sure it wasn’t my audio device.
I really like that you’ve got a background in tools. It makes the review hold more weight.
1 thing i wished i had seen was a close up pan over of the tools you were discussing towards the ending.
But overall, i have you a like because you didn’t use profanity & you took TIME to set up your content smoothly.
Good job.
Very good video , and direct to the point . I found it to be better then some of the others . I viewed .
I was at Harbour Freight and this model had better adjustment handles . The larger model had poor handles they felt loose and
looked like they could easy stripped the heads .
I used this lathe for over 10 years, never had a problem, even when I left it outside when I was in an apartment and it rusted it still worked fine. I eventually upgraded this year because I was tired of changing the belts and went for a jet vs. I don’t regret it but I wine get rid of the HF until I find someone who will actually use it.
They are great little machines, when used properly. Variable Speed is very nice. Once you have that it's hard to live with a belt change. Hence why for the price this is a great lathe to start with and make sure you enjoy the hobby before you get to invested into equipment!
I am in charge of a craft program at a local church camp. Long story short, I now have 4 lathes at camp where I teach kids down to 3rd grade to turn pens. I also have one of the Harbor freight table top lathes like this one which I have had for 4 or 5 years.
Harbor freight does not have a great spare parts dept. We had a tail stock break due to abuse by a kid who tried to lock down the tail spindle with a mallet instead of finding a maintenance guy to look at it long enough to see that the locking handle was not lined up with the slot in the spindle. I ended up having to order another tail stock from Grizzly tools for a replacement. The Grizzly Tools tail stock had a narrower opening between the ways on the bed, so I ended up buying some 1/8th inch square keystock and gluing the key stock to the bottom of the tail stock housing with J-B Weld, and then using a file to carefully narrow both sides until the tail stock would fit down into the bed and was centered on the head stock. I don't blame Harbor Freight. It never occurred to me that a college student that I trained to operate the lathe could not figure out how to properly operate the spindle lock, or figure out that the slot machined into the spindle was intended to have the locking screw indexed to it.
The biggest problem with the Harbor freight power tools is the on off switch is really cheap. The one on my lathe as well as another harbor freight lathe failed within 1 year on my lathe, the camp lathe switch fail after 2 years, but the camp lather is only used from late June to early August. Instead of trying to replace the Harbor Freight switch with another Harbor Freight switch, I went to Rockler and picked up their "E-stop" switch. I fastened the switch down to my bench at home, and to the leg of the stand of the lathe at camp. I took the failed switch out of the machines and cut the wires off and spliced them together bypassing the switch. I then put the broken switch back in place to fill the hole. Plug the lathe into the Rockler switch, and then plug the Rockler switch into the wall.
Great review thank you much !!!!
Nice review , you touched on some great features to verify! I can tell you have some mechanical background! 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the honest review
Excellent presentation and information 👍👍👍👍
Good reveiw and tips ironically this lathe has become a staple in most hobby Woodworking shops especially ones that are limited in space and budget Another decent set of tools for a decent price are the older Craftsman sets on Ebay the made in U,S,A. Ones ive seen for good prices and they are a fairly good set
Good information! I got bit on the cheap tools and you are 100% right, get good tools!
I've had this lathe for a couple of years, and I highly recommend it. I made the following adjustment to mine and it helped a bunch. I removed the motor mounting plate and drilled three additional holes for cooling air to pass through. Chainsawxyz.
I bought the bigger version and is garbage! The head stock cracked within 3 months and keeps falling off and the stand fell apart.
Good to hear an honest review. Harbor Freight tools have no resale value.
I have the variable speed one and like it. I bought the tool set just so I could learn to sharpen the turning tools and if I ruined them I wouldn't be ruining much. No, they are not much to brag about, but I did learn to sharpen them and they are much better when sharp. But I had to epoxy all the handles back on when they eventually came off, and all of them came off lol! but once sharpened and glued they are functional. But then I got some Sorby's. Yep, different ball game, but I am now not afraid to sharpen them when they need it. Also, the cheap tools let me have several grinds to experiment with and find which one's worked for me without spending $500 to do so. All in all for a hobbyist, I would highly recommend the harbor freight lathes even if a bit under powered.
Good video. I bought a similar one(Axminster) and found changing speeds was a great pain. You can't see the belt or pulleys unless you are a contorsionist. I found the headstock was reversable so it was a case of turnig it round and knocking out the spindle and reversing the top pulley. The whole thing took an hour. And now the window is facing me and I can see down to the motor pulley. So much more satisfying to use. I can't imagine why they make them like they do.
you have a great experience..👏
I will come back to you soon for some recommendation..